★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
90%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YugiOh vs Sleep Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend YugiOh vs Sleep Game 2?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
50%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
33%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YugiOh vs Sleep Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend YugiOh vs Sleep Game 3?
★★★ - Good game (2)
33%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YugiOh vs Sleep Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YongHwa vs Trap Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend YongHwa vs Trap Game 2?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
47%
★★★ - Good game (6)
35%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
12%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
6%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YongHwa vs Trap Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend YongHwa vs Trap Game 3?
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (14)
67%
★★★ - Good game (4)
19%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
10%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
5%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YongHwa vs Trap Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
17%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
13%
23 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs hyvaa Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Life vs hyvaa Game 2?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
43%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (5)
24%
★★★ - Good game (4)
19%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs hyvaa Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend Life vs hyvaa Game 3?
★★★ - Good game (10)
28%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (10)
28%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (6)
17%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (6)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4)
11%
36 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs hyvaa Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
4%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
51 total votes
Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Flash Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend EffOrt vs Flash Game 2?
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (17)
40%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (16)
37%
★★★ - Good game (8)
19%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
2%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
2%
43 total votes
Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Flash Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend EffOrt vs Flash Game 3?
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (9)
41%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (5)
23%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (4)
18%
★★★ - Good game (3)
14%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
22 total votes
Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Flash Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
For today's recommended game polls I will try using 5-star polls with descriptions for each level. Hopefully it encourages you to rate games with more thought :D
Example:
Poll: Recommend lichter vs BarbiePrime Game 1?
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (5)
45%
★★★ - Good game (2)
18%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
18%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
9%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend lichter vs BarbiePrime Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
I think life vs hyvaa is the litmus test for how hard life has been practicing recently. He's shown flashes of his previous brilliance in the last few games, so if he can convincingly win this I'll be pretty much certain life's on the road to winning tournaments again.
On July 29 2013 19:03 bo1b wrote: I think life vs hyvaa is the litmus test for how hard life has been practicing recently. He's shown flashes of his previous brilliance in the last few games, so if he can convincingly win this I'll be pretty much certain life's on the road to winning tournaments again.
Life is the only one I care about today, though I'd be happy as a LG-IM fan for Yongwha and I do like the king of Code A as a thing.
Yongwha has PvP'd his way here, so he should be k. Yugioh and Sleep are coming off ZvZ success. People like Life, and hyvaa exceeds with such a condition I believe. And Flash is Flash. I can't see Effort taking it.
On July 30 2013 01:27 cleecks wrote: Could anyone tell me where this event is being held?
Is it at Yongsan Park?
its in the gom studio gangnam
I remember Khaldor telling me it wasn't going to be at GOM studio... Unless I'm going crazy. :p Can anyone else verify where it is held at? Would hate to show up at the wrong place.
On July 30 2013 01:27 cleecks wrote: Could anyone tell me where this event is being held?
Is it at Yongsan Park?
its in the gom studio gangnam
I remember Khaldor telling me it wasn't going to be at GOM studio... Unless I'm going crazy. :p Can anyone else verify where it is held at? Would hate to show up at the wrong place.
code a is always at the gom studio, while the code s(prem league) matches are played at the yongsan studio for this season, nxt season code s and a will both be at gom studio
On July 30 2013 01:27 cleecks wrote: Could anyone tell me where this event is being held?
Is it at Yongsan Park?
its in the gom studio gangnam
I remember Khaldor telling me it wasn't going to be at GOM studio... Unless I'm going crazy. :p Can anyone else verify where it is held at? Would hate to show up at the wrong place.
code a is always at the gom studio, while the code s(prem league) matches are played at the yongsan studio for this season, nxt season code s and a will both be at gom studio
its not Code S this season, its OSL. Its still Premier League WCS, but not a GSL.
wasn't expecting so many to pick YugiOh over sleep hasn't sleep proven that he has very strong zvz? frankly it makes me nervous to see YugiOh as a favorite he's done his best work as an underdog though maybe I am just letting my own nerves get the best of me.
On July 30 2013 01:27 cleecks wrote: Could anyone tell me where this event is being held?
Is it at Yongsan Park?
its in the gom studio gangnam
I remember Khaldor telling me it wasn't going to be at GOM studio... Unless I'm going crazy. :p Can anyone else verify where it is held at? Would hate to show up at the wrong place.
code a is always at the gom studio, while the code s(prem league) matches are played at the yongsan studio for this season, nxt season code s and a will both be at gom studio
its not Code S this season, its OSL. Its still Premier League WCS, but not a GSL.
i know i wrote prem league in (), i just dont want to type so much thats why i wrote code s and im still very used to code thing
I will try to use a 5-star poll with descriptions for each star level today. Hopefully it will improve the voting distribution and it wont just be 5s and 1s as usual =/
On July 30 2013 10:31 lichter wrote: I will try to use a 5-star poll with descriptions for each star level today. Hopefully it will improve the voting distribution and it wont just be 5s and 1s as usual =/
Why the need to change? 5s & 1s are the reason YouTube changed.
On July 30 2013 10:31 lichter wrote: I will try to use a 5-star poll with descriptions for each star level today. Hopefully it will improve the voting distribution and it wont just be 5s and 1s as usual =/
Why the need to change? 5s & 1s are the reason YouTube changed.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
90%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
10%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YugiOh vs Sleep Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On July 30 2013 13:08 Shellshock1122 wrote: Don't like Yugioh's choice of build here I feel like we see this fail more often than succeed these days.
Agreed, I feel it hits too late without enough lings to do much. Can straight 10 pool get some free wins?
Only against hatch first. Straight 10 pool is either even or slightly behind against pool hatch.
Based on that game alone (which is a horrible way to asses a build, but I'm going to do it anyway), how is it any worse than the build YuGiOh just did then?
On July 30 2013 13:08 Shellshock1122 wrote: Don't like Yugioh's choice of build here I feel like we see this fail more often than succeed these days.
Agreed, I feel it hits too late without enough lings to do much. Can straight 10 pool get some free wins?
Only against hatch first. Straight 10 pool is either even or slightly behind against pool hatch.
Based on that game alone (which is a horrible way to asses a build, but I'm going to do it anyway), how is it any worse than the build YuGiOh just did then?
Yugioh's build is a HARD counter against hatch first. It takes extreme skill (Like Leenock) to hold. 10 pool is a nice counter, but most top level zergs generally come out just behind or slightly behind.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
50%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
33%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YugiOh vs Sleep Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Poll: Recommend YugiOh vs Sleep Game 3?
★★★ - Good game (2)
33%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
17%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
17%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
17%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YugiOh vs Sleep Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On July 30 2013 13:08 Shellshock1122 wrote: Don't like Yugioh's choice of build here I feel like we see this fail more often than succeed these days.
Agreed, I feel it hits too late without enough lings to do much. Can straight 10 pool get some free wins?
Only against hatch first. Straight 10 pool is either even or slightly behind against pool hatch.
Based on that game alone (which is a horrible way to asses a build, but I'm going to do it anyway), how is it any worse than the build YuGiOh just did then?
Yugioh's build is a HARD counter against hatch first. It takes extreme skill (Like Leenock) to hold. 10 pool is a nice counter, but most top level zergs generally come out just behind or slightly behind.
On July 30 2013 13:08 Shellshock1122 wrote: Don't like Yugioh's choice of build here I feel like we see this fail more often than succeed these days.
Agreed, I feel it hits too late without enough lings to do much. Can straight 10 pool get some free wins?
Only against hatch first. Straight 10 pool is either even or slightly behind against pool hatch.
Based on that game alone (which is a horrible way to asses a build, but I'm going to do it anyway), how is it any worse than the build YuGiOh just did then?
Yugioh's build is a HARD counter against hatch first. It takes extreme skill (Like Leenock) to hold. 10 pool is a nice counter, but most top level zergs generally come out just behind or slightly behind.
On July 30 2013 13:15 IntoTheheart wrote: Wait... Shellshock do you have the most posts in the entirety of TL?
no Konadora has the most
For now...
Give it two weeks.
What's gotten into Sleep lately? Guy has lit Code A on fire.
Yea, just a gamble. Sometimes you just have to show your opponent and the world you are willing to do literally anything so they don't randomly cut a corner on you. For example, Protosses cut corners all the time against players like Hyun, Jaedong, and Soulkey. But you don't see one Protoss cut a corner against Hyvaa or Shine ever.
why did yugioh throw so hard...had his 3rd up way faster but kept attacking into spine crawler + queen support. I picked sleep but expected a better fight.
On July 30 2013 13:08 Shellshock1122 wrote: Don't like Yugioh's choice of build here I feel like we see this fail more often than succeed these days.
Agreed, I feel it hits too late without enough lings to do much. Can straight 10 pool get some free wins?
Only against hatch first. Straight 10 pool is either even or slightly behind against pool hatch.
Based on that game alone (which is a horrible way to asses a build, but I'm going to do it anyway), how is it any worse than the build YuGiOh just did then?
Yugioh's build is a HARD counter against hatch first. It takes extreme skill (Like Leenock) to hold. 10 pool is a nice counter, but most top level zergs generally come out just behind or slightly behind.
So he basically metagamed and lost?
On July 30 2013 13:17 IntoTheheart wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 30 2013 13:15 IntoTheheart wrote: Wait... Shellshock do you have the most posts in the entirety of TL?
no Konadora has the most
For now...
Give it two weeks.
What's gotten into Sleep lately? Guy has lit Code A on fire.
Yea, just a gamble. Sometimes you just have to show your opponent and the world you are willing to do literally anything so they don't randomly cut a corner on you. For example, Protosses cut corners all the time against players like Hyun, Jaedong, and Soulkey. But you don't see one Protoss cut a corner against Hyvaa or Shine ever.
First did cut a corner against Hyvaa lol, didn't turn out too well for First
Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.
EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.
All his ZvZ games in HotS were solid and he was more than consistent back in WoL except towards the very end.
Fair enough, but if you look at the data, his ZvZ is pretty middling (though this could very well be simply because of a lack of sufficient data to make reasonable conclusion).
Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.
EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.
All his ZvZ games in HotS were solid and he was more than consistent back in WoL except towards the very end.
Fair enough, but if you look at the data, his ZvZ is pretty middling (though this could very well be simply because of a lack of sufficient data to make reasonable conclusion).
Lack of sufficient data and not taking into account the quality of the games. In this case his ZvZ stats are not inflated by playing inferior competition.
Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.
EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.
All his ZvZ games in HotS were solid and he was more than consistent back in WoL except towards the very end.
Fair enough, but if you look at the data, his ZvZ is pretty middling (though this could very well be simply because of a lack of sufficient data to make reasonable conclusion).
Lack of sufficient data and not taking into account the quality of the games. In this case his ZvZ stats are not inflated by playing inferior competition.
Forgot about inflated Aguliac by farming foreigners. Good point.
Missed the openings. Things seemed to have stabilized. Fast archons from Trap?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YongHwa vs Trap Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.
EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.
Are you saying that a 60-40 prediction is not close? If I'm not mistaken, Aligulac labels all matches 55-45 or closer as virtually even.
It gives a verdict at the top of the page when you predict something. In this case it's
Verdict: Slight advantage for YongHwa.
All I'm saying is, things don't get very much closer than 60-40.
I was attempting to express that I'm expecting an extremely close and competitive series.
In the future, instead of saying "closer than the prediction", people must say "Instead of a 60% chance to win I estimate a 56% chance, +/- 3.56% with 95% confidence"
Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.
EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.
Are you saying that a 60-40 prediction is not close? If I'm not mistaken, Aligulac labels all matches 55-45 or closer as virtually even.
It gives a verdict at the top of the page when you predict something. In this case it's
Verdict: Slight advantage for YongHwa.
All I'm saying is, things don't get very much closer than 60-40.
I was attempting to express that I'm expecting an extremely close and competitive series.
In the future, instead of saying "closer than the prediction", people must say "Instead of a 60% chance to win I estimate a 56% chance, +/- 3.56% with 95% confidence"
:D
When such statements are made, they must be accompanied by the equations used in calculating them, and include all necessary statistical assumptions that precluded the process
Yonghwa's always been a PvP monster, but I think this should be closer than the prediction indicates.
EDIT: Yonghwa's weakest matchup is PvP by a significant margin in HotS. Trap just seems to be lacking some data.
Are you saying that a 60-40 prediction is not close? If I'm not mistaken, Aligulac labels all matches 55-45 or closer as virtually even.
It gives a verdict at the top of the page when you predict something. In this case it's
Verdict: Slight advantage for YongHwa.
All I'm saying is, things don't get very much closer than 60-40.
I was attempting to express that I'm expecting an extremely close and competitive series.
In the future, instead of saying "closer than the prediction", people must say "Instead of a 60% chance to win I estimate a 56% chance, +/- 3.56% with 95% confidence"
:D
When such statements are made, they must be accompanied by the equations used in calculating them, and include all necessary statistical assumptions that precluded the process
I should just make "See Bell Curves" as my signature.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
47%
★★★ - Good game (6)
35%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (2)
12%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
6%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
17 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YongHwa vs Trap Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
10%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
5%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend YongHwa vs Trap Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On July 30 2013 14:08 lichter wrote: I hope hyvaa wins
lichter confirmed to hate fun.
Just kidding, I think hyvaa's hilarious to watch.
Nah I just don't like Life
and hyvaa's games are hilarious
obviously hyvaa will fall to the up and downs so he and soO can end up in a group with Leenock, Marineking, and DRG and deny all 3 the NesTea award together
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
17%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
13%
23 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs hyvaa Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On July 30 2013 14:14 bittman wrote: Hahahaha holy shit.
Where's the Life I was a fan of once upon a time?
Bandwaggoner!
=(
It's true.
Well Life was a player that I liked watching at his peak, but don't care for otherwise. If he's not at his peak...if I don't see that sweet ling control...
That's why he's lower in my signature =P EDIT: which I might need to re-order. Dream far more fun to watch than Life at the moment...
On July 30 2013 14:14 bittman wrote: Hahahaha holy shit.
Where's the Life I was a fan of once upon a time?
Bandwaggoner!
=(
It's true.
Well Life was a player that I liked watching at his peak, but don't care for otherwise. If he's not at his peak...if I don't see that sweet ling control...
That's why he's lower in my signature =P EDIT: which I might need to re-order. Dream far more fun to watch than Life at the moment...
You've got drg higher then life, which is strange if you order it based on performance
On July 30 2013 14:14 bittman wrote: Hahahaha holy shit.
Where's the Life I was a fan of once upon a time?
Bandwaggoner!
=(
It's true.
Well Life was a player that I liked watching at his peak, but don't care for otherwise. If he's not at his peak...if I don't see that sweet ling control...
That's why he's lower in my signature =P EDIT: which I might need to re-order. Dream far more fun to watch than Life at the moment...
You've got drg higher then life, which is strange if you order it based on performance
Watching DRG recently is definitely not fun poor guy. I want him to do good!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
43%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (5)
24%
★★★ - Good game (4)
19%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs hyvaa Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On July 30 2013 14:20 Shellshock1122 wrote: Newkirk is hyvaa's worst cheese map. This was the same map and spawn as his 6 pool vs fantasy
Wait he tried to 6pool Fantasy? Why?
Because he's hyvaa. It was a 3 min game failed 6 pool where he just got blocked on the ramp and lost all his units lol. Then he ended up winning the bo3 anyways
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (9)
43%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (5)
24%
★★★ - Good game (4)
19%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (3)
14%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs hyvaa Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
I like your 'guide to voting'
Everyone usually goes 5 or 1 star, with some 2's dabbled in.
On July 30 2013 14:20 Shellshock1122 wrote: Newkirk is hyvaa's worst cheese map. This was the same map and spawn as his 6 pool vs fantasy
Wait he tried to 6pool Fantasy? Why?
Because he's hyvaa. It was a 3 min game failed 6 pool where he just got blocked on the ramp and lost all his units lol. Then he ended up winning the bo3 anyways
It seems that hyvaa is involved in quite a few of the most stupid games in HotS.
I still can't believe Rain dropped that game to him, ugh.
On July 30 2013 14:20 Shellshock1122 wrote: Newkirk is hyvaa's worst cheese map. This was the same map and spawn as his 6 pool vs fantasy
Wait he tried to 6pool Fantasy? Why?
Because he's hyvaa. It was a 3 min game failed 6 pool where he just got blocked on the ramp and lost all his units lol. Then he ended up winning the bo3 anyways
On July 30 2013 14:14 bittman wrote: Hahahaha holy shit.
Where's the Life I was a fan of once upon a time?
Bandwaggoner!
=(
It's true.
Well Life was a player that I liked watching at his peak, but don't care for otherwise. If he's not at his peak...if I don't see that sweet ling control...
That's why he's lower in my signature =P EDIT: which I might need to re-order. Dream far more fun to watch than Life at the moment...
You've got drg higher then life, which is strange if you order it based on performance
Huh I typed this thing on how I like MC more regardless of performance and it vanished...
UnexplainableLove > Personality > Fun > Skill for me pretty much.
On July 30 2013 14:24 DidYuhim wrote: Life needs his own GSL statistics - winning after losing game 1.
That's a pretty low number seeing how he got wrecked 2-0 by both Soulkey and RorO twice in the Ro16... and those 8 games are 8 of his losses.
He was 100% after winning the first map for a looong time (still is?) so yeah his losses actually do come from not having the momentum. It's just strange because every time he wins a finals he does it through a comeback.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (10)
28%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (6)
17%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (6)
17%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4)
11%
36 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Life vs hyvaa Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
I just don't know anymore. Not getting upgrades almost never pay out :\ He should have maxed out and pulled all drones, he would have had such an army lead that way.
On July 30 2013 14:35 Rhaegal wrote: Why are they so critical...
that attack won the game for Hyvaa.. come on guys.
Just because it worked out doesn't mean it was smart. Hyvaa won because he already had the lead to help. By all accounts that move and engagement was dumb.
On July 30 2013 14:37 VisonKai wrote: Agh.. well, I still have Bomber I guess. And Life should hopefully make it through U&D, though I'm a little worried.
As long as he does not need to play ZvZ he should be alright his ZvT is still is insanely good, and his ZvP isn't bad either.
On July 30 2013 14:38 SniXSniPe wrote: lol woooooooooow.
Life was 55ish drones vs 44ish drones with his 3rd hatchery done quicker than Hyvaa.
Then Life goes through with a terrible attack and loses way too much.
Then hyvaa attacks with terrible positioning and loses his army.
Then Life derps and attacks, despite him not having much units after that first engagement.
Life pulled 20 drones to kill Hyvaa's attack. So the drone count was 68 - 34 or something. Life's last attack was bad, but there was some logic to it.
That's the worst part. He was behind in drone count for most of the midgame and fell behind in production too. So he needed a meat shield in the first place to even hold the attack.
On July 30 2013 14:38 SniXSniPe wrote: lol woooooooooow.
Life was 55ish drones vs 44ish drones with his 3rd hatchery done quicker than Hyvaa.
Then Life goes through with a terrible attack and loses way too much.
Then hyvaa attacks with terrible positioning and loses his army.
Then Life derps and attacks, despite him not having much units after that first engagement.
Life pulled 20 drones to kill Hyvaa's attack. So the drone count was 68 - 34 or something. Life's last attack was bad, but there was some logic to it.
Legend showed all the bases
You could see he had a shit economy with no way to recover with hyvaa already on a 4th base.
Life had no choice but to attack and hope for the best
But khaldor said life had a chance if he didn't!
Possibly thinking of how full retard Hyvaa went on that engagement.
He had a supply lead after the fight. Just because casters scream that the attack was dumb, doesn't mean you have to listen to them unquestionably. Any fight Hyvaa took would have won the game for him.
On July 30 2013 14:38 SniXSniPe wrote: lol woooooooooow.
Life was 55ish drones vs 44ish drones with his 3rd hatchery done quicker than Hyvaa.
Then Life goes through with a terrible attack and loses way too much.
Then hyvaa attacks with terrible positioning and loses his army.
Then Life derps and attacks, despite him not having much units after that first engagement.
Life pulled 20 drones to kill Hyvaa's attack. So the drone count was 68 - 34 or something. Life's last attack was bad, but there was some logic to it.
Legend showed all the bases
You could see he had a shit economy with no way to recover with hyvaa already on a 4th base.
Life had no choice but to attack and hope for the best
But khaldor said life had a chance if he didn't!
Possibly thinking of how full retard Hyvaa went on that engagement.
He had a supply lead after the fight. Just because casters scream that the attack was dumb, doesn't mean you have to listen to them unquestionably. Any fight Hyvaa took would have won the game for him.
It was a dumb attack (half of his army couldn't even attack and he cornered himself for no reason) but it didn't matter at that point.
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
On July 30 2013 14:38 SniXSniPe wrote: lol woooooooooow.
Life was 55ish drones vs 44ish drones with his 3rd hatchery done quicker than Hyvaa.
Then Life goes through with a terrible attack and loses way too much.
Then hyvaa attacks with terrible positioning and loses his army.
Then Life derps and attacks, despite him not having much units after that first engagement.
Life pulled 20 drones to kill Hyvaa's attack. So the drone count was 68 - 34 or something. Life's last attack was bad, but there was some logic to it.
Legend showed all the bases
You could see he had a shit economy with no way to recover with hyvaa already on a 4th base.
Life had no choice but to attack and hope for the best
But khaldor said life had a chance if he didn't!
Possibly thinking of how full retard Hyvaa went on that engagement.
He had a supply lead after the fight. Just because casters scream that the attack was dumb, doesn't mean you have to listen to them unquestionably. Any fight Hyvaa took would have won the game for him.
It was a shockingly dumb attack, it just didn't matter because he was already so ahead. There is literally 0 times when such an attack would've been optimal.
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
I'd imagine that he read something (message or something) that made him laugh. I'm sure he isn't so arrogant that he laughs after he loses. ZvZ is a pretty volatile matchup, and the fact that you belittle him is kind of ignorant to the fact that Life is a champion in nearly every tournament circuit, all happening in the last year or so. Take your negativity elsewhere.
I hope EffOrt loses so we can see him get mad when a player he thinks he is better than cheeses him and he doesn't leave a Up & Down game for 10+ minutes after he's dead.
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
On July 30 2013 14:38 SniXSniPe wrote: lol woooooooooow.
Life was 55ish drones vs 44ish drones with his 3rd hatchery done quicker than Hyvaa.
Then Life goes through with a terrible attack and loses way too much.
Then hyvaa attacks with terrible positioning and loses his army.
Then Life derps and attacks, despite him not having much units after that first engagement.
Life pulled 20 drones to kill Hyvaa's attack. So the drone count was 68 - 34 or something. Life's last attack was bad, but there was some logic to it.
Legend showed all the bases
You could see he had a shit economy with no way to recover with hyvaa already on a 4th base.
Life had no choice but to attack and hope for the best
But khaldor said life had a chance if he didn't!
Possibly thinking of how full retard Hyvaa went on that engagement.
He had a supply lead after the fight. Just because casters scream that the attack was dumb, doesn't mean you have to listen to them unquestionably. Any fight Hyvaa took would have won the game for him.
It was a shockingly dumb attack, it just didn't matter because he was already so ahead. There is literally 0 times when such an attack would've been optimal.
I was trying to think along with his line of reasoning, and I think he was going for "the only way I'll get him to fight me is if I make him think it's a good attack for him."
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
You can't say he wasn't a prodigy when he got 5 premier wins in a row.
Not in a row though, he lost several where he didn't make top4.
When he won the GSL against Mvp and the Blizzard Cup, Iron Squid he was definetely top of the food chain.
Yeah, but that wasn't the point, people already know that. But he didn't win 5 premier in a row, he lost in 2 GSLs and IPL during that period, Ro16 in the GSLs and 17-24th in IPL.
On July 30 2013 14:38 SniXSniPe wrote: lol woooooooooow.
Life was 55ish drones vs 44ish drones with his 3rd hatchery done quicker than Hyvaa.
Then Life goes through with a terrible attack and loses way too much.
Then hyvaa attacks with terrible positioning and loses his army.
Then Life derps and attacks, despite him not having much units after that first engagement.
Life pulled 20 drones to kill Hyvaa's attack. So the drone count was 68 - 34 or something. Life's last attack was bad, but there was some logic to it.
Legend showed all the bases
You could see he had a shit economy with no way to recover with hyvaa already on a 4th base.
Life had no choice but to attack and hope for the best
But khaldor said life had a chance if he didn't!
Possibly thinking of how full retard Hyvaa went on that engagement.
He had a supply lead after the fight. Just because casters scream that the attack was dumb, doesn't mean you have to listen to them unquestionably. Any fight Hyvaa took would have won the game for him.
It was a shockingly dumb attack, it just didn't matter because he was already so ahead. There is literally 0 times when such an attack would've been optimal.
I was trying to think along with his line of reasoning, and I think he was going for "the only way I'll get him to fight me is if I make him think it's a good attack for him."
1a into natural works as well and probably would have been better
On July 30 2013 14:38 SniXSniPe wrote: lol woooooooooow.
Life was 55ish drones vs 44ish drones with his 3rd hatchery done quicker than Hyvaa.
Then Life goes through with a terrible attack and loses way too much.
Then hyvaa attacks with terrible positioning and loses his army.
Then Life derps and attacks, despite him not having much units after that first engagement.
Life pulled 20 drones to kill Hyvaa's attack. So the drone count was 68 - 34 or something. Life's last attack was bad, but there was some logic to it.
Legend showed all the bases
You could see he had a shit economy with no way to recover with hyvaa already on a 4th base.
Life had no choice but to attack and hope for the best
But khaldor said life had a chance if he didn't!
Possibly thinking of how full retard Hyvaa went on that engagement.
He had a supply lead after the fight. Just because casters scream that the attack was dumb, doesn't mean you have to listen to them unquestionably. Any fight Hyvaa took would have won the game for him.
It was a shockingly dumb attack, it just didn't matter because he was already so ahead. There is literally 0 times when such an attack would've been optimal.
I was trying to think along with his line of reasoning, and I think he was going for "the only way I'll get him to fight me is if I make him think it's a good attack for him."
He could have a moved from his base to lifes main with better results...
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
You can't say he wasn't a prodigy when he got 5 premier wins in a row.
Not in a row though, he lost several where he didn't make top4.
When he won the GSL against Mvp and the Blizzard Cup, Iron Squid he was definetely top of the food chain.
Yeah, but that wasn't the point, people already know that. But he didn't win 5 premier in a row, he lost in 2 GSLs and IPL during that period, Ro16 in the GSLs and 17-24th in IPL.
He did win one premier event a month though didn't he? (Not counting January or Feb when there were no tournaments)
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
You can't say he wasn't a prodigy when he got 5 premier wins in a row.
Not in a row though, he lost several where he didn't make top4.
When he won the GSL against Mvp and the Blizzard Cup, Iron Squid he was definetely top of the food chain.
Yeah, but that wasn't the point, people already know that. But he didn't win 5 premier in a row, he lost in 2 GSLs and IPL during that period, Ro16 in the GSLs and 17-24th in IPL.
He did win one premier event a month though didn't he? (Not counting January or Feb when there were no tournaments)
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first time he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
Kinda ironic really, cause I've always thought edgeOut was rather arrogant lol
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
It looks quite arrogant and stupid imo... Flash used to do the same thing.
Last thoughts before Effort vs. Flash starts, Life is basically pulling a Flash and winning a bunch, slumping hard, then he's going to win even more crap in maybe eight months (Adjusting for SC2's quicker timetable)
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
4%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (0)
0%
51 total votes
Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Flash Game 1?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I don't get it. Where were effort's lings while drones were blocking barracks? If lings were there wouldn't it have been impossible for flash to hold while drones were blocking? Flash easily dealt with the drones with no lings there.
On July 30 2013 14:54 Canucklehead wrote: I don't get it. Where were effort's lings while drones were blocking barracks. If lings were there wouldn't it have been impossible for flash to hold while drones were blocking? Flash easily dealt with the drones with no lings there.
Hiding from the SCV scout... They didn't hide very well.
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
You can't say he wasn't a prodigy when he got 5 premier wins in a row.
Not in a row though, he lost several where he didn't make top4.
When he won the GSL against Mvp and the Blizzard Cup, Iron Squid he was definetely top of the food chain.
Yeah, but that wasn't the point, people already know that. But he didn't win 5 premier in a row, he lost in 2 GSLs and IPL during that period, Ro16 in the GSLs and 17-24th in IPL.
He did win one premier event a month though didn't he? (Not counting January or Feb when there were no tournaments)
Is your criteria the date the tournament ends or begins? Should be ends imo. Either way the answer is no. EDIT: maybe, will have to see exact dates, but such a feat isn't that noteworthy anyways. EDIT2: Answer is still no.
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
On July 30 2013 14:56 Doko wrote: was his barracks out of position? why the cancel
It was too far to the left.
On July 30 2013 14:56 Blix wrote: This could only work against a blind CC first on the low ground right?
Might work if mishandled too. Had Flash not gotten his barracks up, he probably would have had to engineering bay block or something, but it wouldn't have been pretty.
On July 30 2013 14:54 Shellshock1122 wrote: EffOrt's ZvT confidence is shattered after WCG Korea
When you lose to MKP, your confidence jumps off a cliff.
even more when you lose in the fashion he did. Game 1 he gets away with 3 hatch before pool and no pressure until 2-2 for both players. Still got out macroed. Game 2 didn't hold the 2 rax pressure very well. Died to a combat shield timing follow up. EffOrt just didn't look good at all in either game although MKP did look a lot better than he has lately to his credit.
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
It looks quite arrogant and stupid imo... Flash used to do the same thing.
I guess CJ hero is the most arrogant player in SC2
On July 30 2013 14:53 Rhaegal wrote: Called it. Flash is the last person you want to 6 pool. He scouts before CC every cc first. Bad research from Effort.
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
I havent seen you start school-yard feet stamping about it though
On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
On July 30 2013 14:53 Rhaegal wrote: Called it. Flash is the last person you want to 6 pool. He scouts before CC every cc first. Bad research from Effort.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card.
His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
[QUOTE]On July 30 2013 14:54 liberate71 wrote: [QUOTE]On July 30 2013 14:53 zefreak wrote: [QUOTE]On July 30 2013 14:51 edgeOut wrote: [QUOTE]On July 30 2013 14:47 DidYuhim wrote: [QUOTE]On July 30 2013 14:45 edgeOut wrote: [QUOTE]On July 30 2013 14:41 IPA wrote: [QUOTE]On July 30 2013 14:38 edgeOut wrote: Not smiling any more, hah, prodigy.[/QUOTE]
Your bitter envy isn't very becoming.
Kind of a painful series but grats hyvaa. He's a wild card. [/QUOTE] His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.[/QUOTE] It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.[/QUOTE] If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.[/QUOTE]
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.[/QUOTE]
Yes i'm quite bitter about him losing to Hyvaa 1-2. How dare he takes one game off Hyvaa.
On July 30 2013 14:45 edgeOut wrote: [quote] His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
On July 30 2013 14:47 DidYuhim wrote: [quote] It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Yay Stork! (obviously I fanboy Stork...)
@The game:
Looks like Flash overturtled.
Doesn't matter, he has salvage. As long as he takes a third reasonably soon, he'll be okay. Unfortunately for him, his upgrades are incredibly late.
On July 30 2013 14:45 edgeOut wrote: [quote] His dont care attitude toward the game is arrogant, it shows that he doesn't practice hard enough. If he really practiced his heart out last week, he won't have that big smile after game one.
It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
On July 30 2013 14:51 edgeOut wrote: [quote] If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Yay Stork! (obviously I fanboy Stork...)
@The game:
Looks like Flash overturtled.
Doesn't matter, he has salvage. As long as he takes a third reasonably soon, he'll be okay. Unfortunately for him, his upgrades are incredibly late.
oh hey, I just remembered that Flash and KT had that big announcement that they were going to start streaming, right? and how that was like a month ago? and how nothing has happened?
I love how safe Flash is playing this. That´s not a sign of insecurity, but of absolute confidence to win a straight up game. And he´s already ahead in supply
On July 30 2013 14:47 DidYuhim wrote: [quote] It's really sad that you think that person is arrogant when he just enjoys playing the game, regardless of when he wins or when he loses.
I think you need to reconsider your attitude towards the game.
If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Lichter's favorite games in no particular order:
Sase vs random Swedish kid.
Bubbles vs random American Kid.
Nada vs Leenock
Maru vs San
I think my favorite game ever is Nestea vs Choya on Star Station
Nestea holds 4gate stargate attack with 1 zergling 1 queen
On July 30 2013 15:04 negativedge wrote: oh hey, I just remembered that Flash and KT had that big announcement that they were going to start streaming, right? and how that was like a month ago? and how nothing has happened?
(reminds me of pizza.gg...)
Maybe they're waiting for Proleague to end.
Speaking of Proleague, is the finals roster announced?
On July 30 2013 15:04 Daswollvieh wrote: I love how safe Flash is playing this. That´s not a sign of insecurity, but of absolute confidence to win a straight up game. And he´s already ahead in supply
On July 30 2013 14:51 edgeOut wrote: [quote] If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Lichter's favorite games in no particular order:
Sase vs random Swedish kid.
Bubbles vs random American Kid.
Nada vs Leenock
Maru vs San
I think my favorite game ever is Nestea vs Choya on Star Station
Nestea holds 4gate stargate attack with 1 zergling 1 queen
I don't remember that game, but that sounds like something Choya would do.
On July 30 2013 14:51 edgeOut wrote: [quote] If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Lichter's favorite games in no particular order:
Sase vs random Swedish kid.
Bubbles vs random American Kid.
Nada vs Leenock
Maru vs San
I think my favorite game ever is Nestea vs Choya on Star Station
Nestea holds 4gate stargate attack with 1 zergling 1 queen
On July 30 2013 14:51 edgeOut wrote: [quote] If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Lichter's favorite games in no particular order:
Sase vs random Swedish kid.
Bubbles vs random American Kid.
Nada vs Leenock
Maru vs San
I think my favorite game ever is Nestea vs Choya on Star Station
Nestea holds 4gate stargate attack with 1 zergling 1 queen
Obviously Choya was waiting for the part where they pause the game and play rock paper scissors for ladder points
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Lichter's favorite games in no particular order:
Sase vs random Swedish kid.
Bubbles vs random American Kid.
Nada vs Leenock
Maru vs San
I think my favorite game ever is Nestea vs Choya on Star Station
Nestea holds 4gate stargate attack with 1 zergling 1 queen
I don't remember that game, but that sounds like something Choya would do.
Void ray into nexus. But it's a fake nexus as he gets 4 gates, kills the overlord that scouts it, cancels the nexus and tries to bust Nestea. By the time the army is on Nestea's side of scrap station, Nestea has 1 ling, 1 queen 1 spore.
On July 30 2013 15:04 negativedge wrote: oh hey, I just remembered that Flash and KT had that big announcement that they were going to start streaming, right? and how that was like a month ago? and how nothing has happened?
(reminds me of pizza.gg...)
Maybe they're waiting for Proleague to end.
Speaking of Proleague, is the finals roster announced?
On July 29 2013 22:54 scr wrote: If i wake up and see that Hyvaa cheesed out Life i will be a very angry zergling.
oh shit..
Honestly, only the first of Hyvaa's wins could even remotely be considered a cheese, though it was more of a mass ling allin. The last game he won was straight up win.
On July 30 2013 14:51 edgeOut wrote: [quote] If you think they are just playing a game, you need rethink. They are competing for money and their career, this is not the first he shows his arrogance, and at the same time, ignorance.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Lichter's favorite games in no particular order:
Sase vs random Swedish kid.
Bubbles vs random American Kid.
Nada vs Leenock
Maru vs San
I think my favorite game ever is Nestea vs Choya on Star Station
Nestea holds 4gate stargate attack with 1 zergling 1 queen
You mean Scrap Station, right? That game was the sickness.
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Lichter's favorite games in no particular order:
Sase vs random Swedish kid.
Bubbles vs random American Kid.
Nada vs Leenock
Maru vs San
I think my favorite game ever is Nestea vs Choya on Star Station
Nestea holds 4gate stargate attack with 1 zergling 1 queen
And a spore!
I like how no one noticed I should have said Scrap Station
Wow, a genuine Life anti-fan. Didn't know those existed. Must take some impressive mental gymnastics to see a 15/16 year old who is always happy to play in such a negative light.
No kidding. It's not the first time I've seen bitter posts from edgeOut though, so I'm not surprised.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Lichter's favorite games in no particular order:
Sase vs random Swedish kid.
Bubbles vs random American Kid.
Nada vs Leenock
Maru vs San
I think my favorite game ever is Nestea vs Choya on Star Station
Nestea holds 4gate stargate attack with 1 zergling 1 queen
I don't remember that game, but that sounds like something Choya would do.
Wasn't that Fruitdealer ? I distinctly remember that game (zerg was on the right of the map =) )
On July 30 2013 15:21 MrMotionPicture wrote: I wish they wouldn't say "The game is over" for like ten minutes. It ruins the atmosphere :/
Welcome to Korean tournaments, basically every English caster in Korea does this. I agree it's annoying, most of us can tell when a game is over, no reason to ruin it.
On July 30 2013 15:21 MrMotionPicture wrote: I wish they wouldn't say "The game is over" for like ten minutes. It ruins the atmosphere :/
Welcome to Korean tournaments, basically every English caster in Korea does this. I agree it's annoying, most of us can tell when a game is over, no reason to ruin it.
Down to 7 SCV's vs 30+... nah I'll just win, fuck the casters - Mvp
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
2%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
2%
43 total votes
Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Flash Game 2?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
22 total votes
Your vote: Recommend EffOrt vs Flash Game 3?
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
I feel as if he'd have to win the GSL and the Season Finals... or get some invite thing as well.
I'm a Life anti-fan. I don't like his smugness and I don't like prodigies lol
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Lichter's favorite games in no particular order:
Sase vs random Swedish kid.
Bubbles vs random American Kid.
Nada vs Leenock
Maru vs San
I think my favorite game ever is Nestea vs Choya on Star Station
Nestea holds 4gate stargate attack with 1 zergling 1 queen
I don't remember that game, but that sounds like something Choya would do.
Wasn't that Fruitdealer ? I distinctly remember that game (zerg was on the right of the map =) )
Didn't Fruitdealer retire at least a year before Star Station became a map?
One of us (me perhaps =)) is mixing things up, star station was a map available on sc2 release, the game they talk about was from open season 1 I think.
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
I feel as if he'd have to win the GSL and the Season Finals... or get some invite thing as well.
Its top 16, so I think he'd get heaps of points from a 1st in GSL, though I dont know whos been consistently floating in all the tournies to accumulate more than that.
Life for example is kinda screwed unless he wins the GSL.
So if you don't mind me asking, how did you like Flash in BW early in his career?
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Lichter's favorite games in no particular order:
Sase vs random Swedish kid.
Bubbles vs random American Kid.
Nada vs Leenock
Maru vs San
I think my favorite game ever is Nestea vs Choya on Star Station
Nestea holds 4gate stargate attack with 1 zergling 1 queen
I don't remember that game, but that sounds like something Choya would do.
Wasn't that Fruitdealer ? I distinctly remember that game (zerg was on the right of the map =) )
Didn't Fruitdealer retire at least a year before Star Station became a map?
One of us (me perhaps =)) is mixing things up, star station was a map available on sc2 release, the game they talk about was from open season 1 I think.
lichter mistakenly called scrap station star station
On July 30 2013 15:23 GolemMadness wrote: Fun fact: Flash has now won 10 straight games in code A.
Flash has really awkward history in SC2 so far.
Whenever he gets to Ro16 in GSL he starts slumping in both Proleague and GSL, he gets 0-4'd, and then he proceeds owning everyone. I really wish he could get past Ro16.
I'm not a big Flash fan either? To this day I just appreciate his talent but never liked him.
Also explains why I don't like Maru even though he is a qtpie
We got a proper hipster hater here
I don't hate Flash because he is older now
I only hate the kids and cheer for old people like Stork and Nestea
Bec I am old lol
Lichter's favorite games in no particular order:
Sase vs random Swedish kid.
Bubbles vs random American Kid.
Nada vs Leenock
Maru vs San
I think my favorite game ever is Nestea vs Choya on Star Station
Nestea holds 4gate stargate attack with 1 zergling 1 queen
I don't remember that game, but that sounds like something Choya would do.
Wasn't that Fruitdealer ? I distinctly remember that game (zerg was on the right of the map =) )
Didn't Fruitdealer retire at least a year before Star Station became a map?
One of us (me perhaps =)) is mixing things up, star station was a map available on sc2 release, the game they talk about was from open season 1 I think.
lichter mistakenly called scrap station star station
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
On July 30 2013 15:23 GolemMadness wrote: Fun fact: Flash has now won 10 straight games in code A.
Flash has really awkward history in SC2 so far.
Whenever he gets to Ro16 in GSL he starts slumping in both Proleague and GSL, he gets 0-4'd, and then he proceeds owning everyone. I really wish he could get past Ro16.
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
Yeah but you have to consider that a lot of WCS points from this season are still missing since the regions are still being played out. It would be a crying shame if he wasn't there, especially with how he's been playing
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
Yeah but you have to consider that a lot of WCS points from this season are still missing since the regions are still being played out. It would be a crying shame if he wasn't there, especially with how he's been playing
Yeah this is true. I'd say he'll end up in the top 16 even if he flunks next season aswell.
Guess it depends on a lot of the other tournies and other placements of people like Dimaga, TLO, Stephano, Lucifron etc.
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
Yeah but you have to consider that a lot of WCS points from this season are still missing since the regions are still being played out. It would be a crying shame if he wasn't there, especially with how he's been playing
I wouldn't worry if I were you. He has more than twice as many points as the player ranked #14...
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
HerO is probably in he has a lot of points.
Someone should write a script that can somehow 'lock' people into the qualify based on the rest of the years point distribution.
I think Innovation and Soulkey are the only two, definitely Innovation.
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
HerO is probably in he has a lot of points.
Someone should write a script that can somehow 'lock' people into the qualify based on the rest of the years point distribution.
I think Innovation and Soulkey are the only two, definitely Innovation.
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
HerO is probably in he has a lot of points.
Someone should write a script that can somehow 'lock' people into the qualify based on the rest of the years point distribution.
I think Innovation and Soulkey are the only two, definitely Innovation.
Impossible to do unless we get a schedule for all the remaining non-WCS events and their points allocations.
It's actually not that hard to do but kinda tedious to write
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
HerO is probably in he has a lot of points.
Someone should write a script that can somehow 'lock' people into the qualify based on the rest of the years point distribution.
I think Innovation and Soulkey are the only two, definitely Innovation.
I think due to the number of players and tournaments, that type of script would be very complex. Although almost every player is still mathematically a possibility at this point, we have to remember that if one of the top players Innovation/Soulkey/Mvp etc wins KR/EU and also does well in Global S2, they take a lot of points off the table.
If I had to guess, the qualifying cut-off will be around 3500-4000 points.
On July 30 2013 15:39 bo1b wrote: Is there point decay in the wcs? I'd assume there is but it is blizzard...
I don't think there should be point decay within one year of WCS, since the purpose is to have the most consistent players as well as the champions of each season ideally at Blizzcon. They will probably apply decay for previous years once we get to WCS Year 2
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
HerO is probably in he has a lot of points.
Someone should write a script that can somehow 'lock' people into the qualify based on the rest of the years point distribution.
I think Innovation and Soulkey are the only two, definitely Innovation.
Maybe MVP if he can when he wins the WCS EU.
Fixed that for you But in all seriousness, #2-5 are only separated by 500 points, they all have a pretty good shot at making it considering they're all basically double the bottom of the qualifying list, although with how much further along WCS Korea is in their tourny, there's obviously a bit of wiggle room.
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
HerO is probably in he has a lot of points.
Someone should write a script that can somehow 'lock' people into the qualify based on the rest of the years point distribution.
I think Innovation and Soulkey are the only two, definitely Innovation.
I think due to the number of players and tournaments, that type of script would be very complex. Although almost every player is still mathematically a possibility at this point, we have to remember that if one of the top players Innovation/Soulkey/Mvp etc wins KR/EU and also does well in Global S2, they take a lot of points off the table.
It'd be complex because of the number of players and tournaments yeah
You're not going to take into consideration possibilities or likely scenarios, just each person's best/worst possible scenario. Once a person has a worst possible scenario better than everyone but 15 other people's best case scenario, he gets locked into the grand finals.
The problem is updating it, since each person has different best/worst case scenarios. Each round changes things.
'Simple' in a way but really tedious to do. Won't be worth it until the backend of Season 3.
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
HerO is probably in he has a lot of points.
Someone should write a script that can somehow 'lock' people into the qualify based on the rest of the years point distribution.
I think Innovation and Soulkey are the only two, definitely Innovation.
Maybe MVP if he can when he wins the WCS EU.
Fixed that for you But in all seriousness, #2-5 are only separated by 500 points, they all have a pretty good shot at making it considering they're all basically double the bottom of the qualifying list, although with how much further along WCS Korea is in their tourny, there's obviously a bit of wiggle room.
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
HerO is probably in he has a lot of points.
Someone should write a script that can somehow 'lock' people into the qualify based on the rest of the years point distribution.
I think Innovation and Soulkey are the only two, definitely Innovation.
I think due to the number of players and tournaments, that type of script would be very complex. Although almost every player is still mathematically a possibility at this point, we have to remember that if one of the top players Innovation/Soulkey/Mvp etc wins KR/EU and also does well in Global S2, they take a lot of points off the table.
Unless I'm missing something, in order to determine if its mathematically possible for innovation to be knocked out, all you'd have to do is total the total number of available points for the rest of the year and divide by 16? If that number isn't greater then innovations current amount of points then it simply isn't possible for him to be knocked out.
edit: that assumes point distribution is equal :\ silly me :p
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
HerO is probably in he has a lot of points.
Someone should write a script that can somehow 'lock' people into the qualify based on the rest of the years point distribution.
I think Innovation and Soulkey are the only two, definitely Innovation.
I think due to the number of players and tournaments, that type of script would be very complex. Although almost every player is still mathematically a possibility at this point, we have to remember that if one of the top players Innovation/Soulkey/Mvp etc wins KR/EU and also does well in Global S2, they take a lot of points off the table.
It'd be complex because of the number of players and tournaments yeah
You're not going to take into consideration possibilities or likely scenarios, just each person's best/worst possible scenario. Once a person has a worst possible scenario better than everyone but 15 other people's best case scenario, he gets locked into the grand finals.
The problem is updating it, since each person has different best/worst case scenarios. Each round changes things.
'Simple' in a way but really tedious to do. Won't be worth it until the backend of Season 3.
Yes, but even if you look at one 'season', anyone in the top division of NA/KR/EU CAN get 4,500 points + Tier 1 events. So we are looking at something like 7,500 points even if that person has 0 to begin the season. And only 1 person can get 4,500 in one season from WCS, the next person can only get 3,500 so that has to be taken into consideration as well. Again, too many possibilities.
On July 30 2013 15:39 bo1b wrote: Is there point decay in the wcs? I'd assume there is but it is blizzard...
I don't think there should be point decay within one year of WCS, since the purpose is to have the most consistent players as well as the champions of each season ideally at Blizzcon. They will probably apply decay for previous years once we get to WCS Year 2
yupp like a 100% decay after the global finals that don't give you any points.
On July 30 2013 15:24 liberate71 wrote: So if Flash wins the next GSL, he can likely qualify for the World Finals yeh? or he'd have to do decent in the Season finals too?
The points system seems to favour 1st/2nd mostly.
Clearly Soulkey, HerO and Innovation are in
Is HerO in? He fell out in the first round of WCS America T_T Soulkey and Innovation I guess are pretty safe bets.
HerO is probably in he has a lot of points.
Someone should write a script that can somehow 'lock' people into the qualify based on the rest of the years point distribution.
I think Innovation and Soulkey are the only two, definitely Innovation.
I think due to the number of players and tournaments, that type of script would be very complex. Although almost every player is still mathematically a possibility at this point, we have to remember that if one of the top players Innovation/Soulkey/Mvp etc wins KR/EU and also does well in Global S2, they take a lot of points off the table.
Unless I'm missing something, in order to determine if its mathematically possible for innovation to be knocked out, all you'd have to do is total the total number of available points for the rest of the year and divide by 16? If that number isn't greater then innovations current amount of points then it simply isn't possible for him to be knocked out.
edit: that assumes point distribution is equal :\ silly me :p
Not only that, you have to subtract the currently top 2-17 player points. The easiest way to see this is to set innovation as 0 and everyone else at -XXX
So the 17th player is Polt with 1575. He would be -3775 so he could over take Innovation (assuming Inno lose Ro4 and first round of Worlds lol) with WCS NA and Global wins (4,500 pts). But if we assume Polt does this to get ahead of Inno. The next person in NA could only get 3,000 (2nd NA, 2nd Global).
And this is not even counting season 3 and Tiered events. So yeah, it is still way too fair off to even try to calculate all the mathematically possibilities. Because if we assume different players will do well in regionals and worlds each season, the cut-off will become quite high, likely in the 5000s. But if a few of the same players do well in regionals and worlds, the cut-off becomes lower and lower.
On July 30 2013 16:02 lichter wrote: By Ro8 next season it should be possible to do.
Yes, and from experiences with the Blizzard cup, a lot of it will come down to a player ranked in the 20s vs someone who is already Top 5 and already in. And the player 15th ,16th in the rankings is already out and just praying for the Top 5 player to win.
On July 30 2013 19:42 Zealously wrote: Well, fuck you hyvaa
Well, fuck u Zealously!
On July 24 2013 11:55 edgeOut wrote: Maru is fast, aggressive, his style is similar to Innovation, basically a younger version of Bogus. Innovation's TvT, meh, Maru should be topdog in the semis.
On July 24 2013 11:55 edgeOut wrote: Maru is fast, aggressive, his style is similar to Innovation, basically a younger version of Bogus. Innovation's TvT, meh, Maru should be topdog in the semis.
On July 30 2013 19:42 Zealously wrote: Well, fuck you hyvaa
Well, fuck u Zealously!
On July 24 2013 11:55 edgeOut wrote: Maru is fast, aggressive, his style is similar to Innovation, basically a younger version of Bogus. Innovation's TvT, meh, Maru should be topdog in the semis.
Good call!
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On July 30 2013 19:42 Zealously wrote: Well, fuck you hyvaa
Well, fuck u Zealously!
On July 24 2013 11:55 edgeOut wrote: Maru is fast, aggressive, his style is similar to Innovation, basically a younger version of Bogus. Innovation's TvT, meh, Maru should be topdog in the semis.
Good call!
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