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On December 01 2013 15:58 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 15:55 painkilla wrote:On December 01 2013 15:52 Fission wrote:On December 01 2013 15:51 painkilla wrote:On December 01 2013 15:48 Vertical wrote:watching Mvp is so frustrating  Didn't you watch WCS/Blizzcon? Top terrans were stomped, didn't matter if Taeja, Bomber, Polt, Maru. Stop blaming Mvp. If only a terran had won a major tournament recently... like, maybe today... Where a 1 year experience toss ran over Polt, MMA, Innovation, only stopped by a Zerg. Patience had a year of 'Pro' experience... I am pretty sure he has been playing much longer than that. Guys, we've only heard of Sora for <6 months, obviously he's only been playing for half a year.
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On December 01 2013 15:58 Pandain wrote: Just noting that even if you don't go oracle strategies, the fear + mothership core allows protoss to play far greedier even when standard. He was going like forge, twilight, collusus, all off two base and super fast. It was scary.
Not just oracles, you need to prepare for blink aggression which can outright win you the game. And even if you scout it, the Protoss doesn't have to commit. And then the Terran has to guess whether the Protoss will commit. If you over prepare, you are pretty much much screwed in the mid game.
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On December 01 2013 15:58 Dodgin wrote:I'm sad, I wanted to see Mvp play more mech against zerg but he drew a really good protoss instead  Rotational balance. It's why you have three races, that way you can fake real balance. BW had real balance, but in WoL and HotS, rotational balance has been the order of the day. It's why so many hypothetical nerfs or buffs are impossible for their effects on other matchups; even the game's rotational balance is very fragile.
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At least they managed to balance PvP finally.
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you might want to check up on BW balance again.
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Rooting for DRG now I guess.
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On December 01 2013 16:10 FeyFey wrote: you might want to check up on BW balance again. BW's game mechanics made it easier to balance. Large control groups and unit clumping make imbalances a lot more obvious in SC2.
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yay for two stupid maps getting vetoed!
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On December 01 2013 16:10 FeyFey wrote: you might want to check up on BW balance again. Didn't watch it doesn't count. When I watched 5 hatch hydra was a PITA but the games were good (though a lot less harass ).
Hydra bust time... don't remember or know of it.
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everybody root for DRG ok?
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San 3:1 Hydra herO 3:2 DRG herO 4:2 San
Still hope DRG will win though.
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On December 01 2013 16:15 pigmanbear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 16:10 FeyFey wrote: you might want to check up on BW balance again. BW's game mechanics made it easier to balance. Powerful spells and large control groups make imbalances a lot more ovious in SC2.
BW also had maps to balance the game. And since BW had a bigger team play (pro league) focus, it was fine. With SC2 more individual focus, you don't really want to have maps that are too skewed. That is why we end up have maps that are very similar. Plus very little defender's advantage makes maps not affecting strategy much.
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On December 01 2013 16:00 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 15:58 vthree wrote:On December 01 2013 15:55 painkilla wrote:On December 01 2013 15:52 Fission wrote:On December 01 2013 15:51 painkilla wrote:On December 01 2013 15:48 Vertical wrote:watching Mvp is so frustrating  Didn't you watch WCS/Blizzcon? Top terrans were stomped, didn't matter if Taeja, Bomber, Polt, Maru. Stop blaming Mvp. If only a terran had won a major tournament recently... like, maybe today... Where a 1 year experience toss ran over Polt, MMA, Innovation, only stopped by a Zerg. Patience had a year of 'Pro' experience... I am pretty sure he has been playing much longer than that. Guys, we've only heard of Sora for <6 months, obviously he's only been playing for half a year.
He's played in a bunch of GSL qualifiers before (though had no ID)
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IdrA one of very few casters I don't mute.
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Come on, Hydra. Get revenge for Effort!!
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On December 01 2013 16:17 TommyP wrote: everybody root for DRG ok?
He's the only person I'm rooting for now.
He has to win
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San's Zealots should cost 3 supply.
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