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[ATC] Liquid vs WW, Week 6, Season 2

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SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 18:53:23
October 17 2013 14:48 GMT
#1
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[image loading] TL Pro Preview: Liquid vs Western Wolves in Acer Teamstory Cup 2





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Thursday, Oct 17 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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The old versus the new!
Can the newcomers beat Team Liquid and cement their spot?
Or will the established team equalize with Western Wolves in terms of wins and losses?


(Z)Ret <Akilon Wastes> (Z)check
<Derelict Watcher>
<Polar Night>
<Star Station>
<Newkirk Precinct TE>
<Bel\'shir Vestige>
<Yeonsu>
<Frost>
<Whirlwind>







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+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(Z)Ret <Akilon Wastes> (Z)check

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(Z)Snute <Derelict Watcher> (Z)check

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(Z)Zenio <Polar Night> (Z)check

+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
(P)HerO <Star Station> (Z)check

+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
(P)HerO <Newkirk Precinct TE> (T)Sting

+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
(P)HerO <Bel\'shir Vestige> (P)San♠

+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
(P)HerO <Yeonsu> (P)Daisy

+ Show Spoiler [Game 8] +
(P)HerO <Frost> (P)San♠*

+ Show Spoiler [Game 9] +
(P)HerO* <Whirlwind> (P)San♠*


+ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +

(Z)Ret <Akilon Wastes> (Z)check
(Z)Snute <Derelict Watcher> (Z)check
(Z)Zenio <Polar Night> (Z)check
(P)HerO <Star Station> (Z)check
(P)HerO <Newkirk Precinct TE> (T)Sting
(P)HerO <Bel\'shir Vestige> (P)San♠
(P)HerO <Yeonsu> (P)Daisy
(P)HerO <Frost> (P)San♠*
(P)HerO* <Whirlwind> (P)San♠*

4-5
finished


The online gods check and the winterproof San secure the win for Western Wolves!




       * = ace. Last player on team can be chosen from the entire lineup, even if the player was eliminated before.
       ♠ = joker. Player that is not part of the team's regular roster. Only one joker can be chosen per season who is eligible to play the entire duration of the season.
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 14:50:28
October 17 2013 14:48 GMT
#2
Poll: Head: Who do you think will win?

Team Liquid (5)
 
63%

Western Wolves (3)
 
38%

8 total votes

Your vote: Head: Who do you think will win?

(Vote): Team Liquid
(Vote): Western Wolves



Poll: Heart: Who do you want to win?

Team Liquid (8)
 
67%

Western Wolves (4)
 
33%

12 total votes

Your vote: Heart: Who do you want to win?

(Vote): Team Liquid
(Vote): Western Wolves


lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 17 2013 14:51 GMT
#3
Magic :O
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
October 17 2013 14:58 GMT
#4
I have no idea which team gonna win. ._.

Btw, Millenium will stream the first hour of this match.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12476 Posts
October 17 2013 14:59 GMT
#5
WW line up is actually stronger than I thought, especially with San as a joker.
I think they will put up a great fight against TL
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 17 2013 15:03 GMT
#6
On October 17 2013 23:58 Aeromi wrote:
I have no idea which team gonna win. ._.

Btw, Millenium will stream the first hour of this match.

1 hour eh? that's what we get from losing OGamingTV over them :/
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
October 17 2013 15:05 GMT
#7
On October 18 2013 00:03 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:58 Aeromi wrote:
I have no idea which team gonna win. ._.

Btw, Millenium will stream the first hour of this match.

1 hour eh? that's what we get from losing OGamingTV over them :/

They want to cast Millenium vs Fnatic in CCL.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 17 2013 15:40 GMT
#8
I think Check will work some magic today.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
October 17 2013 15:41 GMT
#9
Starters not announced yet?
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 17 2013 15:48 GMT
#10
San vs San Fan ace match please
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 17 2013 15:53 GMT
#11
Nathanias with TotalBiscuit, gonna be fun
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 17 2013 15:57 GMT
#12
HerO all kill please!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
October 17 2013 16:08 GMT
#13
On October 18 2013 00:53 Yhamm wrote:
Nathanias with TotalBiscuit, gonna be fun


On October 18 2013 00:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
HerO all kill please!



With the lineup WW has, I feel it's definitely a possibility that might actually happen.. Both HerO's PvT and PvP is great atm, and their only Zergs are Ziktomini and Check, who I feel HerO should be able to overcome. But I think TL will field TLO and Ret before considering HerO.
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 17 2013 16:17 GMT
#14
Holy check!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
October 17 2013 16:17 GMT
#15
At least Ret got more drones than Check.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 17 2013 16:17 GMT
#16
Only drones, no gas D:
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 17 2013 16:18 GMT
#17
On October 18 2013 01:17 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Only drones, no gas D:


Do you guys remember Spanishiwa?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
October 17 2013 16:19 GMT
#18
Oh damn, TTaeja is sick. This could be interesting.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 17 2013 16:20 GMT
#19
On October 18 2013 01:19 MosART wrote:
Oh damn, TTaeja is sick. This could be interesting.


Hmm, I recall hearing that he was sick during his Ro16 group for WCS (which was also why he forfeited Challenger). But it's strange to see him playing on Tuesday's ATC match.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
October 17 2013 16:33 GMT
#20
Check is pretty good
Hello
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
October 17 2013 16:34 GMT
#21
Zenio next.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 17 2013 16:34 GMT
#22
Check yourself before you wreck yourself
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
October 17 2013 16:35 GMT
#23
So. Another Zerg when Check just beat two good Zergs? Or HerO?
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 17 2013 16:35 GMT
#24
lose a ZvZ, send an other Zerg. lose too? send an other Zerg again... I will never understand that
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
October 17 2013 16:35 GMT
#25
Time to send in TLO for TL FZ3.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 17 2013 16:38 GMT
#26
On October 18 2013 01:35 Yhamm wrote:
lose a ZvZ, send an other Zerg. lose too? send an other Zerg again... I will never understand that


Liquid is actually really Zerg heavy. With Taeja gone, they are basically just a team of Zergs and Hero
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
October 17 2013 16:39 GMT
#27
Looks like it's going to be 3 - 0 to WW based on how Check's played today.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 17 2013 16:40 GMT
#28
Zenio about to all kill
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
October 17 2013 16:42 GMT
#29
On October 18 2013 01:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Zenio about to all kill

No.
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 17 2013 16:43 GMT
#30
On October 18 2013 01:38 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 01:35 Yhamm wrote:
lose a ZvZ, send an other Zerg. lose too? send an other Zerg again... I will never understand that


Liquid is actually really Zerg heavy. With Taeja gone, they are basically just a team of Zergs and Hero

well, maybe they should think about recruiting
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
October 17 2013 16:44 GMT
#31
So, that went as expected
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 17 2013 16:44 GMT
#32
aw, nooooo.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
October 17 2013 16:44 GMT
#33
HerO next.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 17 2013 16:44 GMT
#34
Well, or not haha. HerO all kill please.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 17 2013 16:44 GMT
#35
On October 18 2013 01:43 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 01:38 Bagration wrote:
On October 18 2013 01:35 Yhamm wrote:
lose a ZvZ, send an other Zerg. lose too? send an other Zerg again... I will never understand that


Liquid is actually really Zerg heavy. With Taeja gone, they are basically just a team of Zergs and Hero

well, maybe they should think about recruiting


Racial depth has never been a top concern for Liquid.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
October 17 2013 16:45 GMT
#36
Finally! Time for the WinterToss!
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 17 2013 16:45 GMT
#37
I said it before, but I'll say it again:

Check yourself before you wreck yourself!


Check all kill?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 17 2013 16:48 GMT
#38
Holy check
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
October 17 2013 16:49 GMT
#39
Time to Check my glasses because I can't believe what I'm seeing.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 16:58:22
October 17 2013 16:57 GMT
#40
7gate +1 after stargate, HerO loves it on this map

naaaaw a robo
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 17 2013 17:02 GMT
#41
and right when hero starts allkilling i have to go.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 17 2013 17:03 GMT
#42
its nice to see a few people starting to pick up roaches over drones finally. Sadly since it is Koreans I doubt it is because I was talking about this for over 2 years now.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 17 2013 17:06 GMT
#43
Damn, I was really hoping for a nydus there
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
October 17 2013 17:08 GMT
#44
Sting next.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 17 2013 17:09 GMT
#45
Wow, I haven't heard the name sting for a while now.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 17 2013 17:12 GMT
#46
On October 18 2013 02:09 ThomasjServo wrote:
Wow, I haven't heard the name sting for a while now.

yeah, he just made a 4 kills last week
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 17 2013 17:13 GMT
#47
On October 18 2013 02:12 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:09 ThomasjServo wrote:
Wow, I haven't heard the name sting for a while now.

yeah, he just made a 4 kills last week

That is impressive, I remember that little sting-splosion but glad to hear he is still around.
Bocian
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland259 Posts
October 17 2013 17:19 GMT
#48
When did Zenio won a match in team league? I can't recall ony match he won recently
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 17 2013 17:21 GMT
#49
On October 18 2013 02:19 Bocian wrote:
When did Zenio won a match in team league? I can't recall ony match he won recently


Last win was vs Dayshi 2 days ago, then lost vs ForGG. But yeah, doesn't really seem in form atm.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
October 17 2013 17:21 GMT
#50
On October 18 2013 02:19 Bocian wrote:
When did Zenio won a match in team league? I can't recall ony match he won recently

2 days ago vs Dayshi.
Hello
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 17 2013 17:25 GMT
#51
On October 18 2013 02:21 Keeemy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:19 Bocian wrote:
When did Zenio won a match in team league? I can't recall ony match he won recently

2 days ago vs Dayshi.

With a SH vs Bio build nonetheless.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 17 2013 17:29 GMT
#52
Getting supply blocked when your starport just finished is probably the worst timing for it, delaying medivac(s) is horrible. Not as important vs phoenix play though.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 17 2013 17:31 GMT
#53
On October 18 2013 02:29 DJHelium wrote:
Getting supply blocked when your starport just finished is probably the worst timing for it, delaying medivac(s) is horrible. Not as important vs phoenix play though.

HerO did forced a similar bit against Hack on Bel'Shir last night taking out the reactor on the Starport. Really helped him salvage a opener his opponent was well prepared for.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 17 2013 17:32 GMT
#54
On October 18 2013 02:31 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:29 DJHelium wrote:
Getting supply blocked when your starport just finished is probably the worst timing for it, delaying medivac(s) is horrible. Not as important vs phoenix play though.

HerO did forced a similar bit against Hack on Bel'Shir last night taking out the reactor on the Starport. Really helped him salvage a opener his opponent was well prepared for.


Haven't seen the games yet, were they good?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 17:34:09
October 17 2013 17:33 GMT
#55
On October 18 2013 02:32 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 02:31 ThomasjServo wrote:
On October 18 2013 02:29 DJHelium wrote:
Getting supply blocked when your starport just finished is probably the worst timing for it, delaying medivac(s) is horrible. Not as important vs phoenix play though.

HerO did forced a similar bit against Hack on Bel'Shir last night taking out the reactor on the Starport. Really helped him salvage a opener his opponent was well prepared for.


Haven't seen the games yet, were they good?

I enjoyed them, I would definitely find the LR from WCS NA last night, they were worth watching. Hack being just about the only Terran not going with a fast 3rd CC creats some interesting scenarios. HyuN vs. Crank was also entertaining especially the Frost match
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 17:37:14
October 17 2013 17:34 GMT
#56
Sting totally misreading this game, assuming HerO would take the third more to the middle. Don't think HerO can lose this now, unless a big herpderp.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
October 17 2013 17:38 GMT
#57
so i guess now its time for san and pvp hero out.
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
October 17 2013 17:38 GMT
#58
Nice Edwin Starr reference from TB there ^^

HerO keeps stomping!
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
October 17 2013 17:40 GMT
#59
Let's go HerO! Clean it up!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 17 2013 17:45 GMT
#60
Team HerO?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 17 2013 17:57 GMT
#61
Exciting game! HerO's play is so brilliant!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 18:04:58
October 17 2013 17:59 GMT
#62
Daaaaamn, that was a sweet PvP

Have to say something about the Dark Shrine being a coinflip - it's not. Dark Shrine is a viable tech option in midgame PvP now, whether there's observers + cannons or not. It's basically the harassment route over the immediately to deathball army one. Both are viable. The idea behind the Dark Shrine is to make it hard for your opponent to spread himself out and be on the map. Combined with zealots to snipe cannons it forces your opponent to stay at home. That's what the Dark Shrine is for. Basically like mutas in PvZ. If you need them defensively you can morph archons (not in this case of course since HerO already had a templar archives). It works even better against players who switch from something into colossus tech because that robo will be busy pumping out colossi, not detection and nobody has ever made a random midgame oracle.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
October 17 2013 18:00 GMT
#63
Hero and his sexy engagements.
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 18:03:51
October 17 2013 18:01 GMT
#64
SuperHerO is on today! The all kill is nigh..
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 17 2013 18:14 GMT
#65
So HerO is pretty good at this game.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 17 2013 18:14 GMT
#66
Getting a finished twilight council scouted is so so so painful. Simple 3gate robo expand beats everything it could be
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
October 17 2013 18:15 GMT
#67
I guess I need to get my winter clothes out of storage.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 17 2013 18:22 GMT
#68
TB your phone is ringing!
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 17 2013 18:24 GMT
#69
On October 18 2013 02:02 75 wrote:
and right when hero starts allkilling i have to go.

and i come back to see the end of his streak, hopefully
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 17 2013 18:28 GMT
#70
When there are no Team TaeJa there is Team HerO.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 17 2013 18:32 GMT
#71
nice game
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
October 17 2013 18:32 GMT
#72
Damn, so close...
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
October 17 2013 18:33 GMT
#73
That must feel so bittersweet for HerO. So close to the allkill..
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 17 2013 18:33 GMT
#74
MANZENITH!

I wish it was easier to see what units belong to which player. I watch on a small tablet and have no clue what's going on in big fights
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 17 2013 18:33 GMT
#75
they can revive hero now, right?
i want to see a rematch
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 18:36:01
October 17 2013 18:35 GMT
#76
Disregard me
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 17 2013 18:36 GMT
#77
On October 18 2013 03:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
They could even play HerO twice if they revive him and then play him in the ace match

Only ace revives exist now, do not forget.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 17 2013 18:37 GMT
#78
On October 18 2013 03:36 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 03:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
They could even play HerO twice if they revive him and then play him in the ace match

Only ace revives exist now, do not forget.


Snipe edited you, I win!

Besides it's 4-4 anyway
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 17 2013 18:40 GMT
#79
On October 18 2013 03:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 03:36 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 18 2013 03:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
They could even play HerO twice if they revive him and then play him in the ace match

Only ace revives exist now, do not forget.


Snipe edited you, I win!

Besides it's 4-4 anyway

I snipe quoted though.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
October 17 2013 18:44 GMT
#80
Damn. :/
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
October 17 2013 18:44 GMT
#81
That was a BO loss.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 17 2013 18:45 GMT
#82
TT
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
October 17 2013 18:45 GMT
#83
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 17 2013 18:45 GMT
#84
Nooooo HerO deserved that all kill D:
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 17 2013 18:45 GMT
#85
San is such a beast online lol
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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
October 17 2013 18:46 GMT
#86
Oh man, San!!! Sad for HerO D:
jjakji fan
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
October 17 2013 18:46 GMT
#87
Damn. Too bad, HerO, he was so close.. Grats WW and San.
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 18:48:28
October 17 2013 18:48 GMT
#88
wow such a close series... WW very very likely at the playoffs now!
They won the majority of the matches this season with 5/9. That should be sufficient
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
October 17 2013 18:48 GMT
#89
Anyone else thinks this joker rule is kinda retarded?

WW only won because of San, who is not even part of the team. Otherwise Liquid would have won easily...
Kinda beats the meaning of a clan war.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 17 2013 18:50 GMT
#90
On October 18 2013 03:48 Caladan wrote:
Anyone else thinks this joker rule is kinda retarded?

WW only won because of San, who is not even part of the team. Otherwise Liquid would have won easily...
Kinda beats the meaning of a clan war.

not this again...
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Jayp
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Argentina116 Posts
October 17 2013 18:56 GMT
#91
On October 18 2013 03:48 Caladan wrote:
Anyone else thinks this joker rule is kinda retarded?

WW only won because of San, who is not even part of the team. Otherwise Liquid would have won easily...
Kinda beats the meaning of a clan war.


Because Check didn't get 3-0 before being defeated by Hero, obviously San got 5 all by himself.... Joker rule helps teams who need an extra player.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 17 2013 18:57 GMT
#92
On October 18 2013 03:48 Caladan wrote:
Anyone else thinks this joker rule is kinda retarded?

WW only won because of San, who is not even part of the team. Otherwise Liquid would have won easily...
Kinda beats the meaning of a clan war.


If a team doesn't like the joker rule, don't join the league. Simple as that. If you don't like it, don't watch.

Personally I love it, gives players on smaller/lesser known teams a shot at competing, as well as helping smaller teams have a solid roster against big teams. So you're right, San did help WW beat Liquid, obviously. It's not a bad thing.

강초원 ‏@SC2San 2m
I carry Team WW to Germany #ATC
Win 5:4 vs Team Liquid Thanks for cheer~
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Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 19:04:00
October 17 2013 19:00 GMT
#93
On October 18 2013 03:50 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 03:48 Caladan wrote:
Anyone else thinks this joker rule is kinda retarded?

WW only won because of San, who is not even part of the team. Otherwise Liquid would have won easily...
Kinda beats the meaning of a clan war.

not this again...


Did not know this was discussed before, sorry. I'm not a regular viewer of this team league. Just stopped by today and watched and felt this kinda strange...

Should probably just make a team of some diamond players and then pick Innovation as a Joker. :p
It's a nice rule to fill up teams, that's good, but the Joker shouldn't be the by far best player of a team...
That's like in football (soccer) if some 2nd league German team took part in Champion's League and chose Messi as his Joker. :D
But that's just my opinion.

But as this topic was obviously discussed already... nevermind.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
October 17 2013 19:07 GMT
#94
Joker rule is bad when popular players lose. You should know how these threads go by now
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 17 2013 19:12 GMT
#95
I wonder what genius on western wolves realized that San would be perfect for this team league.
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Jayp
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Argentina116 Posts
October 17 2013 19:13 GMT
#96
On October 18 2013 04:07 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Joker rule is bad when popular players lose. You should know how these threads go by now


This^

See now if EG or TL used a joker this wouldn't be the case.
Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
October 17 2013 19:24 GMT
#97
On October 18 2013 04:12 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder what genius on western wolves realized that San would be perfect for this team league.


Sting and San go out drinking together all the time, this was the main motivation! If you can out drink a wolf, you can play Starcraft with them. Thems the rules.
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
October 17 2013 19:36 GMT
#98
I think its a good rule so teams with only 3-4 players are still able to participate and dont run out of players. Also with scheduling its easier, so if one player is missing, then the team can still compete.

for the players its good too because a lot of teams actually have less than 4 players on their roster. So even those get a chance to participate like Dimaga, Tod, Major or from last season Socke and Stardust. i think Grubby played in the qualifier too for some team..

If sc2 was bigger and teams had more money to have more player on their roster that rule wouldnt be necessary. But as it is.. we have to work with what we've got :D

But ATC really grows on me. My favorite sc2 event to follow at the moment.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 19:42:53
October 17 2013 19:42 GMT
#99
look what happens if you field only and all koreans.... you win!

...


just kidding....
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 19:46:37
October 17 2013 19:46 GMT
#100
On October 18 2013 04:24 Tidus Mino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 04:12 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder what genius on western wolves realized that San would be perfect for this team league.


Sting and San go out drinking together all the time, this was the main motivation! If you can out drink a wolf, you can play Starcraft with them. Thems the rules.


Yellow/Copenhagen/Western_wolves.Fruitdealer incoming.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 17 2013 19:49 GMT
#101
On October 18 2013 04:24 Tidus Mino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 04:12 stuchiu wrote:
I wonder what genius on western wolves realized that San would be perfect for this team league.


Sting and San go out drinking together all the time, this was the main motivation! If you can out drink a wolf, you can play Starcraft with them. Thems the rules.

wow I almost thought I couldn't like San any more. Boy would I have been wrong
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 17 2013 20:28 GMT
#102
Western Wolves are looking so solid this season.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
FLew-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada13 Posts
October 18 2013 01:22 GMT
#103
where do i find the vods?
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
October 18 2013 01:52 GMT
#104
Kind of ironic that Western Wolves' joker is the one winning their critical games.
FetusThrower
Profile Joined August 2013
United States50 Posts
October 19 2013 13:55 GMT
#105
On October 18 2013 10:52 Battousai13 wrote:
Kind of ironic that Western Wolves' joker is the one winning their critical games.

By critical, you mean the ace matches? Eh.

The entire team has proven themselves, really. Daisy and Sting are definitely doing quite well lately, and obviously Check is someone you should never underestimate.
{~Ever gotten so mad you could just throw babies?~} - Frequent twitch viewer/web personality with "sub-bronze" SC2 analysis
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 19 2013 13:57 GMT
#106
On October 18 2013 05:28 Bagration wrote:
Western Wolves are looking so solid this season.

I prefer to call them "Wolves" in ATC considering how valuable San is
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 19 2013 14:18 GMT
#107
On October 18 2013 10:52 Battousai13 wrote:
Kind of ironic that Western Wolves' joker is the one winning their critical games.


Well, that is what a "joker" is for, don't you agree?
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
October 19 2013 14:25 GMT
#108
i guess nathanias has forgotten to upload the vods to youtube
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 19 2013 14:30 GMT
#109
On October 19 2013 23:25 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
i guess nathanias has forgotten to upload the vods to youtube

From the LiquidHerO fanclub
On October 19 2013 11:55 Nathanias wrote:
Yeah sorry about the VoD thing, I really don't like how bad Twitch's system for viewing them is, and they generally lag so I push them to YT as fast as I can. Sadly I became rather ill after casting yesterday and haven't had the time, and then reinstalled windows today. I promise I'm on it as soon as I can!!

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