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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
August 23 2013 20:26 GMT
#6581
On August 24 2013 05:25 c0ldfusion wrote:
Scarlett pissed, 3 hatch before pool

Well more like scouted the cc first quick enough... 3 hatch before pool is standard if you spot the cc fast enough
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
August 23 2013 20:26 GMT
#6582
She is the Queen!!! Come on....
....
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
August 23 2013 20:26 GMT
#6583
Holy shit scarlett. Love it!
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
August 23 2013 20:26 GMT
#6584
stream is lagging so bad for me
sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
August 23 2013 20:26 GMT
#6585
I love this opening. So sexy
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
August 23 2013 20:26 GMT
#6586
On August 24 2013 05:25 craaaaack wrote:
so:
Poll: Scarlets "g" was ...

on purpose (30)
 
73%

by accident (11)
 
27%

41 total votes

Your vote: Scarlets "g" was ...

(Vote): by accident
(Vote): on purpose



Needs a 'How the hell am I supposed to know?' option.
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6587
You should never think that your opponent will be easy like scarlett said. Even worse than that, you should never let Artosis say that your opponent will be easy...
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11108 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6588
Is that Halo music in the background?
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6589
On August 24 2013 05:25 NSGrendel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 05:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 24 2013 05:16 Plansix wrote:
On August 24 2013 05:14 NSGrendel wrote:
On August 24 2013 05:08 freerolll wrote:
On August 24 2013 05:07 NSGrendel wrote:
I'm not seeing any particularly good play from Scarlett, I'm just seeing collapses from Scarlett's opponents.

Call me a cynic, but why the fear of Scarlett? I mean let's be realistic, we're talking a Westerner Vs a Korean - which is basically a Masters Vs Grand Masters difference.





LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL if you have no clue pls refrain of making such bold statements


I just watch Korean SC2 nowadays. The other tournaments generally look like slapfights between 4 year olds by comparison. Hence my question, "why the fear of Scarlett"?

But I guess I have no clue of how good most Westerners are, since it's very rarely I see them in the top 32 of the only competition that really counts. I certainly haven't seen Scarlett in the GSL. No one gives a shit about the MLG except for NA/Euros who want to feel like they're actually competitive.

Or maybe it's just my imagination that the NA and EU parts of the WCS are dominated by Koreans?

/rolleyes

Hold on folks, the SC2 hipster has arrived. He only watches the highest quality SC2 and doesn’t keep up with that main stream stuff we all watch.

Probably isn't even knowledgeable enough of what the Koreans do that is actually good. Anybody who knows the game can point out Scarlett's strengths solely from watching her games here.

Koreans go to MLGs, but obviously they don't care for it.


Still not seeing an analysis of whether Scarlett's skill is based around micro, macro or strategic skill. So far I saw a game where someone got bunker rushed after failing to scout. Or did I completely misinterpret the last game?

I didn't stop watching Western games because they weren't hip. I stopped watching them because there are 5 minute pauses in them were people don't do anything but mass forces at their natural. But that's beside the point.

The question still stands, why would Koreans be so intimidated by Scarlett? With people's superior knowledge of the international Starcraft scene, I thought it would be easier to explain to me than to result to ad hominem attacks?

Seriously, park your dicks for a moment and answer the fucking question already. It's not complicated.


Mechanically she is as good as or better than most Korean zergs in terms of creep spread, injects and economic timings. Her defensive play is extremely strong and she has a lot of skill in playing against the current meta MMMM. The perfect example of this is her vs Dream. And though she lost, she showed more skill in her games than Roro did against Dream (and Roro vs Dream were good games).
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aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6590
On August 24 2013 05:21 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 05:20 Ghanburighan wrote:
I'll ask again, what happened in Naniwa v Innovation?


Innovation was offensive, Naniwa had very strong defense and took the lead into macro game and won in both games.


Pretty much. Game one Naniwa had some nice holds, used Blink Stalkers to snipe off medivacs etc and counter-attacked Innovation with 2 Colo to threaten Innovation's third and kill a lot of scvs. He pushed again with Colo and Templar for the win.

Game two was the same, but a little more one-sided, I think. Naniwa went Templar first in this game and held Innovation's attempts to drop really well with good observer placement. He held his third, stayed patient even if his own attempts to drop Innovation were thwarted, and set up and executed the final battle really well with good army control.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6591
On August 24 2013 05:26 jakethesnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 05:25 craaaaack wrote:
so:
Poll: Scarlets "g" was ...

on purpose (30)
 
73%

by accident (11)
 
27%

41 total votes

Your vote: Scarlets "g" was ...

(Vote): by accident
(Vote): on purpose



Needs a 'How the hell am I supposed to know?' option.


And "doesn't matter".
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6592
On August 24 2013 05:26 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 05:25 c0ldfusion wrote:
Scarlett pissed, 3 hatch before pool

Well more like scouted the cc first quick enough... 3 hatch before pool is standard if you spot the cc fast enough

as an aside, remember the thread from back in 2010 (or maybe 2011)?

I thought it's never economical to go 3 hatch before pool because of the queen timing
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6593
On August 24 2013 05:24 The_Templar wrote:
(Z)Scarlett vs (T)aLive
0-1
Map: Whirlwind


Scarlett spawns in the bottom right
aLive spawns in the top right


1:00
Both players going CC/Hatchery first

2:00
My stream is getting fuzzy.
Alive getting a barracks.

3:00
Scarlett going 3 hatchery before pool.
Alive on one gas.

4:00
Alive getting a factory and a bunker.
Alive getting a reactor on his barracks.
Scarlett getting no units yet.

5:00
Two zerglings for scarlett.
Alive building a starport.
Alive putting the reactor on his factory.
Double hellions for aLive.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6594
He is not even suppose to be here, aLive?? Fairy tale?
....
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6595
Stream going crazy.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6596
Is the sound thing on my end? Like scratching and stuff. Happened 2 times for 5-8 seconds so far.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
PeterDLai
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States924 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6597
Is NASL sound guy a shapeshifter? How does he keep getting jobs everywhere?
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#6598
On August 24 2013 05:25 NSGrendel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 05:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 24 2013 05:16 Plansix wrote:
On August 24 2013 05:14 NSGrendel wrote:
On August 24 2013 05:08 freerolll wrote:
On August 24 2013 05:07 NSGrendel wrote:
I'm not seeing any particularly good play from Scarlett, I'm just seeing collapses from Scarlett's opponents.

Call me a cynic, but why the fear of Scarlett? I mean let's be realistic, we're talking a Westerner Vs a Korean - which is basically a Masters Vs Grand Masters difference.





LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL if you have no clue pls refrain of making such bold statements


I just watch Korean SC2 nowadays. The other tournaments generally look like slapfights between 4 year olds by comparison. Hence my question, "why the fear of Scarlett"?

But I guess I have no clue of how good most Westerners are, since it's very rarely I see them in the top 32 of the only competition that really counts. I certainly haven't seen Scarlett in the GSL. No one gives a shit about the MLG except for NA/Euros who want to feel like they're actually competitive.

Or maybe it's just my imagination that the NA and EU parts of the WCS are dominated by Koreans?

/rolleyes

Hold on folks, the SC2 hipster has arrived. He only watches the highest quality SC2 and doesn’t keep up with that main stream stuff we all watch.

Probably isn't even knowledgeable enough of what the Koreans do that is actually good. Anybody who knows the game can point out Scarlett's strengths solely from watching her games here.

Koreans go to MLGs, but obviously they don't care for it.


Still not seeing an analysis of whether Scarlett's skill is based around micro, macro or strategic skill. So far I saw a game where someone got bunker rushed after failing to scout. Or did I completely misinterpret the last game?

I didn't stop watching Western games because they weren't hip. I stopped watching them because there are 5 minute pauses in them were people don't do anything but mass forces at their natural. But that's beside the point.

The question still stands, why would Koreans be so intimidated by Scarlett? With people's superior knowledge of the international Starcraft scene, I thought it would be easier to explain to me than to result to ad hominem attacks?

Seriously, park your dicks for a moment and answer the fucking question already. It's not complicated.


Because Scarlett is a very good player? I guarantee that if someone showed you replays you would have no way of differentiating between Scarlett and another Korean quality Zerg.

Go watch more of her games if you want a damn answer to your question.

aLive vs Scarlett WCS AM
Scarlett vs JaeDong WCS AM

Some recent examples of her excellence.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
August 23 2013 20:28 GMT
#6599
On August 24 2013 05:27 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 05:26 Zarahtra wrote:
On August 24 2013 05:25 c0ldfusion wrote:
Scarlett pissed, 3 hatch before pool

Well more like scouted the cc first quick enough... 3 hatch before pool is standard if you spot the cc fast enough

as an aside, remember the thread from back in 2010 (or maybe 2011)?

I thought it's never economical to go 3 hatch before pool because of the queen timing

Pretty sure it's for the creep, not for econ
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 23 2013 20:28 GMT
#6600
On August 24 2013 05:27 Marchinko wrote:
He is not even suppose to be here, aLive?? Fairy tale?

I'd be down.
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