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Stop the balance whining please.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 12 2013 02:42 GMT
#3541
On August 12 2013 11:41 Godwrath wrote:
Textbook hold. Congratz Polt.


Well, the textbook says: scout the tech, and if it is ling/baneling/roach build tanks. But well, good hold nevertheless.
Matta
Profile Joined July 2013
United States116 Posts
August 12 2013 02:42 GMT
#3542
3/3 on the way, aka "tier 3" tech for bio terran
"I can just get completely fucked in every way, but I can just Widow Mine my way out of it." egxeno
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 12 2013 02:42 GMT
#3543
On August 12 2013 11:37 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:35 n.DieJokes wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:32 tylerf wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:29 Fionn wrote:
If Jaedong loses, he joins elite company in SC2 Kongverse. Losing three premiere tournaments: MKP, Alicia, Symbol and Squirtle.

The Kong Five.

Thanks for the reminder

lol, Jaedongs won five starleagues. Associating him with kong anything is silly

He is about to be between the greatest sc2 kongs if Polt continues to play like this.

Pfft, its all starcraft just because you weren't around didn't mean it didn't happen
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 12 2013 02:42 GMT
#3544
That looked close for Jaedong! Too bad he couldn't break Polt. Supply even but Polt is definitely ahead.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
August 12 2013 02:42 GMT
#3545
Jaedong is so far behind in upgrades again. This isn't looking good for him at all.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#3546
17 mines LOL
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#3547
MineKing.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
August 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#3548
On August 12 2013 11:41 jubil wrote:
Love the spread on the bunkers and putting only one marine in each, very nice touch


What was the point in that? Did he accept that they were going to die anyway and just put 1 marine in to mess with the zerg AI?
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#3549
Holding back balance whine is hard sometimes. :D
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Shantastic
Profile Joined October 2011
United States435 Posts
August 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#3550
On August 12 2013 11:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:38 Shantastic wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:32 Shantastic wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:30 cosine wrote:
i love how people are balance whining, even though Polt pulled those same comebacks in the Lings of Liberty era. watch his games vs Stephano. he always bleeds SCVs but wins engagements. also, if you want to whine about tech levels: Polt was on T3 (medivacs) while JD was only investing in T1 ling/bane and T2 muta.

Medivacs are not T3... Marine/Mine/Medivac is just better than Muta/Ling/Bane, and with Polt's ridiculously good macro and battle mechanics, it's virtually impossible to tech up through his aggression.


Terran tiers are different than Zerg tiers.

Medivacs are technically tier 2.5 because they come from Starports (which are technically tier 3) yet can be reactored which puts them on a different tier than Ravens and BCs which require Tech Labs.

Thors are traditionally considered Tier 3, yet come from Factories (tier 2 structure) and are on the same tech requirement as Helbats which are considered by most to be tier 1.5 units.

Terran tech trees are strange and not linear AT ALL. Zerg is the only race with a straight linear tech tree.

The whole concept of "tiers" is stupid and irrelevant to StarCraft in that case. Medivacs require far less tech advancement than Mutas to make, and they're much more cost-efficient for their use. It's just how the races operate, but by default, Terran will almost always have Medivacs before Zerg has Mutas in a standard Ling-based ZvT. To argue that Terran had T3 while Zerg had only T1/2 is entirely irrelevant.


I agree with that conclusion. I was just posting to deflate some of this "Terran only uses tier 1 units" balance whine by explaining just how inaccurate that is.

Oh god, I hate that argument. It's just standard Zerg balance whine, and it gets in the way of actual balance discussion.
"My grandpa could have proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, but he's also dead." -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
jmihere
Profile Joined June 2013
62 Posts
August 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#3551
it's gonna be over when 3/3 marines hit again...
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#3552
Jaedong is the king of Silver Medals
you no take candle
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44270 Posts
August 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#3553
did jaedong suffer from yellow fever?
this is a quote
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
August 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#3554
On August 12 2013 11:43 Fionn wrote:
MineKing.


Mines are ugly this series for some reason.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
August 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#3555
Once 3/3 hits, JD is dead.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
August 12 2013 02:44 GMT
#3556
On August 12 2013 11:43 Greendotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:41 jubil wrote:
Love the spread on the bunkers and putting only one marine in each, very nice touch


What was the point in that? Did he accept that they were going to die anyway and just put 1 marine in to mess with the zerg AI?


No, he did it to force Jaedong to use his Banelings on Bunkers instead of on the bio units.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
August 12 2013 02:44 GMT
#3557
On August 12 2013 11:43 Greendotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:41 jubil wrote:
Love the spread on the bunkers and putting only one marine in each, very nice touch


What was the point in that? Did he accept that they were going to die anyway and just put 1 marine in to mess with the zerg AI?


yep
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
August 12 2013 02:44 GMT
#3558
Jaedong needs to get into Hive NOW
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
August 12 2013 02:44 GMT
#3559
its so hard being a JD fan lately ;( always so close with 2nd place finishes to get our hopes up then the loss.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
August 12 2013 02:44 GMT
#3560
wonder if this is going to head down the same way as G3

Jaedong needs Infestors
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
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