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[GSTL] Round 1 AZUBU vs SouL Season 2 2013 - Page 12

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BuzzKillington
Profile Joined September 2013
United States47 Posts
October 03 2013 10:41 GMT
#221
If their head coach Kim was there, Dear will be whipped to tears.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 03 2013 10:42 GMT
#222
On October 03 2013 19:40 Vorenius wrote:
The manner nexi were indeed stupid but I doubt those 1200 minerals would have won him the game regardless.

Symbol had a 4k bank and Dear lost all his tech units. Stalkers and zealots lose to pretty much any combination of lings/roaches/hydras/infestors


I think he could've won if he didn't engage there, but instead backed off and remade tech units. Dumping those minerals into warp prism harass would buy him so much time!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
October 03 2013 10:42 GMT
#223
why pauses inbetween games are sooooo long? Can't find any logical reason.

Games are already boring
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 03 2013 10:42 GMT
#224
On October 03 2013 19:42 saddaromma wrote:
why pauses inbetween games are sooooo long? Can't find any logical reason.

Games are already boring


If you don't like the games or the pauses, I think you should be watching something else!

Personally I'm in it for the breaks.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 03 2013 10:42 GMT
#225
On October 03 2013 19:40 Vorenius wrote:
The manner nexi were indeed stupid but I doubt those 1200 minerals would have won him the game regardless.

Symbol had a 4k bank and Dear lost all his tech units. Stalkers and zealots lose to pretty much any combination of lings/roaches/hydras/infestors

4k bank but like 800 gas, if he didn't morph those archons he would have had more storms, symbol couldn't have really killed him so both would have build back up again it was kinda even.
Moderatorlickypiddy
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 03 2013 10:42 GMT
#226
Jungwon Chae ‏@GSL_Chae 1m
Dear is nominated Firebathero award! #GSTL
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
October 03 2013 10:43 GMT
#227
On October 03 2013 19:42 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 19:42 saddaromma wrote:
why pauses inbetween games are sooooo long? Can't find any logical reason.

Games are already boring


If you don't like the games or the pauses, I think you should be watching something else!

Personally I'm in it for the breaks.


A true Proleague fan!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 10:43:53
October 03 2013 10:43 GMT
#228
On October 03 2013 19:39 DJHelium wrote:
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On October 03 2013 19:38 DarkLordOlli wrote:
We need someone using every mule offensively all game long and winning. Innovation needs to do it against some foreigner zerg or smth


Open CC first, use first energy from both CC to scan and drop manner mule.

Actually I'm gonna do that on my NA account, MMR should be low enough.


You could probably beat NA diamond zergs, they're pretty bad

New strat, freak them out with manner muling, make them overreact and build units, go mech behind it because mineral/gas ratio is more even than with bio so mules not as important

legit strat
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
MrLightning
Profile Joined September 2013
306 Posts
October 03 2013 10:43 GMT
#229
Chance of winning is 50/50 for both players. I guess hyvaa 0 - 1 Symbol.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
October 03 2013 10:43 GMT
#230
On October 03 2013 19:42 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 19:42 saddaromma wrote:
why pauses inbetween games are sooooo long? Can't find any logical reason.

Games are already boring


If you don't like the games or the pauses, I think you should be watching something else!

Personally I'm in it for the breaks.

Is it because they want us to take a break and watch smth else?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 03 2013 10:44 GMT
#231
This could be interesting. Symbol is better in ZvZ, but Hyvaa is tricky
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
October 03 2013 10:44 GMT
#232
On October 03 2013 19:42 saddaromma wrote:
why pauses inbetween games are sooooo long? Can't find any logical reason.

Games are already boring

They are trying to convince you to spend your time on something else.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
October 03 2013 10:44 GMT
#233
On October 03 2013 19:42 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 19:40 Vorenius wrote:
The manner nexi were indeed stupid but I doubt those 1200 minerals would have won him the game regardless.

Symbol had a 4k bank and Dear lost all his tech units. Stalkers and zealots lose to pretty much any combination of lings/roaches/hydras/infestors


I think he could've won if he didn't engage there, but instead backed off and remade tech units. Dumping those minerals into warp prism harass would buy him so much time!

He would have won if he kept playing. But he basically stopped trying and wanted to manner nexus before Symbol left, and then just warp-in more stalkers to close the game. He had plenty of time to remake tech units, or pull back and harass the third or make a warp prism... or do basically anything except 4 manner nexus and warping in just stalkers and attacking
@QxGDarkCell ._.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 03 2013 10:45 GMT
#234
How can Choya NOT be #1 protoss!?!?

I bet you guys thought voting for him as well as the lesser protoss was a good idea. Go redo it NAUW!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
October 03 2013 10:45 GMT
#235
YEESSS Aphrodite!!!
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 03 2013 10:46 GMT
#236
On October 03 2013 19:45 DJHelium wrote:
How can Choya NOT be #1 protoss!?!?

I bet you guys thought voting for him as well as the lesser protoss was a good idea. Go redo it NAUW!


He's gonna show us a completely new strategy, he calls it the "4 gate"

wonder what that's all about
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 03 2013 10:46 GMT
#237
On October 03 2013 19:43 saddaromma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 19:42 DJHelium wrote:
On October 03 2013 19:42 saddaromma wrote:
why pauses inbetween games are sooooo long? Can't find any logical reason.

Games are already boring


If you don't like the games or the pauses, I think you should be watching something else!

Personally I'm in it for the breaks.

Is it because they want us to take a break and watch smth else?

get out.
Moderatorlickypiddy
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 03 2013 10:46 GMT
#238
Aphrodite #4 Terran, suck it Ryung
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
October 03 2013 10:46 GMT
#239
On October 03 2013 19:44 Dark.Carnival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 19:42 DJHelium wrote:
On October 03 2013 19:40 Vorenius wrote:
The manner nexi were indeed stupid but I doubt those 1200 minerals would have won him the game regardless.

Symbol had a 4k bank and Dear lost all his tech units. Stalkers and zealots lose to pretty much any combination of lings/roaches/hydras/infestors


I think he could've won if he didn't engage there, but instead backed off and remade tech units. Dumping those minerals into warp prism harass would buy him so much time!

He would have won if he kept playing. But he basically stopped trying and wanted to manner nexus before Symbol left, and then just warp-in more stalkers to close the game. He had plenty of time to remake tech units, or pull back and harass the third or make a warp prism... or do basically anything except 4 manner nexus and warping in just stalkers and attacking


Even if he had just retreated when he saw the stalkers and warped in HT's for archons and to get Storm if the counterattack took a while I think he'd be fine. The game wouldn't be over, but he wouldn't lose.
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
October 03 2013 10:47 GMT
#240
Fruitland STRONK
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