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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:14 Ramiz1989 wrote: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nsImZYh.png) What? LOL Don't know if this is already posted, just saw it on another site. Thats gold right there! | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
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Ana_
Finland453 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:16 Undead1993 wrote: dunno how anyone could hype him, i wonder the same about demuslim they both are sooo mehhh and still they have people who say they are the next best thing. Lucifron has his moments of brilliance, but he goes full foreigner quite often. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:17 NovaMB wrote: At this rate I dont even know if hes the best Terran on mouz anymore mouzThorzain will always be the best mouz Terran. | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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bourne117
United States837 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:16 Zealously wrote: At one point, Forge expand was essentially the only commonly used opening in PvZ. If one particular opening is stronger or gives you more option than other openings, there is literally no reason to use another opening. sOs is very good at using proxy oracle openers, and it'd be strange if he stopped doing them just because he's used it a lot before. The difference is forge expand is a safe macro opening. Using a very risky proxy opening at such a high rate is very different. If the terran spots it he can almost auto lose. Forge expand was almost never an auto loss for the toss. That is a huge difference. | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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Fhiz
361 Posts
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:16 Undead1993 wrote: dunno how anyone could hype him, i wonder the same about demuslim they both are sooo mehhh and still they have people who say they are the next best thing. Cause they dont know jack about the korean scene i guess. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:18 bourne117 wrote: The difference is forge expand is a safe macro opening. Using a very risky proxy opening at such a high rate is very different. If the terran spots it he can almost auto lose. Forge expand was almost never an auto loss for the toss. That is a huge difference. Nope, alas. There's not much risk with proxy Oracle. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:18 bourne117 wrote: The difference is forge expand is a safe macro opening. Using a very risky proxy opening at such a high rate is very different. If the terran spots it he can almost auto lose. Forge expand was almost never an auto loss for the toss. That is a huge difference. The way sOs plays it, it's almost never an automatic loss for him either. Several times, he did very little damage and still managed to come out ahead. A little like Life's 10-pool openers in WoL. | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:18 bourne117 wrote: The difference is forge expand is a safe macro opening. Using a very risky proxy opening at such a high rate is very different. If the terran spots it he can almost auto lose. Forge expand was almost never an auto loss for the toss. That is a huge difference. There is no risk to oracle proxy? | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:20 Aeromi wrote: ForGG can't finish 1st or 2nd anymore ? Afaik, he can be 2nd if Innovation wins.. too lazy to check the mapscore though | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:18 bourne117 wrote: The difference is forge expand is a safe macro opening. Using a very risky proxy opening at such a high rate is very different. If the terran spots it he can almost auto lose. Forge expand was almost never an auto loss for the toss. That is a huge difference. The thing is this proxy oracle opening isn't as risky as you make it out to be. sOs wouldn't use it at such a frequent rate if it just auto loses to a scout. | ||
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:20 Aeromi wrote: ForGG can't finish 1st or 2nd anymore ? If he beats TaeJa he can. Innovation could overtake him with a 2-0 though, should he lose to TaeJa | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
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bourne117
United States837 Posts
On November 29 2013 07:19 Zealously wrote: The way sOs plays it, it's almost never an automatic loss for him either. Several times, he did very little damage and still managed to come out ahead. A little like Life's 10-pool openers in WoL. He did almost no damage but it didn't get spotted. For example the terran spots it while the Stargate is building he is massively behind. He gets NOTHING out of it. That was more the auto loss I was talking about. | ||
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