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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1433 Posts
September 15 2013 16:20 GMT
#2501
On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final


Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right?

That's pretty likely though....

I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes


surely innovation is favoured to win?


Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT.


http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

http://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

I think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so.

All other than that, he always showed good games.

Taeja made it his personal quest to trash inno. he beat him down in some macro games.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 15 2013 16:20 GMT
#2502
On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final


Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right?

That's pretty likely though....

I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes


surely innovation is favoured to win?


Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT.


http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

http://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

I think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so.

All other than that, he always showed good games.


Didn't Taeja's Bio play rather murder him ? It were long games but i felt Taeja by far was superieur in all.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
September 15 2013 16:21 GMT
#2503
On September 16 2013 01:17 openbox1 wrote:
MMA's always been humble in interviews, but always gave across as being self assured during his peak run, but since his slump, he's been super down on his own chances. Watching the interview made me cringe a little. He seems a really nice guy but his confidence seems to have been shot.


I recall that in the post Soulkey GSL win interview with Ryu-Won, he talked about how MMA initially refused to help because he felt he was too lousy and all or something. For those few months it was so unbelievably rare to watch him play well against any players other than foreigner terrans
Year of MaxPax
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
September 15 2013 16:21 GMT
#2504
This is still a beautiful moment.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 15 2013 16:22 GMT
#2505
On September 16 2013 01:21 Heartland wrote:
This is still a beautiful moment.


It makes me want to cry

like really
AdministratorBreak the chains
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 15 2013 16:22 GMT
#2506
I still have nerdchills with Sjow's victory
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
September 15 2013 16:22 GMT
#2507
Sjooooooooow! Nerdchills!
hundred thousand krouner
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 15 2013 16:22 GMT
#2508
On September 16 2013 01:20 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final


Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right?

That's pretty likely though....

I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes


surely innovation is favoured to win?


Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT.


http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

http://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

I think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so.

All other than that, he always showed good games.


Didn't Taeja's Bio play rather murder him ? It were long games but i felt Taeja by far was superieur in all.


You can rewatch that newkirk game. If anything INnoVation showed how amazing he is. He basically was dead at 15 but managed to nearly come back in a 50 minute game. I wouldn't say murdered ;
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 15 2013 16:22 GMT
#2509
On September 16 2013 01:22 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:21 Heartland wrote:
This is still a beautiful moment.


It makes me want to cry

like really


I can imagine you screaming, "YOU WANTED TO BECOME RELEVANT NOW, FUCK!"
Moderator
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
September 15 2013 16:22 GMT
#2510
That game was so amazing, it was beautiful to watch.
It appears I have been chosen.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 15 2013 16:22 GMT
#2511
NO SJOW YOU WON'T BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T CUT IT
AdministratorBreak the chains
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2013 16:22 GMT
#2512
On September 16 2013 01:22 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:21 Heartland wrote:
This is still a beautiful moment.


It makes me want to cry

like really


Please cry. I want to taste your tears.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 15 2013 16:22 GMT
#2513
On September 16 2013 01:20 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final


Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right?

That's pretty likely though....

I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes


surely innovation is favoured to win?


Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT.


http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

http://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

I think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so.

All other than that, he always showed good games.


Didn't Taeja's Bio play rather murder him ? It were long games but i felt Taeja by far was superieur in all.

Spending ~55 minuts to win someone in a game isn't my conception of "murder".
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
September 15 2013 16:22 GMT
#2514
And more 80's music!
Moderator
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 15 2013 16:23 GMT
#2515
On September 16 2013 01:22 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:22 Zealously wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:21 Heartland wrote:
This is still a beautiful moment.


It makes me want to cry

like really


I can imagine you screaming, "YOU WANTED TO BECOME RELEVANT NOW, FUCK!"


Not too far off. I don't think I watched any more of that tournament
AdministratorBreak the chains
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
September 15 2013 16:23 GMT
#2516
Thorzain, why are you streaming for the second day in a row during DH, grrr.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 15 2013 16:23 GMT
#2517
On September 16 2013 01:23 unigolyn wrote:
Thorzain, why are you streaming for the second day in a row during DH, grrr.

Makes sure nobody watches.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 16:25:01
September 15 2013 16:24 GMT
#2518
On September 16 2013 01:22 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:20 Lysanias wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final


Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right?

That's pretty likely though....

I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes


surely innovation is favoured to win?


Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT.


http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

http://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

I think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so.

All other than that, he always showed good games.


Didn't Taeja's Bio play rather murder him ? It were long games but i felt Taeja by far was superieur in all.

Spending ~55 minuts to win someone in a game isn't my conception of "murder".


Slowly choking from all angle's ... is also a form of muder but fair enough.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
September 15 2013 16:25 GMT
#2519
On September 16 2013 01:22 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:21 Heartland wrote:
This is still a beautiful moment.


It makes me want to cry

like really


The celebration feels a bit like when WhiteRa beat Boxer in BW and everyone comes out to greet him.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 15 2013 16:25 GMT
#2520
On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final


Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right?

That's pretty likely though....

I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes


surely innovation is favoured to win?


Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT.


http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

http://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

I think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so.

All other than that, he always showed good games.


To say he struggles is not bashing. And build orders is a big weakness in mirrors. I think that is why he does better in vZ and vP. Besides many holding roach bane and immortal all ins, there is a 'standard' way to play vZ with 4M and vP with ghost/SCV pulls. With TvT, it is a lot about reactions and positioning and taking the right engagements which is just not a strong suit of Inno compare with mechanics and multitask.
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