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Please avoid balance whining as usual.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 27 2013 19:05 GMT
#1021
On October 28 2013 04:04 Fjodorov wrote:
Just joined the party. SK vs Oz must have been very long games I guess considering it was 3 - 0 but this match is just starting.

Game 2 was pretty long, Trap had technical issues so we just lost like 20 minutes.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
October 27 2013 19:05 GMT
#1022
On October 28 2013 04:01 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 03:59 Hryul wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:58 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
yo guys, any chance they play a handful of games today??

man aren't you a bit impolite for a Canadian?



maybe? I dont know?


Well I think the Royal Canadian Mounted Police is already on its way. Being rude on the internet is a serious crime!
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 27 2013 19:06 GMT
#1023
On October 28 2013 04:04 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:51 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:48 Plansix wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:46 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:42 pms wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:38 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:29 pms wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:20 Zheryn wrote:
[quote]

Everyone's excited that we might have a foreigner at the biggest SC2 event, so why wouldn't we talk about it? It's the most interesting story during this tournament and if he makes it, Blizzcon will be so much more fun to watch for most players and most likely have 20k more viewers than if he doesn't.


There is probably as many people who dislike Naniwa as those who like him. So you are not speaking on behalf on everyone. But regardless of that, this is a LR thread for a tournament Naniwa isn't even in, so I agree with anyone who finds constant Naniwa chance speculation irritating.



Every time Naniwa wins, there are tons of people expressing "how they don't like him blah blah blah", instead of talking about the actual games. We have to stand it. Now, you can stand the fact that, chances are, we will have a one SINGLE foreigner in the WCS Global Final. There are many people who care about that.


If you love the game you shouldn't care if there are koreans or foreigners in it. You should be in it for the games.Quality games. Everybody has his favorite player and if you said Naniwa is your favorite and that is the reason you want him at Blizzcon it would be ok. But from your statement it seems that you simply want non korean, basically white people in it, for sole reason of them being non korean.That is kind of racist.


Hahaha... Seriously? :D

The funniest thing I've heard in the long time! You must've been joking.

Yes, Naniwa is my fav players, but I also always cheer for foreigners. This is rasism, really?



Well you were the one who said people should talk about actual games but you talk about a player who isn't even in this tournament and about popularity of koreans / non koreans and our chances of having SINGLE non korean at the next big tournament.

Maybe you should follow your own advice and concentrate on the games and we can debate about Naniwa at Blizzcon (if he makes it there)

Maybe you should spend less time calling people racist because they want to see a player they like make it to Blizzcon. I know its weird, but sometimes it has nothing to do with race.


There was nothing in his post that would indicate he wants Naniwa in because he is a fan, he said " chances are, we will have a one SINGLE foreigner in the WCS Global Final. There are many people who care about that."

That sounds racist to me because it sounds like he doesn't care who it is as long as it is some foreigner dude. But later he said he is Naniwa fan so I guess he wants him there for that reason.

But the main point stands. There is no Naniwa in this tournament and he himself said we should focus more on actual games, so lets do that, shall we? At least I will and from now I will completely ignore all post containing Naniwa in it.


You're confusing racism with nationalism. If I was Korean, I'd be happy with Korean players. But since I'm a "foreigner," I'll settle for any foreigner. It's not so much about race as it is about representation. I can't identify with Korean players, their dominance, performance, etc. I can, however, identify with the underdog, the "foreigner," since that's the demographic I happen to fall into, in terms of Starcraft.


Here's my question. How come you don't have any standards when it comes to cheering for foreigners? I'm all for being nationalistic as I cheer for canadians in under represented sports like basketball, football, baseball, etc, but I don't blindly cheer for all canadians. I have standards, so cheer for people like steve nash, etc and would never cheer for a bm/douchebag cdn just because they were cdn.

My problem with the community has always been is they turn bm players like naniwa/idra into heroes and those two represent the stereotype of bm/raging/anti social image that the mainstream have of gamers. When gamers make players like that their heroes, they embrace that stereotype which is why gamers will never earn the respect of the mainstream and I can't blame them for that. Until the community and gamers in general can clear up their immaturity/misogynist image, they will never be taken seriously.


Yeh you could probably take this discussion to some place else.

Just be here to talk about the games and bring the passion
Zerg for Life
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 27 2013 19:06 GMT
#1024
On October 28 2013 04:04 Fjodorov wrote:
Just joined the party. SK vs Oz must have been very long games I guess considering it was 3 - 0 but this match is just starting.


45 minute downtime because of Trap's PC.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
October 27 2013 19:07 GMT
#1025
On October 28 2013 04:04 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:00 packrat386 wrote:
(Z)ByuL vs (P)Trap
0 - 0
Map: Polar Night

0:00
Byul is at the bottom
Trap is at the top



1:00
nothing too interesting yet
restarted completely btw
pylon in base for trap
gateway in base for trap
the probe will block the hatch, but its not there

2:00
pool first and then hatch at the third
no nexus for Trap yet

3:00
a zealot starts even after seeing the pool
trap getting fast Wg then expand

4:00
the pylon is killed and the third hatch goes down
2nd gas goes down for trap[/QUOTE]

5:00
Byul taking some gas
2 gates otw for trap
zealot and stalker killing some lings out on the map

6:00
roach warren goes down
robo placed for trap
pylon in the middle of the map near the natural
its spotted but survives

7:00
there aren;t many units out for trap
byul is making a good amount of roaches

8:00
trap is making immortals
byul has no lair and is getting a lot more gas
several more gates on the way for trap
many lings and speed otw for byul
dreaming of a sunny day
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 27 2013 19:07 GMT
#1026
Can Trap live up to his team name?
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
October 27 2013 19:07 GMT
#1027
why don't protoss ever do a full walloff and then take the back expansion, blistering sands style?
"Expert" mods4ever.com
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 27 2013 19:07 GMT
#1028
Six is not an odd gateway number. That's an even gateway number!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
October 27 2013 19:08 GMT
#1029
those force fields were realllllly bad.

slow and missed
xlnqeniuz
Profile Joined October 2013
Netherlands30 Posts
October 27 2013 19:08 GMT
#1030
Trap got trapped!
MARINEKING! ~ PIGLET! <3 - Yoona! *_*
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
October 27 2013 19:08 GMT
#1031
On October 28 2013 04:04 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 03:54 jeeeeohn wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:51 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:48 Plansix wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:46 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:42 pms wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:38 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:29 pms wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:25 Qwerty85 wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:20 Zheryn wrote:
[quote]

Everyone's excited that we might have a foreigner at the biggest SC2 event, so why wouldn't we talk about it? It's the most interesting story during this tournament and if he makes it, Blizzcon will be so much more fun to watch for most players and most likely have 20k more viewers than if he doesn't.


There is probably as many people who dislike Naniwa as those who like him. So you are not speaking on behalf on everyone. But regardless of that, this is a LR thread for a tournament Naniwa isn't even in, so I agree with anyone who finds constant Naniwa chance speculation irritating.



Every time Naniwa wins, there are tons of people expressing "how they don't like him blah blah blah", instead of talking about the actual games. We have to stand it. Now, you can stand the fact that, chances are, we will have a one SINGLE foreigner in the WCS Global Final. There are many people who care about that.


If you love the game you shouldn't care if there are koreans or foreigners in it. You should be in it for the games.Quality games. Everybody has his favorite player and if you said Naniwa is your favorite and that is the reason you want him at Blizzcon it would be ok. But from your statement it seems that you simply want non korean, basically white people in it, for sole reason of them being non korean.That is kind of racist.


Hahaha... Seriously? :D

The funniest thing I've heard in the long time! You must've been joking.

Yes, Naniwa is my fav players, but I also always cheer for foreigners. This is rasism, really?



Well you were the one who said people should talk about actual games but you talk about a player who isn't even in this tournament and about popularity of koreans / non koreans and our chances of having SINGLE non korean at the next big tournament.

Maybe you should follow your own advice and concentrate on the games and we can debate about Naniwa at Blizzcon (if he makes it there)

Maybe you should spend less time calling people racist because they want to see a player they like make it to Blizzcon. I know its weird, but sometimes it has nothing to do with race.


There was nothing in his post that would indicate he wants Naniwa in because he is a fan, he said " chances are, we will have a one SINGLE foreigner in the WCS Global Final. There are many people who care about that."

That sounds racist to me because it sounds like he doesn't care who it is as long as it is some foreigner dude. But later he said he is Naniwa fan so I guess he wants him there for that reason.

But the main point stands. There is no Naniwa in this tournament and he himself said we should focus more on actual games, so lets do that, shall we? At least I will and from now I will completely ignore all post containing Naniwa in it.


You're confusing racism with nationalism. If I was Korean, I'd be happy with Korean players. But since I'm a "foreigner," I'll settle for any foreigner. It's not so much about race as it is about representation. I can't identify with Korean players, their dominance, performance, etc. I can, however, identify with the underdog, the "foreigner," since that's the demographic I happen to fall into, in terms of Starcraft.


Here's my question. How come you don't have any standards when it comes to cheering for foreigners? I'm all for being nationalistic as I cheer for canadians in under represented sports like basketball, football, baseball, etc, but I don't blindly cheer for all canadians. I have standards, so cheer for people like steve nash, etc and would never cheer for a bm/douchebag cdn just because they were cdn.

My problem with the community has always been is they turn bm players like naniwa/idra into heroes and those two represent the stereotype of bm/raging/anti social image that the mainstream have of gamers. When gamers make players like that their heroes, they embrace that stereotype which is why gamers will never earn the respect of the mainstream and I can't blame them for that. Until the community and gamers in general can clear up their immature/misogynist image, they will never be taken seriously.


I actually agree with you. For me, it's just a case of "I'll take what I can get." I don't particularly care for Naniwa (I don't dislike him either), but I'll root for him.

As for what you said about gamers' images, you're absolutely correct. Any culture that actively uses the word "rape" lightheartedly is destined to be shunned.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 27 2013 19:08 GMT
#1032
wow bad mismicro from trap...
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 27 2013 19:08 GMT
#1033
On October 28 2013 04:07 Shellshock wrote:
Can Trap live up to his team name?


Well, it certainly was a trap

only, he was the one trapped
AdministratorBreak the chains
Fhiz
Profile Joined October 2013
361 Posts
October 27 2013 19:08 GMT
#1034
so wait who do we want to win this game? (in sight of nani wa HOPE)
girls generation make u feel da heat
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 27 2013 19:09 GMT
#1035
Really great defence from Byul, so hard to hold that with just Roach, Ling and he did it perfectly
Zerg for Life
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 27 2013 19:09 GMT
#1036
On October 28 2013 04:08 Fhiz wrote:
so wait who do we want to win this game? (in sight of nani wa HOPE)


Does not matter.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
October 27 2013 19:09 GMT
#1037
On October 28 2013 04:07 Die4Ever wrote:
why don't protoss ever do a full walloff and then take the back expansion, blistering sands style?

Because it isn't a true back expansion. You can attack it from the normal third base
QO Feasting
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
October 27 2013 19:09 GMT
#1038
On October 28 2013 04:08 Fhiz wrote:
so wait who do we want to win this game? (in sight of nani wa HOPE)

doesn't matter. whoever is weaker against Soulkey.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 27 2013 19:09 GMT
#1039
People been whining about toss the whole tournament. But by the looks of it the final 4 might very well be 1 toss 2 zerg and a terran.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
October 27 2013 19:10 GMT
#1040
On October 28 2013 04:07 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 04:04 packrat386 wrote:
On October 28 2013 04:00 packrat386 wrote:
(Z)ByuL vs (P)Trap
0 - 0
Map: Polar Night

0:00
Byul is at the bottom
Trap is at the top


1:00
nothing too interesting yet
restarted completely btw
pylon in base for trap
gateway in base for trap
the probe will block the hatch, but its not there

2:00
pool first and then hatch at the third
no nexus for Trap yet

3:00
a zealot starts even after seeing the pool
trap getting fast Wg then expand

4:00
the pylon is killed and the third hatch goes down
2nd gas goes down for trap


5:00
Byul taking some gas
2 gates otw for trap
zealot and stalker killing some lings out on the map

6:00
roach warren goes down
robo placed for trap
pylon in the middle of the map near the natural
its spotted but survives

7:00
there aren;t many units out for trap
byul is making a good amount of roaches

8:00
trap is making immortals
byul has no lair and is getting a lot more gas
several more gates on the way for trap
many lings and speed otw for byul


9:00
byulis making a lot more lings
lair is quite late
trap is looking to flank
the army gets surrounded

10:00
one immortal falls
trap loses a lot of sentries

11:00
trap probes the nat but then circles around to the third and tries to do damage
40 probes to 47 drones
trap still can't get too much done

12:00
trap goes home and might attempt a sentry drop
it gets spotted while the roaches take the map
dreaming of a sunny day
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