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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
September 14 2013 19:47 GMT
#3861
On September 15 2013 04:46 Musicus wrote:
what did happen in nerchio vs oz lol, how can they both have 20 workers in this stage?


Nerchios mass air stuff, he lost like 40 mutas while killing pretty much every worker. And Oz had about 30 phoenix
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 14 2013 19:47 GMT
#3862
For Grubby to advance (I think) he must:
2-0 Avenge
Avenge must lose 0-2 to Taeja and him
Symbol must be 2-0'd by Taeja
Then the score would be 3-4 for Grubby, 3-5 for Symbol, and 2-5 for Avenge. I'm not even sure he would advance over Symbol in that case but that's his only shot.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
September 14 2013 19:47 GMT
#3863
On September 15 2013 04:45 WoodenSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 04:42 Firkraag8 wrote:
On September 15 2013 04:39 WoodenSky wrote:
Flash out, I'm close to being done with SC2, very veeeeery close.

Why? He isn't as good as some make him out to be him losing isn't unexpected.


Oh yes he is. At RTS games in general. Providing you've played and watched enough Brood War and effectively understand how INSANE GOOD Flash is, it's very very painful to watch him lose on SC2, very very very painful.


I'll gladly accept that he's really, really good mechanically, but something's wrong with his play right now. Needs better builds/coaching, maybe? I think he might do better on a non-KeSPA team, tbh.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Ameisenmann
Profile Joined April 2012
Albania296 Posts
September 14 2013 19:47 GMT
#3864
Let's see if my prediction of flash+innovation dropping out early and the finals being a PvP will end up coming true ^^
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 14 2013 19:47 GMT
#3865
On September 15 2013 04:46 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 04:43 IntoTheheart wrote:
On September 15 2013 04:42 Weavel wrote:
People are so hard on Flash. Lose in 1 tournament = retire. Disgusting.

Right? He's still in the WCS system and didn't have a great year. That doesn't mean that he's "LOST HIS PASSION TO PLAY!"

Well his fanboys (like any fanboys) are pretty loud so .. you reap what you sow I guess.

To be fair Stork fans (like me) weren't sure whether or not he'd retire but we weren't nearly as loud as this.
And Stork's got a massive loss streak. And he's stuck in Challenger league.


Ah well, what can you do.
kiss kiss fall in love
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
September 14 2013 19:47 GMT
#3866
On September 15 2013 04:45 WoodenSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 04:42 Firkraag8 wrote:
On September 15 2013 04:39 WoodenSky wrote:
Flash out, I'm close to being done with SC2, very veeeeery close.

Why? He isn't as good as some make him out to be him losing isn't unexpected.


Oh yes he is. At RTS games in general. Providing you've played and watched enough Brood War and effectively understand how INSANE GOOD Flash is, it's very very painful to watch him lose on SC2, very very very painful.

He loses because he isn't up to par. He got to the top by winning, nowadays he doesn't win that's why he isn't at the top.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 14 2013 19:47 GMT
#3867
On September 15 2013 04:46 DinoToss wrote:
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On September 15 2013 04:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 15 2013 04:43 DinoToss wrote:
On September 15 2013 04:41 lolfail9001 wrote:
JD 2 0 ForGG. It seems like ForGG needs to screw map pool for maps with winrates similar to ones, he won his title with :D

Jaedong played badly(for him), nothing to do with maps that much.

Nah, just referencing one pick with TvZ winrates on map ForGG and JD played in Arena MSL finals. Also, does that mean that Jaekong was born long before :D?

Ye thats the gripe people have with his title, but still he beat Kal and Flash before in a clean fashion. And JD made weird strategical choices.

Nah, i remember that pic appeared after ForGG complained in his Code A quali interview that maps were too hard for terran.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
September 14 2013 19:47 GMT
#3868
On September 15 2013 04:44 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 04:42 Hryul wrote:
On September 15 2013 04:38 stuchiu wrote:
YUGIOH NOW GIVES YOU PERMISSION TO DIE!

i guess a caps lock key is a useful skill toi have as a writer -.-


He has just got big lungs, that's all.

then his symbol shouldn't be a pen but a vuvuzela megaphone
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
September 14 2013 19:47 GMT
#3869
JD needs a tech transition
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
September 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#3870
btw artosis said supernova would not touch innovation and now 2-0 supernova..nice prediction.
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17683 Posts
September 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#3871
On September 15 2013 04:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
Innovation has to overcome a TvT against sC to advance. Can't wait for that series.

hmm it's a rematch from GSTL, Innovation almost lost that game but then pulled it back because sC derped and let him seige behind his natural
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 19:48:23
September 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#3872
On September 15 2013 04:45 WoodenSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 04:42 Firkraag8 wrote:
On September 15 2013 04:39 WoodenSky wrote:
Flash out, I'm close to being done with SC2, very veeeeery close.

Why? He isn't as good as some make him out to be him losing isn't unexpected.


Oh yes he is. At RTS games in general. Providing you've played and watched enough Brood War and effectively understand how INSANE GOOD Flash is, it's very very painful to watch him lose on SC2, very very very painful.


Of course he's insanely strong in RTS, but right now he's just one of many in Starcraft 2. That might change, but it's not that surprising that he lost against YGO.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#3873
On September 15 2013 04:45 Assirra wrote:
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On September 15 2013 04:44 BlackCompany wrote:
Im curious what flashs plan are for the future.
1) get his shit together and become finally a force in SC2
2)continue his medicore performances and keep disappointing long time fans
3) retire

Well wasn't Flash in Korea yesterday for the group selection ceremony? Maybe he is just not good with traveling like Nestea is.

No he had already left, he wasn't there.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#3874
Just saw the Yugioh result! \o/
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 19:49:26
September 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#3875
man this dreamhack system is exhausting. I was constantly tabbing between streams the whole time lol

edit: wp by yugioh btw!
rip passion
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
September 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#3876
Now that Bisu retired people are scared of Flash retiring too, what a dumb logic.
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
September 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#3877
life gonna crush the ball-less stardust
-,-
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 19:49:48
September 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#3878
On September 15 2013 04:42 Weavel wrote:
People are so hard on Flash. Lose in 1 tournament = retire. Disgusting.


Right, but to be fair, it's not about him losing some matches. It's about him looking extremely vulnerable and making mistakes all the time. The kinds of mistakes he almost never, ever made in BW.

That's pretty sad to watch and makes people think he's just not interested in the game. Which is more or less what can be inferred from some of his interviews.

Now I'm all for leaving him more time to do well, but it doesn't seem to move in the right direction atm (let's see what he can do in Code S though I guess).
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Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
September 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#3879
Flash just doesn't seem to have the heart for the game anymore. At the beginning of HOTS/end of WOL, he seemed to, but now, he's just rather ambivalent. He still performs well because he is just that good at RTS games, but he hasn't performed at his peak since the beginning of the year.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 14 2013 19:48 GMT
#3880
On September 15 2013 04:47 Hryul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 04:44 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On September 15 2013 04:42 Hryul wrote:
On September 15 2013 04:38 stuchiu wrote:
YUGIOH NOW GIVES YOU PERMISSION TO DIE!

i guess a caps lock key is a useful skill toi have as a writer -.-


He has just got big lungs, that's all.

then his symbol shouldn't be a pen but a vuvuzela megaphone


No artists to make that possible.
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