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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 01:27 GMT
#5061
On October 27 2013 10:27 Lorning wrote:
Optimus casting optimus

That's almost ironic.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
October 27 2013 01:28 GMT
#5062
On October 27 2013 10:19 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 09:58 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:55 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:49 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him

Slightly inconsistent, but his top lvl is definately not far behind Dears.. maybe we should w8 and see, but right now naniwa has come out ahead

In what possible way has Naniwa come out ahead? Dear won WCS KR. Naniwa couldn't even make the finals for WCS EU once. Yeah he was good in the GSL like over a year ago. That means now he is better than the Dear? I don't even like Dear but you are delusional if you think they are even close much less Naniwa being ahead

I mean as results are so arguable, we could just go by their offline engagement

How are results arguable? Stop living in the past. Naniwa beat him like 6 months ago when Dear wasn't even in Code S. He is WAY better now and its not even close. Meanwhile Naniwa can't even make top 8 in the easiest WCS region by far.

Well as Naniwa keep getting top placements, I don't really see that I'm so far off. And I bet my hat on that he can beat him again..
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 27 2013 01:28 GMT
#5063
On October 27 2013 10:27 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:25 Sub40APM wrote:
mr bitter is only 28?


Yeah, so? A lot of them are younglings.

the way Rotti treats him, i thought mid 30s. plus that thinning hair and random anecdotes from the early 90s that implied he was like a teen back then...
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 01:28 GMT
#5064
On October 27 2013 10:27 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:24 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:22 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
W/e everyone knows Blizzcon semis will be HerO vs. Polt and Mvp vs. Bomber with HerO winning over Mvp in the finals. You heard it here first.

unless things changed I think HerO is currently slated to face Mvp in round 1 due to their point standings.


Best possible draw for Mvp imo

I thought you wanted Mvp to win though?


He probably would. With the way HerO sometimes throws games away I think MVP could take him.

With the way Mvp loses twice to Showtime, I think HerO could have his number!
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 27 2013 01:28 GMT
#5065
Sorry guy with carrier sign. :/
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 27 2013 01:28 GMT
#5066
OMG that polt --> superterran cheerful again, saw that like 8 hours ago
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 01:28 GMT
#5067
On October 27 2013 10:28 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:19 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:58 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:55 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:49 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him

Slightly inconsistent, but his top lvl is definately not far behind Dears.. maybe we should w8 and see, but right now naniwa has come out ahead

In what possible way has Naniwa come out ahead? Dear won WCS KR. Naniwa couldn't even make the finals for WCS EU once. Yeah he was good in the GSL like over a year ago. That means now he is better than the Dear? I don't even like Dear but you are delusional if you think they are even close much less Naniwa being ahead

I mean as results are so arguable, we could just go by their offline engagement

How are results arguable? Stop living in the past. Naniwa beat him like 6 months ago when Dear wasn't even in Code S. He is WAY better now and its not even close. Meanwhile Naniwa can't even make top 8 in the easiest WCS region by far.

Well as Naniwa keep getting top placements, I don't really see that I'm so far off. And I bet my hat on that he can beat him again..

Would you say you'll eat your hat if Naniwa loses to him? TL gets pretty hyped about those kinds of things.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 27 2013 01:28 GMT
#5068
On October 27 2013 10:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:26 Yhamm wrote:
can't they show the damn bracket already ?


They usually show the brackets at the last minute, to prevent people from doing a Stork.

you realize that 2 matches will be played tomorrow?
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
October 27 2013 01:29 GMT
#5069
On October 27 2013 10:26 The_Templar wrote:
ok I can live report for about 2.5 more hours then I have to go to bed
but 10.5 hours is not bad

why do you have to got to bed? Also, I might be able to do a bit there at the end.
dreaming of a sunny day
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 27 2013 01:29 GMT
#5070
On October 27 2013 10:28 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:27 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:25 Sub40APM wrote:
mr bitter is only 28?


Yeah, so? A lot of them are younglings.

the way Rotti treats him, i thought mid 30s. plus that thinning hair and random anecdotes from the early 90s that implied he was like a teen back then...

lots and lots of guys start balding in their 20s, sometimes even early 20s. not all guys are the actors and news anchors on tv and in movies just like for women, there are unfair body images for us too
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 27 2013 01:29 GMT
#5071
On October 27 2013 10:28 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:27 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:25 Sub40APM wrote:
mr bitter is only 28?


Yeah, so? A lot of them are younglings.

the way Rotti treats him, i thought mid 30s. plus that thinning hair and random anecdotes from the early 90s that implied he was like a teen back then...


My Dad lost his hair when he went to Uni. I'm fortunate to still have some hair and I'm over 30. ;/ 90s are the 90s man
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 27 2013 01:29 GMT
#5072
On October 27 2013 10:28 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:27 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:24 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:22 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
W/e everyone knows Blizzcon semis will be HerO vs. Polt and Mvp vs. Bomber with HerO winning over Mvp in the finals. You heard it here first.

unless things changed I think HerO is currently slated to face Mvp in round 1 due to their point standings.


Best possible draw for Mvp imo

I thought you wanted Mvp to win though?


He probably would. With the way HerO sometimes throws games away I think MVP could take him.

With the way Mvp loses twice to Showtime, I think HerO could have his number!


Yeah but we can give him a pass for that. MVP once lost terribly to Idra and has looked down and out several times in his career.

Then he shows up and wins shit. I'm still shocked at his 2012 season 4 run in GSL. Even more so that he got Life to game 7 and came an inch from winning.

Can't say I've seen the same from HerO.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 01:30 GMT
#5073
How come Maru hasn't accepted his rightful throne and Optimus title?
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
projectChaos
Profile Joined December 2011
154 Posts
October 27 2013 01:30 GMT
#5074
So unless Oz wins a match and traps wins the whole thing, which is very unlikely, Naniwa is going to be at blizzcon.

goooo fooooreignerrrrrr
da only one who can do it
scaban84
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1080 Posts
October 27 2013 01:30 GMT
#5075
Watching SC2 tournaments gives me the impression that gamers only listen to electro-house.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." — Friedrich von Hayek
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 27 2013 01:30 GMT
#5076
On October 27 2013 10:28 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:19 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:58 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:55 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:49 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him

Slightly inconsistent, but his top lvl is definately not far behind Dears.. maybe we should w8 and see, but right now naniwa has come out ahead

In what possible way has Naniwa come out ahead? Dear won WCS KR. Naniwa couldn't even make the finals for WCS EU once. Yeah he was good in the GSL like over a year ago. That means now he is better than the Dear? I don't even like Dear but you are delusional if you think they are even close much less Naniwa being ahead

I mean as results are so arguable, we could just go by their offline engagement

How are results arguable? Stop living in the past. Naniwa beat him like 6 months ago when Dear wasn't even in Code S. He is WAY better now and its not even close. Meanwhile Naniwa can't even make top 8 in the easiest WCS region by far.

Well as Naniwa keep getting top placements, I don't really see that I'm so far off. And I bet my hat on that he can beat him again..

If naniwa and dear both make into blizzcon, they'd have to meet in the finals
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TL+ Member
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 01:30 GMT
#5077
On October 27 2013 10:29 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:28 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:27 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:24 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:22 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
W/e everyone knows Blizzcon semis will be HerO vs. Polt and Mvp vs. Bomber with HerO winning over Mvp in the finals. You heard it here first.

unless things changed I think HerO is currently slated to face Mvp in round 1 due to their point standings.


Best possible draw for Mvp imo

I thought you wanted Mvp to win though?


He probably would. With the way HerO sometimes throws games away I think MVP could take him.

With the way Mvp loses twice to Showtime, I think HerO could have his number!


Yeah but we can give him a pass for that. MVP once lost terribly to Idra and has looked down and out several times in his career.

Then he shows up and wins shit. I'm still shocked at his 2012 season 4 run in GSL. Even more so that he got Life to game 7 and came an inch from winning.

Can't say I've seen the same from HerO.

But it'll be almost winter! And HerO's wrists are slightly more intact
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 01:33:01
October 27 2013 01:30 GMT
#5078
On October 27 2013 10:28 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:28 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:19 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:58 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:55 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:49 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:43 bourne117 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:37 Muffloe wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:33 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:
who cares if Dear is considered the better player, i just would like to see someone other than Koreans at Blizzcon. It's just much more exciting and the storylines and "underdog" feel of it is great.


I care. I mean if I wanted to watch story lines with a vague connection to competitive spirit, I'd watch pro-wrestling.

So your calling Naniwa bad? Yes Dear won the GSL, but Naniwa has aswell had some success in the league, while also having multiple international top finishes. Also, I believe he alerady beat Dear offline.

Naniwa having success in the GSL last year in WoL does not mean he is at the level now. Especially when Kespa hadn't switched yet also. If Naniwa was even close to the level of Dear he would have had no issues in WCS EU and at the very least made it to WCS season 3 finals and not be at home hoping these players lose so he can make it to blizzcon. He plays in the easiest region if he can't make it that's on him

Slightly inconsistent, but his top lvl is definately not far behind Dears.. maybe we should w8 and see, but right now naniwa has come out ahead

In what possible way has Naniwa come out ahead? Dear won WCS KR. Naniwa couldn't even make the finals for WCS EU once. Yeah he was good in the GSL like over a year ago. That means now he is better than the Dear? I don't even like Dear but you are delusional if you think they are even close much less Naniwa being ahead

I mean as results are so arguable, we could just go by their offline engagement

How are results arguable? Stop living in the past. Naniwa beat him like 6 months ago when Dear wasn't even in Code S. He is WAY better now and its not even close. Meanwhile Naniwa can't even make top 8 in the easiest WCS region by far.

Well as Naniwa keep getting top placements, I don't really see that I'm so far off. And I bet my hat on that he can beat him again..

Would you say you'll eat your hat if Naniwa loses to him? TL gets pretty hyped about those kinds of things.

Sure, I'll do it ._.
I'll write it down somewhere so that I won't forget it
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
October 27 2013 01:30 GMT
#5079
On October 27 2013 10:26 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 10:24 mishimaBeef wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:23 Waise wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:22 mishimaBeef wrote:
i really do hope they ``rig`` the ro8 so that people dont have to face their teammates and/or we get the best mix of matchups (i.e. not mirror matchups)

that's cheating the system though. there are 3 races in this game and you should be prepared to take on any matchup depending on the strength of your opponents. any player with mirror as their worst MU is given an unfair advantage by rigged seeds. and teamkills are a part of the game


yeah but it's about the viewers bro, especially if someone actually calls someone else out... so far people have been saying a lot of "i don't want to face my teammate" and they should... think about the scene!~

Sacrifice integrity for some random silly nonsense?
Yea, i pass thanks.


what integrity? it's not like they pre-set the matches in ro8 did they?
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 01:30 GMT
#5080
On October 27 2013 10:30 projectChaos wrote:
So unless Oz wins a match and traps wins the whole thing, which is very unlikely, Naniwa is going to be at blizzcon.

goooo fooooreignerrrrrr
da only one who can do it

Uhem. Dear and Oz can win their matches. So yeah, Naniwa is on the verge of. His fault.
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