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Germany128 Posts
With Intel Extreme Masters Cologne coming up in February, it's time for the participants to be determined. Eight players will have the Chance to qualify online again!
Three of the best players from Europe and Africa will qualify for Cologne alongside  HeRoMaRinE the newly crowned German champion. You must advance through 2 stages to do so. See how below.
Restrictions
- You must be located in Europe or Africa at the time of either Stage 1 or Stage 2 to be eligible to compete in the qualifiers.
- You must be at least 16 years of age by January 28th 2014 ( the date of the LAN event)
- Hotel and flight cost are paid for in full by ESL.
- Be well aware that Germany might require an up to date visa to enter the country.
SCHEDULE
Stage 1: Saturday, Jan 18 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
Stage 2: Sunday, Jan 19 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
STAGE 1
Top 4 players will advance to Stage #2!
Signup Here: Signups
Check-in Here: Check-in
Bracket: Bracket
+ Show Spoiler [Mappool] +The map pool for the qualifiers will be the new WCS/ladder map pool released soon and will include the following maps:
Alterzim Stronghold
Frost
Habitation station
Polar Night
Yeonsu
Daedalus Point
Heavy Rain
+ Show Spoiler [Map Selection Rules] +Best of 3 in all rounds. Once the semi-finals round is reached the matches end, and the 4 players then move to stage #2.
A map veto (removal and pick) system is used. The high seeded player on the grid starts. Players take it in removing maps until only one remains in a best of 1 or until only 3 maps remain in a best of 3. Then each player picks a map. Maps are played in order they are picked. The remaining map is played last.
STAGE 2
Top 3 players qualify for event!
+ Show Spoiler [Seeded Players] +
Bracket: http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/masters/season8_cologne_qualifier_day2/rankings/
COVERAGE
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So in order to sign up, you need a premium account? Is this to keep the low level players out?
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It isn't that difficult to earn a Premium Account, btw
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Africa is a competetive continent?
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On January 04 2014 00:05 Gene(S)is wrote:
Africa is a competetive continent?
PandaTank is a competitive player.
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We've had some changes!
Both days will now start at 12:00 to accommodate for the Nation Wars tournament and players.
The first few players for stage 2 are also confirmed:
 TLO
Happy
 StarDust
Welmu
Also to confirm that the new mappool used in WCS and Ladder will also be used for the qualifier.
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On January 04 2014 00:05 Gene(S)is wrote:
Africa is a competetive continent?
We do have  PandaTank like someone else said. Other than him, nothing really.
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Germany128 Posts
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So how come Stage 1 for NA was double elim but for EU it's single elim?
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It still is nice that Africa can compete, it might boost the scene there. And also there are a lot of African players leaving in Europe. Anyways good luck to all the players 
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France7248 Posts
On January 13 2014 20:39 Dinotramp wrote:
So how come Stage 1 for NA was double elim but for EU it's single elim?
probably less players in NA than Europe.
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On January 13 2014 22:20 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2014 20:39 Dinotramp wrote:
So how come Stage 1 for NA was double elim but for EU it's single elim? probably less players in NA than Europe.
So they get second chances and we don't? Seems a bit strange not to have a unified format.
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awesome, hope happy performs well.
oh wait he is seeded already lol
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France7248 Posts
On January 13 2014 22:50 Dinotramp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2014 22:20 Yhamm wrote:On January 13 2014 20:39 Dinotramp wrote:
So how come Stage 1 for NA was double elim but for EU it's single elim? probably less players in NA than Europe. So they get second chances and we don't? Seems a bit strange not to have a unified format.
that's how it has always been and each region organizes it the way they want
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Last 4 players are now decided for stage 2.
ForGG
VortiX
HasuObs
Nerchio
To answer questions relating to the stage 1 qualifier, we've just always run it as single elimination and it's never really caused any complaints.
Brackets with the seeded players are now available: here
Streams will be announced tomorrow!
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On January 08 2014 23:12 Marcinko wrote:We do have PandaTank like someone else said. Other than him, nothing really.
Well this comment looks sad now in retrospect 
Looking forward to the games today, there are a lot of good players signed up for today. And Apollinaris are casting, which is great
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stardust vs nerchio in the bracket
at this point im sure organizers do it on purpose
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ForGG already in Stage 2 !
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Russian Federation1016 Posts
Unfortunate stage 2 bracket for Russian guys... Playing against each other in Ro16 and then fOrGG in Ro8... Will Russia hold?! History shows that France is a good rival for Russia 
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apollo has a blackeye? Has he been involved in a barfight? :o
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On January 04 2014 00:19 Aeromi wrote:PandaTank is a competitive player.
Not anymore!
ba dum tish
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Russian Federation1016 Posts
Strelok all the way!!! I cheered for him in WCS EU Qualifier, cheering for him now!!!
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Belgica34432 Posts
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Damn, that's a tough round 1.
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I wish 4 players were invited and 12 had to qualify instead of the other way around. That being said, let the qualifiers begin! Awesome! 
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Russian Federation1016 Posts
On January 18 2014 20:26 BaneRiders wrote:I wish 4 players were invited and 12 had to qualify instead of the other way around. That being said, let the qualifiers begin! Awesome!
I read this in Bane's voice... Then looked at your name... Awesome!
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"once it gets past the mid game, stabilizing on 2 bases"
apollo just summarized all the problems with pvp
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Belgica34432 Posts
Yes Kaelaris, they speak French in Bulgaria.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
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Russian Federation1016 Posts
@ Niko_Thien:
Me too! If you get any update on that, please, tell me!
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Sortoff should take Hobbits gold base and just empty as much as he can. (basetradetv)
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wow kane beat bly, didn't expect that!
gj!
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ye kane looked surprisingly solid against bly
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HoBBiT's build and macro in the start looked nice but his viking/raven control is just non-existant, really painful to watch.
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mana owns on polish stream
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By any chance somebody showing Socke playing?
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On January 18 2014 21:54 Lambertus wrote:
By any chance somebody showing Socke playing?
VERDI 2-1 Socke
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Belgica34432 Posts
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Ffs Harstem. Just roll with the proxy nexus and do that offensive overcharge.
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hahahha wtf jjakji oh my god
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On January 18 2014 21:54 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 21:54 Lambertus wrote:
By any chance somebody showing Socke playing? VERDI 2-1 Socke
Thanks. Too bad...
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Exactly... How do you split units perfectly against this? If you do he just takes 2 medivacs from one place to another and you die. Wp JJakji
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How can Jjakji be this good.
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On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good.
He is Korean.
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On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:He is Korean.
hahaah, there is nothing to add :D
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On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:He is Korean.
He is Jjjakji
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On January 18 2014 22:36 Loxley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good. He is Korean. He is Jjjakji
Djhellium agrees.
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On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:He is Korean.
He also may have won a GSL, but no one really remembers.
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Tefel is doing really well in online tournaments lately.
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So many streams. My computer goes bananas from opening and closing so many :o Plz write if you are watching a nice nice/cool game and on witch stream. Thanks
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On January 18 2014 22:38 Hypertension wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good. He is Korean. He also may have won a GSL, but no one really remembers.
I do
like it was yesterday.
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On January 18 2014 22:43 Pyloss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 22:38 Hypertension wrote:On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good. He is Korean. He also may have won a GSL, but no one really remembers. I do like it was yesterday.
That was a great finals.
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So Elfi has to beat two terrans to qualify. We get to see more of Elfi's logic-defying PvT.
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On January 18 2014 22:38 Hypertension wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good. He is Korean. He also may have won a GSL, but no one really remembers.
Sniper is the winner people repress, Jjakji is the guy everyone just forgot. It's really strange how long he was flying below the radar after winning the GSL. Usually when players are gone from the limelight that long, they just kind of fade away quietly.
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On January 18 2014 22:47 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 22:38 Hypertension wrote:On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good. He is Korean. He also may have won a GSL, but no one really remembers. Sniper is the winner people repress, Jjakji is the guy everyone just forgot. It's really strange how long he was flying below the radar after winning the GSL. Usually when players are gone from the limelight that long, they just kind of fade away quietly.
Who's Sniper?
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On January 18 2014 22:47 Dinotramp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 22:47 Squat wrote:On January 18 2014 22:38 Hypertension wrote:On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good. He is Korean. He also may have won a GSL, but no one really remembers. Sniper is the winner people repress, Jjakji is the guy everyone just forgot. It's really strange how long he was flying below the radar after winning the GSL. Usually when players are gone from the limelight that long, they just kind of fade away quietly. Who's Sniper?
And who is Roro?!
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On January 18 2014 22:47 Dinotramp wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 22:47 Squat wrote:On January 18 2014 22:38 Hypertension wrote:On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good. He is Korean. He also may have won a GSL, but no one really remembers. Sniper is the winner people repress, Jjakji is the guy everyone just forgot. It's really strange how long he was flying below the radar after winning the GSL. Usually when players are gone from the limelight that long, they just kind of fade away quietly. Who's Sniper?
Some guy who ruined christmas, killed esports and burned down an orphanage.
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On January 18 2014 22:50 Pyloss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 22:47 Dinotramp wrote:On January 18 2014 22:47 Squat wrote:On January 18 2014 22:38 Hypertension wrote:On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good. He is Korean. He also may have won a GSL, but no one really remembers. Sniper is the winner people repress, Jjakji is the guy everyone just forgot. It's really strange how long he was flying below the radar after winning the GSL. Usually when players are gone from the limelight that long, they just kind of fade away quietly. Who's Sniper? And who is Roro?!
Roro, I have heard about this guy, he is well known for destroying Proleague Fantasy teams. I took him to Anti-team. i regret it.
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On January 18 2014 22:50 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 22:47 Dinotramp wrote:On January 18 2014 22:47 Squat wrote:On January 18 2014 22:38 Hypertension wrote:On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good. He is Korean. He also may have won a GSL, but no one really remembers. Sniper is the winner people repress, Jjakji is the guy everyone just forgot. It's really strange how long he was flying below the radar after winning the GSL. Usually when players are gone from the limelight that long, they just kind of fade away quietly. Who's Sniper? Some guy who ruined christmas, killed esports and burned down an orphanage.
+ Show Spoiler +
a picture to visualise the statement
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On January 18 2014 22:50 Pyloss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 22:47 Dinotramp wrote:On January 18 2014 22:47 Squat wrote:On January 18 2014 22:38 Hypertension wrote:On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good. He is Korean. He also may have won a GSL, but no one really remembers. Sniper is the winner people repress, Jjakji is the guy everyone just forgot. It's really strange how long he was flying below the radar after winning the GSL. Usually when players are gone from the limelight that long, they just kind of fade away quietly. Who's Sniper? And who is Roro?!
What about Seed ?
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silly apollo forum users never make mistakes
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On January 18 2014 22:54 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 22:50 Squat wrote:On January 18 2014 22:47 Dinotramp wrote:On January 18 2014 22:47 Squat wrote:On January 18 2014 22:38 Hypertension wrote:On January 18 2014 22:34 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 22:33 Abradix1 wrote:
How can Jjakji be this good. He is Korean. He also may have won a GSL, but no one really remembers. Sniper is the winner people repress, Jjakji is the guy everyone just forgot. It's really strange how long he was flying below the radar after winning the GSL. Usually when players are gone from the limelight that long, they just kind of fade away quietly. Who's Sniper? Some guy who ruined christmas, killed esports and burned down an orphanage. + Show Spoiler +a picture to visualise the statement
lol wtf !? xD Made my day ahahah
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17 min 2base all in. Protoss is just disgusting.
User was warned for this post
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Good thing for him that he changed. 2 base blink is hardly a thing.
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On January 18 2014 23:03 Zheryn wrote:
17 min 2base all in. Protoss is just disgusting.
I didn't see the game, but if it worked the opponent threw away a large part of his army. If they aren't maxed by then, they are the disgusting ones
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On January 18 2014 23:07 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:03 Zheryn wrote:
17 min 2base all in. Protoss is just disgusting. I didn't see the game, but if it worked the opponent threw away a large part of his army. If they aren't maxed by then, they are the disgusting ones
It was a dragged out immortal sentry all in, he just kept warping in sentries and got more immortals and sat outside zerg base dancing back and forth a bit when Zanster baited out force fields. No protoss units dies tho if you just control it good while you pick off a few units here and there with force fields, and after a while the army was big enough to just charge in to kill a 200 supply zerg. I don't understand why more protoss players don't do this. Stardust was very good at abusing this, but he's one of the few who does it.
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Belgica34432 Posts
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Mana 2-0ed Patience for the second time! Great games from Mana.
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Russian Federation1016 Posts
MaNa wins 2-0 with protoss lasers vs protoss lasers...
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On January 18 2014 23:13 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:07 Mozdk wrote:On January 18 2014 23:03 Zheryn wrote:
17 min 2base all in. Protoss is just disgusting. I didn't see the game, but if it worked the opponent threw away a large part of his army. If they aren't maxed by then, they are the disgusting ones It was a dragged out immortal sentry all in, he just kept warping in sentries and got more immortals and sat outside zerg base dancing back and forth a bit when Zanster baited out force fields. No protoss units dies tho if you just control it good while you pick off a few units here and there with force fields, and after a while the army was big enough to just charge in to kill a 200 supply zerg. I don't understand why more protoss players don't do this. Stardust was very good at abusing this, but he's one of the few who does it.
"No protoss units dies tho if you just control it good while you pick off a few units here and there with force fields."
If this was the case... that you could just do this all the time, then all P should have 100% winrate.
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Amazing game by Mana. Amazing game in general. The leader switched quite a lot.
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Norway839 Posts
Nothing disgusting about it. Harstem played a fantastic game. He was taking advantage of fake pressure and punished Z for not teching and kept his cool. It wasn't only about the tech either - there were no counter-attacks to Harstem's base and very little force-field baiting, which are things Zerg absolutely has to do when facing this kind of 2-base all-in using only a roach/ling composition and a somewhat low drone-count.
If Zerg is only going to mass roaches and lings, Z has to drain energy and repel the attack using multiple flank-attack-retreat moves or employ counterattacks. There was not enough of this in this game, even if the Zerg played very well also. You can't allow the Protoss to build msc/immo/sentry/zealot army value beyond 140/200 and expect to have a fair chance in a straight up fight with only 200/200 roaches and lings vs msc/immorta/sentry/zealot. As Protoss approaches 170/200 and 200/200, it's basically impossible to win as Zerg. Harstem's final death blow was at 170/200 medium-tech P vs 200/200 low-tech Z. If you know SC2, you know that Protoss is very likely to win and should win this scenario.
There's more to the game than just '17 min 2base all in'. Harstem's play worked because he called Zerg out on the low-tech army and responded just the way you have to. He was being patient and cool about it, more than a lot of other Protoss players would have been. And the Zerg was not ready for just that.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Kaeleris confirmed ignorant heathen.
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This be good. GOGO JJAKJI!
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On January 18 2014 23:18 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Nothing disgusting about it. Harstem played a fantastic game. He was taking advantage of fake pressure and punished Z for not teching and kept his cool. It wasn't only about the tech either - there were no counter-attacks to Harstem's base and very little force-field baiting, which are things Zerg absolutely has to do when facing this kind of 2-base all-in using only a roach/ling composition and a somewhat low drone-count.
If Zerg is only going to mass roaches and lings, Z has to drain energy and repel the attack using multiple flank-attack-retreat moves or employ counterattacks. There was not enough of this in this game, even if the Zerg played very well also. You can't allow the Protoss to build msc/immo/sentry/zealot army value beyond 140/200 and expect to have a fair chance in a straight up fight with only 200/200 roaches and lings vs msc/immorta/sentry/zealot. As Protoss approaches 170/200 and 200/200, it's basically impossible to win as Zerg. Harstem's final death blow was at 170/200 medium-tech P vs 200/200 low-tech Z. If you know SC2, you know that Protoss is very likely to win and should win this scenario.
There's more to the game than just '17 min 2base all in'. Harstem's play worked because he called Zerg out on the low-tech army and responded just the way you have to. He was being patient and cool about it, more than a lot of other Protoss players would have been. And the Zerg was not ready for just that.
Snute you're amazing, responding in LR threads with great knowledge! Thank you for this.
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On January 18 2014 23:24 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:18 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Nothing disgusting about it. Harstem played a fantastic game. He was taking advantage of fake pressure and punished Z for not teching and kept his cool. It wasn't only about the tech either - there were no counter-attacks to Harstem's base and very little force-field baiting, which are things Zerg absolutely has to do when facing this kind of 2-base all-in using only a roach/ling composition and a somewhat low drone-count.
If Zerg is only going to mass roaches and lings, Z has to drain energy and repel the attack using multiple flank-attack-retreat moves or employ counterattacks. There was not enough of this in this game, even if the Zerg played very well also. You can't allow the Protoss to build msc/immo/sentry/zealot army value beyond 140/200 and expect to have a fair chance in a straight up fight with only 200/200 roaches and lings vs msc/immorta/sentry/zealot. As Protoss approaches 170/200 and 200/200, it's basically impossible to win as Zerg. Harstem's final death blow was at 170/200 medium-tech P vs 200/200 low-tech Z. If you know SC2, you know that Protoss is very likely to win and should win this scenario.
There's more to the game than just '17 min 2base all in'. Harstem's play worked because he called Zerg out on the low-tech army and responded just the way you have to. He was being patient and cool about it, more than a lot of other Protoss players would have been. And the Zerg was not ready for just that. Snute you're amazing, responding in LR threads with great knowledge! Thank you for this.
I second this. It's brilliant to get this kind of in depth analysis. It's much appreciated. (I also liked Apollo watching the replay of Mana vs Patience to analyse Patience's decisions).
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
As Bitterdam would say, Tom cruise won this game.
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no country for old gods part two
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elfi just have bad luck to have the hardest group
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jjakji is playing a ghostless style without ghosts - Apollo 2014
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Elfi is playing very impressive, thought he'd be dead for sure after the big engagement.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 18 2014 23:34 Undead1993 wrote:
no country for old gods part two
On January 18 2014 23:34 Qwerty85 wrote:
#deadGod
Too many heathens. REPENT!
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Belgica34432 Posts
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wow elfi is doing it, i am wrong i am so wrong forgive me
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On January 18 2014 23:38 Undead1993 wrote:
wow elfi is doing it, i am wrong i am so wrong forgive me
O Father who art in Finland, forgive this sinner for he knows not what he does.
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Is Elfi qualified for WCS? I feel mighty scared for jjakji's title...
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Yay, Elfi. His PvT is truly miraculous.
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More material for future TvP whine.
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Elfi is life. Elfi is god.
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Beating a korean terran with 80apm. Word
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Elfi adds yet more inexplicable victories to his tally. Would be pretty cool if he beat Jjakji.
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How did he do it?? Come on guys, he really played well
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On January 18 2014 23:40 DJHelium wrote:
Is Elfi qualified for WCS? I feel mighty scared for jjakji's title...
Yes, he did go trhough the first qualifier without dropping a map. San is the first one to feel his wrath.
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On January 18 2014 23:40 DJHelium wrote:
Is Elfi qualified for WCS? I feel mighty scared for jjakji's title...
Yes he is.
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On January 18 2014 23:41 Squat wrote:
Elfi adds yet more inexplicable victories to his tally. Would be pretty cool if he beat Jjakji.
He already beat him last NorthCon, 3-2!
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This game was probably the definition of getting protossed.
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On January 18 2014 23:41 theBALLS wrote:
Beating a korean terran with 80apm. Word
elfi is one of those rare players that have positive winrecord against TaeJa 
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jjakji was touched by God
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On January 18 2014 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
This game was probably the definition of getting protossed.
And the phrase "getting protossed" is a variation of balance whine.
Come on, he played well.
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On January 18 2014 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
This game was probably the definition of getting protossed.
no it wasnt. the definition of getting protossed is flash vs sora. this was just very well played by elfi holding on against drops multitasking and splitting his army pretty well, whereas jjkaji kept throwing away small amount of units and in the end was for some reason not upgrading and overextending. elfi is officially god
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
I;m happy Katowice gets to be world championship. It was the best EU event last year.
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There are probably a lot of fun theological debates we could have with elfi's divinity. Are elfi and (action)jesus two different entities or one?
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On January 18 2014 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
This game was probably the definition of getting protossed.
This game was probably the definition of getting pwned by god.
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On January 18 2014 23:45 stuchiu wrote:
I;m happy Katowice gets to be world championship. It was the best EU event last year.
What about Iron Squid ? 
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On January 18 2014 23:44 theBALLS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
This game was probably the definition of getting protossed. And the phrase "getting protossed" is a variation of balance whine. Come on, he played well.
Nah, it's a cool qxc reference. 
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On January 18 2014 23:45 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:45 stuchiu wrote:
I;m happy Katowice gets to be world championship. It was the best EU event last year. What about Iron Squid ?
you mean what about northcon :D
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On January 18 2014 23:45 Heartland wrote:
There are probably a lot of fun theological debates we could have with elfi's divinity. Are elfi and (action)jesus two different entities or one?
I think you could draw some conclusions on this. Elfi is anagram of Life. Think about THAT....
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On January 18 2014 23:46 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:45 Aeromi wrote:On January 18 2014 23:45 stuchiu wrote:
I;m happy Katowice gets to be world championship. It was the best EU event last year. What about Iron Squid ? you mean what about northcon :D
Sen already saved 2014. Talk about anticlimactic.
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But true in HotS
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Russian Federation1016 Posts
I understand everyone's watching Elfi - jjakji, but on which stream is Verdi - Harstem?
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On January 18 2014 23:46 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:45 Aeromi wrote:On January 18 2014 23:45 stuchiu wrote:
I;m happy Katowice gets to be world championship. It was the best EU event last year. What about Iron Squid ? you mean what about northcon :D
#Takesavedesports
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On January 18 2014 23:46 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:45 Aeromi wrote:On January 18 2014 23:45 stuchiu wrote:
I;m happy Katowice gets to be world championship. It was the best EU event last year. What about Iron Squid ? you mean what about northcon :D
Best of the worst for sure. Poland beat the French for best audience. Sure they had some good League backup but they brought it.
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On January 18 2014 23:45 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
This game was probably the definition of getting protossed. no it wasnt. the definition of getting protossed is flash vs sora. this was just very well played by elfi holding on against drops multitasking and splitting his army pretty well, whereas jjkaji kept throwing away small amount of units and in the end was for some reason not upgrading and overextending. elfi is officially god
Not really. Flash was playing from behind that whole game since his proxy factory play failed.
I am sure that if we looked at resources lost, they were probably even or Jjakji ahead. And even if Jjakji was slightly behind he was still ahead in economy. First he had a faster third and then a faster 4th base and was never harrased at all until that deciding fight.
I am not saying that Elfi played bad but by "getting protossed" I mean when terran does everything right for first 20-25 minutes of the game, even gets vikings, ghosts (right counters), slows down protoss economy etc. but still loses that 1 fight and everything snowballs from there, no chance of comeback at all. He also wasn't that behind on upgrades since it was 2-2 vs. 3-3. You can't really beat protoss to 3-3
I feel like protoss can always come back as long as you get maxed and have chance to drop 2-3 good storms.
Well maybe our definitions of getting protossed are bad.
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On January 18 2014 23:48 IAmWithStupid wrote:
I understand everyone's watching Elfi - jjakji, but on which stream is Verdi - Harstem?
Verdi is streaming, I guess he will show it
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Harstem 1-0 up vs Verdi after a early stalker push.
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On January 18 2014 23:47 Ana_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:45 Heartland wrote:
There are probably a lot of fun theological debates we could have with elfi's divinity. Are elfi and (action)jesus two different entities or one? I think you could draw some conclusions on this. Elfi is anagram of Life. Think about THAT....
Mind=blown
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Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards?
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On January 18 2014 23:49 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:46 Undead1993 wrote:On January 18 2014 23:45 Aeromi wrote:On January 18 2014 23:45 stuchiu wrote:
I;m happy Katowice gets to be world championship. It was the best EU event last year. What about Iron Squid ? you mean what about northcon :D Best of the worst for sure. Poland beat the French for best audience. Sure they had some good League backup but they brought it.
Nooooo.
Go watch the french stream of Nation Wars today, they are casting from Meltdown and you'll see which nation has the best crowd. :D
Meanwhile elfi is crushing the poor jjakji.
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On January 18 2014 23:49 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:45 Undead1993 wrote:On January 18 2014 23:43 Qwerty85 wrote:
This game was probably the definition of getting protossed. no it wasnt. the definition of getting protossed is flash vs sora. this was just very well played by elfi holding on against drops multitasking and splitting his army pretty well, whereas jjkaji kept throwing away small amount of units and in the end was for some reason not upgrading and overextending. elfi is officially god Not really. Flash was playing from behind that whole game since his proxy factory play failed. I am sure that if we looked at resources lost, they were probably even or Jjakji ahead. And even if Jjakji was slightly behind he was still ahead in economy. First he had a faster third and then a faster 4th base and was never harrased at all until that deciding fight. I am not saying that Elfi played bad but by "getting protossed" I mean when terran does everything right for first 20-25 minutes of the game, even gets vikings, ghosts (right counters), slows down protoss economy etc. but still loses that 1 fight and everything snowballs from there, no chance of comeback at all. He also wasn't that behind on upgrades since it was 2-2 vs. 3-3. You can't really beat protoss to 3-3 I feel like protoss can always come back as long as you get maxed and have chance to drop 2-3 good storms. Well maybe our definitions of getting protossed are bad.
for me to get protossed the protoss needs to have collossi storm and tempests which elfi didn't have but sora did
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Harstem 2-0 VERDI
Verdi : "bg bg bg"
Harstem qualifies for tomorrow
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How many marines are needed to defend vs 2 oracles, assuming target fire?
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On January 18 2014 23:51 NovaMB wrote:Harstem 2-0 VERDIVerdi : "bg bg bg"
Verdi always so mannered =)
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On January 18 2014 23:51 DJHelium wrote:
How many marines are needed to defend vs 2 oracles, assuming target fire?
iirc its 8 Marines
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On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards?
The way I look at it is when terran slowly builds up advantage during the game and it all goes down the drain in 1 fight without the chance to come back.
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On January 18 2014 23:51 Niko_Thien wrote:Verdi always so mannered =)
AH cool i thougt it was the 1st game, but all is nice
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On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards?
Think it's just losing the big fight and not being able to re-build army quick enough
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On January 18 2014 23:52 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards? The way I look at it is when terran slowly builds up advantage during the game and it all goes down the drain in 1 fight without the chance to come back.
Blizzard, Kespa, ESF and all the WCS-subsidiaries should write a 38 page dictionary defining every one of these words and if a player or caster is found to have misused one they get fined.
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God giving false hope to jjiakji
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On January 18 2014 23:51 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:51 DJHelium wrote:
How many marines are needed to defend vs 2 oracles, assuming target fire? iirc its 8 Marines
Ok, thanks. Will have to try it out sometime.
I usually just leave 6 in main and then start rallying to natural, but kinda sucks if 2 oracles come :D
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God will blink-all-in his way to victory.
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On January 18 2014 23:54 Ana_ wrote:
God will blink-all-in his way to victory.
It is a message to his scions
In hoc signo vinces
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True story, in the Legacy of the Void they will reveal that the Tal'darim sect actually worship elfi
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apollo looks like he got so drunk last night and slept for 3-4 hours
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On January 18 2014 23:53 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:52 Qwerty85 wrote:On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards? The way I look at it is when terran slowly builds up advantage during the game and it all goes down the drain in 1 fight without the chance to come back. Blizzard, Kespa, ESF and all the WCS-subsidiaries should write a 38 page dictionary defining every one of these words and if a player or caster is found to have misused one they get fined.
Look at it this way:
Dear vs. Maru on Frost - not an example of getting protossed since Dear never took any real damage and Maru was never ahead in tech or economy
Elfi vs. Jjakji on Frost - example of getting protossed since Jjakji was trading well, he denied Elfi's third, he had higher tech units and wasn't stuck on bio for the whole game but then he lost that fight and it was gg
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On January 18 2014 23:57 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:53 Heartland wrote:On January 18 2014 23:52 Qwerty85 wrote:On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards? The way I look at it is when terran slowly builds up advantage during the game and it all goes down the drain in 1 fight without the chance to come back. Blizzard, Kespa, ESF and all the WCS-subsidiaries should write a 38 page dictionary defining every one of these words and if a player or caster is found to have misused one they get fined. Look at it this way: Dear vs. Maru on Frost - not an example of getting protossed since Dear never took any real damage and Maru was never ahead in tech or economy Elfi vs. Jjakji on Frost - example of getting protossed since Jjakji was trading well, he denied Elfi's third, he had higher tech units and wasn't stuck on bio for the whole game but then he lost that fight and it was gg
I dunno. We can use it like that, sure. But I think it was meant the way I related it to what qxc said originally. But language changes, etc
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On January 18 2014 23:57 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 23:53 Heartland wrote:On January 18 2014 23:52 Qwerty85 wrote:On January 18 2014 23:50 Heartland wrote:
Isn't qxc's definition of getting Protossed is when you lose all your vikings and ghosts in a fight vs Protoss and thus remain without a chance afterwards? The way I look at it is when terran slowly builds up advantage during the game and it all goes down the drain in 1 fight without the chance to come back. Blizzard, Kespa, ESF and all the WCS-subsidiaries should write a 38 page dictionary defining every one of these words and if a player or caster is found to have misused one they get fined. Look at it this way: Dear vs. Maru on Frost - not an example of getting protossed since Dear never took any real damage and Maru was never ahead in tech or economy Elfi vs. Jjakji on Frost - example of getting protossed since Jjakji was trading well, he denied Elfi's third, he had higher tech units and wasn't stuck on bio for the whole game but then he lost that fight and it was gg
And lost every fight in game from the beginning. <- Jjakji
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Mana recalls out to avoid certain doom, regroups, then charges back into an even worse engagement, this time with no energy on the MSC.
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jjakji being blessed by god! that's why we love him, he is so merciful
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God getting spanked hard two games in a row lol.
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God gives jjiakji his blessing. You are now ready!
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This jjakji guy is pretty good, hell he could like. Win a GSL one day
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i love elfi, but these days i'm rooting against any protoss so... GG jjakji!
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yeah a terran wins
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On January 19 2014 00:06 Fusilero wrote:
This jjakji guy is pretty good, hell he could like. Win a GSL one day
Pff, Artosis told me that's never going to happen.
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On January 19 2014 00:06 Fusilero wrote:
This jjakji guy is pretty good, hell he could like. Win a GSL one day
that's your conclusion after a 2:1 against elfi?
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On January 19 2014 00:07 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 00:06 Fusilero wrote:
This jjakji guy is pretty good, hell he could like. Win a GSL one day that's your conclusion after a 2:1 against elfi?
Elfi is god, gotta keep that in mind
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On January 19 2014 00:07 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 00:06 Fusilero wrote:
This jjakji guy is pretty good, hell he could like. Win a GSL one day that's your conclusion after a 2:1 against elfi?
His comment had layers that are obviously not easy to understand
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On January 19 2014 00:08 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 00:07 Undead1993 wrote:On January 19 2014 00:06 Fusilero wrote:
This jjakji guy is pretty good, hell he could like. Win a GSL one day that's your conclusion after a 2:1 against elfi? Elfi is god, gotta keep that in mind
One and only.
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On January 18 2014 23:51 NovaMB wrote:Harstem 2-0 VERDIVerdi : "bg bg bg" Harstem qualifies for tomorrow
Sounds like the person I know, who threatned to kill me in a tournament ^^
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So what's your biggest upset of the day? My nominee is Protosser winning a ZvZ.
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On January 19 2014 00:13 AlternativeEgo wrote:
So what's your biggest upset of the day? My nominee is Protosser winning a ZvZ.
elfi gave his blessing to jjakji.
Well, God knows what is best.
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On January 19 2014 00:13 AlternativeEgo wrote:
So what's your biggest upset of the day? My nominee is Protosser winning a ZvZ.
patience getting taken out by mana that first game was so unfortunate
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That was a great game by Tefel. Sending a counter attack and defending at home, very nice
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Finally so long i had not seen a decent analysis while casting. Thank you apollo
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How come Kane is in EU? I thought he went back to AM?
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Tefel is such a machine. I wonder if it could be that he has got the most online tournament games played. :D
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On January 19 2014 01:03 Dinotramp wrote:
How come Kane is in EU? I thought he went back to AM?
He plays WCS in AM. But he resides in Europe and is eligible for the IEM EU qualifiers.
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On January 19 2014 01:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Tefel is such a machine. I wonder if it could be that he has got the most online tournament games played. :D
According to aligulac, he is stilll quite behind on that regard. Tefel has about 2,2k tournament games, Nerchio has above 3,3k, GoOdy above 3,2k, Bly above 3k and Kas close to 3k.
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On January 19 2014 01:25 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 01:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Tefel is such a machine. I wonder if it could be that he has got the most online tournament games played. :D According to aligulac, he is stilll quite behind on that regard. Tefel has about 2,2k tournament games, Nerchio has above 3,3k, GoOdy above 3,2k, Bly above 3k and Kas close to 3k.
Well that's obviously because the aligulac guys are on top of updating the games for those players Thanks for the numbers ^^
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On January 19 2014 01:28 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 01:25 Xoronius wrote:On January 19 2014 01:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Tefel is such a machine. I wonder if it could be that he has got the most online tournament games played. :D According to aligulac, he is stilll quite behind on that regard. Tefel has about 2,2k tournament games, Nerchio has above 3,3k, GoOdy above 3,2k, Bly above 3k and Kas close to 3k. Well that's obviously because the aligulac guys are on top of updating the games for those players Thanks for the numbers ^^
Well it´s still nearly 3 times as much as Mvp, so quite a lot.
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Unfortunately Welmu messaged me earlier that he had some personal issues come up and won't be able to play tomorrow.
I attempted to contact all 4 losing players from the Ro8 to play out their part of the bracket. Unfortunately SortOf was too tired to continue and VERDI did not respond.
Kane played vs elfi for the slot and won 2-0. So he will directly take Welmu's seed and play vs BabyKnight in the first round tomorrow.
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On January 19 2014 04:46 messioso wrote:Unfortunately Welmu messaged me earlier that he had some personal issues come up and won't be able to play tomorrow.
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Why? So many times his sickness has affected his play or isnt allowing him to play...
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Nerchios eyebrow got stuck in his eye!
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Stardust's first warpin at 6:28 even with chrono to the cyber core, that's weird.
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how to not love this? there is no mirror matches in ro16!
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Mana with Proxy 2 gates vs. 3 hatch before pool
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So cool to see jjakji play mech!
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On January 19 2014 20:41 NovaMB wrote:
Mana with Proxy 2 gates vs. 3 hatch before pool
GG MaNa ?
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Where is Dimaga's games being streamed?
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On January 19 2014 20:42 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 20:41 NovaMB wrote:
Mana with Proxy 2 gates vs. 3 hatch before pool GG MaNa ?
Yep, he killed the pool seconds after it finished
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On January 19 2014 20:42 Zheryn wrote:
Where is Dimaga's games being streamed?
twitch.tv/taketv 1-0 for Dima atm
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Jjakji 1-0 Vortix on basetradetv
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HasuObs has gotten really all-innish vs. Zerg lately. I guess even he cant be bothered with Swarm Hosts
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Stream for ForGG vs Happy? Thanks in advance!
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They just said they will be streaming it on main stream (ESL.TV).
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It will be on main stream
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Nerchio 2-1 StarDust
nerchio going 3 hatch muta into expanding to his opponents 5th
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what with babyknight guys? no one streaming this
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What a defence by jjakji, I think he got this now.
Yeah, that game was sick.
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Lol, Happy so irritated. But he lost the first game anyway...
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Any news on BBK vs Kane? I hope it`s not another three hours long turtle fest galore.
edit:didn`t see the previous post.
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On January 19 2014 21:22 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Any news on BBK vs Kane? I hope it`s not another three hours long turtle fest galore.
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On January 19 2014 21:22 mYiKane wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 21:22 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Any news on BBK vs Kane? I hope it`s not another three hours long turtle fest galore.
Well done
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Hasu needs a ninja expo to fight jjakji on equal terms.
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nerchios zvz has been looking shaky lately
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Kane is looking good... nice to see another Canadian player doing well these days! New(ish) blood!
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Another headache ?
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On January 19 2014 21:44 Aeromi wrote:Another headache ?
He just really hates playing through the lower bracket.
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On January 19 2014 21:46 messioso wrote:He just really hates playing through the lower bracket.
It's his job, he's fulltime...
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Really good start in game 2 for Hasu, but jjakji is eh...quite decent.
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Such a strange game from hasu... he expanded but never went above 50 probes... at first I though he will do a 2 base colossus timing but then he suddenly took a third after 5 minutes of not producing probes.
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On January 19 2014 21:53 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Really good start in game 2 for Hasu, but jjakji is eh...quite decent.
I don't think you can hold the 2 base all-in as a Protoss if you go heavy into phoenixes. Jjakji saw the build and just ran over Hasu's defence.
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i really dont like happy games. seems to be the same basic strat all the time.
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the heck was tlo thinking here? building mutalisk only and no ground army at 16 minutes? he deserved to be stomped into the ground.
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Wow, great game by Jjakji, even had ghosts in time and better upgrades.
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On January 19 2014 22:04 YoloSwaggins wrote:
the heck was tlo thinking here? building mutalisk only and no ground army at 16 minutes? he deserved to be stomped into the ground.
please dont say stuff like that. i think apollo explained quite well what he was thinking and doing.
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On January 19 2014 22:04 YoloSwaggins wrote:
the heck was tlo thinking here? building mutalisk only and no ground army at 16 minutes? he deserved to be stomped into the ground.
Muta switch can be good against mech.
It's just that happy builds three thors to every siege-tank so maybe he's not the best player to fight with mutas.
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Happy was supply blocked at 129 for like 5 minutes
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WTF HAPPY IS DOING?! Why he abandon macro?
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On January 19 2014 22:08 looken wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 22:04 YoloSwaggins wrote:
the heck was tlo thinking here? building mutalisk only and no ground army at 16 minutes? he deserved to be stomped into the ground. please dont say stuff like that. i think apollo explained quite well what he was thinking and doing.
that was simply bad play.
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On January 19 2014 22:28 NovaMB wrote:ForGG 1-0 Tefel
GO MY BOY
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At this point the question seems to be: Do we get 3 Koreans through or can one European (or Canadian) prevail?
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On January 19 2014 22:32 grs wrote:
At this point the question seems to be: Do we get 3 Koreans through or can one European (or Canadian) prevail?
ForGG is half french, it's ok.
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Loved TLO's 3rd game, brilliant suffocation
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Now we`re reaching the interesting parts of the qualifier. I hope that one non-korean makes it.
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On January 19 2014 22:43 Auxerox wrote:MaNa 1-1 Kane
Stream|?
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Did MaNa played without warpgate research? I've missed the beginning...
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Forgg, well played my boy!
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GO Mana!
And just as i say it Mana loses
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Titan should just cannon-push to one of the middle bases and secure it with like 40 cannons. He has 10k minerals.
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Titan vs Kane has seen carriers, wow.
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Ouch, Mana. That series didn't look pretty at all.
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On January 19 2014 23:32 NovaMB wrote:jjakji 2-0 MaNajjakji qualifies for IEM Cologne!
Jjakji so good. One sided to a degree i expect Mana to go outside and roll in the snow.
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On January 19 2014 23:33 WigglingSquid wrote:
Ouch, Mana. That series didn't look pretty at all.
to be fair it was vs jjakji
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Nerchio vs Mana.
A polish classic.
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Only Terrans have qualified. Race is saved!
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mana <3<3<3 btw poland dominating!
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On January 19 2014 23:34 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 23:33 WigglingSquid wrote:
Ouch, Mana. That series didn't look pretty at all. to be fair it was vs jjakji
To be fair, elfi can beat Jjakji.
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On January 20 2014 00:01 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 23:34 nkr wrote:On January 19 2014 23:33 WigglingSquid wrote:
Ouch, Mana. That series didn't look pretty at all. to be fair it was vs jjakji To be fair, elfi can beat Jjakji.
don't be so upset ;;
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Poor Nerchio, all those banes died for nothing
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really not sure about this more muta decision now but i guess nerchio is out of options
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terrible terrible engagements by mana through out the whole game, phoenixes constantly out of position or fighting corrupters but his harassment was phenomenal and very effective! GG mana nice game
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This map gives nice and long macro games, that is for sure.
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That game (Nerchio vs MaNa 1st game) shows how pvz could look if not for swarmhosts.
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He doesn't need good forcefields, he just needs a LOT of forcefields lol
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On January 20 2014 00:13 NovaMB wrote:Kane 2-0 TitaN
Kane is sooo good ilu Kane
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Kane is trying his best to delay this even more.
The other bracket half is finished already lol
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stardust is also playing this pretty meh... no feedbacks on the vipers, only 1 robo, hurts to watch.
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I'm always wondering why they dont try to feedback drop the vipers with speed Prisms. Probably too hard I guess
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On January 20 2014 00:37 NovaMB wrote:
I'm always wondering why they dont try to feedback drop the vipers with speed Prisms. Probably too hard I guess
especially when there are locusts under the vipers :D
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This game is like free publicity for the Starbow tournament later on.
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StarDust 1-0 Kane
Nobody seems to know if it was only game 1. Probably all asleep
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Kane killing esport
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And now Poland vs Korea series
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Or should I say Poland series
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Okay, I didn't expect a relatively easy 2-0 here. O.o
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Tefel timing attacks too good.
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Btw, "nemesisesesezees" was cute.
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Are there two stages of the qualifier or three?
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On January 20 2014 02:21 Silvanel wrote:
Are there two stages of the qualifier or three?
Two.
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On January 20 2014 02:21 Silvanel wrote:
Are there two stages of the qualifier or three?
2 stages. Mana vs Tefel for the last spot.
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Gratz to MaNa!! a strong perfomance today
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GJ Mana! Shame about Tefel
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Congrats Mana! Really happy for him, I hope a team picks him up and he appears in new colours at IEM.
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