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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
December 01 2013 07:00 GMT
#561
On December 01 2013 15:58 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 15:55 painkilla wrote:
On December 01 2013 15:52 Fission wrote:
On December 01 2013 15:51 painkilla wrote:
On December 01 2013 15:48 Vertical wrote:
watching Mvp is so frustrating


Didn't you watch WCS/Blizzcon? Top terrans were stomped, didn't matter if Taeja, Bomber, Polt, Maru. Stop blaming Mvp.


If only a terran had won a major tournament recently... like, maybe today...


Where a 1 year experience toss ran over Polt, MMA, Innovation, only stopped by a Zerg.


Patience had a year of 'Pro' experience... I am pretty sure he has been playing much longer than that.

Guys, we've only heard of Sora for <6 months, obviously he's only been playing for half a year.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 01 2013 07:03 GMT
#562
On December 01 2013 15:58 Pandain wrote:
Just noting that even if you don't go oracle strategies, the fear + mothership core allows protoss to play far greedier even when standard. He was going like forge, twilight, collusus, all off two base and super fast. It was scary.


Not just oracles, you need to prepare for blink aggression which can outright win you the game. And even if you scout it, the Protoss doesn't have to commit. And then the Terran has to guess whether the Protoss will commit. If you over prepare, you are pretty much much screwed in the mid game.
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 07:07:16
December 01 2013 07:04 GMT
#563
On December 01 2013 15:58 Dodgin wrote:
I'm sad, I wanted to see Mvp play more mech against zerg but he drew a really good protoss instead

Rotational balance. It's why you have three races, that way you can fake real balance. BW had real balance, but in WoL and HotS, rotational balance has been the order of the day. It's why so many hypothetical nerfs or buffs are impossible for their effects on other matchups; even the game's rotational balance is very fragile.
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
December 01 2013 07:09 GMT
#564
At least they managed to balance PvP finally.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 07:10:32
December 01 2013 07:10 GMT
#565
you might want to check up on BW balance again.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
December 01 2013 07:12 GMT
#566
Rooting for DRG now I guess.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
December 01 2013 07:12 GMT
#567
YEAH CYCLOPS ZERG
can i get my estro logo back pls
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
December 01 2013 07:14 GMT
#568
aw no tod and idra =(
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 07:17:25
December 01 2013 07:15 GMT
#569
On December 01 2013 16:10 FeyFey wrote:
you might want to check up on BW balance again.

BW's game mechanics made it easier to balance. Large control groups and unit clumping make imbalances a lot more obvious in SC2.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 01 2013 07:15 GMT
#570
yay for two stupid maps getting vetoed!
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11087 Posts
December 01 2013 07:17 GMT
#571
On December 01 2013 16:10 FeyFey wrote:
you might want to check up on BW balance again.


Didn't watch it doesn't count. When I watched 5 hatch hydra was a PITA but the games were good (though a lot less harass ).

Hydra bust time... don't remember or know of it.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 01 2013 07:17 GMT
#572
everybody root for DRG ok?
#TheOneTrueDong
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
December 01 2013 07:18 GMT
#573
San 3:1 Hydra
herO 3:2 DRG
herO 4:2 San

Still hope DRG will win though.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 01 2013 07:19 GMT
#574
On December 01 2013 16:15 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 16:10 FeyFey wrote:
you might want to check up on BW balance again.

BW's game mechanics made it easier to balance. Powerful spells and large control groups make imbalances a lot more ovious in SC2.


BW also had maps to balance the game. And since BW had a bigger team play (pro league) focus, it was fine. With SC2 more individual focus, you don't really want to have maps that are too skewed. That is why we end up have maps that are very similar. Plus very little defender's advantage makes maps not affecting strategy much.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
December 01 2013 07:23 GMT
#575
On December 01 2013 16:00 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 15:58 vthree wrote:
On December 01 2013 15:55 painkilla wrote:
On December 01 2013 15:52 Fission wrote:
On December 01 2013 15:51 painkilla wrote:
On December 01 2013 15:48 Vertical wrote:
watching Mvp is so frustrating


Didn't you watch WCS/Blizzcon? Top terrans were stomped, didn't matter if Taeja, Bomber, Polt, Maru. Stop blaming Mvp.


If only a terran had won a major tournament recently... like, maybe today...


Where a 1 year experience toss ran over Polt, MMA, Innovation, only stopped by a Zerg.


Patience had a year of 'Pro' experience... I am pretty sure he has been playing much longer than that.

Guys, we've only heard of Sora for <6 months, obviously he's only been playing for half a year.


He's played in a bunch of GSL qualifiers before (though had no ID)
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pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
December 01 2013 07:24 GMT
#576
IdrA one of very few casters I don't mute.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
December 01 2013 07:25 GMT
#577
Come on, Hydra. Get revenge for Effort!!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 01 2013 07:26 GMT
#578
On December 01 2013 16:17 TommyP wrote:
everybody root for DRG ok?


He's the only person I'm rooting for now.

He has to win
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
December 01 2013 07:26 GMT
#579
San's Zealots should cost 3 supply.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
December 01 2013 07:27 GMT
#580
Hydra whyyyyy.....
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