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[ATC] mouz vs Axiom, Week 8, Season 2

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SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 18:18:05
November 10 2013 11:45 GMT
#1
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Sunday, Nov 10 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Crunch time!

mouz can qualify for the playoffs with a win, while Axiom themselves can put one foot into the playoffs if they are victorious. But only one team can win and the loser will be at the mercy of Team Liquid.

Who will take fate into their own hands?


(Z)hOpe <Whirlwind> (T)Ryung
<Polar Night>
<Yeonsu>
<Bel'shir Vestige>
<Newkirk Precinct TE>
<Frost>
<Derelict Watcher>
<Star Station>
<Akilon Wastes>







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+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(Z)hOpe <Whirlwind> (T)Ryung

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(Z)hOpe <Polar Night> (P)Alicia

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(T)LucifroN <Yeonsu> (P)Alicia

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
(P)MaNa <Bel'shir Vestige> (P)Alicia

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
(Z)VortiX <Newkirk Precinct TE> (P)Alicia

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
(Z)VortiX <Frost> (P)CranK

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
(Z)VortiX* <Derelict Watcher> (P)CranK

+ Show Spoiler [Game 8] +
(Z)VortiX* <Star Station> (Z)Impact

+ Show Spoiler [Game 9] +
<Akilon Wastes>


+ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +

(Z)hOpe <Whirlwind> (T)Ryung
(Z)hOpe <Polar Night> (P)Alicia
(T)LucifroN <Yeonsu> (P)Alicia
(P)MaNa <Bel'shir Vestige> (P)Alicia
(Z)VortiX <Newkirk Precinct TE> (P)Alicia
(Z)VortiX <Frost> (P)CranK
(Z)VortiX* <Derelict Watcher> (P)CranK
(Z)VortiX* <Star Station> (Z)Impact
<Akilon Wastes>

3-5
finished


Alicia set the course early and needed only little help from CranK and Impact to finish VortiX off!

Like in the last season, the decisive matches for the playoffs are between Axiom, Team Liquid and Quantic.





       * = ace. Last player on team can be chosen from the entire lineup, even if the player was eliminated before.
       ♠ = joker. Player that is not part of the team's regular roster. Only one joker can be chosen per season who is eligible to play the entire duration of the season.
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 16:57:58
November 10 2013 11:45 GMT
#2
Poll: Head: Who do you think will win?

mousesports (9)
 
56%

Axiom eSports (7)
 
44%

16 total votes

Your vote: Head: Who do you think will win?

(Vote): mousesports
(Vote): Axiom eSports



Poll: Heart: Who do you want to win?

mousesports (15)
 
79%

Axiom eSports (4)
 
21%

19 total votes

Your vote: Heart: Who do you want to win?

(Vote): mousesports
(Vote): Axiom eSports



mouz' Situation
Win against Axiom: Qualified for playoffs
Loss: Must hope for TL to win against Quantic and hope that TL do not overtake them
-or- TL beat Axiom very highly such that Axiom has a worse mapscore than mouz

Axiom's Situation
Win against mouz and TL: Qualified for playoffs
Only win against mouz: Qualified, as long as they maintain a better mapscore than mouz and TL
Only win against TL: Qualified if TL win against Quantic and TL don't beat Axiom in mapscore
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 10 2013 11:48 GMT
#3
Playoff excitment rising now it all comes down to the wire !
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
November 10 2013 12:01 GMT
#4
very important CW!
hopefully mouz can close it out, would love to see them at the playoffs.
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
November 10 2013 12:06 GMT
#5
I hope mouz will crush Axiom.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 12:14 GMT
#6
Go mouz!
Get to the playoffs!
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
November 10 2013 13:49 GMT
#7
Gotta side with mouz on this one.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 10 2013 14:03 GMT
#8
Go mouz!!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 10 2013 14:22 GMT
#9
Go mouz, go Vortix!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
November 10 2013 15:02 GMT
#10
HeroMarine all-kill please.

or do we need more mana?
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12478 Posts
November 10 2013 15:06 GMT
#11
Axiom should win no problem
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 15:10 GMT
#12
(Z)hOpe vs. (T)Ryung first
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 15:14 GMT
#13
Ryung for the all-kill. GOGOGO Axiom!

Dilema: what stream to watch - Basetrade or MLG?
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 10 2013 15:17 GMT
#14
on another note what is axeltoss doing atm, i mean does he work on other games for mlg or??
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 10 2013 15:20 GMT
#15
Really nice to hear Wake's thoughts. Go mouz, prove your strength!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 15:34:47
November 10 2013 15:34 GMT
#16
Bloody hell what was that from Ryung?
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 10 2013 15:34 GMT
#17
Impressive game by hope. Mouz fighting!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 15:35 GMT
#18
Yes!!

Great game from hOpe.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 10 2013 15:36 GMT
#19
swarmed
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 15:37 GMT
#20
(P)Alicia next
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 15:47 GMT
#21
Yes get in Another few more please Alicia. GG
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12478 Posts
November 10 2013 15:47 GMT
#22
nice micro from alicia, constant repositioning for the mothership core and warp prism and target fire with immortals with zealots zoning
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 10 2013 15:47 GMT
#23
sOs, what have you done?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 15:48 GMT
#24
On November 11 2013 00:47 Musicus wrote:
sOs, what have you done?

Get ready to see that build in every PvZ on Polar Night for this month, until someone stops it.

(I think Banelings instead of Roaches)
scoww
Profile Joined June 2012
595 Posts
November 10 2013 15:48 GMT
#25
new soultrain era, gg zergs :/
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 15:50 GMT
#26
I think Mouz sending out LucifroN against Alicia is a dubious decion, as PvT is Alicia's best match-up. But we'll see how it goes I guess.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 10 2013 15:51 GMT
#27
On November 11 2013 00:47 Musicus wrote:
sOs, what have you done?


Managed to make an Alicia PvZ without a Void Ray. The influence of a champion (or I'm just stuck in the past).
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 10 2013 15:54 GMT
#28
On November 11 2013 00:48 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 00:47 Musicus wrote:
sOs, what have you done?

Get ready to see that build in every PvZ on Polar Night for this month, until someone stops it.

(I think Banelings instead of Roaches)


yeah banes, or maybe fast lair hydras?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 15:58 GMT
#29
Yay Protoss :/
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 10 2013 15:59 GMT
#30
dat defence .... sigh
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 15:59 GMT
#31
On November 11 2013 00:50 Crot4le wrote:
I think Mouz sending out LucifroN against Alicia is a dubious decion, as PvT is Alicia's best match-up. But we'll see how it goes I guess.


Yeah, it went pretty badly for LucifroN. GG
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 10 2013 15:59 GMT
#32
Proooootooooooos! gg
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 16:05 GMT
#33
MaNa is a really good player, hope Alicia's PvP is feeling good today.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 10 2013 16:05 GMT
#34
Alicia all kill!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 10 2013 16:07 GMT
#35
Cant wait to find which teams other than WW are gonna get stomped by Acer in the playoffs
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 16:14 GMT
#36
Protoss got Protossed lol

Can someone please beat Alicia already
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 16:15 GMT
#37
ALICIA!!!!!! Second three-kill in a row.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 16:17:10
November 10 2013 16:16 GMT
#38
On November 11 2013 01:14 NovaMB wrote:
Protoss got Protossed lol

Can someone please beat Alicia already


VortiX probably could. Can't see HeRoMaRiNe winning a TvP against Alicia. They could try their luck with another PvP with HasuObs I suppose.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 10 2013 16:18 GMT
#39
Does ''protossed'' mean outplayed?
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 16:19 GMT
#40
(Z)VortiX vs. (P)Alicia next
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 16:33:16
November 10 2013 16:21 GMT
#41
On November 11 2013 01:19 NovaMB wrote:
(Z)VortiX vs. (P)Alicia next


Sending out the final boss already?! Probably a smart idea actually as zerg is Alicia's weakest match-up. VortiX has got to be favourite for this.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 16:24:07
November 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#42
On November 11 2013 01:21 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 01:19 NovaMB wrote:
(Z)VortiX vs. (P)Alicia next


Sending out the final boss already?! Probably a smart idea actually as zerg is Alicia's weakest match-up. VortiX has good to be favourite for this.


Well they can always send him out a second time, final boss is always difficult to determine in ATC
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
November 10 2013 16:25 GMT
#43
On November 11 2013 01:18 Weavel wrote:
Does ''protossed'' mean outplayed?

The opposite. It means you lost even though you didn't deserve to.
I love hellbats
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
November 10 2013 16:27 GMT
#44
On November 11 2013 01:25 GreenMash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 01:18 Weavel wrote:
Does ''protossed'' mean outplayed?

The opposite. It means you lost even though you didn't deserve to.

Oh well, the winner deserves the win, by whatever means he plays (unless cheating ofc). Still, I turned off. Can't watch mouz getting cheesed down 5 times in a row
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 16:28 GMT
#45
On November 11 2013 01:25 GreenMash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 01:18 Weavel wrote:
Does ''protossed'' mean outplayed?

The opposite. It means you lost even though you didn't deserve to.


I always thought its getting a successful attack and then dieing to the inevitable Protoss counter attack
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 10 2013 16:31 GMT
#46
yeah vortix will win this, he is so fucking strong
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#47
Well played VortiX, lovely positioning there. I think Axiom should send out CranK next.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 16:32 GMT
#48
Come on VortiX, 3 more!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 16:36:37
November 10 2013 16:36 GMT
#49
On November 11 2013 01:28 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 01:25 GreenMash wrote:
On November 11 2013 01:18 Weavel wrote:
Does ''protossed'' mean outplayed?

The opposite. It means you lost even though you didn't deserve to.


I always thought its getting a successful attack and then dieing to the inevitable Protoss counter attack


One bad fight TvP and lights out, as coined by qxc.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 16:36 GMT
#50
GOGOGO CranK!
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 16:42 GMT
#51
I always get a feeling that when a Protoss opens with a Robo in PvZ he's going to all-in. Dunno why, just get that feeling
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 10 2013 16:42 GMT
#52
hehehhe crank with the 7 gates
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 10 2013 16:45 GMT
#53
Crank got this
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 16:47 GMT
#54
YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSS Coach CranK <3

Match point, come on Axiom close it out.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
November 10 2013 16:47 GMT
#55
Are there any vods of zergs holding these gateway expand into robo allins that alicia did on polarnight/crank did on frost?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 10 2013 16:47 GMT
#56
CRANK'D
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 10 2013 16:51 GMT
#57
HSC groups at the end of the clan war 8)
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 10 2013 16:54 GMT
#58
Crank end this I want hsc groups!!!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 16:55 GMT
#59
Derelict Watcher, I'm smelling another all-in because the map is huge.

VortiX was the obvious choice with Derelict and Star Station next, and hes the best player on mouz right now.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 10 2013 17:00 GMT
#60
Please allin and win Crank.
Not like anyone except Acer is gonna win atc anyway :D
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 17:05 GMT
#61
Damn Well played VortiX. Impact would be the best bet now imho.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
November 10 2013 17:05 GMT
#62
Would be nice if Vortix could take 2 maps more!
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 17:05 GMT
#63
Come on VortiX , 2 more!
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 17:08 GMT
#64
Yep, it's Impact. :D
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
November 10 2013 17:09 GMT
#65
Vortix played really well, had Crank's number that whole game. Knew the timing for lings to take out the 3rd, and hydra push to finish it.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 17:15 GMT
#66
Please Impact, see it out.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
November 10 2013 17:16 GMT
#67
Come on Impact!
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 10 2013 17:19 GMT
#68
VortiX is playing that sooooo well !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 17:21 GMT
#69
That was a bad attack from VortiX
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
November 10 2013 17:24 GMT
#70
This is overrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Good job Impact
Hello
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 10 2013 17:24 GMT
#71
Noooooo
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 10 2013 17:24 GMT
#72
WOO! Great work Axiom!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1159 Posts
November 10 2013 17:24 GMT
#73
wooooooooooooo impact :D
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 10 2013 17:25 GMT
#74
Fuck :/
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 17:25 GMT
#75
Impact too good. Get the fuck in!!!
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
November 10 2013 17:25 GMT
#76
Lovely job
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 10 2013 17:29 GMT
#77
Damn it, not looking good for Mouz's playoff chances... there goes all the foreign hope.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 10 2013 17:30 GMT
#78
So what's the playoff picture looking like now?

Mouz: 5-4, +3 (done with their matches)
Quantic: 5-3, -4
Axiom: 5-3, +8
Liquid: 3-3, +0

If I'm understanding correctly, at the very worst (where Axiom gets all killed), Axiom would be 5-4, +3, which is the same as Mouz. If head to head is used, Mouz theoretically cannot finish ahead of Axiom at this point right?

Quantic has 1 more match left, but their map differential is too low for tie breaks. If they don't win and get that 6-3, they are done.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 10 2013 17:31 GMT
#79
On November 11 2013 02:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
Damn it, not looking good for Mouz's playoff chances... there goes all the foreign hope.

Yeah, the qualification scenario for mouz involves a loss from TL against Empire-Ence. =/
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 17:46 GMT
#80
So what are the permutations of this? Have Axiom pretty much qualified now or is it still all in the balance?
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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 17:52:38
November 10 2013 17:50 GMT
#81
On November 11 2013 02:30 Bagration wrote:
So what's the playoff picture looking like now?

Mouz: 5-4, +3 (done with their matches)
Quantic: 5-3, -4
Axiom: 5-3, +8
Liquid: 3-3, +0

If I'm understanding correctly, at the very worst (where Axiom gets all killed), Axiom would be 5-4, +3, which is the same as Mouz. If head to head is used, Mouz theoretically cannot finish ahead of Axiom at this point right?

Quantic has 1 more match left, but their map differential is too low for tie breaks. If they don't win and get that 6-3, they are done.


It's worth mentioning that Quantic's remaining match is against Team Liquid. If Quantic win that match can Team Liquid still finish ahead of Axiom? Axiom still have to play Team Liquid so I'm thinking yes?

Also are Millenium out the picture yet? Say they trounce coL and iG. Could they still qualify?
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AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
November 10 2013 17:53 GMT
#82
Still in the balance as if Quantic beat Liquid and then Liquid win their other two then if they have a better map differential then they could just pip Axiom to a playoff spot.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 17:58:39
November 10 2013 17:56 GMT
#83
On November 11 2013 02:53 AWalker9 wrote:
Still in the balance as if Quantic beat Liquid and then Liquid win their other two then if they have a better map differential then they could just pip Axiom to a playoff spot.


Yup, with a 2-1 score in remaining matches, Liquid could at best get a +9 differential (4-5 loss, 5-0 win, 5-0 win). Quantic would advance, and Axiom's map differential would drop to +3. Liquid and Quantic take the remaining two spots then.

The big match will definitely be Axiom-Liquid. In terms of teamleagues, these two teams are pretty even, both having taken series off of each other. Axiom has a deeper lineup though (5 capable players, though Ryung needs to break out of his slump), whereas Liquid's big gun Taeja has peaked higher.
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SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 18:10:34
November 10 2013 18:04 GMT
#84
mouz qualifies iff:
TL wins against Quantic and wins against Axiom 5-0
or TL wins against Quantic, loses against Axiom and Empire-Ence
or TL wins against Quantic and one more, but does not improve their mapscore by more than 2.

Plus:
Millenium doesn't overtake them by taking two wins and improve their mapscore by 8
AND coL doesn't overtake them

Axiom qualifies iff:
They win against TL
or TL wins against Quantic and Axiom is not 0-5'd by TL (and neither Mill nor coL overtake them by miracle)
or TL wins against Quantic and Axiom is 0-5'd by TL but TL has a worse mapscore than Axiom in the end (and neither Mill nor coL overtake them by miracle)
or TL loses against Quantic and wins against Axiom not by 5-0 and does not overtake Axiom in mapscore in the end (and neither Mill nor coL overtake them by miracle)

TL:DR:
Best chance for mouz is TL to win against Quantic and lose against Axiom and Empire-Ence.
Best chance for Axiom is to win against TL (or at least not to be crushed by TL and TL to win against Quantic)

Remember that H2H has less priority than map wins (wins > map diff > map wins > H2H). The rule sucks but it was the case last season as well!
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 10 2013 18:09 GMT
#85
On November 11 2013 02:50 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 02:30 Bagration wrote:
So what's the playoff picture looking like now?

Mouz: 5-4, +3 (done with their matches)
Quantic: 5-3, -4
Axiom: 5-3, +8
Liquid: 3-3, +0

If I'm understanding correctly, at the very worst (where Axiom gets all killed), Axiom would be 5-4, +3, which is the same as Mouz. If head to head is used, Mouz theoretically cannot finish ahead of Axiom at this point right?

Quantic has 1 more match left, but their map differential is too low for tie breaks. If they don't win and get that 6-3, they are done.


It's worth mentioning that Quantic's remaining match is against Team Liquid. If Quantic win that match can Team Liquid still finish ahead of Axiom? Axiom still have to play Team Liquid so I'm thinking yes?

Also are Millenium out the picture yet? Say they trounce coL and iG. Could they still qualify?

Millenium pretty much needs to go 10-0 in the last two matches and the same kind of results as mouz does.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
November 10 2013 18:12 GMT
#86
On November 11 2013 02:56 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 02:53 AWalker9 wrote:
Still in the balance as if Quantic beat Liquid and then Liquid win their other two then if they have a better map differential then they could just pip Axiom to a playoff spot.


Yup, with a 2-1 score in remaining matches, Liquid could at best get a +9 differential (4-5 loss, 5-0 win, 5-0 win). Quantic would advance, and Axiom's map differential would drop to +3. Liquid and Quantic take the remaining two spots then.

The big match will definitely be Axiom-Liquid. In terms of teamleagues, these two teams are pretty even, both having taken series off of each other. Axiom has a deeper lineup though (5 capable players, though Ryung needs to break out of his slump), whereas Liquid's big gun Taeja has peaked higher.


I don't know why but it seems like ever since WCS AM Season 1 Ryung's been slumping. It's really sad to see.
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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 10 2013 20:10 GMT
#87
On November 11 2013 02:56 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 02:53 AWalker9 wrote:
Still in the balance as if Quantic beat Liquid and then Liquid win their other two then if they have a better map differential then they could just pip Axiom to a playoff spot.


Yup, with a 2-1 score in remaining matches, Liquid could at best get a +9 differential (4-5 loss, 5-0 win, 5-0 win). Quantic would advance, and Axiom's map differential would drop to +3. Liquid and Quantic take the remaining two spots then.

The big match will definitely be Axiom-Liquid. In terms of teamleagues, these two teams are pretty even, both having taken series off of each other. Axiom has a deeper lineup though (5 capable players, though Ryung needs to break out of his slump), whereas Liquid's big gun Taeja has peaked higher.


The thing is, and why I'm pretty worried about Team Liquid, is that Axiom often struggle against teams with that one ace player. All of Axiom's losses this season effectively come against one player. TheSTC for compLexity, ForGG for Millenium and San for Western Wolves. I now BabyKnight and MajOr also chipped in a couple of wins in those two non-all-kills but the point still holds up.

While Axiom have great strength in depth, the team is also pretty balanced. Therefore, if the TaeJa build up a bit of momentum he could prove to be unstoppable as Axiom. If not an all-kill, he could take out three or four players in a row and TL have other players, such as Snute who are more than capable of 'mopping up' so to speak. Then again, Heart 2-0ed TaeJa in WCS AM so there's that and TaeJa has been a little off recently. Also, I do believe that the calibre of every player on Axiom is high enough that they could beat anyone if they are totally on their game.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 10 2013 20:47 GMT
#88
Tbh I wouldnt mind any team qualifiying except Quantic I like HyuN but the team is just sooooo shallow It is literlly just HyuN atleast the other teams have a couple of players you know?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
BasetradeTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Canada1307 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-11 00:05:02
November 11 2013 00:03 GMT
#89
Here are my english Vods from today:
Ryung vs hOpe
Game 1

Alicia vs hOpe
Game 2

Alicia vs Lucifron
Game 3

Alicia vs MaNa
Game 4

Alicia vs Vortix
Game 5

Crank vs Vortix
Game 6

Crank vs Vortix
Game 7

Impact vs Vortix
Game 8
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 11 2013 00:20 GMT
#90
On November 11 2013 05:47 GumBa wrote:
Tbh I wouldnt mind any team qualifiying except Quantic I like HyuN but the team is just sooooo shallow It is literlly just HyuN atleast the other teams have a couple of players you know?


Yeah, have to agree with you. But it would be great for the other teams though. Quantic is such an easy team to prepare for. Just snipe Hyun and you're good to go.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
November 11 2013 00:56 GMT
#91
HyuNtic and friends should not be counted out.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
November 11 2013 01:25 GMT
#92
On November 11 2013 05:47 GumBa wrote:
Tbh I wouldnt mind any team qualifiying except Quantic I like HyuN but the team is just sooooo shallow It is literlly just HyuN atleast the other teams have a couple of players you know?


Looking through the results it's unbelievable how reliant Quantic are on HyuN. He simply carries the team.
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mouz.Wake
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden136 Posts
November 11 2013 15:57 GMT
#93
Our fate now lies in other teams hands once again. Just like it did in the last ATC season, just like it did in SC2L. I've been wanting to write something here for quite a while, but I'm out of words. We had quite a journey, with a very disappointing start of this season into a remarkable comeback, a force of nature I surely did not see coming. With that being said, I apologize to our fans that we most likely did not make it this time either. There's a very good Swedish saying: He who joins the game, must take the consequences of the game.
FORMER StarCraft II Team Manager for mousesports || @I_am_Wake
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
November 11 2013 16:05 GMT
#94
On November 12 2013 00:57 mouz.Wake wrote:
Our fate now lies in other teams hands once again. Just like it did in the last ATC season, just like it did in SC2L. I've been wanting to write something here for quite a while, but I'm out of words. We had quite a journey, with a very disappointing start of this season into a remarkable comeback, a force of nature I surely did not see coming. With that being said, I apologize to our fans that we most likely did not make it this time either. There's a very good Swedish saying: He who joins the game, must take the consequences of the game.

Don't worry, even if you don't make it to the playoffs, I think most fans like myself are happy with the performance. Still the best foreigner team by far! (Sorry Acer, I love you too, but you did kind of get carried by Innovation..)
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-11 16:28:02
November 11 2013 16:25 GMT
#95
On November 12 2013 00:57 mouz.Wake wrote:
Our fate now lies in other teams hands once again. Just like it did in the last ATC season, just like it did in SC2L. I've been wanting to write something here for quite a while, but I'm out of words. We had quite a journey, with a very disappointing start of this season into a remarkable comeback, a force of nature I surely did not see coming. With that being said, I apologize to our fans that we most likely did not make it this time either. There's a very good Swedish saying: He who joins the game, must take the consequences of the game.


Not sure why so gloomy. Apart from being demolished by Major, the performance was very good:

Winning against Teamliquid and Western Wolves, Vortix demolishing Quantic.
The win against Empire-Bratok-Ence and Invicturs Gaming were anticipated,
as were the losses against Team Acer (Innovation + MMA) and Axiom.
The clanwar vs Millenium was incredibly close but in the end ForGG just proved to be too good.

edit:

On November 12 2013 01:05 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 00:57 mouz.Wake wrote:
Our fate now lies in other teams hands once again. Just like it did in the last ATC season, just like it did in SC2L. I've been wanting to write something here for quite a while, but I'm out of words. We had quite a journey, with a very disappointing start of this season into a remarkable comeback, a force of nature I surely did not see coming. With that being said, I apologize to our fans that we most likely did not make it this time either. There's a very good Swedish saying: He who joins the game, must take the consequences of the game.

Don't worry, even if you don't make it to the playoffs, I think most fans like myself are happy with the performance. Still the best foreigner team by far! (Sorry Acer, I love you too, but you did kind of get carried by Innovation..)


What an obvious trollpost. MMA also did well more than his share of pulling the team!
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-11 17:18:40
November 11 2013 17:15 GMT
#96
On November 12 2013 01:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 00:57 mouz.Wake wrote:
Our fate now lies in other teams hands once again. Just like it did in the last ATC season, just like it did in SC2L. I've been wanting to write something here for quite a while, but I'm out of words. We had quite a journey, with a very disappointing start of this season into a remarkable comeback, a force of nature I surely did not see coming. With that being said, I apologize to our fans that we most likely did not make it this time either. There's a very good Swedish saying: He who joins the game, must take the consequences of the game.


Not sure why so gloomy. Apart from being demolished by Major, the performance was very good:

Winning against Teamliquid and Western Wolves, Vortix demolishing Quantic.
The win against Empire-Bratok-Ence and Invicturs Gaming were anticipated,
as were the losses against Team Acer (Innovation + MMA) and Axiom.
The clanwar vs Millenium was incredibly close but in the end ForGG just proved to be too good.

edit:

Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 01:05 mikkmagro wrote:
On November 12 2013 00:57 mouz.Wake wrote:
Our fate now lies in other teams hands once again. Just like it did in the last ATC season, just like it did in SC2L. I've been wanting to write something here for quite a while, but I'm out of words. We had quite a journey, with a very disappointing start of this season into a remarkable comeback, a force of nature I surely did not see coming. With that being said, I apologize to our fans that we most likely did not make it this time either. There's a very good Swedish saying: He who joins the game, must take the consequences of the game.

Don't worry, even if you don't make it to the playoffs, I think most fans like myself are happy with the performance. Still the best foreigner team by far! (Sorry Acer, I love you too, but you did kind of get carried by Innovation..)


What an obvious trollpost. MMA also did well more than his share of pulling the team!

It's not a troll post :< MMA did very well, but Innovation was sent out alot more, and got more wins for Acer.

Edit: in fact, Innovation was the second best player in the league after HyuN, and he played 22 matches for Acer, compared to MMA's 9.
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