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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 03 2013 10:08 GMT
#2341
On August 03 2013 19:07 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 19:04 Porishan wrote:
On August 03 2013 19:02 Heartland wrote:
On August 03 2013 19:02 TAMinator wrote:
Sup son after a BO win lol


It wasn't.

It was, PvP is all about BO


It's a lot about mindgames and micro as well. sOs played this game out well by hiding his twilight in the right place. Put a lot on the line for him. Don't blame it all on the BOs

it was a smart build and a good execution. but you cant hold this if executed right, it was a bo win.
TL+ Member
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 03 2013 10:08 GMT
#2342
time for

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vs
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 03 2013 10:08 GMT
#2343
was it Hyvaa or Hydra who was in Mr Bitters Fantasy Team?
Zerg for Life
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
August 03 2013 10:09 GMT
#2344
On August 03 2013 19:08 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 19:06 Dodgin wrote:
the crowd actually looks pretty full now, the stands behind the main seats on the floor are pretty full. let's stop with the negativity. this is way better than I expected without skt kt or khan.


Khan is that popular?


They sure used to be atleast
Jaedong & Faker
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
August 03 2013 10:09 GMT
#2345
On August 03 2013 19:08 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 19:07 Zealously wrote:
On August 03 2013 19:04 Porishan wrote:
On August 03 2013 19:02 Heartland wrote:
On August 03 2013 19:02 TAMinator wrote:
Sup son after a BO win lol


It wasn't.

It was, PvP is all about BO


It's a lot about mindgames and micro as well. sOs played this game out well by hiding his twilight in the right place. Put a lot on the line for him. Don't blame it all on the BOs

it was a smart build and a good execution. but you cant hold this if executed right, it was a bo win.


Again, it was about scouting and mindgames.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 03 2013 10:09 GMT
#2346
On August 03 2013 19:08 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 19:06 Dodgin wrote:
the crowd actually looks pretty full now, the stands behind the main seats on the floor are pretty full. let's stop with the negativity. this is way better than I expected without skt kt or khan.


Khan is that popular?


3rd most popular team thanks to stork and jangbi
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 03 2013 10:09 GMT
#2347
On August 03 2013 19:08 KelsierSC wrote:
was it Hyvaa or Hydra who was in Mr Bitters Fantasy Team?


Hitman.
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
August 03 2013 10:10 GMT
#2348
On August 03 2013 19:09 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 19:08 Heartland wrote:
On August 03 2013 19:06 Dodgin wrote:
the crowd actually looks pretty full now, the stands behind the main seats on the floor are pretty full. let's stop with the negativity. this is way better than I expected without skt kt or khan.


Khan is that popular?


3rd most popular team thanks to stork and jangbi


Ah, thanks.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 03 2013 10:10 GMT
#2349
So far, not enough Elky and "Nice to see you again".
LiquipediaWanderer
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
August 03 2013 10:11 GMT
#2350
On August 03 2013 18:49 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 18:43 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On August 03 2013 18:41 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On August 03 2013 18:39 FabledIntegral wrote:
Soulkey needed roaches or infestors... but I can't help but feel he played really well at the same time... such early domination and like 40+ scvs killed from awesomely timed attacks... wowowow

maybe faster ultras would help, idk.


Yeah. I think he should have started his 2-2 sooner. Also, since he had 4 bases he had a great economy. He also should have gotten the hive sooner. I hope Zergs can start their hive when 2/2 is 50% kind of like Terran starting their armory when 1/1 is near done. I would love to see faster 3/3 since Zerg is staying on muta/ling/bling for so long.

Also, I do think Baneling mines would have helped a bit. Just to reduce the amount of mules at the very least. Who knows, but damn they both played so good.


Do you know how much it costs to get 3-3?

Infestation pit is 100/100 and 50 seconds. Hive is 200/150 and 100 seconds. 2/2 is 375/375 and 190 seconds. Oh and you need mutalisks too right? 10 mutalisks and spire will cost you 1200/1200. And you wanted all that before 3/3? Ok you need 1875/1825 and you also need banelings and zerglings to not die during those 190 seconds. I don't see how you get the money at that stage of the game.

And suppose you barely make it to hive, 3/3 costs 500/500 and 220 seconds, adrenal glands 200/200 and 130 seconds, ultralisk cavern 150/200 and 65 seconds, chitinous plating 150/150 and 110 seconds, and you wanted ultralisks? 5 of them would cost you 1500/1000.

At the pace at which you want the upgrades done you probably need to 5 hatch before pool -.-



Yeah it is expensive. But definitely possible.
Julyzerg ftw
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
August 03 2013 10:11 GMT
#2351
On August 03 2013 19:07 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 19:04 Porishan wrote:
On August 03 2013 19:02 Heartland wrote:
On August 03 2013 19:02 TAMinator wrote:
Sup son after a BO win lol


It wasn't.

It was, PvP is all about BO


It's a lot about mindgames and micro as well. sOs played this game out well by hiding his twilight in the right place. Put a lot on the line for him. Don't blame it all on the BOs


Yeah sOS executed 4Gates blink too well ( proxy twilight as well ) but what if Dear went another build order ?
@taefoxy
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 10:11:54
August 03 2013 10:11 GMT
#2352
On August 03 2013 19:04 Porishan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 19:02 Heartland wrote:
On August 03 2013 19:02 TAMinator wrote:
Sup son after a BO win lol


It wasn't.

It was, PvP is all about BO


PvP bo can give an edge jsut like any other matchup, but it is more so as plaeyrs tend to risk more as risking in pvp gives bit more advantage than other matchups, but it's no longer bo wins. There is many safe openings that can lead you into macro, but the one dear used wasn't safe at all especially because he found out what is happening really late. It wasn't too different from PvTs situation where terran opens cc first vs blink all-in, scouts it late and is not able to defend.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
August 03 2013 10:11 GMT
#2353
This has been one of the best LR's in a long time.

It has officially passed the LR I hyped up hardcore for Round 4 SKT VS KT at the start of HoTs PL:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406409

BisuSKT beat kt that day btw.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 03 2013 10:12 GMT
#2354
Poll: What will hyvaa do

Pool before 12 (7)
 
47%

roach bane all in (4)
 
27%

nydus (4)
 
27%

15 total votes

Your vote: What will hyvaa do

(Vote): Pool before 12
(Vote): roach bane all in
(Vote): nydus



Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 03 2013 10:12 GMT
#2355
On August 03 2013 19:11 BisuDagger wrote:
This has been one of the best LR's in a long time.

It has officially passed the LR I hyped up hardcore for Round 4 SKT VS KT at the start of HoTs PL:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406409

BisuSKT beat kt that day btw.


Bisu so good.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 03 2013 10:12 GMT
#2356
On August 03 2013 19:11 BisuDagger wrote:
This has been one of the best LR's in a long time.

It has officially passed the LR I hyped up hardcore for Round 4 SKT VS KT at the start of HoTs PL:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406409

BisuSKT beat kt that day btw.

Hard to say that considering how many times did SKT get bonked by SKT in Proleague.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 03 2013 10:12 GMT
#2357
On August 03 2013 19:11 BisuDagger wrote:
This has been one of the best LR's in a long time.

It has officially passed the LR I hyped up hardcore for Round 4 SKT VS KT at the start of HoTs PL:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406409

BisuSKT beat kt that day btw.


Potentially 4 more games too!
AdministratorBreak the chains
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 03 2013 10:13 GMT
#2358
On August 03 2013 19:12 bo1b wrote:
Poll: What will hyvaa do

Pool before 12 (7)
 
47%

roach bane all in (4)
 
27%

nydus (4)
 
27%

15 total votes

Your vote: What will hyvaa do

(Vote): Pool before 12
(Vote): roach bane all in
(Vote): nydus





You think he won't do all 3?
AdministratorBreak the chains
Baozer
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden159 Posts
August 03 2013 10:13 GMT
#2359
On August 03 2013 19:06 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 19:05 Baozer wrote:
Please someone give Live Reporting in the comment a chance for us that aren't able to stream at work!


Twitch.tv Phone app.
Even if you are a operating on a brain you can catch all the action!


Don't have access to any Phones either ... :/ Only a comp that can't stream
tl2212
Profile Joined April 2013
Belize731 Posts
August 03 2013 10:13 GMT
#2360
this is the game of the night for me :D fuck yes i'm so pumped
economy over everything
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