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On October 21 2013 13:05 Sufinsil wrote: No muta armor. No muta shutting down production again. are you kidding me? he was on 0 muta armor with the way he was engaging marines?
i don't think i can even pretend that's "ballsy," it's just really really bad
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these game are so high level multitaksing everywhere It feels like they'r dance all over the map
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People are overgeneralizing supply. Polt has been ahead all game, it's byul who has been just delaying for time by staying on tier 2 for so long in every game while not teching whatsever. Polt can tell because he's can tell the gas being mined based on number of bases and the huge amount of gas spent on banelings. You can't take on 3-3 bio just staying on tier 2 as zerg. You need to build up a gas bank and get to a surge of tier 3 ultras. Byul overbuilt drones in the beginning and let polt keep trading well negating the drone advantage.
It's gas mined that matters anyways at that point, not drone number.
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On October 21 2013 13:05 Onos wrote: Terran on 20 SCVs for the last 20 minutes. Doesn't matter. Losing his bases multiple times, doesn't matter.
To Polt's credit, he was extremely cost-efficient with his units.
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On October 21 2013 13:06 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2013 13:05 Sufinsil wrote: No muta armor. No muta shutting down production again. are you kidding me? he was on 0 muta armor with the way he was engaging marines? i don't think i can even pretend that's "ballsy," it's just really really bad
I don't think he had 0 armor, mutas seemed fairly beefy when engaging marines head on.
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On October 21 2013 13:05 Waise wrote:total respect to polt for coming back from a defecit, but lol @ terrans acting like it's somehow insane or unexpected for terran to make that kind of comeback in tvz 
Uhmm, terran has been considered the weakest lately, not winning tournaments very much. So this kind of play was very good! Byul played great too.
Really liking this finals!
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On October 21 2013 13:05 Onos wrote: Terran on 20 SCVs for the last 20 minutes. Doesn't matter. Losing his bases multiple times, doesn't matter.
ByuL didnt snipe the orbitals with his muta flock and let Polt continue to get up scrappy bases, while not being able to hold more than 1-2 bases of his own.
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On October 21 2013 13:05 hansonslee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2013 13:03 Oboeman wrote:On October 21 2013 13:03 hansonslee wrote: This is why you need Infestors and T3. Silly ByuL he tried that too! What means Terrans like Polt will kick ByuL's ass >:D If you look at the GSL zergs, they have been using infestors and T3 to stomp the MMMM aggression hard!
GSL Zergs - Soo - won with muta ling bane. DRG - won with muta ling bane. Curious - relied hard on muta ling bane and used map distance on frost to get to T3.
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On October 21 2013 13:05 Onos wrote: Terran on 20 SCVs for the last 20 minutes. Doesn't matter. Losing his bases multiple times, doesn't matter.
Retaking bases everytime he lost one, not losing medivacs + putting zerg in the same situation as you
If zerg can get gas, Marines reign supreme.
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On October 21 2013 13:05 Onos wrote: Terran on 20 SCVs for the last 20 minutes. Doesn't matter. Losing his bases multiple times, doesn't matter. Terran killing off his SCVs and relying mostly on mules in the lategame has been a common strategy for years.
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On October 21 2013 13:04 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2013 13:04 geokilla wrote:Poll: Recommend Polt vs Byul Game 5?Best Game (70) 86% No (6) 7% Yes (5) 6% 81 total votes Your vote: Recommend Polt vs Byul Game 5? (Vote): Best Game (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
Game 5? Well no one is making polls... I don't even know LOL
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Last game, he goes for hive tech units and gets surrounded and obliterated. This game, he goes for lair tech all game but still gets outplayed. Only one option left...
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On October 21 2013 13:05 Waise wrote:total respect to polt for coming back from a defecit, but lol @ terrans acting like it's somehow insane or unexpected for terran to make that kind of comeback in tvz  Well byul never going for ultras I'd say lost him the game since it allowed Polt to just stay on pure marine medivac vm. Unexpected? Well that's past the phase of the game where people generally agree that 4M is really strong(the endless push). Polt just played better in the lategame
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United States23455 Posts
Guys can we focus on how good the games are and not whine about balance please? Thank you
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On October 21 2013 13:06 stuchiu wrote:Play better. There's no gimmicky way to beat Polt in a long series except to play better than him. I have to agree this. You can win Polt, just outplay him, no tricky way in any direction.
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United States23455 Posts
On October 21 2013 13:07 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2013 13:04 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 21 2013 13:04 geokilla wrote:Poll: Recommend Polt vs Byul Game 5?Best Game (70) 86% No (6) 7% Yes (5) 6% 81 total votes Your vote: Recommend Polt vs Byul Game 5? (Vote): Best Game (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
Game 5? Well no one is making polls... I don't even know LOL Well I ANTICIPATE that game 5 will be the best game
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On October 21 2013 13:06 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2013 13:05 Sufinsil wrote: No muta armor. No muta shutting down production again. are you kidding me? he was on 0 muta armor with the way he was engaging marines? i don't think i can even pretend that's "ballsy," it's just really really bad That was definitely a blunder...
Is there such a thing as Zerg and Protoss building armour?
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On October 21 2013 13:06 hansonslee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2013 13:05 Onos wrote: Terran on 20 SCVs for the last 20 minutes. Doesn't matter. Losing his bases multiple times, doesn't matter. To Polt's credit, he was extremely cost-efficient with his units.
Polt had 20 scvs, but Byul had one mining base, sometimes 2. So that's 25~ drones of mining vs 20 scv's.
Cost-efficiency doesn't work like that though, since terran is expected to be more cost-efficient, and zerg can expand easier.
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Polt likes to take a beating early on to enrage him and bring out his true potential. And he does it every single game. When he's down early on, it's actually intentional.
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On October 21 2013 13:06 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2013 13:05 Waise wrote:total respect to polt for coming back from a defecit, but lol @ terrans acting like it's somehow insane or unexpected for terran to make that kind of comeback in tvz  Uhmm, terran has been considered the weakest lately, not winning tournaments very much. So this kind of play was very good! Byul played great too. ok? and that has what to do with the fact that it's fairly common for terrans to use marine production and multitasking to take control of a lategame where both players are struggling to establish bases and zerg is getting spread out across the map? seems you think i'm talking about balance, i'm not. i'm talking about the matchup. terrans make these comebacks frequently because their race is equipped to do so.
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