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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 23 2013 12:21 GMT
#741
On November 23 2013 21:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On November 23 2013 21:12 Rescawen wrote:
nestea is god of zerg, elfi is god of protoss and flash is god of terran, but innovation is just a perfect human <3


Where did the justification for the elfi hype come from? I missed the reference.

Back in 2011 elfi had a miraculos PvP winrate and defeated players like MC and HuK (who was still Code-S at that time) with build and from position, that should never have worked (a recent example would be the probe-pull, when he was 20 supply down, that he used to defeat Stardust) , thus becoming the god of PvP in many minds. Recently a few of those happenings happened in other MU´s, too (for example Taeja manner-Muling him 3 times in the same game and ggoing on to lose both the game and the series) and Waxangel did his fair share in building the church of elfi.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
November 23 2013 12:21 GMT
#742
2 rax someone please!
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
November 23 2013 12:21 GMT
#743
On November 23 2013 21:20 VKCA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 21:17 Undead1993 wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:15 TheDwf wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:14 Undead1993 wrote:
whine in a mirror matchup? livethreads such a entertainment source

There is no "whine" in his post...

ok, "i love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules" is no whine no? a very reasonable statement indeed

lol I'm totally blance whining, I'm still upset about that tvz that was lost even though the zerg was ahead the entire game then endgame mules + moving base won him the game (although hilariously, I can't remember either of the players for the life of me


You mean Jjakji vs Symbol from HSC 8 3rd place match on Frost?
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Scholes
Profile Joined December 2012
Venezuela312 Posts
November 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#744
This elfi talk is so funny xD
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
November 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#745
Super hyped!!
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 12:22:17
November 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#746
On November 23 2013 21:17 VKCA wrote:
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On November 23 2013 21:12 sharkie wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:11 VKCA wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:07 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules


What are you talking about?

scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage


Supernova also has mules and he was using them. So I still don't get your point.
That game was not decided because of the mules.



On November 23 2013 21:06 Destructicon wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules


What are you talking about?

scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage


That makes no sense because both have MULEs.


no, you're not understanding what I'm saying

In a pvp, when one of the protoss goes down 15-20 probes, he literally won't recover. if they have say 45 workers when this happens, one of the protoss is suddenly loosing 1/3-1/2 their income. In tvt, this is not the case, because mules provide such a gigantic mineral income, scv losses aren't the same kind of crippling that loosing drones or probes is.


BOTH have mules, god damn it...

Do you even read what you are saying lol. SuNo can call down mules too!!! The income difference stays the same!


brother

percentages

the income difference between 2 toss or 2 zerg with one of them being down in some number of workers is a big percentage difference. In tvt, that percentage difference is lower, because both income numbers are higher, because of mules


Both Protoss & Zerg make workers faster though, so by the time Terran has 30 SCV's Z/P could easily have 40-45, so losing 10 workers has about the same effect on all. Zerg especially, who can instantly recreate any lost drones with enough larva and not having to deal with an incoming threat. This comparison only works with equal amounts of probes/drones vs. SCV's, ignoring that it takes longer to make that many SCV's.

But really, let's just enjoy this final game for what it is and pray for no 11/11!
Cute
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#747
Mby last time we will see Whirlwind. (in GSL)
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
November 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#748
On November 23 2013 21:21 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 21:20 VKCA wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:17 Undead1993 wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:15 TheDwf wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:14 Undead1993 wrote:
whine in a mirror matchup? livethreads such a entertainment source

There is no "whine" in his post...

ok, "i love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules" is no whine no? a very reasonable statement indeed

lol I'm totally blance whining, I'm still upset about that tvz that was lost even though the zerg was ahead the entire game then endgame mules + moving base won the terran the game (although hilariously, I can't remember either of the players for the life of me)

Drg and innovation?


Jjakji vs. some zerg?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
November 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#749
Dose boos
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
November 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#750
On November 23 2013 21:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 21:12 Rescawen wrote:
nestea is god of zerg, elfi is god of protoss and flash is god of terran, but innovation is just a perfect human <3


Where did the justification for the elfi hype come from? I missed the reference.

#elfiisgod

elfi was/in known for beating players that he should not win(like haters say) (for example he have positive winrecord agaisnt Taeja). Also he was the only foreign player that could win MC in his prime time. Known for extremely good PvP and winning agaisnt topkorean players.

elfi likes cats....everybody knows that.
Last two Dreamhack he got into ro8, in buckarest as the last foreign player.
He have weird accent you know? rrrrealy weird? :D

and much more...

much more..
more...
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
November 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#751
On November 23 2013 21:22 Weavel wrote:
Mby last time we will see Whirlwind. (in GSL)

What ?
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
November 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#752
Innovation CC first.

Should be obvious for SuperNova.
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 23 2013 12:23 GMT
#753
Would have laughed so hard had SuperNova opened 11/11 middle.
VKCA
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 12:23:30
November 23 2013 12:23 GMT
#754
On November 23 2013 21:15 Scarecrow wrote:
He's just saying scv losses have less of an impact compared to probes/drones in mirrors because you lose a smaller % of your total income. You both still have mules but you're relatively better off than players in the other mirrors.

On November 23 2013 21:14 TheDwf wrote:
He says that losing SCVs makes you lose relatively less income, which is right, even if the player with more SCVs has of course more income as long as he has enough mineral patches at his disposal.


thank you both for not being massive idiots
enjoy the gold
or tl+ or whatever it's called
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 23 2013 12:23 GMT
#755
Goooooo Inno! For AxA! For all robots! And for me!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
November 23 2013 12:23 GMT
#756
On November 23 2013 21:21 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 21:16 Goibon wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:14 TheDwf wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:12 sharkie wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:11 VKCA wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:07 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules


What are you talking about?

scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage


Supernova also has mules and he was using them. So I still don't get your point.
That game was not decided because of the mules.



On November 23 2013 21:06 Destructicon wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:05 VKCA wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:03 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 23 2013 21:01 VKCA wrote:
I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules


What are you talking about?

scvs give shit all income, basically all the money you're getting is from mules. So when one person stops scv production and allins, they basically have the same income as their opponent during the whole allin, despite a massive scv disadvantage


That makes no sense because both have MULEs.


no, you're not understanding what I'm saying

In a pvp, when one of the protoss goes down 15-20 probes, he literally won't recover. if they have say 45 workers when this happens, one of the protoss is suddenly loosing 1/3-1/2 their income. In tvt, this is not the case, because mules provide such a gigantic mineral income, scv losses aren't the same kind of crippling that loosing drones or probes is.


BOTH have mules, god damn it...

Do you even read what you are saying lol. SuNo can call down mules too!!! The income difference stays the same!

He says that losing SCVs makes you lose relatively less income, which is right, even if the player with more SCVs has of course more income as long as he has enough mineral patches at his disposal.

oh good someone understands what he's saying, was getting worried there


He started with I really, really fucking love it when terrans loose tvts because the enemy has mules.. Saying that that game was decided because of the MULEs is just wrong.

yah i didn't realise it was the same guy who made the initial (strange) post lol

usually what happens is one guy posts something stupid, then someone calls them on it, then another guy takes the whine out of context and we go on a weird tangent which is correct on its own merits but unrelated to the initial whine. i got lost in quote train
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 23 2013 12:23 GMT
#757
On November 23 2013 21:22 Weavel wrote:
Mby last time we will see Whirlwind. (in GSL)


Hotsix cup! (if that counts as gsl)
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
November 23 2013 12:24 GMT
#758
On November 23 2013 21:21 Undead1993 wrote:
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On November 23 2013 21:20 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
kk Whirlwind another nice stage for epic final game.

ryung vs flash oh mah gawd

The VOD for that game is free for everyone now. :D
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 23 2013 12:25 GMT
#759
Innovation scouted first, gg
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
November 23 2013 12:25 GMT
#760
A wm drop in TvT?
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