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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 23 2013 16:27 GMT
#3521
On August 24 2013 01:22 VisonKai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:22 vult wrote:
wait so do they not show the final match in each group?


Final matches are tomorrow for some reason.


Really like how they planned this, makes you want to get out first even more. Prevents the I go over the Losers round and have easier games thought, as your Ro8 would get harder, due to being up earlier.
On the other hand no Preparation time for the Ro8.

As for the reason, halls closing at certain times, so they would have to overlap even more.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 23 2013 16:27 GMT
#3522
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.



Because Maru is more accomplished than bomber?
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
August 23 2013 16:27 GMT
#3523
On August 24 2013 01:24 HereBeDragons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:18 InstantKarma wrote:
On playxp koreans are poking fun at the foreigner crowd's reaction to Grubby losing

http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4663617&page=3


http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4663608&page=4


+ Show Spoiler +
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+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Spoilered for convenience

something went wrong there
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
August 23 2013 16:28 GMT
#3524
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.

MMM that shit talking so hawt.
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 16:28:21
August 23 2013 16:28 GMT
#3525
I missed a lot of the second game between Bomber and First.

What build did Bomber play? Seemed like he went some kind of 3rax before factory. Was it cc first?

Am I way off with my guess?
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 23 2013 16:28 GMT
#3526
On August 24 2013 01:24 stratmatt wrote:
Wow Grubby really proving that his win against MVP was a huge fluke. MVP just didnt even seem to want to win wcs europe this time, like he wanted some time off.


nah, he is just bad compared to good koreans.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 23 2013 16:28 GMT
#3527
On August 24 2013 01:27 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.



Because Maru is more accomplished than bomber?

Not really.
The Bomber boy
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
August 23 2013 16:28 GMT
#3528
On August 24 2013 01:28 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:27 stratmatt wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.



Because Maru is more accomplished than bomber?

Not really.



Yes, really, lol.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 23 2013 16:28 GMT
#3529
On August 24 2013 01:26 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:23 Plansix wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:21 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:19 Plansix wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:18 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:14 Amornthep wrote:
Raped hard.

Pretty much this. Current TvP just forces the T to use SCVs.

Nah, its just a response to greedy protoss styles. Soon protoss will kick their greed habit and we will advance the meta.

I really hope the meta advances, that matchup got stuck a long time ago.

Not really, protoss figured out how to stop the endless drops. Terrans got confused when they were not working and tried aggression in other fashions. Protoss got greedy when they could stop all that aggression. SCV got pulled and here we are today.

HotS is only 5 months old. We have not been stuck for a long time.


People see the same unit compositions and assume a static meta, because they don't see what is actually going on. We aren't suddenly going to see mech vs carriers guys.

Well that would be amazing stuff if we saw that, but it isn't going to happen in the middle of a season or during a finals. People don't ditch the thing that got them to the finals just to try out a new thing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 23 2013 16:28 GMT
#3530
On August 24 2013 01:28 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:27 stratmatt wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.



Because Maru is more accomplished than bomber?

Not really.

MLG > OSL, okokokok
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
August 23 2013 16:29 GMT
#3531
Naniwa, EU's last hope now!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 23 2013 16:29 GMT
#3532
On August 24 2013 01:28 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:28 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:27 stratmatt wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.



Because Maru is more accomplished than bomber?

Not really.



Yes, really, lol.


Finale beats both anyway so stop it
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 16:29:54
August 23 2013 16:29 GMT
#3533
On August 24 2013 01:27 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.



Because Maru is more accomplished than bomber?


Maru has a single gold, Bomber, even without a win, has placed highly in way more tournaments than Maru.

Edit: But this isn't trash talk, this is actual discussion, and that is no fun.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 23 2013 16:29 GMT
#3534
On August 24 2013 01:28 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:28 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:27 stratmatt wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.



Because Maru is more accomplished than bomber?

Not really.

MLG > OSL, okokokok

MLG and a thousand top finishes in addition to being bomber = better than one win.
The Bomber boy
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
August 23 2013 16:29 GMT
#3535
On August 24 2013 01:27 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.



Because Maru is more accomplished than bomber?


Bomber makes nukes and uses them.. That is why.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 23 2013 16:29 GMT
#3536
On August 24 2013 01:27 stratmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.



Because Maru is more accomplished than bomber?


Uh he said he wanted to watch flash and Innovation for true TvT skill. So he can't mean Sc2 anyway.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 23 2013 16:29 GMT
#3537
On August 24 2013 01:26 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:24 stratmatt wrote:
Wow Grubby really proving that his win against MVP was a huge fluke. MVP just didnt even seem to want to win wcs europe this time, like he wanted some time off.


He's injured, there's not a whole lot he can do when he can't practice for more than a couple hours at a time before being in searing pain.

That totally sucks. Hope he heals up soon and gets back to it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
August 23 2013 16:29 GMT
#3538
On August 24 2013 01:28 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:28 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:27 stratmatt wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.



Because Maru is more accomplished than bomber?

Not really.

MLG > OSL, okokokok

BOMBER~!!! BW MSL WINNER!!!
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
August 23 2013 16:30 GMT
#3539
Innovation vs. Taeja will be a nice test of Inno's TvT. Hopefully he's "fixed" it or something.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
August 23 2013 16:30 GMT
#3540
On August 24 2013 01:29 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 01:28 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:28 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:27 stratmatt wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:26 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:24 Wintex wrote:
On August 24 2013 01:22 Lorning wrote:
Drop everything, we have a Korean TvT coming up

Gotta get dem builds eh?

Rewatch Innovation vs Maru, it'll help you

why would I watch a shitty prime player.? I'll watch Bomber versus flash and Inno for the true TvT skill.



Because Maru is more accomplished than bomber?

Not really.

MLG > OSL, okokokok

MLG and a thousand top finishes in addition to being bomber = better than one win.

Don't forget Bomber made it to the semis of IPL5 THE HARDEST MOST STACKED TOURNAMENT EVER
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
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