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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 20 2013 18:51 GMT
#2221
On July 21 2013 03:49 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 03:45 krutopatkin wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:45 Schelim wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:40 Sated wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:37 Hryul wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:36 Sated wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:35 Hryul wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:31 Azurues wrote:
quite a low viewer count considering it's already semi

3Z 1P. any further questions?

Why would anyone want to watch the awful games that the presence of Terrans leads to..?



E: don't make inappropriate jokes!

It's not a joke. I don't like watching Terrans play, and I especially don't like watching them win.

On July 21 2013 03:38 Schelim wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:36 Sated wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:35 Hryul wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:31 Azurues wrote:
quite a low viewer count considering it's already semi

3Z 1P. any further questions?

Why would anyone want to watch the awful games that the presence of Terrans leads to..?


how do you have almost 4k posts with one of the few opinions that are actually factually wrong? or is that smilie supposed to indicate sarcasm and i'm being Romanian?

Opinions, by their very nature, cannot be factually wrong. I would go into why I feel this way, but it would constitute balance/design/game bashing and this isn't really the place for that.

that's why i said "one of the few opinions that are factually wrong". Terran is by far the best-designed race in sc2. the race that suffers from heavy design issues is clearly Protoss.

that's like, your opinion, man

sure. i'm exaggarating when i say it's fact, of course, but i've very rarely experienced disagreement from people that are knowledgable in sc2. HotS has improved Zerg design enough as to where i don't have a huge problem with it anymore (except for free units galore) and has helped Protoss as well, but the overall situation is still pretty much the same imo. even the fact that Zerg and especially Terran have repeatedly proven the ability of producing players that are solid and can win tournaments consistently for a longer period of time while Protoss has not (except for MC and kinda Parting) supports the argument.


Anything v T is more likely to be enjoyable games, I agree with this opinion.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
July 20 2013 18:51 GMT
#2222
bo3 in the semi finals :/
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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
July 20 2013 18:51 GMT
#2223
On July 21 2013 03:47 Myles wrote:
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On July 21 2013 03:47 Cokefreak wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:47 Aeromi wrote:
If Gowser wins, please ban me.

Quoting this before you edit.

I bookmarked it ;P

I always thought banlings are like the paladins of TL: keeping the order with their bright shiny hammer. But this reveals everything: You are only disguised vampires who hunger for blood and slaughter!
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
July 20 2013 18:51 GMT
#2224
involution of zvz, hots is dissapointing in mirrors
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 20 2013 18:51 GMT
#2225
On July 21 2013 03:51 DOUDOU wrote:
bo3 in the semi finals :/

Yeah I'm really curious about that too.
kiss kiss fall in love
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
July 20 2013 18:52 GMT
#2226
the amount of people throwing around the term "throwing the game" in this thread gives me a small headache
n.Die_Jaedong
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 20 2013 18:52 GMT
#2227
On July 21 2013 03:50 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 03:48 blade55555 wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:47 udgnim wrote:
Gowser wasn't really ever clear cut in the lead so I'm going to say Hyun went Full Korean instead of Gowser going Full Foreigner


There were 2 times in that game where gosu should have won. When he sniped the third with the first attack, had he kept attacking he'd have won.

He threw the game there he had it TT

The Roach numbers for Hyun started to edge in his favor. It was smart thing to back off. Attacking into a choke like natural shouldn't work against good Zerg players.


blade knows what he's talking about, just listen and learn D;
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ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
July 20 2013 18:52 GMT
#2228
Artosis this close to saying "it takes a lot of balls to pull off a 10pool"
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 18:54:08
July 20 2013 18:53 GMT
#2229
woops double post
When I think of something else, something will go here
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 18:54:14
July 20 2013 18:53 GMT
#2230
On July 21 2013 03:52 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 03:50 DidYuhim wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:48 blade55555 wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:47 udgnim wrote:
Gowser wasn't really ever clear cut in the lead so I'm going to say Hyun went Full Korean instead of Gowser going Full Foreigner


There were 2 times in that game where gosu should have won. When he sniped the third with the first attack, had he kept attacking he'd have won.

He threw the game there he had it TT

The Roach numbers for Hyun started to edge in his favor. It was smart thing to back off. Attacking into a choke like natural shouldn't work against good Zerg players.


blade knows what he's talking about, just listen and learn D;


I was also talking about the very first attack. He had a 20 roach lead, took the third, took out a ton of hyuns units. He had it won with that attack I am 99% positive.

On July 21 2013 03:51 Heinsenzerg wrote:
involution of zvz, hots is dissapointing in mirrors


Blame blizzard for buffing spore crawlers hardcore and the community for complaining about muta wars which were imo way more entertaining then roach vs roach
When I think of something else, something will go here
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 20 2013 18:54 GMT
#2231
Consolation match for DreamHack Winter spot:

JYP <Whirlwind> Elfi
JYP <Neo Planet S> Elfi
JYP <Akilon Wastes> Elfi

(P)JYP going to DreamHack Winter.
viermalvier
Profile Joined December 2009
Austria115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 18:54:53
July 20 2013 18:54 GMT
#2232
are the seeding matches streamed? (luci beats yugioh btw)

/e hahaha, thx to above me :-)
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
July 20 2013 18:54 GMT
#2233
Only 52k people watching Dreamhack? Usually there's like 80k people. What gives?
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
July 20 2013 18:54 GMT
#2234
On July 21 2013 03:54 StarVe wrote:
Consolation match for DreamHack Winter spot:

JYP <Whirlwind> Elfi
JYP <Neo Planet S> Elfi
JYP <Akilon Wastes> Elfi

(P)JYP going to DreamHack Winter.

Fuck
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
July 20 2013 18:54 GMT
#2235
On July 21 2013 03:52 Dundron2000 wrote:
the amount of people throwing around the term "throwing the game" in this thread gives me a small headache

He got a good lead but then he got his upgrades really slowly. Then he attacked right before his +2 finished and it was done right when the battle ended. Maybe not a throw, but pretty bad strategic choices.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46473 Posts
July 20 2013 18:54 GMT
#2236
On July 21 2013 03:51 DOUDOU wrote:
bo3 in the semi finals :/


Yup, all Bo3 except finals, which is Bo5.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
July 20 2013 18:55 GMT
#2237
On July 21 2013 03:54 geokilla wrote:
Only 52k people watching Dreamhack? Usually there's like 80k people. What gives?

Many people watching in on Swedish national TV.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
July 20 2013 18:55 GMT
#2238
What I would give to see a good old fashioned ling-bling war
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
July 20 2013 18:55 GMT
#2239
On July 21 2013 03:54 StarVe wrote:
Consolation match for DreamHack Winter spot:

JYP <Whirlwind> Elfi
JYP <Neo Planet S> Elfi
JYP <Akilon Wastes> Elfi

(P)JYP going to DreamHack Winter.

Fuck yes!
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 20 2013 18:56 GMT
#2240
On July 21 2013 03:55 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 03:54 geokilla wrote:
Only 52k people watching Dreamhack? Usually there's like 80k people. What gives?

Many people watching in on Swedish national TV.


it's not on TV when it's valencia
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