• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:50
CEST 16:50
KST 23:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors0Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22
Community News
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event8Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results02026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches> WardiTV Spring Cup SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors BW General Discussion Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1936 users

[WCS Finals] Day 1 Season 3 Grand Finals 2013 - Page 244

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 242 243 244 245 246 268 Next
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 26 2013 03:27 GMT
#4861
On October 26 2013 12:25 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:22 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
This is an INCREDIBLE build and gameplay by Dear, incredible micro, amazing macro to keep reinforcing with units, unmatchable decisionmaking... I don't see Oz having any chance in this series, Dear is just looking absolutely unbeatable currently.

1 base play and amazing macro just don't go together... I guess this is sarcasm but it's not remotely clever/funny


Not necessarily. If you can be continuously producing units from existing production and keeping money low on 1 base, it's still pretty good macro. Just because it's a timing attack or an all in doesn't mean that key skills like macro isn't required.

Keeping money low on 1 base low isn't that hard and a progamer should be able to do it comfortably whilst harrassing. Calling it amazing is just ridiculous.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
October 26 2013 03:27 GMT
#4862
On October 26 2013 12:20 Extenz wrote:
I dont see Dear not getting to the Ro4 : (


He's the GSL champion, of course he's going to be incredible.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
October 26 2013 03:27 GMT
#4863
On October 26 2013 12:26 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Group C - Winners Match

kr (P)Dear vs kr (P)Oz

Game 2

Map - Derelict Watcher

00:00 - Oz spawns Top Right Dear Spawns Bottom Left
Fuck man I don't know dick about PvP
BUT LETS GET PUMPED


PUMPED WE GET!

GOGO DEAR!


Hype hype hype!!!
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
October 26 2013 03:27 GMT
#4864
On October 26 2013 12:27 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:25 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:22 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
This is an INCREDIBLE build and gameplay by Dear, incredible micro, amazing macro to keep reinforcing with units, unmatchable decisionmaking... I don't see Oz having any chance in this series, Dear is just looking absolutely unbeatable currently.

1 base play and amazing macro just don't go together... I guess this is sarcasm but it's not remotely clever/funny


Not necessarily. If you can be continuously producing units from existing production and keeping money low on 1 base, it's still pretty good macro. Just because it's a timing attack or an all in doesn't mean that key skills like macro isn't required.

Keeping money low on 1 base low isn't that hard and a progamer should be able to do it comfortably whilst harrassing. Calling it amazing is just ridiculous.

You sound hard to impress.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 03:29:29
October 26 2013 03:28 GMT
#4865
On October 26 2013 12:27 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:27 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:25 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:22 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
This is an INCREDIBLE build and gameplay by Dear, incredible micro, amazing macro to keep reinforcing with units, unmatchable decisionmaking... I don't see Oz having any chance in this series, Dear is just looking absolutely unbeatable currently.

1 base play and amazing macro just don't go together... I guess this is sarcasm but it's not remotely clever/funny


Not necessarily. If you can be continuously producing units from existing production and keeping money low on 1 base, it's still pretty good macro. Just because it's a timing attack or an all in doesn't mean that key skills like macro isn't required.

Keeping money low on 1 base low isn't that hard and a progamer should be able to do it comfortably whilst harrassing. Calling it amazing is just ridiculous.

You sound hard to impress.


He is from south korea after all. A+ still worse than A++ I guess.

//edit: TT again the early nexus for Oz, like Dear's style way more - since I use it myself
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 26 2013 03:29 GMT
#4866
On October 26 2013 12:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Group C - Winners Match

kr (P)Dear vs kr (P)Oz

Game 2

Map - Derelict Watcher

00:00 - Oz spawns Top Right Dear Spawns Bottom Left
Fuck man I don't know dick about PvP
BUT LETS GET PUMPED


01:00 - - so 13 gates
which is a gate on 13 supply not 13 gateways. which would be the greatest build of alll time

02:00 - 2 gas from dear but only one gas from oz....SHENANIGANS
Core from oz
oh then he takes his gas...aight aight

03:00 - So zealot from oz whereas Dear is just happy getting his stalker and skipping

04:00 - MSC from both players
Oz getting his natural up pretty fast

the stalkers are almost avoiding eachother like you avoid the homeless man

05:00 - But instead the attractive charity worker pulls you over and you make eye contact
at that moment you have to talk to them
Stargate for Dear
Robo for Oz
Stalker pressure from Dear..
Zerg for Life
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 26 2013 03:29 GMT
#4867
On October 26 2013 12:22 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:15 StarStruck wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:13 Daogin wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:12 StarStruck wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:04 Daogin wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:02 StarStruck wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:01 Daogin wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:00 StarStruck wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:58 Shellshock wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:57 Daogin wrote:
LOL THAT OUT FIT

reppin Toronto


So many people wear Toronto Blue Jay gear but they don't go to the games or follow the actual team. It's pretty -_-;; it's a good way to win people over, right? Just like saying Canada or Toronto. :V

Can confirm I have a 2 Blue jays hats but hate baseball.


It is what it is. Only Canadian baseball team now anyway, not like that even matters.

They bought every good player and still failed! on the up side I'm still proud of whenever they do good in baseball or basketball regardless of how much I don't care of the sports.


Oh God, I really dislike the bandwagons. Everyone was singing for the fences when we landed that deal with Florida. Sure, we got a lot of good pick-ups in the off-season compared to the rest but I really wouldn't say we have every good player in the game. I love sports.

I love playing all sports, I can't stand watching most of them though.


That's a fair answer. One of my best buds is like that too. Cannot complain about that, but you do watch gaming. In fact, one of them is tagging along with me on Sunday.

Haha I don't mind watching hockey, I am Canadian of course, and I was supposed to go to WCS but my GF's mid-terms just had to be around the same fucking time -.-



Why not go with someone else? You could always meet us there you know.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 26 2013 03:29 GMT
#4868
Good decision by Oz to wait and not use that nexus cannon
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 26 2013 03:30 GMT
#4869
if maru beats duckduck, has protoss won every match with at least one protoss player today?
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 26 2013 03:30 GMT
#4870
On October 26 2013 12:27 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:27 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:25 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:22 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
This is an INCREDIBLE build and gameplay by Dear, incredible micro, amazing macro to keep reinforcing with units, unmatchable decisionmaking... I don't see Oz having any chance in this series, Dear is just looking absolutely unbeatable currently.

1 base play and amazing macro just don't go together... I guess this is sarcasm but it's not remotely clever/funny


Not necessarily. If you can be continuously producing units from existing production and keeping money low on 1 base, it's still pretty good macro. Just because it's a timing attack or an all in doesn't mean that key skills like macro isn't required.

Keeping money low on 1 base low isn't that hard and a progamer should be able to do it comfortably whilst harrassing. Calling it amazing is just ridiculous.

You sound hard to impress.

I'm fine with saying Dear had great micro and decisionmaking in game 1. Spending all his money on warp-ins and not getting supply blocked with that economy is hardly 'amazing'.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 26 2013 03:30 GMT
#4871
I love Red Alert
very illegal and very uncool
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 03:32:11
October 26 2013 03:30 GMT
#4872
On October 26 2013 12:29 lichter wrote:
Good decision by Oz to wait and not use that nexus cannon


still loses way too much... look at the worker difference.

//edit: oh great decision making by Oz there.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10113 Posts
October 26 2013 03:30 GMT
#4873
Dear kill him quick i want to see Maru
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 26 2013 03:31 GMT
#4874
On October 26 2013 12:23 RiZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:22 StarStruck wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:21 stuchiu wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Extenz wrote:
I dont see Dear not getting to the Ro4 : (


Dear is really really good right now. Not surprising.


Yep, I wouldn't mind seeing a Dear versus Trap Final even though I know several people who wouldn't be happy with it, haha.

I think it will be very awkward since Trap need to win WCS S3 to qualify for Blizzcon.


The heartbreaker final.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
October 26 2013 03:31 GMT
#4875
On October 26 2013 12:30 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:27 Daogin wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:27 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:25 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:22 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
This is an INCREDIBLE build and gameplay by Dear, incredible micro, amazing macro to keep reinforcing with units, unmatchable decisionmaking... I don't see Oz having any chance in this series, Dear is just looking absolutely unbeatable currently.

1 base play and amazing macro just don't go together... I guess this is sarcasm but it's not remotely clever/funny


Not necessarily. If you can be continuously producing units from existing production and keeping money low on 1 base, it's still pretty good macro. Just because it's a timing attack or an all in doesn't mean that key skills like macro isn't required.

Keeping money low on 1 base low isn't that hard and a progamer should be able to do it comfortably whilst harrassing. Calling it amazing is just ridiculous.

You sound hard to impress.

I'm fine with saying Dear had great micro and decisionmaking in game 1. Spending all his money on warp-ins and not getting supply blocked with that economy is hardly 'amazing'.


yes we get it. protoss macro is easy.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#4876
datta a boy oz.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#4877
Uncharacteristically bad engagement from Dear.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#4878
yes! go Oz!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#4879
Poll: Recommend Dear vs. Oz game 2?

★★★- Good game (2)
 
29%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
 
29%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
29%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
14%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Oz game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
October 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#4880
Dear D: why u no forcefield earlier ;_;
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Prev 1 242 243 244 245 246 268 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
14:00
Season 2 - May 2026
RotterdaM694
uThermal406
IndyStarCraft 154
SteadfastSC113
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 694
uThermal 406
mouzHeroMarine 237
IndyStarCraft 154
Railgan 124
SteadfastSC 113
BRAT_OK 79
MindelVK 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 67047
EffOrt 1531
Horang2 1270
Shuttle 783
ggaemo 663
Hyuk 596
Rush 307
Soma 274
firebathero 256
Leta 214
[ Show more ]
Pusan 157
PianO 131
Sharp 94
Last 87
actioN 71
ToSsGirL 55
Barracks 51
Sea.KH 51
Hm[arnc] 48
Sacsri 22
Rock 19
zelot 18
IntoTheRainbow 17
Noble 17
yabsab 17
Terrorterran 16
JulyZerg 16
GoRush 12
Icarus 9
Shine 7
Dewaltoss 5
Dota 2
qojqva2013
XaKoH 556
monkeys_forever194
Fuzer 168
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor384
Other Games
singsing2507
B2W.Neo1400
Liquid`RaSZi1138
Beastyqt830
KnowMe228
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV653
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream70
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 5
• iHatsuTV 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV354
League of Legends
• Jankos2106
Upcoming Events
BSL
4h 10m
IPSL
4h 10m
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Patches Events
9h 10m
Replay Cast
18h 10m
Wardi Open
19h 10m
Afreeca Starleague
19h 10m
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 19h
Snow vs Flash
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
1d 20h
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
3 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
3 days
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Escore
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-02
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W6
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.