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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 19 2013 05:46 GMT
#201
I am too responsible to up the ante.

Or I'd have to premake a fortnight's worth of LR OPs, ewww
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 19 2013 05:47 GMT
#202
contributors pls don't bet a temp ban, just do your signature/team flare or something. last time someone who does stuff was banned there were no LR threads for WCS that day.
Mintie
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia563 Posts
October 19 2013 05:50 GMT
#203
HYPE: Translation of the ThisIsGame Preview preview of the finals!





WCS KR Season 3 Finals – Zerg vs Protoss, Will there be a Royal Roader?
The first SKT Zerg to make a finals, soO versus Dear, dreaming of walking the Royal Road.

The finals of the last season of WCS KR for the year are right in front of us. 1020 days after his debut, Dear has finally made it to his first finals. In the finals, he meets soO who, 1843 days after his debut, will also contest the first finals of his career.

This is a particularly significant final for both players. If Dear is able to win, he becomes the second GSL Royal Roader after Life. soO’s team, SKT1, has produced a lot of finalists but no Zergs. soO will step on to the stage for these finals, aiming to undo the Han (a Korean concept meaning unresolved resentment, unavenged injustice, a collective feeling of oppression or lamentation!) of the SKT1 Zergs.

Dear vs Zerg 66.7%
Last 5 matches vs Zerg L W W W L
soO vs Protoss 63.6%
Last 5 matches vs Protoss L W L W W

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On his way to the finals, Dear defeated Supernova, DRG, Trap, Maru and others and showed us incredible skills. In particular, he defeated both Soulkey and Sleep in Group A of the Round of 16 to show his dominance in the PvZ matchup before beating team-mate Trap and the reigning WCS KR champ Maru on his path toward the championship.

Dear has shown strong oracle play in the early game, and soO’s ability to withstand these attacks will play a critical role on the series. Since it’s his first finals, his ability to perform on this stage will also play a critical role.

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soO defeated Yongwha, Super and Parting on his path to the finals and showed us his incredible PvZ. After losing in the Ro16 in WCS KR S1, and then again in WCS KR S2, it looked like he might have some trauma about the Ro16 but this season he has been solid and has made it through to the finals.

soO has consistently faced Protoss’s on his way to the finals. In the Ro32, Yongwha and Super was in his group, and then again Super was in his group in the Ro16. In the Ro 8 he had to face yet another Protoss in parting, and after losing the first map he won 3 straight and claimed a dominant score of 3:1.

soO, much like Dear, is in his first finals but seems to constantly be overflowing with confidence, and looked at ease at the media day held on the 17th. soO is showing strength with roach-wars and the late-game, but it will be interesting to see whether he can take this confidence into his play in the finals.

What follows here is an analysis of the maps, in the order that they’ll be played, for the PvZ match up. The earlier maps favour the Protoss, so the map order will favour Dear. Since the maps become Zerg favoured as the series goes on, who wins the first map may have a big bearing on the winner of the series.

Map 1: Frost - Protoss (71.4%) 5 : 2 Zerg (28.6%)

In the first map, Protoss’s have a huge win-rate of 71.4%. soO did lose to Super on this map, but since we don’t have any PvZ’s on this map for Dear, this will likely be a striking clash between the two players. Both players are aware of how much the first map matters, and because of that, this map is likely to be fiercely contested. Because the map is so large, we might see soO’s strong late-game come into play on this map.

Map 2: Akilon Wastes - Protoss (55.3%) 26:21 Zerg (44.7%)

In the 2nd map, Protoss’s are showing a slightly higher win-rate than Zerg’s. However, if you only look at the last 5 PvZ’s, Zergs have won the last 5 straight. This is a map where we see the late-game often, and because of that it’s hard to predict clearly who will win.

Map 3: Polar Night – Protoss 45.5% 5:6 Zerg (54.5%)

Unlike the preceding 2 maps, Zergs have a slightly higher win-rate on this map. Zergs have won the last 3 PvZ’s on this map, which gives soO the edge. soO also defeated Super on this map, while we don’t have any games for Dear.

Map 5: Whirlwind - Protoss (44.6%) 37:46 Zerg (55.4%)

Zergs are doing better than Protoss’s historically on this map, and this doesn’t change if you only look at recent matches. In particular, soO beat Parting in the 4th map to take the series 3:1 in their quarter-final this season, showing that he knows how to win on this map.

Map 5: Yeonsu – Protoss (46.2%) 6: 7 Zerg (53.8%)

Although the win-rate being higher for Zergs seems to favour soO, we don’t have any games for soO on this map. In contrast, Dear has a 2:1 record against Zergs on this map, making a tightly contested game likely.

Map 6: Belshir Vestige – Protoss (70.5%) 31:13 Zerg (29.5%)

We can clearly say that this is a map for Dear. Protoss’s have been downright dominant on this map, and they’ve won the last 9 PvZ’s straight. If the series goes to 6 maps, this is a map that is must-win for Dear.

Map 7: Derelict Watcher – Protoss (41.7%) 5 : 7 Zerg (58.3%)

If the 6th map was for Dear, this one is for soO. If we go to the full 7 maps, soO will have the edge going in to the final game. Derelict Watcher isn’t just good for Zergs overall, Zergs have won the last 4 PvZ’s on this map consecutively.

The finals will be held on the 19th at 7pm at AX Hall.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 19 2013 05:50 GMT
#204
haha that's true. you guys should probably just stick to betting sigs
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LittleRedBoy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 05:51:58
October 19 2013 05:51 GMT
#205
On October 19 2013 14:46 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 14:37 LittleRedBoy wrote:
On October 19 2013 13:38 lichter wrote:
On October 19 2013 13:37 Gamegene wrote:
it would be funny if the least hyped GSL Final produced the best games.


It probably will!

I suppose I could wager a ban. If soO > Dear temp ban me 2 days


I'll wager a 5 day ban if SoO beats Dear. Anyone care to go higher than that?

ban lengths are fixed. no 5 day, so either 2 day or 1 week


Then I'm doing 1 week. Or if you think I should do a sig I need someone to come up with a good one.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 19 2013 05:53 GMT
#206
On October 19 2013 14:47 Dodgin wrote:
contributors pls don't bet a temp ban, just do your signature/team flare or something. last time someone who does stuff was banned there were no LR threads for WCS that day.


Yes I regretted those two days NovstOrm was banned but he challenged me
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 19 2013 06:02 GMT
#207
Just noticed that soO got the better map for game 7 woot
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 19 2013 06:08 GMT
#208
Wow I'm totally not watching this, but I had to drop by to see how many pages this would get prior to the games. Really shocked at 11 pages already :p

the op is brilliant.

inb4 this somehow turns out to be the new greatest gsl final ever. >_>
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 19 2013 06:13 GMT
#209
I've got 2 days on soO winning! Any takers?
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 19 2013 06:19 GMT
#210
i hope this is the greatest gsl finals ever, i can feel it in my bones
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
October 19 2013 06:37 GMT
#211
if soO wins this i'll change my team logo to SKT1 and my sig to 'I was soO wrong, SKT Zerg all day every day'
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 19 2013 06:40 GMT
#212
Just over 3 hours left until the start and we are still only on page 11 >.>
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 19 2013 06:45 GMT
#213
This is not looking good
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
October 19 2013 06:46 GMT
#214
Hopefully a good finals, no idea who to cheer for :/
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
October 19 2013 06:49 GMT
#215
So are ppl rooting for dear cauz of naniwa??
yo
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 19 2013 06:50 GMT
#216
On October 19 2013 15:49 Killmouse wrote:
So are ppl rooting for dear cauz of naniwa??


Zombie STX ultimate hipsters
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 19 2013 07:01 GMT
#217
I thought it didn't really affect Naniwa's chances that much either way
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
October 19 2013 07:05 GMT
#218
Sickest banners. Gogo soO!
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
October 19 2013 07:06 GMT
#219
On October 19 2013 15:40 Shellshock wrote:
Just over 3 hours left until the start and we are still only on page 11 >.>

I'd spam more, but I'm afraid of being too obvious about it.

*coughs*
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 19 2013 07:09 GMT
#220
Awwww yeah I gotta feeling its gonna be good! To bad I cant watch damn football!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
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