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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1561
Innos micro is the best in the world
Amove for Aiur
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1562
On December 08 2013 03:02 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:00 Xoronius wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:59 whiterabbit wrote:
Is it known if Khaldor plays SC2 regularly and how good he is?

He was a master zerg on korean server at some point, I have no clue about his current rank, though.


Is there any proof for that? I've heard it mentioned a couple of times but never seen him play etc.

I don't wanna bash him, just curious! I think it would be cool if more casters streamed more often. It's something that makes me like Rotti, Nathanias etc.

Just scanned through his YT, I have found no proof of this, but I have heard him or a cocaster say this before, so I just assume, it is true, since they don´t really have a reason to lie about this.
Gaskal
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada241 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1563
Can anyone summarize as to what happened in chat with avilo? Had to AFK.
"Get all the money, build all the units...kill the other guy"
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1564
On December 08 2013 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On December 08 2013 03:05 Snusmumriken wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:03 Snusmumriken wrote:
the sad part is that san is not behind much


Innovation's natural is done and San is just starting his natural. The difference in economy should show up within a few minutes.


Except he couldnt utilize his natural and was behind on scvs. So no. Its a bullshit build, everyone knows it. Except DK.


He could have made a second missile turret which would have 100% shut down all worker harass by the oracle, and two missile turrets are considerably cheaper than a stargate + oracle, not to mention the two proxy pylons that San needed, and the chrono boosts used.

Don't hate the build; hate the reaction.

San still doing damage with the oracle, because Innovation was trying to skimp on a tiny bit of defense. Bit him in the ass.


1 medivac and 8 marines is cheaper than 4 cannons, so should Protoss be forced to make 4 cannons at each base? Your argument makes no sense. If Protoss made 4 cannons at each base, we wouldn't need nexus cannons, would we?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1565
Wtf this godly micro. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE!
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1566
On December 08 2013 03:11 Keeemy wrote:
Maaaaan why is twitch lagging on MEDIUM FUCKING QUALITY???

I mad

Wanna train you french skill ?
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shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 18:12:48
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1567
Good micro from inno.
RIP MKP
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1568
great micro by Innovation
Moderatorlickypiddy
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1569
Solid play by Bogus
Hello
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1570
Justice at last
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1571
Poll: Recommend San vs Innovation Game 2?

★★★★ - Highly Recommended Game (9)
 
53%

★★★★★ - Great Game (4)
 
24%

★★★ - Recommended Game (2)
 
12%

★★ - Meh Game (1)
 
6%

★ - Not Recommended in any circumstance (1)
 
6%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend San vs Innovation Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - Great Game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly Recommended Game
(Vote): ★★★ - Recommended Game
(Vote): ★★ - Meh Game
(Vote): ★ - Not Recommended in any circumstance

The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1572
On December 08 2013 03:10 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:06 The_Templar wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:03 The_Templar wrote:
On December 08 2013 02:59 The_Templar wrote:
RO8: Match 4

(P)San vs (T)INnoVation
1-0


Map: Polar Night


San spawns in the bottom
INnoVation spawns in the top

1:00
Innovation building a barracks followed by a refinery.
San getting a gateway followed by two assimilators.

2:00
Cybernetics core for San.
Probe moving through the center of the map.
Proxy pylon for San.

3:00
Reaper for Innovation.
Proxy stargate for San.
Command center on the high ground.
Reaper scouts the stargate before it finishes.

4:00
Probe builds a second pylon next to the stargate before the reaper catches it.
Second pylon is cancelled.
Oracle barely finishes before pylon dies.
A bunker and missile turret finish.

5:00
Mothership core for San.
Another missile turret for Innovation.
San expanding.
Innovation getting a second refinery and finishing up a second barracks.

6:00 (P)San 34 vs (T)INnoVation 35
Reaper dies in San's base.
Another reaper is made and dies instantly to an oracle.
Two gateways and a forge for San.
Stim for Innovation.

7:00 (P)San 42 vs (T)INnoVation 47
Innovation has lots of marines and is 1/3 finished with stim.
Innovation moving out.
Missile turrets preventing oracle damage.

8:00 (P)San 48 vs (T)INnoVation 51
Twilight council for San.
Oracle finds a weakness in Innovation's defense and kills 6 workers.

9:00 (P)San 56 vs (T)INnoVation 55
Starport for Innovation.
San gets away with the oracle.
Templar archives for San.

10:00 (P)San 62 vs (T)INnoVation 62
2 more gateways for San.
Charge finishing up as well.
Double medivac production for Innovation.
Armory for Innovation.

11:00 (P)San 82 vs (T)INnoVation 90
Archons for San.
Innovation moving in for an attack but loses stuff for nearly free.
Drop in San's base but revelation sees it.
Feedback gets a damaged medivac.

12:00 (P)San 101 vs (T)INnoVation 90
Storm starting.
One of the medivacs gets a few probe kills in the natural.
Third base for Innovation.
San gets another 5 SCV kills with his first oracle.
Single marine kills a zealot at the watch tower.

14:00 (P)San 126 vs (T)INnoVation 117
Innovation kills the oracle in the middle of the map.
San getting a robotics facility.
Innovation moving through the center of the map.
San taking a third base.

15:00 (P)San 137 vs (T)INnoVation 142
Innovation backing up and preparing for a doom drop.
Warp prism for San.
Innovation taking his third base.

16:00 (P)San 146 vs (T)INnoVation 146
Innovation backing up after attacking the third
Innovation backs up to his third but forces the army back with great splits.
San retreats but loses two more high templars for free.
Innovation loses the whole force from his doom drop.

18:00 (P)San 138 vs (T)INnoVation 156
Innovation tries to push San's third but there's more high templars and archons.
Innovation splits up his army.
San has superior upgrades.
Innovation breaks the third base due to forcing an overcharge and units at the natural with extra forces.

19:00 (P)San 92 vs (T)INnoVation 163
San running out of units.
San GG's!
Innovation ties it up 1-1!
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12463 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1573
On December 08 2013 03:09 Fjodorov wrote:
This is actually the perfect game to refer to when discussing eventual oracle imbalance. Perfect example


I'm gonna keep this comment for future reference.
No will to live, no wish to die
Xaeldaren
Profile Joined June 2010
Ireland588 Posts
December 07 2013 18:12 GMT
#1574
On December 08 2013 03:05 GumBa wrote:
Oracles.....


Marauders....
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 07 2013 18:13 GMT
#1575
On December 08 2013 03:09 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 03:08 Fyzar wrote:
On December 08 2013 03:06 vthree wrote:
1 turret needs to be able to defend one mineral line from oracles, this is just silly.

How so? It's the same as versus a banshee/mutalisk ;p.

Banshees are way slower and half the dps


Half the dps? Wasn't banshees the number one damage dealer in WoL? :o
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
December 07 2013 18:13 GMT
#1576
gg.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 07 2013 18:13 GMT
#1577
Wow, amazing bio control by Innovation
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 07 2013 18:13 GMT
#1578
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
December 07 2013 18:13 GMT
#1579
Don't try to out multitask and out micro Innovation...
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 18:15:04
December 07 2013 18:13 GMT
#1580
(P)San 1 - 1 (T)INnoVation
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