★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
80%
★★★ - Good game (1)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend XiGua vs San Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend XiGua vs San Game 2?
★★★ - Good game (3)
50%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
50%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend XiGua vs San Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend XiGua vs San Game 3?
★★★ - Good game (2)
50%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
25%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
25%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend XiGua vs San Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Curious vs Mvp Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Curious vs Mvp Game 2?
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (7)
58%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
25%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Curious vs Mvp Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Curious vs Mvp Game 3?
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (10)
71%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (3)
21%
★★★ - Good game (1)
7%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Curious vs Mvp Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Mvp Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend San vs Mvp Game 2?
★★★ - Good game (4)
50%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4)
50%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Mvp Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend San vs Mvp Game 3?
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (5)
50%
★★★ - Good game (2)
20%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
10%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Mvp Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
67%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
33%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
3 total votes
Your vote: Recommend XiGua vs Curious Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend XiGua vs Curious Game 2?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
50%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
50%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend XiGua vs Curious Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend XiGua vs Curious Game 3?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
50%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
50%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
2 total votes
Your vote: Recommend XiGua vs Curious Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Mvp vs Curious Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Mvp vs Curious Game 2?
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (11)
65%
★★★ - Good game (4)
24%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
6%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
6%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Mvp vs Curious Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Mvp vs Curious Game 3?
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (4)
44%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (3)
33%
★★★ - Good game (2)
22%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
9 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Mvp vs Curious Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
13%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
13%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend KingKong vs EffOrt Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend KingKong vs EffOrt Game 2?
★★★ - Good game (3)
50%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
33%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend KingKong vs EffOrt Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend KingKong vs EffOrt Game 3?
★★★ - Good game (1)
50%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
50%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
2 total votes
Your vote: Recommend KingKong vs EffOrt Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): XiGua and Curious (Vote): XiGua and Mvp (Vote): XiGua and San (Vote): Curious and Mvp (Vote): Curious and San (Vote): Mvp and San
Poll: Who will advance from Group B?
DongRaeGu and EffOrt (16)
53%
Happy and DongRaeGu (9)
30%
Happy and EffOrt (3)
10%
KingKong and Happy (2)
7%
KingKong and DongRaeGu (0)
0%
KingKong and EffOrt (0)
0%
30 total votes
Your vote: Who will advance from Group B?
(Vote): KingKong and Happy (Vote): KingKong and DongRaeGu (Vote): KingKong and EffOrt (Vote): Happy and DongRaeGu (Vote): Happy and EffOrt (Vote): DongRaeGu and EffOrt
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
80%
★★★ - Good game (1)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
5 total votes
Your vote: Recommend XiGua vs San Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
50%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend XiGua vs San Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
25%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
4 total votes
Your vote: Recommend XiGua vs San Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On November 29 2013 12:41 Dodgin wrote: Xigua pretty clearly outclassed
Agreed. Psyched for Curious vs Mvp.
Psyched to watch Mvp get owned and then get depressed
How did it take me this long to realise that you were a monster?
I'm just being realistic in my expectations to soften the blow of the inevitable wave of sadness that washes over me for at least a day every time Mvp gets knocked out of something.
On November 29 2013 12:45 lichter wrote: LOL this interview
All I hear are questions, no answers
The translator is not doing a good job at all in actually translating the questions either. I think San has a lot of personality in his own way, so hope that's coming across anyway
On November 29 2013 12:52 Herect wrote: Twitch already started stuttering for me. =( And without even getting to 10k viewers yet.
Watching on my Xbox(360) for the first time and it runs surprisingly smooth. Don't think I had any spikes so far. But damn, start the game already. It's 5am and I want to catch atleast one of Mvps games before falling asleep.
On November 29 2013 13:23 lichter wrote: so did he win I need to post polls
Yes, Mvp won g1.
5/5!!!
Poll: Recommend Curious vs Mvp Game 1?
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (15)
79%
★★★ - Good game (3)
16%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
5%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Curious vs Mvp Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On November 29 2013 13:21 stuchiu wrote: YOU SEE FLASH, YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH MECH IS IN MVP'S HANDS?
a close game despite Curious being at 24 drones vs 3 orbital 44 scvs at one point in the game?
Yo, it was just as bad in Flash's game on a better map.
It really wasn't, and which game are you talking about? Flash has beaten several zergs with his mech. You could go battlecruisers off that economy and still win. Flash mech is at least as good as MVP's.
On November 29 2013 13:21 stuchiu wrote: YOU SEE FLASH, YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH MECH IS IN MVP'S HANDS?
a close game despite Curious being at 24 drones vs 3 orbital 44 scvs at one point in the game?
Yo, it was just as bad in Flash's game on a better map.
It really wasn't, and which game are you talking about? Flash has beaten several zergs with his mech. You could go battlecruisers off that economy and still win. Flash mech is at least as good as MVP's.
I mean his IEM NY game where he had an extremely big advantage against Curious on Belshir Vestige with mech then died to Curious' pure battle control with vipers.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
8%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Curious vs Mvp Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
That was a really cool bw-esque transition into mech by mvp. If he was a little more aggressive and prevented curious from getting more than 4 bases I think it would have been much stronger.
On November 29 2013 13:45 Eshez wrote: not continuing mine production was a really weird choice, they are absolutely crucial vs ultras..
He had plenty of firepower for killing ultras between thors and tanks, what he lacked was the ability to down all those lings fast enough. He needed a lot more marines or hellbats if he was going to make that push into the expansion work.
On November 29 2013 13:45 Eshez wrote: not continuing mine production was a really weird choice, they are absolutely crucial vs ultras..
He had plenty of firepower for killing ultras between thors and tanks, what he lacked was the ability to down all those lings fast enough. He needed a lot more marines or hellbats if he was going to make that push into the expansion work.
..did we watch the same fight? the lings did nothing
On November 29 2013 13:45 Eshez wrote: not continuing mine production was a really weird choice, they are absolutely crucial vs ultras..
He had plenty of firepower for killing ultras between thors and tanks, what he lacked was the ability to down all those lings fast enough. He needed a lot more marines or hellbats if he was going to make that push into the expansion work.
..did we watch the same fight? the lings did nothing
On November 29 2013 13:45 Eshez wrote: not continuing mine production was a really weird choice, they are absolutely crucial vs ultras..
He had plenty of firepower for killing ultras between thors and tanks, what he lacked was the ability to down all those lings fast enough. He needed a lot more marines or hellbats if he was going to make that push into the expansion work.
..did we watch the same fight? the lings did nothing
except allow the ultras to get in close. They tank a lot.
On November 29 2013 13:45 Eshez wrote: not continuing mine production was a really weird choice, they are absolutely crucial vs ultras..
He had plenty of firepower for killing ultras between thors and tanks, what he lacked was the ability to down all those lings fast enough. He needed a lot more marines or hellbats if he was going to make that push into the expansion work.
..did we watch the same fight? the lings did nothing
The lings kept the mech units shooting at things that weren't ultras long enough for the ultras to get in and attack the mech with all their health. The lings were crucial.
mvp would've lost the fight even if all the lings' supply was used for ultras... clumped tank/thor is going to be destroyed by ultras unless you have a lot of mines in front. hence why the most common way to play mech is to turtle..
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Curious vs Mvp Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On November 29 2013 14:01 stuchiu wrote: Now will Mvp mech in TvP? That's the question. If Supernova can do it, I imagine Mvp may have tried it as well.
On November 29 2013 14:01 stuchiu wrote: Now will Mvp mech in TvP? That's the question. If Supernova can do it, I imagine Mvp may have tried it as well.
He will pick up from where Sea left. MASS TANKS.
He tried that once, I remember a game very long ago on Tal'Darim Altar where he was making these ridiculous armies with 20+ tanks and still lost.
since combined upgrades you can actually use banshees rather well against toss to peel of shields. Atleast I managed to win a bit without ghosts when going Mech. Means nothing for pro play though.
On November 29 2013 14:04 Carmac wrote: Tarson flew over to Singapore to support Mvp in the background. He just brought him a Subway sandwich and a cola. It's hilarious.
On November 29 2013 14:03 lichter wrote: I WAS BUSY EATING
THIS IS WHY I DONT WATCH MVP
until he loses then you'll wish you watched him or maybe not
On November 29 2013 14:04 Carmac wrote: Tarson flew over to Singapore to support Mvp in the background. He just brought him a Subway sandwich and a cola. It's hilarious.
On November 29 2013 14:04 Carmac wrote: Tarson flew over to Singapore to support Mvp in the background. He just brought him a Subway sandwich and a cola. It's hilarious.
On November 29 2013 14:04 Carmac wrote: Tarson flew over to Singapore to support Mvp in the background. He just brought him a Subway sandwich and a cola. It's hilarious.
That's hilarious xD. Is that actually the main reason o_O?
On November 29 2013 14:04 Carmac wrote: Tarson flew over to Singapore to support Mvp in the background. He just brought him a Subway sandwich and a cola. It's hilarious.
On November 29 2013 14:04 Carmac wrote: Tarson flew over to Singapore to support Mvp in the background. He just brought him a Subway sandwich and a cola. It's hilarious.
That's hilarious xD. Is that actually the main reason o_O?
On November 29 2013 14:04 Carmac wrote: Tarson flew over to Singapore to support Mvp in the background. He just brought him a Subway sandwich and a cola. It's hilarious.
I've never eaten a Subway sandwich. Are they... edible?
On November 29 2013 14:04 Carmac wrote: Tarson flew over to Singapore to support Mvp in the background. He just brought him a Subway sandwich and a cola. It's hilarious.
I've never eaten a Subway sandwich. Are they... edible?
On November 29 2013 14:01 goody153 wrote: i always thought curious was a better player .. oh well .. Mech works !
you always thought Curious was a better player than a 4x GSL champion? Interesting.
i meant in their current form as of today since curious was beating good players left and right .. seems i was wrong though
Coming into this tournament I don't think a single person would have told you Mvp is the favorite to beat Curious. Seems like the patch helped him a lot in TvZ.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Mvp Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
8 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Mvp Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On November 29 2013 14:51 Dodgin wrote: No one should ever do DT's against Mvp in TvP, he loses to straight up play more often than trickery. I am reminded of Game 5 vs Rain.
On November 29 2013 14:57 Dodgin wrote: If you didn't have any clue about the game and just listened to the casters you would think TvP is as broken as BL/infestor was
pft it is, T could at least do damage against Z at some point in the game back then, now it's P>T early game, mid game, and late game
On November 29 2013 14:57 leo23 wrote: completely outplayed MVP... damn
I wouldn't say completely outplayed. Mvp went for a very clever opening, but San's defense of it was brilliant. Then Mvp defended the DT's okay-ish and had a good counter, also taking out the third. But San, instead of all-inning, played really smart and just contained Mvp with HT's. I hate storm and all, but it was really clever play from San. A really good match, no one really "outplaying" the other.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend San vs Mvp Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Casters need to stop overhyping games with media play and start calling out the bullshit and mistakes players make. They just sound fake as fuck when they say cer t Aun games are great when they themselves know that the games are complete shit
On November 29 2013 14:59 ladysman09 wrote: Casters need to stop overhyping games with media play and start calling out the bullshit and mistakes players make. They just sound fake as fuck when they say cer t Aun games are great when they themselves know that the games are complete shit
On November 29 2013 14:57 Seeker wrote: Must... Resist... Urge... To... Balance... Whine...
i hope so, because you should be better than that.
I don't think you understand... If I wanted to, I could take that game we saw just now, create a thread after I dissect it into tiny little pieces, and CLEARLY show everyone what is wrong with this matchup right now...
On November 29 2013 14:57 Seeker wrote: Must... Resist... Urge... To... Balance... Whine...
i hope so, because you should be better than that.
I don't think you understand... If I wanted to, I could take that game we saw just now, create a thread after I dissect it into tiny little pieces, and CLEARLY show everyone what is wrong with this matchup right now...
On November 29 2013 14:57 Seeker wrote: Must... Resist... Urge... To... Balance... Whine...
i hope so, because you should be better than that.
I don't think you understand... If I wanted to, I could take that game we saw just now, create a thread after I dissect it into tiny little pieces, and CLEARLY show everyone what is wrong with this matchup right now...
On November 29 2013 15:01 covetousrat wrote: San did Warp Prism with HT to dodge EMP. I wonder why Terrans are not doing Ghost+ Medicvac boost like what Byun did ages ago to EMP and snipe
but if the HTs are in warp prism, what's the point of having ghosts inside the medivac?
On November 29 2013 14:57 Seeker wrote: Must... Resist... Urge... To... Balance... Whine...
i hope so, because you should be better than that.
I don't think you understand... If I wanted to, I could take that game we saw just now, create a thread after I dissect it into tiny little pieces, and CLEARLY show everyone what is wrong with this matchup right now...
I respect you and your contributions are great but please don't post about stuff you don't understand ^^
On November 29 2013 15:01 covetousrat wrote: San did Warp Prism with HT to dodge EMP. I wonder why Terrans are not doing Ghost+ Medicvac boost like what Byun did ages ago to EMP and snipe
but if the HTs are in warp prism, what's the point of having ghosts inside the medivac?
On November 29 2013 15:01 covetousrat wrote: San did Warp Prism with HT to dodge EMP. I wonder why Terrans are not doing Ghost+ Medicvac boost like what Byun did ages ago to EMP and snipe
but if the HTs are in warp prism, what's the point of having ghosts inside the medivac?
On November 29 2013 15:04 DarkLordOlli wrote: According to forums protoss is not allowed to exist
While I don't think it's imbalanced exactly, I think the way Protoss exists right now mechanically isn't quite right. I think certain things need a rework.
On November 29 2013 14:57 Seeker wrote: Must... Resist... Urge... To... Balance... Whine...
i hope so, because you should be better than that.
I don't think you understand... If I wanted to, I could take that game we saw just now, create a thread after I dissect it into tiny little pieces, and CLEARLY show everyone what is wrong with this matchup right now...
I respect you and your contributions are great but please don't post about stuff you don't understand ^^
Oo;; And what exactly makes you think this is stuff I don't understand?
On November 29 2013 15:01 covetousrat wrote: San did Warp Prism with HT to dodge EMP. I wonder why Terrans are not doing Ghost+ Medicvac boost like what Byun did ages ago to EMP and snipe
but if the HTs are in warp prism, what's the point of having ghosts inside the medivac?
On November 29 2013 15:01 covetousrat wrote: San did Warp Prism with HT to dodge EMP. I wonder why Terrans are not doing Ghost+ Medicvac boost like what Byun did ages ago to EMP and snipe
but if the HTs are in warp prism, what's the point of having ghosts inside the medivac?
Zealots and archons u take out all shields.
but your army can also melt to all those storms too and counter warp in chargelots
On November 29 2013 15:01 covetousrat wrote: San did Warp Prism with HT to dodge EMP. I wonder why Terrans are not doing Ghost+ Medicvac boost like what Byun did ages ago to EMP and snipe
but if the HTs are in warp prism, what's the point of having ghosts inside the medivac?
Zealots and archons u take out all shields.
Terrans can EMP the zealots and archons fine without having to be in medivacs since those units are in front. Terrans usually have trouble getting to the HTs that are flanking or sit at the back of the Protoss army and storm mid fight. One of the big down side of EMP is that it is great as front load damage. But a ghost EMPing mid fight does very little damage compare to storming mid fight.
However, ghosts do have cloak and snipe has one range. But I think in large engagements, HTs are slight more valuable. Plus they can turn into archons if they run out of energy.
I think maybe making ghosts 150/150 will help since Ts need a gas dump in the late game.
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Your vote: Recommend XiGua vs Curious Game 1?
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On November 29 2013 15:17 Parcelleus wrote: Mvp wins GSL with blue flame cheese and other abuse and he is the greatest ?
Game becomes more balanced and an influx of kespa players, Mvp struggles so terran is imbalanced ? LOL
Well done San, slapped him down nicely.
Although I am not fan of MVP but actually MVP is one of the smartest player and thus won many championships. His plan in a Best of x series is above other players. Remember GSL game 7 against Squirtle? Thats pure genius with failed proxy raxes and then hiding Marines to flank the stalkers. Cheese is a form of strategy. Pros play to win not to entertain.
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Your vote: Recommend XiGua vs Curious Game 2?
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IdrA the only reason why I'm watching this. Say what you will about his attitude, he's quite an insightful caster and relatively well spoken. Plus, you never know when something interesting might come out... enjoyable so far.
On November 29 2013 15:30 Horo wrote: IdrA the only reason why I'm watching this. Say what you will about his attitude, he's quite an insightful caster and relatively well spoken. Plus, you never know when something interesting might come out... enjoyable so far.
IdrA's attitude only really comes out when he's playing the game. When he's casting, the dude's a sick baller.
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On November 29 2013 16:06 skyflyfish wrote: damn, too strong , nerf inc.....
Curious played that rather badly, not to take anything from mvp's game. He should've gotten spores and kept up with upgrades. Letting mvp get that third uncontested was a bad idea although the roach counter attack was good imo.
On November 29 2013 16:08 lystier wrote: Mvp is soooo good at mech and it's been a long time since i've seen a good mech terran wp mvp!
Shouldn't be surprised. He was the first terran to really dominate with Mech in TvT back in mid 2011. And then he also popularized the banshee into mech TvZ build at the end of WoL vs the 6 Queen openings.
On November 29 2013 16:09 Schelim wrote: Mvp is in bracket stage, let's just give him his trophy already. also Idra is hilarious.
I don't see him winning if he has to play a good Protoss, but we'll see.
we said that before. and then he beat one protoss after another after another and even crushed the last one's soul so hard he ended up joining Mvp's team.
On November 29 2013 16:07 lichter wrote: someone take over plz
You create OPs for three tournaments all on at the same time and now you're backing out? Pftt
Because it was 30 minutes from time and nobody had done it yet
Someone needs to take over because I need to premake the DH OP in between actually working T_T
lichter, trust me when I say this. If you don't do something on TL, someone else will. It may not happen immediately, but it happens eventually. If you knew you were going to be busy, then you shouldn't have made this thread
On November 29 2013 16:07 lichter wrote: someone take over plz
You create OPs for three tournaments all on at the same time and now you're backing out? Pftt
Because it was 30 minutes from time and nobody had done it yet
Someone needs to take over because I need to premake the DH OP in between actually working T_T
lichter, trust me when I say this. If you don't do something on TL, someone else will. It may not happen immediately, but it happens eventually. If you knew you were going to be busy, then you shouldn't have made this thread
One time I wasnt around to make WCS AM thread during Novemberstorm's lost ban bet and no one made the thread
On November 29 2013 16:07 lichter wrote: someone take over plz
You create OPs for three tournaments all on at the same time and now you're backing out? Pftt
Because it was 30 minutes from time and nobody had done it yet
Someone needs to take over because I need to premake the DH OP in between actually working T_T
lichter, trust me when I say this. If you don't do something on TL, someone else will. It may not happen immediately, but it happens eventually. If you knew you were going to be busy, then you shouldn't have made this thread
One time I wasnt around to make WCS AM thread during Novemberstorm's lost ban bet and no one made the thread
On November 29 2013 16:09 Schelim wrote: Mvp is in bracket stage, let's just give him his trophy already. also Idra is hilarious.
I don't see him winning if he has to play a good Protoss, but we'll see.
if only mech is viable vs protoss....
Maybe it is and we just don't know it yet
some gm players make mech work ... although idk if it works on the highest level of play .. but terran pros might still be exploring with mech thats why we dont see it too often
On November 29 2013 16:07 lichter wrote: someone take over plz
You create OPs for three tournaments all on at the same time and now you're backing out? Pftt
Because it was 30 minutes from time and nobody had done it yet
Someone needs to take over because I need to premake the DH OP in between actually working T_T
lichter, trust me when I say this. If you don't do something on TL, someone else will. It may not happen immediately, but it happens eventually. If you knew you were going to be busy, then you shouldn't have made this thread
One time I wasnt around to make WCS AM thread during Novemberstorm's lost ban bet and no one made the thread
I remember that.
Never again, NovstOrm, never again will I bet with you
On November 29 2013 16:07 lichter wrote: someone take over plz
You create OPs for three tournaments all on at the same time and now you're backing out? Pftt
Because it was 30 minutes from time and nobody had done it yet
Someone needs to take over because I need to premake the DH OP in between actually working T_T
lichter, trust me when I say this. If you don't do something on TL, someone else will. It may not happen immediately, but it happens eventually. If you knew you were going to be busy, then you shouldn't have made this thread
One time I wasnt around to make WCS AM thread during Novemberstorm's lost ban bet and no one made the thread
I remember that.
Never again, NovstOrm, never again will I bet with you
On November 29 2013 16:07 lichter wrote: someone take over plz
You create OPs for three tournaments all on at the same time and now you're backing out? Pftt
Because it was 30 minutes from time and nobody had done it yet
Someone needs to take over because I need to premake the DH OP in between actually working T_T
lichter, trust me when I say this. If you don't do something on TL, someone else will. It may not happen immediately, but it happens eventually. If you knew you were going to be busy, then you shouldn't have made this thread
One time I wasnt around to make WCS AM thread during Novemberstorm's lost ban bet and no one made the thread
Well that was a rare case then. Also, that's when you bump the previously made WCS AM thread and ask why no one's made it yet.
On November 29 2013 16:07 lichter wrote: someone take over plz
You create OPs for three tournaments all on at the same time and now you're backing out? Pftt
Because it was 30 minutes from time and nobody had done it yet
Someone needs to take over because I need to premake the DH OP in between actually working T_T
lichter, trust me when I say this. If you don't do something on TL, someone else will. It may not happen immediately, but it happens eventually. If you knew you were going to be busy, then you shouldn't have made this thread
One time I wasnt around to make WCS AM thread during Novemberstorm's lost ban bet and no one made the thread
Well that was a rare case then. Also, that's when you bump the previously made WCS AM thread and ask why no one's made it yet.
On November 29 2013 16:07 lichter wrote: someone take over plz
You create OPs for three tournaments all on at the same time and now you're backing out? Pftt
Because it was 30 minutes from time and nobody had done it yet
Someone needs to take over because I need to premake the DH OP in between actually working T_T
lichter, trust me when I say this. If you don't do something on TL, someone else will. It may not happen immediately, but it happens eventually. If you knew you were going to be busy, then you shouldn't have made this thread
One time I wasnt around to make WCS AM thread during Novemberstorm's lost ban bet and no one made the thread
Well that was a rare case then. Also, that's when you bump the previously made WCS AM thread and ask why no one's made it yet.
On November 29 2013 16:23 Dodgin wrote: I can't wait for Mvp to play in Proleague again, that's going to be so sweet.
Yeah I'm more excited for this Proleague season than I have been for anything since Mvp's finals appearance in WCS season 1. Can't wait to see what IM can do.
On November 29 2013 16:23 Dodgin wrote: I can't wait for Mvp to play in Proleague again, that's going to be so sweet.
Yeah I'm more excited for this Proleague season than I have been for anything since Mvp's finals appearance in WCS season 1. Can't wait to see what IM can do.
Man what the hell is up with Mvp. Look terrible for a long time, bomb out everywhere? Randomly come to some tournament and demolish everybody. Some things are beyond our understanding
On November 29 2013 16:23 Dodgin wrote: I can't wait for Mvp to play in Proleague again, that's going to be so sweet.
Yeah I'm more excited for this Proleague season than I have been for anything since Mvp's finals appearance in WCS season 1. Can't wait to see what IM can do.
MVP is the real scary team.
Mayhaps, but as an IM fanboy I must blindly ignore all other teams.
On November 29 2013 16:23 Dodgin wrote: I can't wait for Mvp to play in Proleague again, that's going to be so sweet.
Yeah I'm more excited for this Proleague season than I have been for anything since Mvp's finals appearance in WCS season 1. Can't wait to see what IM can do.
On November 29 2013 16:31 DarkLordOlli wrote: Man what the hell is up with Mvp. Look terrible for a long time, bomb out everywhere? Randomly come to some tournament and demolish everybody. Some things are beyond our understanding
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On November 29 2013 16:31 DarkLordOlli wrote: Man what the hell is up with Mvp. Look terrible for a long time, bomb out everywhere? Randomly come to some tournament and demolish everybody. Some things are beyond our understanding
everybody? I guess he kind of demolished San in the one game on whirlwind
On November 29 2013 16:23 Dodgin wrote: I can't wait for Mvp to play in Proleague again, that's going to be so sweet.
Yeah I'm more excited for this Proleague season than I have been for anything since Mvp's finals appearance in WCS season 1. Can't wait to see what IM can do.
MVP is the real scary team.
IM beat MVP in the 2013 Season 1 GSTL finals (MVP won the regular season series). I think they are pretty evenly matched.
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This rehost just changed history forever. Instead of close spawn, now they're far apart. This could easily change the outcome of the game because now we will never know what could have happened.
Looks like Mvp is dead set on making mech work. And it worked against Curious with ease. It seemed like Curious didn't really know what to do about it. Mvp making TvZ meta mechy instead of biomines! :D
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
i think mvp was doing a timing attack .. i think happy is trying to win a long macro game here
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
didnot know mvp played mech today ... well mvp aint good anymore and he will lose vs a good opponent if he uses mech
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
didnot know mvp played mech today ... well mvp aint good anymore and he will lose vs a good opponent if he uses mech
he actually was doing good today except facing SAN ..
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
didnot know mvp played mech today ... well mvp aint good anymore and he will lose vs a good opponent if he uses mech
he ain't good anymore and used mech which you think sucks in sc2 and he won with it?
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
didnot know mvp played mech today ... well mvp aint good anymore and he will lose vs a good opponent if he uses mech
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
didnot know mvp played mech today ... well mvp aint good anymore and he will lose vs a good opponent if he uses mech
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
didnot know mvp played mech today ... well mvp aint good anymore and he will lose vs a good opponent if he uses mech
he ain't good anymore and used mech which you think sucks in sc2 and he won with it?
vs a weak opponent .... ,mvp tried mech vs jaedong and lost 0-3 and was crushed badly .....
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
i think mvp was doing a timing attack .. i think happy is trying to win a long macro game here
Very true. While it may not necessarily be viable late game just yet, it's certainly a possibility when used correctly, like in Mvp's timing attack.
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
didnot know mvp played mech today ... well mvp aint good anymore and he will lose vs a good opponent if he uses mech
he ain't good anymore and used mech which you think sucks in sc2 and he won with it?
vs a weak opponent .... ,mvp tried mech vs jaedong and lost 0-3 and was crushed badly .....
Curious is far from a weak opponent. And there have been buffs to Mech since Mvp lost to Jaedong.
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
didnot know mvp played mech today ... well mvp aint good anymore and he will lose vs a good opponent if he uses mech
I mean sure there is always the possibility that the meching players has practiced his mech 10 times more than his opponent since its quite unusual but dont ever call curious bad plz.
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
didnot know mvp played mech today ... well mvp aint good anymore and he will lose vs a good opponent if he uses mech
he ain't good anymore and used mech which you think sucks in sc2 and he won with it?
vs a weak opponent .... ,mvp tried mech vs jaedong and lost 0-3 and was crushed badly .....
Did you just call Curious (in ZvT no less) a weak opponent? When are you from, 2010?
On November 29 2013 17:53 Butterz wrote: mech sucks in starcraft 2 ... why cant people just accept it
You say that after watching a decent foreigner lose using Mech vs a really good Korean Zerg in spite of Mvp beating Curious using mech several times today? Lol.
didnot know mvp played mech today ... well mvp aint good anymore and he will lose vs a good opponent if he uses mech
he ain't good anymore and used mech which you think sucks in sc2 and he won with it?
vs a weak opponent .... ,mvp tried mech vs jaedong and lost 0-3 and was crushed badly .....
lol .. do you even watch curious zvt .. its absolutely good .. he can take out good tvz terrans in a good day .. that includes innovation and other
Curious isn't a bad player, I expected him to win against Mvp, but Mvp finally made mech good thanks to the latest patch that buffed mech. Then again, I don't see this work against everyone and I think Mvp's strat is limited to timing attacks as I don't see mech work in a long macro game.
On November 29 2013 18:02 Seeker wrote: That game just now could have gone so much better for Happy had he mixed in a couple of ghosts for EMP.
or hellion sniping infestors ..
Or 30+ battlecruisers.
I like the way you think.
And then you see it, get sad, forget about what you saw and some time later wish for it to happen again. The abusing thought which you love too much to let go.
Effort proving that Upgrade war is just as important as making units. DRG going to lose if he doesn't figure it out Ahh he did +1 armor done, now make +2 for overkill
On November 29 2013 19:52 AxionSteel wrote: Happy has always been more than capable of playing boring although something tells me i've argued this with you before.
On November 29 2013 19:54 Undead1993 wrote: @axionsteel yes we did argue on that, but he played awesomely at hsc, so i expected him to continue this trend nvm i guess :D
I'm thinking KingKong is actually like "Wow, he actually let me stay alive for ages. This guy actually...isn't great. K, I'll smash him next two games."
This is absurd. People complained because infestors were spellcaster units being made en masse and so they got nerfed. How do you justify 29 ravens then?
even as a terran player i wish they'd remove ravens. most likely they'll just nerf it to death which is also okay, but i'd rather they replace it with a not retarded unit :3
and to be fair, mass raven is just as boring and annoying as mass swarm host. they both just infinitely zone out the enemy's army in a defensive, turtly way
On November 29 2013 20:42 RPR_Tempest wrote: This is absurd. People complained because infestors were spellcaster units being made en masse and so they got nerfed. How do you justify 29 ravens then?
How can ravens instantly end the game with 1 spell that you can't micro against?
On November 29 2013 20:42 RPR_Tempest wrote: This is absurd. People complained because infestors were spellcaster units being made en masse and so they got nerfed. How do you justify 29 ravens then?
How can ravens instantly end the game with 1 spell that you can't micro against?
Hunter Seeker missile is a lot like Fungal. If it hits you, you're fucked. Only way to micro out of it is by not letting it hit you by moving away from the spellcaster.
On November 29 2013 20:42 RPR_Tempest wrote: This is absurd. People complained because infestors were spellcaster units being made en masse and so they got nerfed. How do you justify 29 ravens then?
How can ravens instantly end the game with 1 spell that you can't micro against?
Hunter Seeker missile is a lot like Fungal. If it hits you, you're fucked. Only way to micro out of it is by not letting it hit you by moving away from the spellcaster.
you realize taht fungle got nerfed becausei t was an instant spell, you cant micro out of it, but yo ucan micro out of hsm pretty easy
On November 29 2013 20:52 Waise wrote: i honestly think skymech vs zerg is actually worse to watch than swarm host static defense vs protoss
I agree. Usually way less happens until the mech player finally decides to move out....However, this might just be a matter of perspective =)
It is boring but it comes down to the same reason Toss vs swarm hosts is boring, moving out for the non zerg player just becomes too risky. SHs just automatically lead to stalemate games, unfortunately
Its sad because I orignally liked the concept, in practise its really bad.
On November 29 2013 20:50 coverpunch wrote: This series is watching two guys knife-fight with spoons.
So Thorzain v Thorzain?
I think even Thorzain would have been like: "Come on, man! This is ridiculous" :p
On November 29 2013 20:52 Waise wrote: i honestly think skymech vs zerg is actually worse to watch than swarm host static defense vs protoss
I agree. Usually way less happens until the mech player finally decides to move out....However, this might just be a matter of perspective =)
It is boring but it comes down to the same reason Toss vs swarm hosts is boring, moving out for the non zerg player just becomes too risky. SHs just automatically lead to stalemate games, unfortunately
Its sad because I orignally liked the concept, in practise its really bad.
but zerg has to stalemate by design in lategame because they have weaker units, so the problem doesn't originate with SHs
On November 29 2013 20:50 coverpunch wrote: This series is watching two guys knife-fight with spoons.
So Thorzain v Thorzain?
I think even Thorzain would have been like: "Come on, man! This is ridiculous" :p
On November 29 2013 20:52 Waise wrote: i honestly think skymech vs zerg is actually worse to watch than swarm host static defense vs protoss
I agree. Usually way less happens until the mech player finally decides to move out....However, this might just be a matter of perspective =)
It is boring but it comes down to the same reason Toss vs swarm hosts is boring, moving out for the non zerg player just becomes too risky. SHs just automatically lead to stalemate games, unfortunately
Its sad because I orignally liked the concept, in practise its really bad.
but zerg has to stalemate by design in lategame because they have weaker units, so the problem doesn't originate with SHs
Zerg can't deal with sky terran yeah, they can fight the ground army without swarm hosts though
On November 29 2013 20:50 coverpunch wrote: This series is watching two guys knife-fight with spoons.
So Thorzain v Thorzain?
I think even Thorzain would have been like: "Come on, man! This is ridiculous" :p
On November 29 2013 20:52 Waise wrote: i honestly think skymech vs zerg is actually worse to watch than swarm host static defense vs protoss
I agree. Usually way less happens until the mech player finally decides to move out....However, this might just be a matter of perspective =)
It is boring but it comes down to the same reason Toss vs swarm hosts is boring, moving out for the non zerg player just becomes too risky. SHs just automatically lead to stalemate games, unfortunately
Its sad because I orignally liked the concept, in practise its really bad.
but zerg has to stalemate by design in lategame because they have weaker units, so the problem doesn't originate with SHs
uh no, they don't have weaker units. At the very least that is not a fact and you certainly didn't prove it.