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On November 23 2013 21:03 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 21:02 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:01 sharkie wrote:
how did Innovation have a way bigger army than SuNo? super big choke Inno stopped producing SCVs at 31, he was going all in sorry, but the bigger income from SuNo can surely negate cut scv production, that cant be the reason...
Bigger income will eventually beat out the lower econ, but spending on SCV production does actually cut into army production short term.
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On November 23 2013 21:14 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 21:12 sharkie wrote:On November 23 2013 21:11 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:07 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules What are you talking about? scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage Supernova also has mules and he was using them. So I still don't get your point. That game was not decided because of the mules. On November 23 2013 21:06 Destructicon wrote:On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules What are you talking about? scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage That makes no sense because both have MULEs. no, you're not understanding what I'm saying In a pvp, when one of the protoss goes down 15-20 probes, he literally won't recover. if they have say 45 workers when this happens, one of the protoss is suddenly loosing 1/3-1/2 their income. In tvt, this is not the case, because mules provide such a gigantic mineral income, scv losses aren't the same kind of crippling that loosing drones or probes is. BOTH have mules, god damn it... Do you even read what you are saying lol. SuNo can call down mules too!!! The income difference stays the same! He says that losing SCVs makes you lose relatively less income, which is right, even if the player with more SCVs has of course more income as long as he has enough mineral patches at his disposal.
oh good someone understands what he's saying, was getting worried there
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On November 23 2013 21:14 Qwerty85 wrote:
I am hoping for a long mech vs mech TvT that transitions into sky terran for a final match.
5 minuts build order win/loss.
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On November 23 2013 21:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 21:12 Rescawen wrote:
nestea is god of zerg, elfi is god of protoss and flash is god of terran, but innovation is just a perfect human <3 Where did the justification for the elfi hype come from? I missed the reference.
Well he's elfi. That's about it.
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this is going to be sooooo sick
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On November 23 2013 21:16 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 21:14 Qwerty85 wrote:
I am hoping for a long mech vs mech TvT that transitions into sky terran for a final match. 5 minuts build order win/loss.
Proxy 2rax vs. 16cc.
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Supernova~!!~!!~!!~!!~!! I am rooting for u
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On November 23 2013 21:15 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 21:14 Undead1993 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:11 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:07 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules What are you talking about? scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage Supernova also has mules and he was using them. So I still don't get your point. That game was not decided because of the mules. On November 23 2013 21:06 Destructicon wrote:On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules What are you talking about? scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage That makes no sense because both have MULEs. no, you're not understanding what I'm saying In a pvp, when one of the protoss goes down 15-20 probes, he literally won't recover. if they have say 45 workers when this happens, one of the protoss is suddenly loosing 1/3-1/2 their income. In tvt, this is not the case, because mules provide such a gigantic mineral income, scv losses aren't the same kind of crippling that loosing drones or probes is. whine in a mirror matchup? livethreads such a entertainment source There is no "whine" in his post...
ok, "i love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules" is no whine no? a very reasonable statement indeed
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On November 23 2013 21:12 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 21:11 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:07 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules What are you talking about? scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage Supernova also has mules and he was using them. So I still don't get your point. That game was not decided because of the mules. On November 23 2013 21:06 Destructicon wrote:On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules What are you talking about? scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage That makes no sense because both have MULEs. no, you're not understanding what I'm saying In a pvp, when one of the protoss goes down 15-20 probes, he literally won't recover. if they have say 45 workers when this happens, one of the protoss is suddenly loosing 1/3-1/2 their income. In tvt, this is not the case, because mules provide such a gigantic mineral income, scv losses aren't the same kind of crippling that loosing drones or probes is. BOTH have mules, god damn it... Do you even read what you are saying lol. SuNo can call down mules too!!! The income difference stays the same!
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percentages
the income difference between 2 toss or 2 zerg with one of them being down in some number of workers is a big percentage difference. In tvt, that percentage difference is lower, because both income numbers are higher, because of mules
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On November 23 2013 21:16 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 21:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 23 2013 21:12 Rescawen wrote:
nestea is god of zerg, elfi is god of protoss and flash is god of terran, but innovation is just a perfect human <3 Where did the justification for the elfi hype come from? I missed the reference. Well he's elfi. That's about it.
ATC, EmpireEnce vs Liquid when Elfi defeated Taeja, TLO and then HerO only to lose to the eventually resurrected Taeja, but by then the damage was done.
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Innovation 2-rax inside Supernovas main!
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On November 23 2013 21:17 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 21:15 TheDwf wrote:On November 23 2013 21:14 Undead1993 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:11 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:07 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules What are you talking about? scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage Supernova also has mules and he was using them. So I still don't get your point. That game was not decided because of the mules. On November 23 2013 21:06 Destructicon wrote:On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules What are you talking about? scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage That makes no sense because both have MULEs. no, you're not understanding what I'm saying In a pvp, when one of the protoss goes down 15-20 probes, he literally won't recover. if they have say 45 workers when this happens, one of the protoss is suddenly loosing 1/3-1/2 their income. In tvt, this is not the case, because mules provide such a gigantic mineral income, scv losses aren't the same kind of crippling that loosing drones or probes is. whine in a mirror matchup? livethreads such a entertainment source There is no "whine" in his post... ok, "i love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules" is no whine no? a very reasonable statement indeed
I hadn't seen this post.
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So how will this super ace match be? a bo3?
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On November 23 2013 21:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 21:16 TheDwf wrote:On November 23 2013 21:14 Qwerty85 wrote:
I am hoping for a long mech vs mech TvT that transitions into sky terran for a final match. 5 minuts build order win/loss. Proxy 2rax vs. 16cc.
Nah make it more exciting, proxy thor rush vs 14cc into another cc @ 18 or w/e the timing works out to be
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On November 23 2013 21:16 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 21:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 23 2013 21:12 Rescawen wrote:
nestea is god of zerg, elfi is god of protoss and flash is god of terran, but innovation is just a perfect human <3 Where did the justification for the elfi hype come from? I missed the reference. Well he's elfi. That's about it.
He's certainly a god of PvP
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Please remember that Innovation only had 2 tanks vs 6.
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On November 23 2013 21:18 JustPassingBy wrote:
So how will this super ace match be? a bo3?
Bo1 unfortunately D:
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EPT
