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Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
October 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#1681
mules are too strong in the late game, I think every other race needs a mechanic like that otherwise it's too difficult to win a war of attrition against Terran. There is a reason I cheese terran every game on the ladder.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
October 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#1682
On October 27 2013 04:51 Noc- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:49 ReMinD_ wrote:
I want to know what guys at Blizzard were smoking when they came up with Widow Mine.


YES! YEEES! GIVE THEM TO ME

[image loading]


MMA IS BACK! Hooooly shit that game was awesome.


One of the best series of WCS so far. To come back from 50-120 supply, I mean come on. We got a miracle worker on our hands.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
October 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#1683
On October 27 2013 04:51 -RusH wrote:
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On October 27 2013 04:47 unigolyn wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:46 Caladan wrote:
Please quit SC2, Jaedong. -.-
Please.


Please stop posting, Caladan.
Please.

Forreal. JD aint no quitter he'll be back stronger like he always has. Grats to MMA though, nice seeing him back in form.

True though it seem like he deteriorated since the RO8 against Hack. There is still time to make up for it before Blizzcon. Trap to win WCS S3!
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#1684
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
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On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?

Yes, every opportunity is good for random requests.
Bizeheryer
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany307 Posts
October 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#1685
On October 27 2013 04:47 robson1 wrote:
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On October 27 2013 04:46 Arceus wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:43 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:42 Caladan wrote:
JD has 2000-1000 ressources and does nothing.

JD officially worst gamer WCS S3.

JD I'm a big fan of you, but please quit SC2. -.-

you can't be serious?

he does play real real real bad
I mean waiting like 2 centuries to make 5 BLs and saving a trust fund in the process and yet taking the worst engagement this year? I mean what?


you fanboys are ridiculous. I can't believe that you are even a real person. How can you look at a game like that and call JDs play REAL REAL REAL bad.


Well to be fair it was. Anything else would won him that game. Truth hurts sometimes. =(
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
October 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#1686
Honestly, both players had a point in the game where they were ahead and both lost their lead in a unfavourable engagement (MMA lost it JD killed the rocks and JD lost his lead at that end engagement where he lost his ultimate BL / Infestor / Ultrarisk army).
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3135 Posts
October 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#1687
Balance discussion is neither here nor there for that game. Jaedong lost it because he didn't play as well as MMA. Plain and simple.

Poor Jaedong. That engagement...
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#1688
On October 27 2013 04:48 Derez wrote:
That's not a 'one of the best games of the year'. It was entertaining but it wasn't well played.


Not everyone thinks perfect displays of skill are the primary factor in what makes a good game.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#1689
On October 27 2013 04:50 Squat wrote:
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On October 27 2013 04:46 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:45 unigolyn wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:45 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:42 Weavel wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:42 Caladan wrote:
JD has 2000-1000 ressources and does nothing.

JD officially worst gamer WCS S3.

JD I'm a big fan of you, but please quit SC2. -.-
Stop with this quit sc2 crap.

I'd love to see him back in BW on Afreeca, watching him play SC2 has become painful. Just because some people would like him to play the game he started out in again does not mean it's somehow destructive or directed at SC2


BW forums are somewhere on the left, I don't know, I've disabled them.

Why is it painful to watch him play SC2? Just because he doesn't win every tournament? He's still a top 10 or top 5 zerg

"because he does not win every tournament?" You really just wrote that? Wow.
And no he's not a top zerg right now. He was for a while, but his play the last few months has been increasingly horrible. It hurts to watch because I watched him do magic in BW for 5 years and now reduced to this.

I really don't get how that makes me hate SC2 just because I prefer amazing players actually playing in their element.

What? I didn't say that meant you hated SC2.... and he got top four WCS AM recently so he was playing pretty well. And yeah I did write that. Point out to me where that was out of line? When your favorite player loses, you need to learn to not go full moron and call for his retirement. Let it go.
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
October 26 2013 19:52 GMT
#1690
On October 27 2013 04:48 JyB wrote:
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On October 27 2013 04:47 purakushi wrote:
Balance aside, MULE drops need to be changed to cooldown.
silly

GG, regardless.


That really is a good proposition.


balance aside...
then u gotta make lategame units for T viable cause T wont be able to sack 30 scvs to get more army supply and still be able to compete vs a 3-3-3 deathball of doomdeath or any wicked zerg comp where they get power units and fungal your ass to death...

epic series nontheless :D
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#1691
On October 27 2013 04:52 Applesmack wrote:
mules are too strong in the late game, I think every other race needs a mechanic like that otherwise it's too difficult to win a war of attrition against Terran. There is a reason I cheese terran every game on the ladder.

Indeed, but I'm afraid it has little to do with the strength of Terran lategame.
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
October 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#1692
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before it held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.

Yeah because Fungal was the issue there...

Serious it wasn't fungal, mules or mines.

JD attacked into a choke with his infestors in front of his ultras and his broodlords weren't there yet. Not to mention flanking with BLs is just not handy, they aren't made for that.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 19:54:30
October 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#1693
The problem was that JD tried to defend his expansion, sure it was important, however it resulted in him being in a very bad position, his infestors were infront while ultras were blocked at the back, further a huge part of JD's army, namely the broodlords came in way to late, they prolly consisted of 50% of JD's army. everything that could had gone wrong encounter-wise did go wrong.

It's not really strange that JD lost that fight.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
October 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#1694
On October 27 2013 04:51 thoradycus wrote:
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On October 27 2013 04:49 zmansman17 wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:48 MrCon wrote:
A lot of times JD had a pack of lings that could just be right clicked directly in MMA's main, he really botched the game
Well we need more terrans anyway.


It's so easy for Zerg to just move command in lings and keep harass. But Jaedong failed to do this time and time again. What was it 50 supply to 120 and MMA STILL comes back? Zergs should NEVER let them happen when they can just move command in units. Nothing a terran can do with that supply differential.

yeah his main was completely undefended :/


I've also no idea why Jaedong let the sensor towers stay up so long on the map. They gave so much map coverage; MMA must have felt so comfortable with his position even though he was contained to the top left.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
October 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#1695
On October 27 2013 04:51 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:49 Incognoto wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:47 iAmJeffReY wrote:
We can all say now from that game
widow mines imba

wtf?


what are you talking about the game is perfectly balanced :/


sk destroys Polt 2-0. Balance whine. Zerg is unbeatable. Mines should not friendly fire.
MMA wins over JD 2-0. Balance whine. Mules are disgusting. Mines are broken.

#toxic community.

SK barely beat Polt 2-1.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 19:53:42
October 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#1696
On October 27 2013 04:52 Applesmack wrote:
mules are too strong in the late game, I think every other race needs a mechanic like that otherwise it's too difficult to win a war of attrition against Terran. There is a reason I cheese terran every game on the ladder.


Can you stop complaining for like two seconds? I love how we see an extremely close series conclude and then you have the bronze leaguers come and try to draw sweeping conclusions about game balance. Just relax. It was a great series and either player could have won.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
veKtory
Profile Joined June 2012
233 Posts
October 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#1697
On October 27 2013 04:51 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:51 veKtory wrote:
Rebuff fungal please. Right now it's worse than when it was in WoL before it got buffed. At least before he held units in place, right now it doesn't last long enough to hold units in place or does enough damage.


Are you really asking for a rebuff of fungal after an EXTREMELY close series that likely would have gone to Jaedong had he not been playing so badly?


No, it's been like that for a while. Fungal is practically useless. They nerfed fungal to doing such little damage while not buffing the duration time.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32749 Posts
October 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#1698
Hack excels at eliminating fan favorites, will his streak continue?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
October 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#1699
On October 27 2013 04:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 04:51 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:50 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:49 stuchiu wrote:
Oh was Caladan that guy who kept posting the afreeca site on Flash's facebook every time Flash lost a game?

Pretty sure.

wasn't that NicksonReyes?

Yeah, him.

i think the id was

NickReyes ? idk ..but thats the one !
this is a quote
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
October 26 2013 19:53 GMT
#1700
To be honest, I don't think Jaedong played that well. Soulkey looked a lot more solid in ZvT IMO.
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