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Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
November 14 2013 20:06 GMT
#1361
On November 15 2013 05:02 Mozdk wrote:
Why is Zenio still getting paid if he is as bad as everyone is implying? (Not a troll question)

I'm more interested in why he got invited..
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
November 14 2013 20:06 GMT
#1362
On November 15 2013 05:03 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 05:02 Mozdk wrote:
Why is Zenio still getting paid if he is as bad as everyone is implying? (Not a troll question)

We don't even know how much he gets paid.

Stupid question.


He has to live off it... So yes we do. Stupid answer
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 14 2013 20:06 GMT
#1363
Stardust so sad Scarlett won.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 14 2013 20:06 GMT
#1364
Well that was a beatdown. Nightend just had nothing for her in any of the four games they played
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 14 2013 20:06 GMT
#1365
On November 15 2013 05:06 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 05:02 Mozdk wrote:
Why is Zenio still getting paid if he is as bad as everyone is implying? (Not a troll question)

I'm more interested in why he got invited..


okay..
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rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 20:08:20
November 14 2013 20:07 GMT
#1366
On November 15 2013 05:02 Mozdk wrote:
Why is Zenio still getting paid if he is as bad as everyone is implying? (Not a troll question)

1) He is not as bad as everyone is implying.
2) On a professional team you are (hopefully) treated as a professional, even in bad times. You don't stop paying a professional, you re-negotiate the contract when it comes time to renew it or release the player if you don't want him to represent your team.
3) Team liquid has a history of being loyal to their players, long past what most other teams tend to.
4) We don't know how much Zenio get's paid. It is possible he is just given a spot in the team house, gaming equipment and a small salary for food, and anything beyond that is supposed to come from tournament winnings (pure speculation on my part).
Bizeheryer
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany307 Posts
November 14 2013 20:07 GMT
#1367
StarDust sure is in love with the Zerg quenn.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
November 14 2013 20:07 GMT
#1368
On November 15 2013 05:06 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 05:06 Jono7272 wrote:
On November 15 2013 05:02 Mozdk wrote:
Why is Zenio still getting paid if he is as bad as everyone is implying? (Not a troll question)

I'm more interested in why he got invited..


okay..

yes..
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 14 2013 20:07 GMT
#1369
On November 15 2013 05:06 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 05:02 Mozdk wrote:
Why is Zenio still getting paid if he is as bad as everyone is implying? (Not a troll question)

I'm more interested in why he got invited..

He may not have been their first invite, but a Liquid player is probably more likely able to attend an international event on short notice than a lot of other players.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 14 2013 20:07 GMT
#1370
HerO vs Targa on B stream. Targa is one of the few people I can never forgive
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
aznheat80
Profile Joined August 2010
United States186 Posts
November 14 2013 20:08 GMT
#1371
On November 15 2013 05:06 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 05:02 Mozdk wrote:
Why is Zenio still getting paid if he is as bad as everyone is implying? (Not a troll question)

I'm more interested in why he got invited..


He lost one series to one of the best terran players out there.... Zenio is still gonna crush mana and socke
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 20:08:47
November 14 2013 20:08 GMT
#1372
Shame people rant on zenio when hasn't done anything wrong, players who show up rarely in tournaments are so exposed. Players who are in several tournaments can lose many but by the aspect of size they have more chances to place high and not be considered bad - not to mention he lost one series; that doesn't imply anything.

Shame, especially as it is HSC
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 14 2013 20:08 GMT
#1373
On November 15 2013 05:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
HerO vs Targa on B stream. Targa is one of the few people I can never forgive

Because he's the European iNcontroL?
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
November 14 2013 20:08 GMT
#1374
On November 15 2013 05:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
HerO vs Targa on B stream. Targa is one of the few people I can never forgive


What he do?
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 20:09:19
November 14 2013 20:09 GMT
#1375
On November 15 2013 05:08 aznheat80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 05:06 Jono7272 wrote:
On November 15 2013 05:02 Mozdk wrote:
Why is Zenio still getting paid if he is as bad as everyone is implying? (Not a troll question)

I'm more interested in why he got invited..


He lost one series to one of the best terran players out there.... Zenio is still gonna crush mana and socke


I dunno (Kev) man, I'd bet on the Europeans honestly
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 14 2013 20:09 GMT
#1376
On November 15 2013 05:08 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 05:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
HerO vs Targa on B stream. Targa is one of the few people I can never forgive


What he do?

Slowlings all-in against HerO on CK.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 14 2013 20:09 GMT
#1377
On November 15 2013 05:08 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 05:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:
HerO vs Targa on B stream. Targa is one of the few people I can never forgive


What he do?


Knocked HerO out with slow lings. :D
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 14 2013 20:09 GMT
#1378
On November 15 2013 05:06 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 05:03 Keeemy wrote:
On November 15 2013 05:02 Mozdk wrote:
Why is Zenio still getting paid if he is as bad as everyone is implying? (Not a troll question)

We don't even know how much he gets paid.

Stupid question.


He has to live off it... So yes we do. Stupid answer


You don't just stop paying someone because they're not performing. You can re-negotiate the contract once it runs out, but Liquid isn't a team that would stop paying someone out of the blue because they're not performing up to standard.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 14 2013 20:09 GMT
#1379
On November 15 2013 05:06 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 05:03 Keeemy wrote:
On November 15 2013 05:02 Mozdk wrote:
Why is Zenio still getting paid if he is as bad as everyone is implying? (Not a troll question)

We don't even know how much he gets paid.

Stupid question.


He has to live off it... So yes we do. Stupid answer


How do you know that? For all you and me know he could be crashing at his parents' or a friend's home atm.

We don't really know how good Zenio is in practice either. Some people just chronically underperform in tournaments...
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
November 14 2013 20:09 GMT
#1380
ClouD... please come back :'( we miss you ♥
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
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