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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
September 01 2013 20:29 GMT
#481
On September 02 2013 05:22 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:21 Heartland wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:17 Heartland wrote:
Interesting that Nani is doing the three Stargates and not two Stargates and chargealots like sOs, who he loves, often does.

Nah, sOs and Alicia did 3 stargate void rays after FFE into zealot archon void ray storm. Nerchio must have made mutas :D


Hmm, you sure? I think I've seen a lot of sOs builds that are zealot-heavy.

I remember sOs vs Soulkey(from WCS S1 finals semis, not WCS KR disaster) series and sOs vs KangHo one
Short summary: essentially Soulkey played against it with muta-corruptor mid game with appropriate transition in late game (be it SHs, Ultras or more mutas :D).


Yeah, I am thinking of gate openers. But I can never remember series like that. He probably has several different openings and skytoss builds.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
September 01 2013 20:29 GMT
#482
On September 02 2013 05:26 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:24 shid0x wrote:
I meant that nerchio should have attacked nani sooner (also no quick third) the term ''bust'' is misleading in starcraft :p

i am not quite sure if he saw the third because he was running around with his ~20 lings and the nexus was building when nani couldnt even break down the debris with his sentrys, he could have easily cancelled if he saw it, couldn't he?


Yeah i was surprised about that too,i don't think he saw the third,which is weird with 20 glings.
But i guess he kinda knew.
RIP MKP
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 01 2013 20:30 GMT
#483
On September 02 2013 05:29 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:22 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:21 Heartland wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:17 Heartland wrote:
Interesting that Nani is doing the three Stargates and not two Stargates and chargealots like sOs, who he loves, often does.

Nah, sOs and Alicia did 3 stargate void rays after FFE into zealot archon void ray storm. Nerchio must have made mutas :D


Hmm, you sure? I think I've seen a lot of sOs builds that are zealot-heavy.

I remember sOs vs Soulkey(from WCS S1 finals semis, not WCS KR disaster) series and sOs vs KangHo one
Short summary: essentially Soulkey played against it with muta-corruptor mid game with appropriate transition in late game (be it SHs, Ultras or more mutas :D).


Yeah, I am thinking of gate openers. But I can never remember series like that. He probably has several different openings and skytoss builds.

The only difference i have seen in Nani's build here and sOs play at WCS KR and WCS S1 finals is the different opening with sOs going for FFE in games i have seen, and Nani opting for gateway exp into 3 gate aggression. Similarly greedy third, 3 stargates and same transition. Nani surely likes sOs builds :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
September 01 2013 20:30 GMT
#484
On September 02 2013 05:27 SneX wrote:
I missed the game, did NaNi crush Nerchio?


Yes.

Nerchio took a pretty quick third (3:50) and held the 3-gate attack from Nani. He (theorycrafting) expected another attack as a followup and kept his lings in the middle of the map.

Nani did not attack, he took a sub-9 minute mark third instead and added two starports for a total of three.

Nerchio failed to take down the third and he attacked too late to dismantle the VR army from Nani. Nani dealt the killing blow with a maxed VR/archon/ht/chargelot army.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 20:32:10
September 01 2013 20:31 GMT
#485
Nerchio's entire army was countered by ht's, archons, and zealots. He really needed something else, or a massive supply lead with a good concave. Obviously he had neither.

I feel like Nerchio might have been able to punish Nani's fast 3rd with speedlings.
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
SneX
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden377 Posts
September 01 2013 20:31 GMT
#486
Ok, thanks all for the recap gogo NaNiwa!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
September 01 2013 20:32 GMT
#487
On September 02 2013 05:30 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:27 SneX wrote:
I missed the game, did NaNi crush Nerchio?


Yes.

Nerchio took a pretty quick third (3:50) and held the 3-gate attack from Nani. He (theorycrafting) expected another attack as a followup and kept his lings in the middle of the map.

Nani did not attack, he took a sub-9 minute mark third instead and added two starports for a total of three.

Nerchio failed to take down the third and he attacked too late to dismantle the VR army from Nani. Nani dealt the killing blow with a maxed VR/archon/ht/chargelot army.


Also, Nerchio's economy was damaged because he made 25 useless lings. I think that's a big part of the story as well.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 20:34:57
September 01 2013 20:32 GMT
#488
On September 02 2013 05:32 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:30 scypio wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:27 SneX wrote:
I missed the game, did NaNi crush Nerchio?


Yes.

Nerchio took a pretty quick third (3:50) and held the 3-gate attack from Nani. He (theorycrafting) expected another attack as a followup and kept his lings in the middle of the map.

Nani did not attack, he took a sub-9 minute mark third instead and added two starports for a total of three.

Nerchio failed to take down the third and he attacked too late to dismantle the VR army from Nani. Nani dealt the killing blow with a maxed VR/archon/ht/chargelot army.


Also, Nerchio's economy was damaged because he made 25 useless lings. I think that's a big part of the story as well.

That's the largest part of story actually.
EDIT: Woah, burrow.
Okay, congratulations to Naniwa.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
September 01 2013 20:35 GMT
#489
That went bad fast.
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
September 01 2013 20:35 GMT
#490
:\ all Nani had to do was stay home and he wins the game easily.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
September 01 2013 20:36 GMT
#491
--- Nuked ---
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 01 2013 20:36 GMT
#492
On September 02 2013 05:36 Sated wrote:
If NaNiwa hadn't moved out then he would've already won this game...

ye nerchio gambling like a boss
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
September 01 2013 20:38 GMT
#493
damn, nani has an unkillable number of vrs again
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 01 2013 20:39 GMT
#494
On September 02 2013 05:38 scypio wrote:
damn, nani has an unkillable number of vrs again

Against 10 gas muta? Not so sure.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 01 2013 20:40 GMT
#495
Twitch is terrible since last week.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
September 01 2013 20:41 GMT
#496
so much fantasy here
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 01 2013 20:41 GMT
#497
LOL, Naniwa, i <3 You
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
September 01 2013 20:41 GMT
#498
wow nani O_o
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
September 01 2013 20:41 GMT
#499
Maphacking accusations.

Ah, what a sunday evening!!
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
September 01 2013 20:41 GMT
#500
we got what we were looking for
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