• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:22
CET 23:22
KST 07:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1812Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ What are former legends up to these days?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1177 users

[WCS Finals] Day 1 Season 3 Grand Finals 2013 - Page 244

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 242 243 244 245 246 268 Next
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 26 2013 03:27 GMT
#4861
On October 26 2013 12:25 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:22 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
This is an INCREDIBLE build and gameplay by Dear, incredible micro, amazing macro to keep reinforcing with units, unmatchable decisionmaking... I don't see Oz having any chance in this series, Dear is just looking absolutely unbeatable currently.

1 base play and amazing macro just don't go together... I guess this is sarcasm but it's not remotely clever/funny


Not necessarily. If you can be continuously producing units from existing production and keeping money low on 1 base, it's still pretty good macro. Just because it's a timing attack or an all in doesn't mean that key skills like macro isn't required.

Keeping money low on 1 base low isn't that hard and a progamer should be able to do it comfortably whilst harrassing. Calling it amazing is just ridiculous.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
October 26 2013 03:27 GMT
#4862
On October 26 2013 12:20 Extenz wrote:
I dont see Dear not getting to the Ro4 : (


He's the GSL champion, of course he's going to be incredible.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
October 26 2013 03:27 GMT
#4863
On October 26 2013 12:26 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Group C - Winners Match

kr (P)Dear vs kr (P)Oz

Game 2

Map - Derelict Watcher

00:00 - Oz spawns Top Right Dear Spawns Bottom Left
Fuck man I don't know dick about PvP
BUT LETS GET PUMPED


PUMPED WE GET!

GOGO DEAR!


Hype hype hype!!!
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
October 26 2013 03:27 GMT
#4864
On October 26 2013 12:27 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:25 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:22 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
This is an INCREDIBLE build and gameplay by Dear, incredible micro, amazing macro to keep reinforcing with units, unmatchable decisionmaking... I don't see Oz having any chance in this series, Dear is just looking absolutely unbeatable currently.

1 base play and amazing macro just don't go together... I guess this is sarcasm but it's not remotely clever/funny


Not necessarily. If you can be continuously producing units from existing production and keeping money low on 1 base, it's still pretty good macro. Just because it's a timing attack or an all in doesn't mean that key skills like macro isn't required.

Keeping money low on 1 base low isn't that hard and a progamer should be able to do it comfortably whilst harrassing. Calling it amazing is just ridiculous.

You sound hard to impress.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8670 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 03:29:29
October 26 2013 03:28 GMT
#4865
On October 26 2013 12:27 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:27 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:25 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:22 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
This is an INCREDIBLE build and gameplay by Dear, incredible micro, amazing macro to keep reinforcing with units, unmatchable decisionmaking... I don't see Oz having any chance in this series, Dear is just looking absolutely unbeatable currently.

1 base play and amazing macro just don't go together... I guess this is sarcasm but it's not remotely clever/funny


Not necessarily. If you can be continuously producing units from existing production and keeping money low on 1 base, it's still pretty good macro. Just because it's a timing attack or an all in doesn't mean that key skills like macro isn't required.

Keeping money low on 1 base low isn't that hard and a progamer should be able to do it comfortably whilst harrassing. Calling it amazing is just ridiculous.

You sound hard to impress.


He is from south korea after all. A+ still worse than A++ I guess.

//edit: TT again the early nexus for Oz, like Dear's style way more - since I use it myself
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 26 2013 03:29 GMT
#4866
On October 26 2013 12:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Group C - Winners Match

kr (P)Dear vs kr (P)Oz

Game 2

Map - Derelict Watcher

00:00 - Oz spawns Top Right Dear Spawns Bottom Left
Fuck man I don't know dick about PvP
BUT LETS GET PUMPED


01:00 - - so 13 gates
which is a gate on 13 supply not 13 gateways. which would be the greatest build of alll time

02:00 - 2 gas from dear but only one gas from oz....SHENANIGANS
Core from oz
oh then he takes his gas...aight aight

03:00 - So zealot from oz whereas Dear is just happy getting his stalker and skipping

04:00 - MSC from both players
Oz getting his natural up pretty fast

the stalkers are almost avoiding eachother like you avoid the homeless man

05:00 - But instead the attractive charity worker pulls you over and you make eye contact
at that moment you have to talk to them
Stargate for Dear
Robo for Oz
Stalker pressure from Dear..
Zerg for Life
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 26 2013 03:29 GMT
#4867
On October 26 2013 12:22 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:15 StarStruck wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:13 Daogin wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:12 StarStruck wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:04 Daogin wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:02 StarStruck wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:01 Daogin wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:00 StarStruck wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:58 Shellshock wrote:
On October 26 2013 11:57 Daogin wrote:
LOL THAT OUT FIT

reppin Toronto


So many people wear Toronto Blue Jay gear but they don't go to the games or follow the actual team. It's pretty -_-;; it's a good way to win people over, right? Just like saying Canada or Toronto. :V

Can confirm I have a 2 Blue jays hats but hate baseball.


It is what it is. Only Canadian baseball team now anyway, not like that even matters.

They bought every good player and still failed! on the up side I'm still proud of whenever they do good in baseball or basketball regardless of how much I don't care of the sports.


Oh God, I really dislike the bandwagons. Everyone was singing for the fences when we landed that deal with Florida. Sure, we got a lot of good pick-ups in the off-season compared to the rest but I really wouldn't say we have every good player in the game. I love sports.

I love playing all sports, I can't stand watching most of them though.


That's a fair answer. One of my best buds is like that too. Cannot complain about that, but you do watch gaming. In fact, one of them is tagging along with me on Sunday.

Haha I don't mind watching hockey, I am Canadian of course, and I was supposed to go to WCS but my GF's mid-terms just had to be around the same fucking time -.-



Why not go with someone else? You could always meet us there you know.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 26 2013 03:29 GMT
#4868
Good decision by Oz to wait and not use that nexus cannon
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 26 2013 03:30 GMT
#4869
if maru beats duckduck, has protoss won every match with at least one protoss player today?
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
October 26 2013 03:30 GMT
#4870
On October 26 2013 12:27 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:27 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:25 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:22 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
This is an INCREDIBLE build and gameplay by Dear, incredible micro, amazing macro to keep reinforcing with units, unmatchable decisionmaking... I don't see Oz having any chance in this series, Dear is just looking absolutely unbeatable currently.

1 base play and amazing macro just don't go together... I guess this is sarcasm but it's not remotely clever/funny


Not necessarily. If you can be continuously producing units from existing production and keeping money low on 1 base, it's still pretty good macro. Just because it's a timing attack or an all in doesn't mean that key skills like macro isn't required.

Keeping money low on 1 base low isn't that hard and a progamer should be able to do it comfortably whilst harrassing. Calling it amazing is just ridiculous.

You sound hard to impress.

I'm fine with saying Dear had great micro and decisionmaking in game 1. Spending all his money on warp-ins and not getting supply blocked with that economy is hardly 'amazing'.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 26 2013 03:30 GMT
#4871
I love Red Alert
very illegal and very uncool
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8670 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 03:32:11
October 26 2013 03:30 GMT
#4872
On October 26 2013 12:29 lichter wrote:
Good decision by Oz to wait and not use that nexus cannon


still loses way too much... look at the worker difference.

//edit: oh great decision making by Oz there.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10099 Posts
October 26 2013 03:30 GMT
#4873
Dear kill him quick i want to see Maru
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 26 2013 03:31 GMT
#4874
On October 26 2013 12:23 RiZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:22 StarStruck wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:21 stuchiu wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Extenz wrote:
I dont see Dear not getting to the Ro4 : (


Dear is really really good right now. Not surprising.


Yep, I wouldn't mind seeing a Dear versus Trap Final even though I know several people who wouldn't be happy with it, haha.

I think it will be very awkward since Trap need to win WCS S3 to qualify for Blizzcon.


The heartbreaker final.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8670 Posts
October 26 2013 03:31 GMT
#4875
On October 26 2013 12:30 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 12:27 Daogin wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:27 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:25 Bagration wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:22 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 26 2013 12:20 Shikyo wrote:
This is an INCREDIBLE build and gameplay by Dear, incredible micro, amazing macro to keep reinforcing with units, unmatchable decisionmaking... I don't see Oz having any chance in this series, Dear is just looking absolutely unbeatable currently.

1 base play and amazing macro just don't go together... I guess this is sarcasm but it's not remotely clever/funny


Not necessarily. If you can be continuously producing units from existing production and keeping money low on 1 base, it's still pretty good macro. Just because it's a timing attack or an all in doesn't mean that key skills like macro isn't required.

Keeping money low on 1 base low isn't that hard and a progamer should be able to do it comfortably whilst harrassing. Calling it amazing is just ridiculous.

You sound hard to impress.

I'm fine with saying Dear had great micro and decisionmaking in game 1. Spending all his money on warp-ins and not getting supply blocked with that economy is hardly 'amazing'.


yes we get it. protoss macro is easy.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#4876
datta a boy oz.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#4877
Uncharacteristically bad engagement from Dear.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#4878
yes! go Oz!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#4879
Poll: Recommend Dear vs. Oz game 2?

★★★- Good game (2)
 
29%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (2)
 
29%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
29%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
14%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs. Oz game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what

Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
October 26 2013 03:32 GMT
#4880
Dear D: why u no forcefield earlier ;_;
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Prev 1 242 243 244 245 246 268 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
21:15
Best Games of SC
SHIN vs sOs
Reynor vs Zoun
herO vs Classic
Solar vs Reynor
PiGStarcraft449
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft449
Nathanias 124
RushiSC 80
ProTech58
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 11724
Dewaltoss 155
ggaemo 98
Shuttle 84
firebathero 77
NaDa 8
Dota 2
PGG 99
syndereN24
League of Legends
C9.Mang0205
Reynor2
Other Games
Grubby5301
tarik_tv4915
FrodaN2428
fl0m842
Beastyqt812
Mlord446
B2W.Neo249
ArmadaUGS104
NarutO 40
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 46
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta27
• Adnapsc2 13
• Reevou 2
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV1010
• Ler103
Other Games
• imaqtpie3747
• Scarra805
• Shiphtur215
• tFFMrPink 15
Upcoming Events
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
OSC
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-29
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.