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On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right? That's pretty likely though.... I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes surely innovation is favoured to win? Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT. http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotShttp://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotSI think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so. All other than that, he always showed good games.
Taeja made it his personal quest to trash inno. he beat him down in some macro games.
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Netherlands8351 Posts
On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right? That's pretty likely though.... I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes surely innovation is favoured to win? Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT. http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotShttp://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotSI think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so. All other than that, he always showed good games.
Didn't Taeja's Bio play rather murder him ? It were long games but i felt Taeja by far was superieur in all.
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On September 16 2013 01:17 openbox1 wrote:
MMA's always been humble in interviews, but always gave across as being self assured during his peak run, but since his slump, he's been super down on his own chances. Watching the interview made me cringe a little. He seems a really nice guy but his confidence seems to have been shot.
I recall that in the post Soulkey GSL win interview with Ryu-Won, he talked about how MMA initially refused to help because he felt he was too lousy and all or something. For those few months it was so unbelievably rare to watch him play well against any players other than foreigner terrans
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This is still a beautiful moment.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On September 16 2013 01:21 Heartland wrote:
This is still a beautiful moment.
It makes me want to cry
like really
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I still have nerdchills with Sjow's victory
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Sjooooooooow! Nerdchills!
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On September 16 2013 01:20 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right? That's pretty likely though.... I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes surely innovation is favoured to win? Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT. http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotShttp://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotSI think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so. All other than that, he always showed good games. Didn't Taeja's Bio play rather murder him ? It were long games but i felt Taeja by far was superieur in all.
You can rewatch that newkirk game. If anything INnoVation showed how amazing he is. He basically was dead at 15 but managed to nearly come back in a 50 minute game. I wouldn't say murdered ;
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On September 16 2013 01:22 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 01:21 Heartland wrote:
This is still a beautiful moment. It makes me want to cry like really
I can imagine you screaming, "YOU WANTED TO BECOME RELEVANT NOW, FUCK!"
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That game was so amazing, it was beautiful to watch.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
NO SJOW YOU WON'T BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T CUT IT
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 16 2013 01:22 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 01:21 Heartland wrote:
This is still a beautiful moment. It makes me want to cry like really
Please cry. I want to taste your tears.
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On September 16 2013 01:20 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right? That's pretty likely though.... I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes surely innovation is favoured to win? Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT. http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotShttp://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotSI think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so. All other than that, he always showed good games. Didn't Taeja's Bio play rather murder him ? It were long games but i felt Taeja by far was superieur in all.
Spending ~55 minuts to win someone in a game isn't my conception of "murder".
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United States5162 Posts
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On September 16 2013 01:22 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 01:22 Zealously wrote:On September 16 2013 01:21 Heartland wrote:
This is still a beautiful moment. It makes me want to cry like really I can imagine you screaming, "YOU WANTED TO BECOME RELEVANT NOW, FUCK!"
Not too far off. I don't think I watched any more of that tournament
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Thorzain, why are you streaming for the second day in a row during DH, grrr.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 16 2013 01:23 unigolyn wrote:
Thorzain, why are you streaming for the second day in a row during DH, grrr.
Makes sure nobody watches.
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Netherlands8351 Posts
On September 16 2013 01:22 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 01:20 Lysanias wrote:On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right? That's pretty likely though.... I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes surely innovation is favoured to win? Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT. http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotShttp://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotSI think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so. All other than that, he always showed good games. Didn't Taeja's Bio play rather murder him ? It were long games but i felt Taeja by far was superieur in all. Spending ~55 minuts to win someone in a game isn't my conception of "murder".
Slowly choking from all angle's ... is also a form of muder  but fair enough.
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On September 16 2013 01:22 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 01:21 Heartland wrote:
This is still a beautiful moment. It makes me want to cry like really
The celebration feels a bit like when WhiteRa beat Boxer in BW and everyone comes out to greet him.
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On September 16 2013 01:19 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 01:17 vthree wrote:On September 16 2013 01:15 dreamseller wrote:On September 16 2013 01:14 ETisME wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 16 2013 01:13 NarutO wrote:On September 16 2013 01:12 Shellshock wrote:
Wow MMA going to a final Has to beat INnoVation first, you realize that right? That's pretty likely though.... I don't know about that, would be interesting to see how it goes surely innovation is favoured to win? Inno is the better overall player. But he he struggles with TvT. http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotShttp://aligulac.com/players/28/results/?after=&before=&race=t&nats=kr&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotSI think people need to stop bashing INnoVation for his TvT. He is only losing to high-class Terrans / Code S and most of the times, he loses early due to build orders which seems to be a weakness, but in macro games he is very good and actually I cannot remember a macro game he got completely murdered. The one vs Maru probably, but he was dead early so. All other than that, he always showed good games.
To say he struggles is not bashing. And build orders is a big weakness in mirrors. I think that is why he does better in vZ and vP. Besides many holding roach bane and immortal all ins, there is a 'standard' way to play vZ with 4M and vP with ghost/SCV pulls. With TvT, it is a lot about reactions and positioning and taking the right engagements which is just not a strong suit of Inno compare with mechanics and multitask.
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