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Stop balance whining. Do we seriously need a mod note for this? Disappointing.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
September 06 2013 11:32 GMT
#1161
On September 06 2013 20:30 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:29 r1flEx wrote:
i'm waiting for ppl to say: zerg op

Zergs seriously struggling vs terran, drg has 60+ eapm more then innovation and barely wins in a map terrans struggle with vs zerg. Calling zerg op would be a bit of a stretch.

-.- seriously eapm/apm is pretty meaningless as long as it's 150/200+
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
September 06 2013 11:32 GMT
#1162
On September 06 2013 20:26 NarutO wrote:
Very well played by DRG. Superb control and he has enough units to not let INnoVation set up his parade push which is key. In smaller engagements Terran and especially INnoVations biomine trades super cost efficient, in the very big engagement it doesn't trade as efficient anymore. GG by DRG


What do you mean with "not let inno set up his parade push"? Inno had him DRG under siege with his parade push, but I guess you meant not at the timing inno wanted to? TBH I don´t really understand how DRG won that, in most of the time they were trading equivalent. Or did the engagement in the mid, were inno saved only 2 madivacs full of marines, snowball? That was the only engagement DRG really overrun.
monchi | IdrA | Flash
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 06 2013 11:32 GMT
#1163
On September 06 2013 20:27 AgentW wrote:
Question: Is Innovation still the best Terran in the world? Bomber surely has to take the cake nowadays.


Loses 1 map to DRG after his GSTL allkill, suddenly not best anymore(?) In what world does that make sense to you-
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
September 06 2013 11:32 GMT
#1164
On September 06 2013 20:30 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:28 AxionSteel wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:27 AgentW wrote:
Question: Is Innovation still the best Terran in the world? Bomber surely has to take the cake nowadays.

Love Bomber, but I wouldn't give him much chance against DRG when he's playing like this.


But you would give Innovation a chance? This isn't accusatory, I'm just wondering.

When considering Bomber and Innovation's head to head history in the OSL, I think I have to go with Bomber.

bomber's tvz is worse than innovations, even though he beat jaedong and scarlett, nobody can really doubt inno's tvz.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
September 06 2013 11:32 GMT
#1165
I guess Tasteless hasnt seen Scarlett play
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
September 06 2013 11:32 GMT
#1166
innovation with 4 ebay build
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
September 06 2013 11:32 GMT
#1167
On September 06 2013 20:31 Koshi wrote:
Let's watch some SCII. Just tuned in. Sad that I didn't see the first 2 games between these 2.


You missed some of the best TvZ ever lol.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
September 06 2013 11:32 GMT
#1168
On September 06 2013 20:31 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:30 Big J wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:28 Big J wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:27 Big J wrote:
DongRaeGu vs INnoVation
Game 3
Map: Yeonsu
0:00
DongRaeGu starting in the top right
INnoVation starting in the bottom left

3:00
Barracks/gas for INnoVation
hatch first, pool, gas for DRG

4:00-5:30
Reaper gets driven out by zerglings
2 more CCs and reactored hellions for INnoVation
DRG scouts everything

6:00
Zergling speed finishing, 3rd base for DRG
Reaper scouts DRGs main base
stim on the way
50 to 46 supply for DRG

9:00
INnoVation trying hard to hold back the creep spread, but DRG protects it with a spine crawler
scouting overlord gets killed
Slightly faster 1-1 for DRG
lair and starport finishing up
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 06 2013 11:33 GMT
#1169
On September 06 2013 11:05 bo1b wrote:
DRGGG

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


Zergs are struggling in zvt, it's time for you to rise again :D


I'd just like to quote myself from the preview thread. I feel it's pretty relevant.
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
September 06 2013 11:33 GMT
#1170
On September 06 2013 20:32 Tsubbi wrote:
innovation with 4 ebay build


Has he really?
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
Muecke
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany150 Posts
September 06 2013 11:33 GMT
#1171
Imba 4 Ebay Build.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
September 06 2013 11:33 GMT
#1172
On September 06 2013 20:30 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:29 r1flEx wrote:
i'm waiting for ppl to say: zerg op

Zergs seriously struggling vs terran, drg has 60+ eapm more then innovation and barely wins in a map terrans struggle with vs zerg. Calling zerg op would be a bit of a stretch.

Lol where the hell did you draw that random number from?
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
September 06 2013 11:33 GMT
#1173
On September 06 2013 20:32 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:27 AgentW wrote:
Question: Is Innovation still the best Terran in the world? Bomber surely has to take the cake nowadays.


Loses 1 map to DRG after his GSTL allkill, suddenly not best anymore(?) In what world does that make sense to you-

Because I wouldn't have put him at the top coming in. It was a genuine question.

I will admit, I forgot about the GSTL all kill (couldn't watch due to timezones).
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 06 2013 11:33 GMT
#1174
On September 06 2013 20:30 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:28 AxionSteel wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:27 AgentW wrote:
Question: Is Innovation still the best Terran in the world? Bomber surely has to take the cake nowadays.

Love Bomber, but I wouldn't give him much chance against DRG when he's playing like this.


But you would give Innovation a chance? This isn't accusatory, I'm just wondering.

When considering Bomber and Innovation's head to head history in the OSL, I think I have to go with Bomber.

I meant in TvZ, I think innovations is far better!!
Head to head is totally different. It's hard to say, i still have confidence that INnovation can work it out in tvt, but Bombers tvt has been totally dominant in that matchup lately. TvP I would say is fairly close, Bomber has just walked over most protoss with his super aggressive bo's, although he was crushed by Rain, who was slaughtered by TaeJa and Maru.

PerSe
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom550 Posts
September 06 2013 11:33 GMT
#1175
Inno's record against Rain is also better than bomber's, dunno if bomber has an edge in PvT. Only match up where I think Bomber can lay claim to best in the world is TvT.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 06 2013 11:33 GMT
#1176
On September 06 2013 20:32 Big-t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:26 NarutO wrote:
Very well played by DRG. Superb control and he has enough units to not let INnoVation set up his parade push which is key. In smaller engagements Terran and especially INnoVations biomine trades super cost efficient, in the very big engagement it doesn't trade as efficient anymore. GG by DRG


What do you mean with "not let inno set up his parade push"? Inno had him DRG under siege with his parade push, but I guess you meant not at the timing inno wanted to? TBH I don´t really understand how DRG won that, in most of the time they were trading equivalent. Or did the engagement in the mid, were inno saved only 2 madivacs full of marines, snowball? That was the only engagement DRG really overrun.


INnoVations parade usually starts early and never stops, ever. He denies the initial creep already. Before 12:30 he's on the map and never stops pushing. On Derelict and on Whirlwind DRG stopped him because he had enough units and make INnoVation retreat (load up medivacs, retreat) so his parade was broken to begin with. Thats what I meant
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
September 06 2013 11:33 GMT
#1177
On September 06 2013 20:32 NovaMB wrote:
I guess Tasteless hasnt seen Scarlett play


I was thinking that, although tbh, scarlett included - everyones creep spread sucks these days compared to where th ings were in mid wol - who remembers NSHS_Seal vs bomber on bel shir beach? I DO!
twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 06 2013 11:34 GMT
#1178
On September 06 2013 20:33 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:30 bo1b wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:29 r1flEx wrote:
i'm waiting for ppl to say: zerg op

Zergs seriously struggling vs terran, drg has 60+ eapm more then innovation and barely wins in a map terrans struggle with vs zerg. Calling zerg op would be a bit of a stretch.

Lol where the hell did you draw that random number from?

Replays? The wcs replay pack to be precise.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
September 06 2013 11:34 GMT
#1179
On September 06 2013 20:32 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:31 Big J wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:30 Big J wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:28 Big J wrote:
On September 06 2013 20:27 Big J wrote:
DongRaeGu vs INnoVation
Game 3
Map: Yeonsu
0:00
DongRaeGu starting in the top right
INnoVation starting in the bottom left

3:00
Barracks/gas for INnoVation
hatch first, pool, gas for DRG

4:00-5:30
Reaper gets driven out by zerglings
2 more CCs and reactored hellions for INnoVation
DRG scouts everything

6:00
Zergling speed finishing, 3rd base for DRG
Reaper scouts DRGs main base
stim on the way
50 to 46 supply for DRG

9:00
INnoVation trying hard to hold back the creep spread, but DRG protects it with a spine crawler
scouting overlord gets killed
Slightly faster 1-1 for DRG
lair and starport finishing up

10:00-11:00
Spire and baneling nest for DRG
Combat shields for INnoVation
Creep spread getting really big again
120 to 105 supply for DRG
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
September 06 2013 11:34 GMT
#1180
On September 06 2013 20:32 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 20:27 AgentW wrote:
Question: Is Innovation still the best Terran in the world? Bomber surely has to take the cake nowadays.


Loses 1 map to DRG after his GSTL allkill, suddenly not best anymore(?) In what world does that make sense to you-


It's hard to call right now, considering how he fared against Maru, PartinG and then in WCS S2 Finals... :/

Meanwhile, Bomber lost to SuperNoVa. :s
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
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