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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1429 Posts
August 11 2013 14:49 GMT
#1321
On August 11 2013 23:48 LiamBrady wrote:
This caster bias. (Understandable as Grubby is a friend to both Redeye and Apollo)

grubby is the friend of every human being
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 11 2013 14:49 GMT
#1322
On August 11 2013 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:45 Teoita wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:43 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:38 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:35 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:34 75 wrote:
[quote]
you gave me hope but i will blame artosis if duckduck is winning

A big part of the Artosis curse is that he picks underdogs to try and look smart.


Lol you think Sun was the underdog against Maru?

Yes. Maru is very, very good.


So is Sun. Except Sun had won tournaments before. I'm not saying Maru is bad, but he was very much the underdog.

It's easy to go "oh he won I guess he wasn't the underdog" but that's such terrible logic.

Nice job on thinking up shit logic and then putting it in my mouth.


Sorry I find it hard to argue with fanboys who suddenly think Maru is the best player on the planet just because he hard-countered a stubborn Bogus... zzz

He's good, but he's not as good as you're making him out to be. Sun was by far the favorite going into it.

Maru has been in GSL since very early, and was the youngest player in GSL. He has had good results for a long time. I would always pick a player like that over somebody newer to the game.

Now you call me a fanboy? Jesus you're bad at debating, or whatever you call it.


Sun was an A teamer in Proleague for a long time too you know. Plus, you know, he was winning titles one year ago...


Exactly.

It's hard to bring a decent argument when you don't know what you're talking about.... "oh but Maru is so young etc etc" yeah while Maru was busy struggling to survive in Code S ro32, FlaSh and Life were winning the most prestigious championships when they were his age.

I think it is fairly undisputed that Rain was the favorite. He won the previous OSL, has had more success in WCS/GSL than Maru (despite the shorter tenure) and provided constant results throughout Proleague which was the hardest competition in SC2. I believe he finished second in wins behind Flash? or maybe third behind Innovation as well.

I was rooting for Maru, but I knew he was the underdog.
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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 11 2013 14:49 GMT
#1323
On August 11 2013 23:48 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:46 Darpa wrote:
Duckdeok didnt have an obs with his army. 2 DT's would have pushed that push all the way back to his base. Too bad Grubby didnt notice.

I'm positive I saw an obs shadow trailing those immortals attacking the natural.



I was looking for it, but didnt see it. Grubby had one but I dont think duckdeok did.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 14:50 GMT
#1324
On August 11 2013 23:49 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:45 Teoita wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:43 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:38 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:35 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:34 75 wrote:
[quote]
you gave me hope but i will blame artosis if duckduck is winning

A big part of the Artosis curse is that he picks underdogs to try and look smart.


Lol you think Sun was the underdog against Maru?

Yes. Maru is very, very good.


So is Sun. Except Sun had won tournaments before. I'm not saying Maru is bad, but he was very much the underdog.

It's easy to go "oh he won I guess he wasn't the underdog" but that's such terrible logic.

Nice job on thinking up shit logic and then putting it in my mouth.


Sorry I find it hard to argue with fanboys who suddenly think Maru is the best player on the planet just because he hard-countered a stubborn Bogus... zzz

He's good, but he's not as good as you're making him out to be. Sun was by far the favorite going into it.

Maru has been in GSL since very early, and was the youngest player in GSL. He has had good results for a long time. I would always pick a player like that over somebody newer to the game.

Now you call me a fanboy? Jesus you're bad at debating, or whatever you call it.


Sun was an A teamer in Proleague for a long time too you know. Plus, you know, he was winning titles one year ago...


I stopped following BW shortly after SC2 came out, but didn't Sun win the rookie award in one of the last seasons? Maybe even the hybrid season? Or am I mixing him up with another toss?


Can't remember which season it was but you are correct.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 11 2013 14:50 GMT
#1325
On August 11 2013 23:49 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:48 LiamBrady wrote:
This caster bias. (Understandable as Grubby is a friend to both Redeye and Apollo)

grubby is the friend of every human being

He's like jesus.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 14:50 GMT
#1326
On August 11 2013 23:50 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:49 Tanzklaue wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:48 LiamBrady wrote:
This caster bias. (Understandable as Grubby is a friend to both Redeye and Apollo)

grubby is the friend of every human being

He's like jesus.


Except he doesn't cause endless debates and arguments and strife.

Grubby is perfect!
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
August 11 2013 14:50 GMT
#1327
On August 11 2013 23:48 LiamBrady wrote:
This caster bias. (Understandable as Grubby is a friend to both Redeye and Apollo)


Everybody is cheering for Grubby.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
August 11 2013 14:50 GMT
#1328
On August 11 2013 23:50 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:49 Tanzklaue wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:48 LiamBrady wrote:
This caster bias. (Understandable as Grubby is a friend to both Redeye and Apollo)

grubby is the friend of every human being

He's like jesus.

hahahaahahaha
It's good to be back
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 11 2013 14:50 GMT
#1329
On August 11 2013 23:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a minute. Grubby is fan favorite, Artosis cheering for him and he is up against toss version of (Z)Sniper!? Poor guy

Poor Finale getting the Sniper label of death
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 11 2013 14:51 GMT
#1330
On August 11 2013 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:45 Teoita wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:43 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:38 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:35 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:34 75 wrote:
[quote]
you gave me hope but i will blame artosis if duckduck is winning

A big part of the Artosis curse is that he picks underdogs to try and look smart.


Lol you think Sun was the underdog against Maru?

Yes. Maru is very, very good.


So is Sun. Except Sun had won tournaments before. I'm not saying Maru is bad, but he was very much the underdog.

It's easy to go "oh he won I guess he wasn't the underdog" but that's such terrible logic.

Nice job on thinking up shit logic and then putting it in my mouth.


Sorry I find it hard to argue with fanboys who suddenly think Maru is the best player on the planet just because he hard-countered a stubborn Bogus... zzz

He's good, but he's not as good as you're making him out to be. Sun was by far the favorite going into it.

Maru has been in GSL since very early, and was the youngest player in GSL. He has had good results for a long time. I would always pick a player like that over somebody newer to the game.

Now you call me a fanboy? Jesus you're bad at debating, or whatever you call it.


Sun was an A teamer in Proleague for a long time too you know. Plus, you know, he was winning titles one year ago...


Exactly.

It's hard to bring a decent argument when you don't know what you're talking about.... "oh but Maru is so young etc etc" yeah while Maru was busy struggling to survive in Code S ro32, FlaSh and Life were winning the most prestigious championships when they were his age.


To be fair Maru just won the most prestigious championship and he is roughly as old as they were when they won
AdministratorBreak the chains
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 14:51:48
August 11 2013 14:51 GMT
#1331
Ah well I'm usually going to pick the old-time SC2 player over the newer one as Maru showed vs. Innovation the other day. The old-timers have more tricks up their sleeve that the newer guys haven't seen as much of. Provided the old-timer isn't slumping/injured.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 14:51:50
August 11 2013 14:51 GMT
#1332
go go grubby you can do it.

also sentrie power map, to bad it is a pvp.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 14:51 GMT
#1333
On August 11 2013 23:49 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:45 Teoita wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:43 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:38 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:35 pigmanbear wrote:
[quote]
A big part of the Artosis curse is that he picks underdogs to try and look smart.


Lol you think Sun was the underdog against Maru?

Yes. Maru is very, very good.


So is Sun. Except Sun had won tournaments before. I'm not saying Maru is bad, but he was very much the underdog.

It's easy to go "oh he won I guess he wasn't the underdog" but that's such terrible logic.

Nice job on thinking up shit logic and then putting it in my mouth.


Sorry I find it hard to argue with fanboys who suddenly think Maru is the best player on the planet just because he hard-countered a stubborn Bogus... zzz

He's good, but he's not as good as you're making him out to be. Sun was by far the favorite going into it.

Maru has been in GSL since very early, and was the youngest player in GSL. He has had good results for a long time. I would always pick a player like that over somebody newer to the game.

Now you call me a fanboy? Jesus you're bad at debating, or whatever you call it.


Sun was an A teamer in Proleague for a long time too you know. Plus, you know, he was winning titles one year ago...


Exactly.

It's hard to bring a decent argument when you don't know what you're talking about.... "oh but Maru is so young etc etc" yeah while Maru was busy struggling to survive in Code S ro32, FlaSh and Life were winning the most prestigious championships when they were his age.

I think it is fairly undisputed that Rain was the favorite. He won the previous OSL, has had more success in WCS/GSL than Maru (despite the shorter tenure) and provided constant results throughout Proleague which was the hardest competition in SC2. I believe he finished second in wins behind Flash? or maybe third behind Innovation as well.

I was rooting for Maru, but I knew he was the underdog.


Yeah. Like maybe pigmanbear got too eager in his fanboyness and misunderstood. Maru's achievement this season of OSL is absolutely incredible and praise-worthy. But let's not pretend he was some god-tier Terran all along...
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 11 2013 14:52 GMT
#1334
On August 11 2013 23:49 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:48 LiamBrady wrote:
This caster bias. (Understandable as Grubby is a friend to both Redeye and Apollo)

grubby is the friend of every human being

98% of SC2 is cheering for Grubby nothing against Finale but Grubby is just the better story. Plus some of us loved him in WC3.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
August 11 2013 14:52 GMT
#1335
On August 11 2013 23:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:49 Darkhoarse wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:45 Teoita wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:43 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:38 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
[quote]

Lol you think Sun was the underdog against Maru?

Yes. Maru is very, very good.


So is Sun. Except Sun had won tournaments before. I'm not saying Maru is bad, but he was very much the underdog.

It's easy to go "oh he won I guess he wasn't the underdog" but that's such terrible logic.

Nice job on thinking up shit logic and then putting it in my mouth.


Sorry I find it hard to argue with fanboys who suddenly think Maru is the best player on the planet just because he hard-countered a stubborn Bogus... zzz

He's good, but he's not as good as you're making him out to be. Sun was by far the favorite going into it.

Maru has been in GSL since very early, and was the youngest player in GSL. He has had good results for a long time. I would always pick a player like that over somebody newer to the game.

Now you call me a fanboy? Jesus you're bad at debating, or whatever you call it.


Sun was an A teamer in Proleague for a long time too you know. Plus, you know, he was winning titles one year ago...


Exactly.

It's hard to bring a decent argument when you don't know what you're talking about.... "oh but Maru is so young etc etc" yeah while Maru was busy struggling to survive in Code S ro32, FlaSh and Life were winning the most prestigious championships when they were his age.

I think it is fairly undisputed that Rain was the favorite. He won the previous OSL, has had more success in WCS/GSL than Maru (despite the shorter tenure) and provided constant results throughout Proleague which was the hardest competition in SC2. I believe he finished second in wins behind Flash? or maybe third behind Innovation as well.

I was rooting for Maru, but I knew he was the underdog.


Yeah. Like maybe pigmanbear got too eager in his fanboyness and misunderstood. Maru's achievement this season of OSL is absolutely incredible and praise-worthy. But let's not pretend he was some god-tier Terran all along...

Go ahead and keep calling me a fanboy. The only players I'm a fanboy of are MKP, ForGG, and WannaBeCool, so suck it.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 14:52 GMT
#1336
On August 11 2013 23:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:45 Teoita wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:43 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:38 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:35 pigmanbear wrote:
[quote]
A big part of the Artosis curse is that he picks underdogs to try and look smart.


Lol you think Sun was the underdog against Maru?

Yes. Maru is very, very good.


So is Sun. Except Sun had won tournaments before. I'm not saying Maru is bad, but he was very much the underdog.

It's easy to go "oh he won I guess he wasn't the underdog" but that's such terrible logic.

Nice job on thinking up shit logic and then putting it in my mouth.


Sorry I find it hard to argue with fanboys who suddenly think Maru is the best player on the planet just because he hard-countered a stubborn Bogus... zzz

He's good, but he's not as good as you're making him out to be. Sun was by far the favorite going into it.

Maru has been in GSL since very early, and was the youngest player in GSL. He has had good results for a long time. I would always pick a player like that over somebody newer to the game.

Now you call me a fanboy? Jesus you're bad at debating, or whatever you call it.


Sun was an A teamer in Proleague for a long time too you know. Plus, you know, he was winning titles one year ago...


Exactly.

It's hard to bring a decent argument when you don't know what you're talking about.... "oh but Maru is so young etc etc" yeah while Maru was busy struggling to survive in Code S ro32, FlaSh and Life were winning the most prestigious championships when they were his age.


To be fair Maru just won the most prestigious championship and he is roughly as old as they were when they won


Maru is one year older, and he won OSL (just like FlaSh) which nowadays is equivalent to the GSL (which Life won)

Anyway the argument was that Maru was not the underdog against Sun, not that he's a bad player etc.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3837 Posts
August 11 2013 14:53 GMT
#1337
On August 11 2013 23:52 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:49 Tanzklaue wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:48 LiamBrady wrote:
This caster bias. (Understandable as Grubby is a friend to both Redeye and Apollo)

grubby is the friend of every human being

98% of SC2 is cheering for Grubby nothing against Finale but Grubby is just the better story. Plus some of us loved him in WC3.

I'm a big finale fan but I'm cheering for Grubby
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 14:54:07
August 11 2013 14:53 GMT
#1338
On August 11 2013 23:50 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
Wait a minute. Grubby is fan favorite, Artosis cheering for him and he is up against toss version of (Z)Sniper!? Poor guy

Poor Finale getting the Sniper label of death

Well, he did kill alot of fan favorites in most anti-fun way possible (except for that hold), he is rather young and he is on team MVP.
EDIT: I do like Sniper.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 14:53 GMT
#1339
On August 11 2013 23:52 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 23:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:49 Darkhoarse wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:45 Teoita wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:43 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 pigmanbear wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 11 2013 23:38 pigmanbear wrote:
[quote]
Yes. Maru is very, very good.


So is Sun. Except Sun had won tournaments before. I'm not saying Maru is bad, but he was very much the underdog.

It's easy to go "oh he won I guess he wasn't the underdog" but that's such terrible logic.

Nice job on thinking up shit logic and then putting it in my mouth.


Sorry I find it hard to argue with fanboys who suddenly think Maru is the best player on the planet just because he hard-countered a stubborn Bogus... zzz

He's good, but he's not as good as you're making him out to be. Sun was by far the favorite going into it.

Maru has been in GSL since very early, and was the youngest player in GSL. He has had good results for a long time. I would always pick a player like that over somebody newer to the game.

Now you call me a fanboy? Jesus you're bad at debating, or whatever you call it.


Sun was an A teamer in Proleague for a long time too you know. Plus, you know, he was winning titles one year ago...


Exactly.

It's hard to bring a decent argument when you don't know what you're talking about.... "oh but Maru is so young etc etc" yeah while Maru was busy struggling to survive in Code S ro32, FlaSh and Life were winning the most prestigious championships when they were his age.

I think it is fairly undisputed that Rain was the favorite. He won the previous OSL, has had more success in WCS/GSL than Maru (despite the shorter tenure) and provided constant results throughout Proleague which was the hardest competition in SC2. I believe he finished second in wins behind Flash? or maybe third behind Innovation as well.

I was rooting for Maru, but I knew he was the underdog.


Yeah. Like maybe pigmanbear got too eager in his fanboyness and misunderstood. Maru's achievement this season of OSL is absolutely incredible and praise-worthy. But let's not pretend he was some god-tier Terran all along...

Go ahead and keep calling me a fanboy. The only players I'm a fanboy of are MKP, ForGG, and WannaBeCool, so suck it.


Let me know when you can conjure some sort of factually-accurate argument to back up your claims. And no I will not suck it.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 11 2013 14:53 GMT
#1340
On August 11 2013 23:51 pigmanbear wrote:
Ah well I'm usually going to pick the old-time SC2 player over the newer one as Maru showed vs. Innovation the other day. The old-timers have more tricks up their sleeve that the newer guys haven't seen as much of. Provided the old-timer isn't slumping/injured.

If this was still WoL, I would agree but I think HotS changed it up just enough to make it fairly level.
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