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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 18 2013 17:22 GMT
#441
Something happened to Taeja in Moscow
Terran & Potato Salad.
Schnurres
Profile Joined January 2013
54 Posts
August 18 2013 17:22 GMT
#442
On August 19 2013 02:18 partydude89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:17 Schnurres wrote:
I think it was a big big mistake of Liquid to send out Ret second vs Dayshi who is a zerg sniper. That will most likely loose them the game.

If they send out herO earlier they could send now TLO or Ret vs ForGG and would still have an aceplacyer.

Don't understand the decision to send a zerg vs a zergsniper. Even the casters were really surprised.


It's quite possible that they had counter/prepared builds vs Dayshi. They knew that they would have to face Dayshi and possibly Forgg, so it makes sense that they would have some builds ready.



But he is famous for his TvZ. And Ret did not pull off any special build.

Dayshi even said he would love to face Acer cause they got so many Zergs. His TvZ is just really really good.

Also forGGs TvZ is really bad compared to his TvT. This one decision to send a zerg vs a zerg sniper caused them to send a terran vs a terransnuper later. If you send out herO earlier you can have one player more left and can send out a Zerg vs forGG later and test his TvZ.

That way liquid would have a chance to win, but if you give Millenium the exact match ups they want it becomes really really hard. 2 TvZ for Dayshi and 2 TvTs for forGG. Millenium can't wish any better^^
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 18 2013 17:22 GMT
#443
On August 19 2013 02:22 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Something happened to Taeja in Moscow

Vodka is one hell of a drink.
Glorious SEA doto
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 18 2013 17:22 GMT
#444
A TLO roach bust would probably have been a good pick against ForGG but it was too late for that with only one life left (is Neo good for that strategy?)
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 18 2013 17:23 GMT
#445
What did Taeja do in Moscow?
I was on vacation
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
August 18 2013 17:23 GMT
#446
On August 19 2013 02:22 Schnurres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:18 partydude89 wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:17 Schnurres wrote:
I think it was a big big mistake of Liquid to send out Ret second vs Dayshi who is a zerg sniper. That will most likely loose them the game.

If they send out herO earlier they could send now TLO or Ret vs ForGG and would still have an aceplacyer.

Don't understand the decision to send a zerg vs a zergsniper. Even the casters were really surprised.


It's quite possible that they had counter/prepared builds vs Dayshi. They knew that they would have to face Dayshi and possibly Forgg, so it makes sense that they would have some builds ready.



But he is famous for his TvZ. And Ret did not pull off any special build.

Dayshi even said he would love to face Acer cause they got so many Zergs. His TvZ is just really really good.

Also forGGs TvZ is really bad compared to his TvT. This one decision to send a zerg vs a zerg sniper caused them to send a terran vs a terransnuper later. If you send out herO earlier you can have one player more left and can send out a Zerg vs forGG later and test his TvZ.

That way liquid would have a chance to win, but if you give Millenium the exact match ups they want it becomes really really hard. 2 TvZ for Dayshi and 2 TvTs for forGG. Millenium can't wish any better^^



If they have to fly out all those people to be able to play in ATC (they need 4 people) then they might as well use them.
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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
August 18 2013 17:23 GMT
#447
On August 19 2013 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
A TLO roach bust would probably have been a good pick against ForGG but it was too late for that with only one life left (is Neo good for that strategy?)

With that cliff, roach bust is probably worst on this map. That being said, you ofcourse then actually need to have tanks out :D
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33335 Posts
August 18 2013 17:24 GMT
#448
On August 19 2013 02:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What did Taeja do in Moscow?
I was on vacation


he was just transiting from moscow, got delayed there for a bit
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 18 2013 17:24 GMT
#449
On August 19 2013 02:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
What did Taeja do in Moscow?
I was on vacation

He got stuck in Moscow and missed the first day.
Glorious SEA doto
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 18 2013 17:24 GMT
#450
Feels like a lack of preparation from TaeJa/TL here. ForGG always plays the same build order in TvT. Always. Gas 15 expand into Hellions + Viking/Raven, then swap for Cloak Banshee. If you open Cloak Banshee, the best way to transition against that is to go for a Marines/Tanks/Banshees push like Maru did vs Newkirk on Bogus. Guaranteed win or heavy damage.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 18 2013 17:25 GMT
#451
40+ supply difference already >.>
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
August 18 2013 17:25 GMT
#452
so it's bio vs mech and taeja takes his 3rd at 14mins @_@ not looking good for TL
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 18 2013 17:25 GMT
#453
On August 19 2013 02:22 Schnurres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:18 partydude89 wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:17 Schnurres wrote:
I think it was a big big mistake of Liquid to send out Ret second vs Dayshi who is a zerg sniper. That will most likely loose them the game.

If they send out herO earlier they could send now TLO or Ret vs ForGG and would still have an aceplacyer.

Don't understand the decision to send a zerg vs a zergsniper. Even the casters were really surprised.


It's quite possible that they had counter/prepared builds vs Dayshi. They knew that they would have to face Dayshi and possibly Forgg, so it makes sense that they would have some builds ready.



But he is famous for his TvZ. And Ret did not pull off any special build.

Dayshi even said he would love to face Acer cause they got so many Zergs. His TvZ is just really really good.

Also forGGs TvZ is really bad compared to his TvT. This one decision to send a zerg vs a zerg sniper caused them to send a terran vs a terransnuper later. If you send out herO earlier you can have one player more left and can send out a Zerg vs forGG later and test his TvZ.

That way liquid would have a chance to win, but if you give Millenium the exact match ups they want it becomes really really hard. 2 TvZ for Dayshi and 2 TvTs for forGG. Millenium can't wish any better^^

This is a perfect summary. For me Liquid's lineup is ahead of Millenium's one but they're giving the match strategically.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
August 18 2013 17:26 GMT
#454
Welp that looked pretty easy.
Hello
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 18 2013 17:26 GMT
#455
On August 19 2013 02:23 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:22 AlternativeEgo wrote:
A TLO roach bust would probably have been a good pick against ForGG but it was too late for that with only one life left (is Neo good for that strategy?)

With that cliff, roach bust is probably worst on this map. That being said, you ofcourse then actually need to have tanks out :D

The 3-bases variant is a nightmare to defend with the open space between the natural and the third.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
August 18 2013 17:26 GMT
#456
That was horrible.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 18 2013 17:26 GMT
#457
rofl.
Schnurres
Profile Joined January 2013
54 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-18 17:27:15
August 18 2013 17:26 GMT
#458
On August 19 2013 02:23 partydude89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 02:22 Schnurres wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:18 partydude89 wrote:
On August 19 2013 02:17 Schnurres wrote:
I think it was a big big mistake of Liquid to send out Ret second vs Dayshi who is a zerg sniper. That will most likely loose them the game.

If they send out herO earlier they could send now TLO or Ret vs ForGG and would still have an aceplacyer.

Don't understand the decision to send a zerg vs a zergsniper. Even the casters were really surprised.


It's quite possible that they had counter/prepared builds vs Dayshi. They knew that they would have to face Dayshi and possibly Forgg, so it makes sense that they would have some builds ready.



But he is famous for his TvZ. And Ret did not pull off any special build.

Dayshi even said he would love to face Acer cause they got so many Zergs. His TvZ is just really really good.

Also forGGs TvZ is really bad compared to his TvT. This one decision to send a zerg vs a zerg sniper caused them to send a terran vs a terransnuper later. If you send out herO earlier you can have one player more left and can send out a Zerg vs forGG later and test his TvZ.

That way liquid would have a chance to win, but if you give Millenium the exact match ups they want it becomes really really hard. 2 TvZ for Dayshi and 2 TvTs for forGG. Millenium can't wish any better^^



If they have to fly out all those people to be able to play in ATC (they need 4 people) then they might as well use them.


Ret is hollandese? He can drive over there in 1-3 hours.^^

I am jsut convinced that Liquids coach did the wrong decisions and therefore liquid lost. Sending a zerg vs a zerg sniper and thus forcing you to send a terran twice vs a terransniper.

I mean Liquid had the right Lineup to beat Millenium. You just have to send the right players out at the right time.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 18 2013 17:26 GMT
#459
Well, time to fly home guys. Not via Moscow this time.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
August 18 2013 17:26 GMT
#460
wow, that was bad
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
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