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Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 28 2013 15:14 GMT
#1121
patience went full foreigner and tlo wins first game \o/
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
November 28 2013 15:14 GMT
#1122
That would have looked way different if he managed to squeeze in zealot charge somewhere. Those slow zealots died so fast.
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
November 28 2013 15:14 GMT
#1123
Lets be honest, that was a build that went terribly for Naniwa, yet there were points where it actually looked like he was ahead. Hopefully he can get his act together in the next game.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 28 2013 15:14 GMT
#1124
The Jönköping Massacre
AdministratorBreak the chains
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 28 2013 15:15 GMT
#1125
On November 29 2013 00:14 sAsImre wrote:
from an exterior pov it just feels like queen + hydra is vastly superior to pure hydra :o

everything is better than just hydra off creep
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 15:15:15
November 28 2013 15:15 GMT
#1126
On November 29 2013 00:13 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 00:13 Keeemy wrote:
JYP not expecting the muta switch


Just sat with blink stalkers?

Could've made phoenix to totally hard counter the switch but kept making voids. Still not making phoenixes tho so maybe he doesn't like them.

This is gg.
Hello
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
November 28 2013 15:15 GMT
#1127
naniwa almost won throwing 7 oracles.. he's gonna destroy hyun on a standard game -_-
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
November 28 2013 15:15 GMT
#1128
What happened to Polt?! He got destroyed
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2444 Posts
November 28 2013 15:15 GMT
#1129
On November 29 2013 00:14 sAsImre wrote:
from an exterior pov it just feels like queen + hydra is vastly superior to pure hydra :o

It is, but it's hard to attack with queens, and if it delays your attack long enough that protoss get templar out, then you lose anyway
Progamer一条咸鱼
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
November 28 2013 15:15 GMT
#1130
On November 29 2013 00:14 Greendotz wrote:
Lets be honest, that was a build that went terribly for Naniwa, yet there were points where it actually looked like he was ahead. Hopefully he can get his act together in the next game.

He was definetly ahead, he just decided to play like an idiot, and eventually he got punished for it
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 28 2013 15:15 GMT
#1131
On November 29 2013 00:14 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 00:12 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 00:10 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On November 29 2013 00:09 TheDwf wrote:
Why do Zergs keep trying hydras against Voids if it doesn't work?

Because everything else is just worse...

Are you sure that pure hydras is better than trying to mix some Queens, and perhaps a few Infestors?

Assuming you can have everything at the time you would have ~20 Hydras. Of course it is better, what if you wait to get 20 Hydras with Queens and Infestors, Protoss might as well have 3 Colossi with that Void Ray deathball.

Unsure chain suiciding hydras and not even manage to reduce much the Void count is a better solution.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46537 Posts
November 28 2013 15:16 GMT
#1132
Loving the commentary by iNcontroL and Apollo so far 2 of my favorite casters ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 15:16:24
November 28 2013 15:16 GMT
#1133
This air vs anti air was too tense...
My prediction: next buff incoming - Voidrays, speed increased
Reason: we felt that they weren't microable enough
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
November 28 2013 15:16 GMT
#1134
On November 29 2013 00:15 Extenz wrote:
naniwa almost won throwing 7 oracles.. he's gonna destroy hyun on a standard game -_-


He did force 10 spores and kill 10-15 drones and a queen or 2. Wouldn't say throw.

Even delayed 4th.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 28 2013 15:16 GMT
#1135
On November 29 2013 00:15 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 00:13 Pandemona wrote:
On November 29 2013 00:13 Keeemy wrote:
JYP not expecting the muta switch


Just sat with blink stalkers?

Could've made phoenix to totally hard counter the switch but kept making voids. Still not making phoenixes tho so maybe he doesn't like them.

This is gg.


Yeah i am at work so i only have one monitor whilst i was typing that i didn't see how big the muta switch was and yeh completely out done him XD

GG
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 28 2013 15:16 GMT
#1136
On November 29 2013 00:15 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 00:14 sAsImre wrote:
from an exterior pov it just feels like queen + hydra is vastly superior to pure hydra :o

It is, but it's hard to attack with queens, and if it delays your attack long enough that protoss get templar out, then you lose anyway


ok and would it be realistic to get ovi in place to get creep after you clean up the initial P aggression or is it unrealistic?
Zest fanboy.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 28 2013 15:16 GMT
#1137
(Z)Life 1-0 (P)JYP
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 15:16:39
November 28 2013 15:16 GMT
#1138
Dominant Life is best Life.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 28 2013 15:16 GMT
#1139
JYPwned
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12124 Posts
November 28 2013 15:16 GMT
#1140
If Life goes "full Nerchio", did I hear that correctly?
ROFL :D
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