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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
November 23 2013 20:32 GMT
#781
On November 24 2013 05:31 keglu wrote:
Bomber is my favourite player and it seems to me that he does not believe in himself in this matchup. Playing very all inish without long term plan. Its sad because i considered him one of best TvPer in WoL(maybe best)


I think only terran that believes in his late game TvP is Taeja at the moment.
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
November 23 2013 20:33 GMT
#782
On November 24 2013 05:28 PanzerElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:26 Bommes wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:26 MosART wrote:
why so dumb, Bomber? no bunkers on the main? just poor game plan for blink all-in


It wasn't an all-in, he built probes during the majority of this attack.

Uhm this stuff has no follow up, if it gets defended you lose due to no tech.

it should theoretically be an allin, but protoss can easily just win anyway if it fails
HardCorey
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States709 Posts
November 23 2013 20:33 GMT
#783
What are Scarlett's chances here? I don't see it happening
Don't Worry, Be Happy.
PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
November 23 2013 20:33 GMT
#784
On November 24 2013 05:31 keglu wrote:
Bomber is my favourite player and it seems to me that he does not believe in himself in this matchup. Playing very all inish without long term plan. Its sad because i considered him one of best TvPer in WoL(maybe best)

Almost all terrans don't believe in this match up, unless your name is Teaja/Maru.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 23 2013 20:33 GMT
#785
On November 24 2013 05:32 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:31 keglu wrote:
Bomber is my favourite player and it seems to me that he does not believe in himself in this matchup. Playing very all inish without long term plan. Its sad because i considered him one of best TvPer in WoL(maybe best)


I think only terran that believes in his late game TvP is Taeja at the moment.


Maru too. And Happy, though ofc on foreign level.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3378 Posts
November 23 2013 20:33 GMT
#786
On November 24 2013 05:32 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:31 keglu wrote:
Bomber is my favourite player and it seems to me that he does not believe in himself in this matchup. Playing very all inish without long term plan. Its sad because i considered him one of best TvPer in WoL(maybe best)


I think only terran that believes in his late game TvP is Taeja at the moment.

Also Polt.
Unless something has changed.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
November 23 2013 20:33 GMT
#787
On November 24 2013 05:33 HardCorey wrote:
What are Scarlett's chances here? I don't see it happening


40/40 at best.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 23 2013 20:34 GMT
#788
On November 24 2013 05:30 Nimix wrote:
Why can't I watch directly on twitch or hide the chat on the redbull page, these people are killing me x_x


Maybe I'm cynical or lost my passion but we also need some cleanup imo:

On November 24 2013 05:30 kakaocho wrote:
Day9 is pretty clueless with his casting .. He had no idea what is going on.. Always calling battles wrong, I wonder when was the last time he played sc2

Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 23 2013 20:34 GMT
#789
On November 24 2013 05:31 keglu wrote:
Bomber is my favourite player and it seems to me that he does not believe in himself in this matchup. Playing very all inish without long term plan. Its sad because i considered him one of best TvPer in WoL(maybe best)


Yeah I agree. But atm there are very few players who feel comfortable playing long games against P and going in to the late game.
PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
November 23 2013 20:34 GMT
#790
On November 24 2013 05:33 mechengineer123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:28 PanzerElite wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:26 Bommes wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:26 MosART wrote:
why so dumb, Bomber? no bunkers on the main? just poor game plan for blink all-in


It wasn't an all-in, he built probes during the majority of this attack.

Uhm this stuff has no follow up, if it gets defended you lose due to no tech.

it should theoretically be an allin, but protoss can easily just win anyway if it fails

O I forgot, this isn't wol anymore... mcore canon np indeed nowadays.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45194 Posts
November 23 2013 20:34 GMT
#791
On November 24 2013 05:33 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:33 HardCorey wrote:
What are Scarlett's chances here? I don't see it happening


40/40 at best.


Hahahahahahahaha
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
November 23 2013 20:35 GMT
#792
On November 24 2013 05:33 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:32 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:31 keglu wrote:
Bomber is my favourite player and it seems to me that he does not believe in himself in this matchup. Playing very all inish without long term plan. Its sad because i considered him one of best TvPer in WoL(maybe best)


I think only terran that believes in his late game TvP is Taeja at the moment.


Maru too. And Happy, though ofc on foreign level.


Hmm. Maru is always stuck in the mid game phase. Either he destroys with drops or protoss defends and he dies to protoss deathball.
Bizeheryer
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany307 Posts
November 23 2013 20:35 GMT
#793
On November 24 2013 05:32 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:31 keglu wrote:
Bomber is my favourite player and it seems to me that he does not believe in himself in this matchup. Playing very all inish without long term plan. Its sad because i considered him one of best TvPer in WoL(maybe best)


I think only terran that believes in his late game TvP is Taeja at the moment.


Happy?
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 20:38:24
November 23 2013 20:35 GMT
#794
On November 24 2013 05:29 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:28 PanzerElite wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:26 Bommes wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:26 MosART wrote:
why so dumb, Bomber? no bunkers on the main? just poor game plan for blink all-in


It wasn't an all-in, he built probes during the majority of this attack.

Uhm this stuff has no follow up, if it gets defended you lose due to no tech.

no you are wrong. it is supposed to do damage but it is not supposed to kill your terran opponent, a good example of this is alicia vs center during gstl yesterday i think.


People act like there is a binary choice of All in or Macro. The truth is that there is a continuum ranging from something totally all in like a one gas 4 gate, to something mostly all in like 1 base blink, to an in-between build like 2 base blink that isn't all in but must do damage . . . etc.etc. . . . all the way to something totally macro like fast 3 base on the other end of the spectrum.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 23 2013 20:35 GMT
#795
On November 24 2013 05:32 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:31 keglu wrote:
Bomber is my favourite player and it seems to me that he does not believe in himself in this matchup. Playing very all inish without long term plan. Its sad because i considered him one of best TvPer in WoL(maybe best)


I think only terran that believes in his late game TvP is Taeja at the moment.


I believe in my TvP...granted I don't play against Code S players either though...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45194 Posts
November 23 2013 20:35 GMT
#796
Bomber's the Cheese Terran?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
November 23 2013 20:36 GMT
#797
On November 24 2013 05:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Bomber's the Cheese Terran?

In Parting's head
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 23 2013 20:37 GMT
#798
On November 24 2013 05:35 Salient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:29 Undead1993 wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:28 PanzerElite wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:26 Bommes wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:26 MosART wrote:
why so dumb, Bomber? no bunkers on the main? just poor game plan for blink all-in


It wasn't an all-in, he built probes during the majority of this attack.

Uhm this stuff has no follow up, if it gets defended you lose due to no tech.

no you are wrong. it is supposed to do damage but it is not supposed to kill your terran opponent, a good example of this is alicia vs center during gstl yesterday i think.


People act like there is a binary choice of All in or Macro. The truth is that there is a continuum ranging from something totally all in like a one gas 4 gate, to something mostly all in like 1 base blink, to in a between build like 2 base blink that isn't all in but must do damage . . . etc.etc. . . . all the way to something totally macro like fast 3 base on the other end of the spectrum.

and the next thing you do is break up the holy trinity of greed vs cheese vs tech. don't you have any moral standards?
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
November 23 2013 20:38 GMT
#799
Yeah I think Taeja is really the only player confident in his late game TvP, every other player tries to end the game somehow at some point before the late game, either trough a weird pressure or an all-in like an SCV pull.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 23 2013 20:38 GMT
#800
On November 24 2013 05:35 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:33 Big J wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:32 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:31 keglu wrote:
Bomber is my favourite player and it seems to me that he does not believe in himself in this matchup. Playing very all inish without long term plan. Its sad because i considered him one of best TvPer in WoL(maybe best)


I think only terran that believes in his late game TvP is Taeja at the moment.


Maru too. And Happy, though ofc on foreign level.


Hmm. Maru is always stuck in the mid game phase. Either he destroys with drops or protoss defends and he dies to protoss deathball.


Not really. His lategame simply just isn't higher tech with ghosts/hellbats/vikings, but more production/eco so he can attack from more angles because he reproduces more than other Terrans.
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