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Serinox

Germany5224 Posts

November 16 2013 19:59 GMT

#1801

Yes HeroMarine!!

JustPassingBy

10776 Posts

November 16 2013 19:59 GMT

#1802

GG HEROMARINE!!!! :D

Germany4057 Posts

November 16 2013 19:59 GMT

#1803

leenock vs heromarine 0-1 O_o

SpikeStarcraft

Germany2095 Posts

November 16 2013 19:59 GMT

#1804

YES!! 1:0 Imbamarine against Leenock!!

Psychonian

United States2322 Posts

November 16 2013 19:59 GMT

#1805

HeRoMaRinE 1 - 0 (Z)

Leenock

Swiipii

2195 Posts

November 16 2013 19:59 GMT

#1806

They should have nerf the mines earlier. :p

NovaMB

Germany9534 Posts

November 16 2013 19:59 GMT

#1807

Gabriel!!!!!

Niko_Thien

Germany2671 Posts

November 16 2013 19:59 GMT

#1808

Heromarines TvZ is pretty good :D Gogo Hero!

goody153

44237 Posts

November 16 2013 19:59 GMT

#1809

Hero Marine 1-0 leenock guys

Killmouse

Austria5700 Posts

November 16 2013 20:00 GMT

#1810

so heromarine is sc2 version of mouzkoll?

DrPandaPhD

5188 Posts

November 16 2013 20:00 GMT

#1811

Akilon such a good map guys

FrostedMiniWheats

United States30730 Posts

November 16 2013 20:00 GMT

#1812

I really want Leenock vs Hyun -_-

get it together Leenock

Weavel

Finland9221 Posts

November 16 2013 20:00 GMT

#1813

On November 17 2013 05:00 Killmouse wrote:
so heromarine is sc2 version of mouzkoll?

Nope he is much much better.

Paljas

Germany6926 Posts

November 16 2013 20:00 GMT

#1814

On November 17 2013 04:58 stuchiu wrote:
Heromarine, the new Terran EU hope.

we dont a new, the Happy Hype Train is still going strong

Strela

Netherlands1896 Posts

November 16 2013 20:01 GMT

#1815

lol some people saying Heromarine is awesome while others say hes playing badly ;D

goody153

44237 Posts

November 16 2013 20:01 GMT

#1816

On November 17 2013 05:00 Weavel wrote:

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Nope he is much much better.

yeah i catched every single game he played .. and he had amazing marine control lol

Musicus

Germany23576 Posts

November 16 2013 20:01 GMT

#1817

you can nerf the mines, but you can not nerf the HeroMarine!

bourne117

United States837 Posts

November 16 2013 20:02 GMT

#1818

On November 17 2013 04:58 iSunrise wrote:

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On November 17 2013 04:49 bourne117 wrote:

On November 17 2013 04:43 iSunrise wrote:

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On November 17 2013 04:36 iSunrise wrote:

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On November 17 2013 04:31 iSunrise wrote:

On November 17 2013 04:23 bourne117 wrote:

On November 17 2013 04:17 iSunrise wrote:

On November 17 2013 04:14 Nebuchad wrote:
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...You don't play in a vacuum, you play on maps. Map features are part of what races can do (cf thor drops on Lost Temple). When you analyze bel'shir vestige, one part of the analysis is "terran can float his buildings to certain parts of the map where you can't hit them with anything but air units". Having a problem with that is no different to having a problem with a terran ability: you still need to provide an explanation as to why it's unfair, otherwise it's just 'I don't like it' (which is what you're doing right now).

I have provided an explanation. ToD had units to kill Happy, but Happy used the map to hide the units. Even if ToD had an army of 200 left (but no air units), he could not have killed Happy.

So you consider that fair?

The only issue is when ToD doesn't defend his bases. Why should happy be forced to straight up defend if ToD isn't either?

Well, if he did that, the outcome would have been pretty clear.

Yeah a draw. Happy can't defend but ToD doesn't either. Why is that unfair? And that is exactly what happened. The only reason this happened is because he lost all his Nexi. If he keeps just one he wins the game every time.

Like I said, if the maps allow you to hide like that, a 200 man army would not win against ONE viking and one building floating up in the air. I consider that hilarious. But that´s just how some maps are designed, to provide advantages for certain races, doesn´t mean I have to agree with it. Still unfair to me.

You are ignoring the most important part though. The Terran HAS to kill all the nexi. That is my point. What you are saying is that protoss should be able to sac everything and terran can't do anything about it even though he killed all the nexi. You are saying Protoss shouldn't have to defend anything but terran has to. That is what's unfair. It has nothing to do with the map.

Well, ToD tried to kill him, he couldn´t though. Happy didn´t try that, since he played for a draw by using the map corners to his advantage. I understand what you´re saying, but that´s not how it actually played out.

Ok did or didn't happy kill all Tods nexi? Why on earth is it fair that Tod doesn't have to defend his stuff but Happy has to? You are completely ignoring this. If he has a SINGLE nexus left Happy can't do that EVER it will lose every single time. Tod played that out poorly because he just let his nexus all die.

Happy killed ToD´s nexi, because he wanted to play towards a draw, since he realized he cannot win anymore. That was all part of the plan. And ToD tried to defend, he was just too late to return, because he forgot his core. I just rewatched it again on Twitch.

See:
http://www.twitch.tv/taketv/b/480250877 (about 03:30:00)

So happy recognized that if he killed the nexus he could draw and went for that. ToD made a MISTAKE and didn't defend. He was then PUNISHED for his MISTAKE. How is being punished for your mistake not fair?