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Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
July 06 2013 18:32 GMT
#221
So that guy casting was in the same house as Stardust? Sounds fishy if you ask me.
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
July 06 2013 18:32 GMT
#222
On July 07 2013 03:29 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 03:25 TumNarDok wrote:
On July 07 2013 03:21 pmp10 wrote:
Are the replays free to download from ESL?
I'm tempted to see what Morrow has been playing.


You can click on the vs in the brackets and therre may be some to download in the "Media" section.
But it depends if the players actually uploaded them.
ESL does not anymore enforce uploading them, only to clear up disputes.

That's too bad.
I can't see any pro-player releasing replays without being forced to.


Well for example TrOn vs hoejja would be there from today.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/wcs/2013season2_challenger_qualifier1/match/28644770/

gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
July 06 2013 18:33 GMT
#223
On July 07 2013 03:32 Champloo wrote:
So that guy casting was in the same house as Stardust? Sounds fishy if you ask me.

Yeah, you could clearly see Stardust cheating on his stream. He even used aimbot.
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 06 2013 18:33 GMT
#224
On July 07 2013 03:32 Champloo wrote:
So that guy casting was in the same house as Stardust? Sounds fishy if you ask me.


They were in seperate parts of the house. StarDust streamed the qualifier himself, so you can go check the vods to see that there's nothing fishy going on during matches.
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-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
July 06 2013 18:33 GMT
#225
On July 07 2013 03:32 Champloo wrote:
So that guy casting was in the same house as Stardust? Sounds fishy if you ask me.


Yeah he was clearly relying on that to win those games!
~~(,,ºº>
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
July 06 2013 18:33 GMT
#226
i dont see why everyone talks about heromarine as if he was soooo good.

all i saw is good timing pushes that will work vs most players of lower caliber, but got crused by stardust everytime.
in 2 games not a single drop that counts (except the pure excuse of a hellion drop in the beginning)
i didnt see any multitasking at all, just macroing and pushing with his whole army. guess this brings you really far.

and stardust played two games with zealot archon temp vs mmm + hellbats, thats like playing with a handicap



-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1215 Posts
July 06 2013 18:34 GMT
#227
Show nested quote +

So that guy casting was in the same house as Stardust? Sounds fishy if you ask me.

Yeah, you could clearly see Stardust cheating on his stream. He even used aimbot.


So THATS why those storms were so accurate :x
~~(,,ºº>
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
July 06 2013 18:35 GMT
#228
On July 07 2013 03:33 phil.ipp wrote:
i dont see why everyone talks about heromarine as if he was soooo good.

all i saw is good timing pushes that will work vs most players of lower caliber, but got crused by stardust everytime.
in 2 games not a single drop that counts (except the pure excuse of a hellion drop in the beginning)
i didnt see any multitasking at all, just macroing and pushing with his whole army. guess this brings you really far.

and stardust played two games with zealot archon temp vs mmm + hellbats, thats like playing with a handicap




people like you make it even more awesome to cheer for heromarine <3
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 18:38:29
July 06 2013 18:36 GMT
#229
On July 07 2013 03:32 Champloo wrote:
So that guy casting was in the same house as Stardust? Sounds fishy if you ask me.


Perfect example for a bullshit post. Stardust streamed the whole tournament and nobody saw anything strange yet someone tries to get attention by introducing the idea of something fishy going on because a streamer and a player were physically remotly close to each other. Nice.
mind mind mind mind mind mind
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
July 06 2013 18:37 GMT
#230
On July 07 2013 03:33 phil.ipp wrote:
i dont see why everyone talks about heromarine as if he was soooo good.

all i saw is good timing pushes that will work vs most players of lower caliber, but got crused by stardust everytime.
in 2 games not a single drop that counts (except the pure excuse of a hellion drop in the beginning)
i didnt see any multitasking at all, just macroing and pushing with his whole army. guess this brings you really far.

and stardust played two games with zealot archon temp vs mmm + hellbats, thats like playing with a handicap

Thats non-korean terran play in a nutshell. Without korean multitasking, T is not the same race.
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
July 06 2013 18:37 GMT
#231
On July 07 2013 03:33 phil.ipp wrote:
i dont see why everyone talks about heromarine as if he was soooo good.

all i saw is good timing pushes that will work vs most players of lower caliber, but got crused by stardust everytime.
in 2 games not a single drop that counts (except the pure excuse of a hellion drop in the beginning)
i didnt see any multitasking at all, just macroing and pushing with his whole army. guess this brings you really far.

and stardust played two games with zealot archon temp vs mmm + hellbats, thats like playing with a handicap




Keep on hatin'
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12172 Posts
July 06 2013 18:37 GMT
#232
On July 07 2013 03:33 phil.ipp wrote:
i dont see why everyone talks about heromarine as if he was soooo good.


You don't have to be "soooo good" to get through this qualifiers. You just have to be very good. Which Heromarine is.

Yeah, he won't win next wcs, but it's very likely that he'll participate in it. If you don't think that's the case, point at the 6 players from this qualifier (I'm assuming San gets through) that you think are more likely to get through than he is.
No will to live, no wish to die
Kyaaaaa
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada46 Posts
July 06 2013 18:37 GMT
#233
On July 07 2013 03:33 phil.ipp wrote:
i dont see why everyone talks about heromarine as if he was soooo good.

all i saw is good timing pushes that will work vs most players of lower caliber, but got crused by stardust everytime.
in 2 games not a single drop that counts (except the pure excuse of a hellion drop in the beginning)
i didnt see any multitasking at all, just macroing and pushing with his whole army. guess this brings you really far.

and stardust played two games with zealot archon temp vs mmm + hellbats, thats like playing with a handicap




German bias.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
July 06 2013 18:39 GMT
#234
On July 07 2013 03:37 Kyaaaaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 03:33 phil.ipp wrote:
i dont see why everyone talks about heromarine as if he was soooo good.

all i saw is good timing pushes that will work vs most players of lower caliber, but got crused by stardust everytime.
in 2 games not a single drop that counts (except the pure excuse of a hellion drop in the beginning)
i didnt see any multitasking at all, just macroing and pushing with his whole army. guess this brings you really far.

and stardust played two games with zealot archon temp vs mmm + hellbats, thats like playing with a handicap

German bias.

Our only decent player is not able to play, so we bash our neighbor ones.
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Devlin
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden91 Posts
July 06 2013 18:39 GMT
#235
Can't believe there not more investigation/emphasis on Stardust advancing through a custom map?
"if someone puts a ling under a lifted cc the terran can no longer land and loses"
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 18:45:09
July 06 2013 18:40 GMT
#236
On July 07 2013 03:39 Devlin wrote:
Can't believe there not more investigation/emphasis on Stardust advancing through a custom map?

Zealots having a mere 50 hp more doesnt make a difference. Edit: hm, guess i got it wrong. at
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 18:41:30
July 06 2013 18:41 GMT
#237
On July 07 2013 03:39 Devlin wrote:
Can't believe there not more investigation/emphasis on Stardust advancing through a custom map?


He didn't. Stardust pointed out that the map was wrong, then after the game Lowely just said it's ok I lost and didn't want to regame (which Stardust thought they would do). That's what made SD advance, not the game in itself.
No will to live, no wish to die
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 18:41:39
July 06 2013 18:41 GMT
#238
On July 07 2013 03:39 Devlin wrote:
Can't believe there not more investigation/emphasis on Stardust advancing through a custom map?

lowely didnt want a regame, i think
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 06 2013 18:41 GMT
#239
On July 07 2013 03:39 Devlin wrote:
Can't believe there not more investigation/emphasis on Stardust advancing through a custom map?


Lowely hosted the map, stardust offered a regame but lowely told stardust he won, you can see it on stardust stream vods
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
July 06 2013 18:43 GMT
#240
ch StarDust \o/
Terran & Potato Salad.
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