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[OSL] RO4 Day 1 WCS Korea Season 2 2013 - Page 28

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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States997 Posts
July 30 2013 09:42 GMT
#541
Maru found innovations weakness: Strategy's so old no one ever uses them, so he'd never expect or practice for them.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 30 2013 09:42 GMT
#542
On July 30 2013 18:40 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:38 bo1b wrote:
Time to see if innovation is going to mentally crumble like he did vs soulkey, and if he will ever end up winning a korean tournament.


Season 1? Oh I see, we don't count that as Korean

Does it? It felt more like a global tournament held in korea then it did a korean tournament with weeks to prepare for each player.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
July 30 2013 09:43 GMT
#543
On July 30 2013 18:42 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:41 GolemMadness wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:39 Pandemona wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:38 Fionn wrote:
Flash - 15 years, 8 months, 11 days
Life - 15 years, 9 months, 10 days
Maru - 16 Years, 0 months, 10 days


Well fucking fuck, Maru had his birthday 10days ago >.< Now he is olddddddd


Yeah, come on. Even Mind won an MSL when he was 16.


Yeah that scrub TT


Is mind still active? I liked him. He was my favorite Vulcan.
SneX
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden377 Posts
July 30 2013 09:43 GMT
#544
Now Maru will be play supergreedy, those mindgames ^^
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
July 30 2013 09:43 GMT
#545
On July 30 2013 18:41 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:39 eonDE wrote:
Maru is just confident with his micro over Innov, so he chooses this playstyle focused on the early game. He is the Prince of Marines afterall.


Because obviously micro matters when its 4 marines and a raven vs 2 medivacs full of marines and hellions


He canceled a tank and his WM didn´t do any damage. (As Naruto already said)
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 30 2013 09:43 GMT
#546
On July 30 2013 18:42 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:40 Zealously wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:38 bo1b wrote:
Time to see if innovation is going to mentally crumble like he did vs soulkey, and if he will ever end up winning a korean tournament.


Season 1?


That's not korean, that's International.


Well I figured since he only beat Koreans to win it, but I see your point
AdministratorBreak the chains
minhblizzard
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
July 30 2013 09:43 GMT
#547
On July 30 2013 18:42 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:40 Zealously wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:38 bo1b wrote:
Time to see if innovation is going to mentally crumble like he did vs soulkey, and if he will ever end up winning a korean tournament.


Season 1?


That's not korean, that's International.

And how many non-Koreans were in that tournament?
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Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
July 30 2013 09:43 GMT
#548
On July 30 2013 18:42 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:39 Chr15t wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:38 NarutO wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:36 Chr15t wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:36 NarutO wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:34 govie wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:32 SoFrOsTy wrote:
BO losses are so awful to watch.... no entertainment. I want to see some entertaining games. BTW this style play is why Prime Terrans are so bad lately. It wins occassionally, but then what? You become MKP. Maru looked so good vs Symbol, I hope he doesn't fall into this style for too long.


Such bullshit. In tvt u need to stay on 1base longer to even have a chance to survive until 2bases... this is since hots and the hellbatpatch didnt change this fact.


No. You don't need to stay longer on one-base. The elevator could have been held, he lost a mine, cancelled the tank. It was a terrible hold.

THANK YOU


I still disagree with your statement about INnoVation.

Which one i have made so many


That he doesn't play well rounded builds and prefers to flip a coin. You can't be save against everything as Terran, in no match up. It just doesn't work or not on pro-level if you are not a billion times better and can play from behind. You have to pick some stuff you want to defend but defending against special stuff and all of it, cannot happen. Getting a turret will give a bit of safety against widowmine drops and banshees, its not a coin toss but a smart adjustment to his build.

If no banshee or widowmine drops occur, he'll be a bit behind or even as he took his expansion, but no coin toss by any means. Very solid all around (just what you wanted)

Okay i'll revert my earlier statement, your arguement seems fair
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
July 30 2013 09:43 GMT
#549
Don't you hate it when all the anti-innovation people come out when he loses a match?
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
July 30 2013 09:43 GMT
#550
On July 30 2013 18:43 Big-t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:41 BackSideAttack wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:39 eonDE wrote:
Maru is just confident with his micro over Innov, so he chooses this playstyle focused on the early game. He is the Prince of Marines afterall.


Because obviously micro matters when its 4 marines and a raven vs 2 medivacs full of marines and hellions


He canceled a tank and his WM didn´t do any damage. (As Naruto already said)


The tank wasnt even close to being done anyway so it wouldnt matter
Jaedong & Faker
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 30 2013 09:44 GMT
#551
On July 30 2013 18:43 Fearest wrote:
Don't you hate it when all the anti-innovation people come out when he loses a match?


That happens when most high-profile players lose games in embarrassing fashion
AdministratorBreak the chains
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 30 2013 09:44 GMT
#552
On July 30 2013 18:42 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:40 Zealously wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:38 bo1b wrote:
Time to see if innovation is going to mentally crumble like he did vs soulkey, and if he will ever end up winning a korean tournament.


Season 1? Oh I see, we don't count that as Korean

Does it? It felt more like a global tournament held in korea then it did a korean tournament with weeks to prepare for each player.


I don't consider it a 'korean tournament' as such.

It's just a tournament held "somewhere" rather than traditionally 'korean'
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
July 30 2013 09:44 GMT
#553
Innovation's data banks don't go back that far it seems. Need to upgrade his hard drives.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
July 30 2013 09:44 GMT
#554
On July 30 2013 18:43 minhblizzard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:42 Douillos wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:40 Zealously wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:38 bo1b wrote:
Time to see if innovation is going to mentally crumble like he did vs soulkey, and if he will ever end up winning a korean tournament.


Season 1?


That's not korean, that's International.

And how many non-Koreans were in that tournament?



DIMAGA, Stephano and TLO.
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 30 2013 09:44 GMT
#555
mh, the twitch viewer number is kinda low. i wonder how many people are using the gom player instead.
TL+ Member
veQ
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland339 Posts
July 30 2013 09:44 GMT
#556
Still seeing some Innovation fans, lets go. It shall be done
"Victory comes to those who look forward" Proud SPECTER EVO Owner - http://imgur.com/a/Me9LU
eonDE
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada371 Posts
July 30 2013 09:44 GMT
#557
On July 30 2013 18:41 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:39 eonDE wrote:
Maru is just confident with his micro over Innov, so he chooses this playstyle focused on the early game. He is the Prince of Marines afterall.


Because obviously micro matters when its 4 marines and a raven vs 2 medivacs full of marines and hellions

Because obviously you disagree with what the one and only Boxer is famous for.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 30 2013 09:44 GMT
#558
On July 30 2013 18:43 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:42 Douillos wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:40 Zealously wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:38 bo1b wrote:
Time to see if innovation is going to mentally crumble like he did vs soulkey, and if he will ever end up winning a korean tournament.


Season 1?


That's not korean, that's International.


Well I figured since he only beat Koreans to win it, but I see your point

I should have called it a star league to erase any confusion
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 09:44:39
July 30 2013 09:44 GMT
#559
On July 30 2013 18:43 Big-t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:41 BackSideAttack wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:39 eonDE wrote:
Maru is just confident with his micro over Innov, so he chooses this playstyle focused on the early game. He is the Prince of Marines afterall.


Because obviously micro matters when its 4 marines and a raven vs 2 medivacs full of marines and hellions


He canceled a tank and his WM didn´t do any damage. (As Naruto already said)


Canceling a tank isn't micro. Maru went for early game builds because he felt that was the best way to beat innovation, not because he knows his micro is better. Micro doesn't matter when you get out build ordered and out mindgamed.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
July 30 2013 09:44 GMT
#560
On July 30 2013 18:42 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 18:39 Chr15t wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:38 NarutO wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:36 Chr15t wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:36 NarutO wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:34 govie wrote:
On July 30 2013 18:32 SoFrOsTy wrote:
BO losses are so awful to watch.... no entertainment. I want to see some entertaining games. BTW this style play is why Prime Terrans are so bad lately. It wins occassionally, but then what? You become MKP. Maru looked so good vs Symbol, I hope he doesn't fall into this style for too long.


Such bullshit. In tvt u need to stay on 1base longer to even have a chance to survive until 2bases... this is since hots and the hellbatpatch didnt change this fact.


No. You don't need to stay longer on one-base. The elevator could have been held, he lost a mine, cancelled the tank. It was a terrible hold.

THANK YOU


I still disagree with your statement about INnoVation.

Which one i have made so many


That he doesn't play well rounded builds and prefers to flip a coin. You can't be save against everything as Terran, in no match up. It just doesn't work or not on pro-level if you are not a billion times better and can play from behind. You have to pick some stuff you want to defend but defending against special stuff and all of it, cannot happen. Getting a turret will give a bit of safety against widowmine drops and banshees, its not a coin toss but a smart adjustment to his build.

If no banshee or widowmine drops occur, he'll be a bit behind or even as he took his expansion, but no coin toss by any means. Very solid all around (just what you wanted)



I think the builds aren't the problem, He just has a really problem adapting properly, as the cancelled tank showed and continuous hellion building in game 1.

His early game denfense is not as good as his mid-late game. And I'm really happy to see Maru prepared and is exploiting that.
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