• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:08
CEST 17:08
KST 00:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo14Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted J188 – Nhà Cái Cá Cược Trực Tuyến Đẳng Cấp Châu Á Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) GSL CK #4 20-21th June Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Data needed
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia {D-2} Late to making 20.06.2026 memorable [p]94718
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10028 users

[Code S] Grand Finals WCS Korea Season 3 2013 - Page 11

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 115 Next
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 19 2013 05:46 GMT
#201
I am too responsible to up the ante.

Or I'd have to premake a fortnight's worth of LR OPs, ewww
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 19 2013 05:47 GMT
#202
contributors pls don't bet a temp ban, just do your signature/team flare or something. last time someone who does stuff was banned there were no LR threads for WCS that day.
Mintie
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia563 Posts
October 19 2013 05:50 GMT
#203
HYPE: Translation of the ThisIsGame Preview preview of the finals!





WCS KR Season 3 Finals – Zerg vs Protoss, Will there be a Royal Roader?
The first SKT Zerg to make a finals, soO versus Dear, dreaming of walking the Royal Road.

The finals of the last season of WCS KR for the year are right in front of us. 1020 days after his debut, Dear has finally made it to his first finals. In the finals, he meets soO who, 1843 days after his debut, will also contest the first finals of his career.

This is a particularly significant final for both players. If Dear is able to win, he becomes the second GSL Royal Roader after Life. soO’s team, SKT1, has produced a lot of finalists but no Zergs. soO will step on to the stage for these finals, aiming to undo the Han (a Korean concept meaning unresolved resentment, unavenged injustice, a collective feeling of oppression or lamentation!) of the SKT1 Zergs.

Dear vs Zerg 66.7%
Last 5 matches vs Zerg L W W W L
soO vs Protoss 63.6%
Last 5 matches vs Protoss L W L W W

[image loading]

On his way to the finals, Dear defeated Supernova, DRG, Trap, Maru and others and showed us incredible skills. In particular, he defeated both Soulkey and Sleep in Group A of the Round of 16 to show his dominance in the PvZ matchup before beating team-mate Trap and the reigning WCS KR champ Maru on his path toward the championship.

Dear has shown strong oracle play in the early game, and soO’s ability to withstand these attacks will play a critical role on the series. Since it’s his first finals, his ability to perform on this stage will also play a critical role.

[image loading]

soO defeated Yongwha, Super and Parting on his path to the finals and showed us his incredible PvZ. After losing in the Ro16 in WCS KR S1, and then again in WCS KR S2, it looked like he might have some trauma about the Ro16 but this season he has been solid and has made it through to the finals.

soO has consistently faced Protoss’s on his way to the finals. In the Ro32, Yongwha and Super was in his group, and then again Super was in his group in the Ro16. In the Ro 8 he had to face yet another Protoss in parting, and after losing the first map he won 3 straight and claimed a dominant score of 3:1.

soO, much like Dear, is in his first finals but seems to constantly be overflowing with confidence, and looked at ease at the media day held on the 17th. soO is showing strength with roach-wars and the late-game, but it will be interesting to see whether he can take this confidence into his play in the finals.

What follows here is an analysis of the maps, in the order that they’ll be played, for the PvZ match up. The earlier maps favour the Protoss, so the map order will favour Dear. Since the maps become Zerg favoured as the series goes on, who wins the first map may have a big bearing on the winner of the series.

Map 1: Frost - Protoss (71.4%) 5 : 2 Zerg (28.6%)

In the first map, Protoss’s have a huge win-rate of 71.4%. soO did lose to Super on this map, but since we don’t have any PvZ’s on this map for Dear, this will likely be a striking clash between the two players. Both players are aware of how much the first map matters, and because of that, this map is likely to be fiercely contested. Because the map is so large, we might see soO’s strong late-game come into play on this map.

Map 2: Akilon Wastes - Protoss (55.3%) 26:21 Zerg (44.7%)

In the 2nd map, Protoss’s are showing a slightly higher win-rate than Zerg’s. However, if you only look at the last 5 PvZ’s, Zergs have won the last 5 straight. This is a map where we see the late-game often, and because of that it’s hard to predict clearly who will win.

Map 3: Polar Night – Protoss 45.5% 5:6 Zerg (54.5%)

Unlike the preceding 2 maps, Zergs have a slightly higher win-rate on this map. Zergs have won the last 3 PvZ’s on this map, which gives soO the edge. soO also defeated Super on this map, while we don’t have any games for Dear.

Map 5: Whirlwind - Protoss (44.6%) 37:46 Zerg (55.4%)

Zergs are doing better than Protoss’s historically on this map, and this doesn’t change if you only look at recent matches. In particular, soO beat Parting in the 4th map to take the series 3:1 in their quarter-final this season, showing that he knows how to win on this map.

Map 5: Yeonsu – Protoss (46.2%) 6: 7 Zerg (53.8%)

Although the win-rate being higher for Zergs seems to favour soO, we don’t have any games for soO on this map. In contrast, Dear has a 2:1 record against Zergs on this map, making a tightly contested game likely.

Map 6: Belshir Vestige – Protoss (70.5%) 31:13 Zerg (29.5%)

We can clearly say that this is a map for Dear. Protoss’s have been downright dominant on this map, and they’ve won the last 9 PvZ’s straight. If the series goes to 6 maps, this is a map that is must-win for Dear.

Map 7: Derelict Watcher – Protoss (41.7%) 5 : 7 Zerg (58.3%)

If the 6th map was for Dear, this one is for soO. If we go to the full 7 maps, soO will have the edge going in to the final game. Derelict Watcher isn’t just good for Zergs overall, Zergs have won the last 4 PvZ’s on this map consecutively.

The finals will be held on the 19th at 7pm at AX Hall.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 19 2013 05:50 GMT
#204
haha that's true. you guys should probably just stick to betting sigs
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
LittleRedBoy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 05:51:58
October 19 2013 05:51 GMT
#205
On October 19 2013 14:46 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 14:37 LittleRedBoy wrote:
On October 19 2013 13:38 lichter wrote:
On October 19 2013 13:37 Gamegene wrote:
it would be funny if the least hyped GSL Final produced the best games.


It probably will!

I suppose I could wager a ban. If soO > Dear temp ban me 2 days


I'll wager a 5 day ban if SoO beats Dear. Anyone care to go higher than that?

ban lengths are fixed. no 5 day, so either 2 day or 1 week


Then I'm doing 1 week. Or if you think I should do a sig I need someone to come up with a good one.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 19 2013 05:53 GMT
#206
On October 19 2013 14:47 Dodgin wrote:
contributors pls don't bet a temp ban, just do your signature/team flare or something. last time someone who does stuff was banned there were no LR threads for WCS that day.


Yes I regretted those two days NovstOrm was banned but he challenged me
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 19 2013 06:02 GMT
#207
Just noticed that soO got the better map for game 7 woot
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 19 2013 06:08 GMT
#208
Wow I'm totally not watching this, but I had to drop by to see how many pages this would get prior to the games. Really shocked at 11 pages already :p

the op is brilliant.

inb4 this somehow turns out to be the new greatest gsl final ever. >_>
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 19 2013 06:13 GMT
#209
I've got 2 days on soO winning! Any takers?
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 19 2013 06:19 GMT
#210
i hope this is the greatest gsl finals ever, i can feel it in my bones
Moderatorlickypiddy
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
October 19 2013 06:37 GMT
#211
if soO wins this i'll change my team logo to SKT1 and my sig to 'I was soO wrong, SKT Zerg all day every day'
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 19 2013 06:40 GMT
#212
Just over 3 hours left until the start and we are still only on page 11 >.>
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 19 2013 06:45 GMT
#213
This is not looking good
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
October 19 2013 06:46 GMT
#214
Hopefully a good finals, no idea who to cheer for :/
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
October 19 2013 06:49 GMT
#215
So are ppl rooting for dear cauz of naniwa??
yo
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 19 2013 06:50 GMT
#216
On October 19 2013 15:49 Killmouse wrote:
So are ppl rooting for dear cauz of naniwa??


Zombie STX ultimate hipsters
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 19 2013 07:01 GMT
#217
I thought it didn't really affect Naniwa's chances that much either way
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 19 2013 07:05 GMT
#218
Sickest banners. Gogo soO!
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
October 19 2013 07:06 GMT
#219
On October 19 2013 15:40 Shellshock wrote:
Just over 3 hours left until the start and we are still only on page 11 >.>

I'd spam more, but I'm afraid of being too obvious about it.

*coughs*
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 19 2013 07:09 GMT
#220
Awwww yeah I gotta feeling its gonna be good! To bad I cant watch damn football!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 115 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
12:00
GSL CK #4 (PTR) - Day 1
Solar vs ClemLIVE!
SHIN 923
IntoTheiNu 452
CranKy Ducklings SOOP257
Rex45
Liquipedia
WardiTV Spring Champion…
11:00
Playoffs
WardiTV1159
TaKeTV 483
TKL 319
IndyStarCraft 178
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SHIN 923
TKL 319
IndyStarCraft 178
Rex 45
BRAT_OK 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 47536
Mini 2416
Horang2 812
Zeus 575
Hyuk 428
firebathero 424
ggaemo 293
actioN 232
BeSt 180
Leta 139
[ Show more ]
Mong 125
Hyun 99
Pusan 58
Movie 49
ToSsGirL 36
910 33
scan(afreeca) 33
Barracks 28
JYJ 20
Aegong 20
JulyZerg 17
Sacsri 16
Shine 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Rock 7
Dota 2
XaKoH 379
420jenkins283
BananaSlamJamma199
Counter-Strike
fl0m7098
byalli464
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor343
Other Games
gofns36933
tarik_tv9592
singsing2438
B2W.Neo924
Mlord563
Lowko528
crisheroes326
DeMusliM70
KnowMe66
Trikslyr37
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV839
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Response 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2522
• Nemesis2113
Counter-Strike
• C_a_k_e 1662
Upcoming Events
IPSL
52m
Bonyth vs Dewalt
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3h 52m
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
8h 52m
WardiTV Spring Champion…
19h 52m
GSL
20h 52m
IPSL
1d
Hawk vs Julia
Patches Events
1d 1h
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 3h
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
1d 8h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 19h
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light HT
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.