Dimaga and Dayshi will advance when they play like they did so far. I´m so hoping for Dayshi being solid in his performance so we have yet another great EU terran.
EDIT: I still check every time who duckdeok is. Finale kind of sticked better.
On July 03 2013 20:19 Daswollvieh wrote: Dimaga and Dayshi will advance when they play like they did so far. I´m so hoping for Dayshi being solid in his performance so we have yet another great EU terran.
EDIT: I still check every time who duckdeok is. Finale kind of sticked better.
On July 03 2013 20:19 Daswollvieh wrote: Dimaga and Dayshi will advance when they play like they did so far. I´m so hoping for Dayshi being solid in his performance so we have yet another great EU terran.
EDIT: I still check every time who duckdeok is. Finale kind of sticked better.
How is "Finale" more memorable than duckdeock lol
The same way Stardust is more memorable to me than M18M and Wookie more so than P7GAB.
On July 03 2013 20:19 Daswollvieh wrote: Dimaga and Dayshi will advance when they play like they did so far. I´m so hoping for Dayshi being solid in his performance so we have yet another great EU terran.
EDIT: I still check every time who duckdeok is. Finale kind of sticked better.
How is "Finale" more memorable than duckdeock lol
The same way Stardust is more memorable to me than M18M and Wookie more so than P7GAB.
I guess I´m weird that way.
I hate Wooki's name changes but I like calling him Zest because it's such a corny name. And Carno for Stats is even worse.
On July 03 2013 20:19 Daswollvieh wrote: Dimaga and Dayshi will advance when they play like they did so far. I´m so hoping for Dayshi being solid in his performance so we have yet another great EU terran.
EDIT: I still check every time who duckdeok is. Finale kind of sticked better.
How is "Finale" more memorable than duckdeock lol
Because it's easier to write. Your post is a good proof. :D
Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
On July 03 2013 20:19 Daswollvieh wrote: Dimaga and Dayshi will advance when they play like they did so far. I´m so hoping for Dayshi being solid in his performance so we have yet another great EU terran.
EDIT: I still check every time who duckdeok is. Finale kind of sticked better.
On July 03 2013 23:21 Daswollvieh wrote: When in doubt, hate. It seems to work for everybody else.
btw which team was Venus on? Also MVP?
You mean oGsVines ?
There is a Korean player named Venus. Not sure what his team is now but he used to be MVP as far as I can remember. He's playing in WCS NA Qualifiers though, not EU
As for AzubuVINES, I don't know where he's playing
Sucks forn dayshi tho,it seems that his weakest matchup is VP and hasu&duck aren't small chalenge :p Still i feel that both of them (D&D) would derserve the spot more gogogo !
On July 03 2013 23:21 Daswollvieh wrote: When in doubt, hate. It seems to work for everybody else.
btw which team was Venus on? Also MVP?
You mean oGsVines ?
There is a Korean player named Venus. Not sure what his team is now but he used to be MVP as far as I can remember. He's playing in WCS NA Qualifiers though, not EU
As for AzubuVINES, I don't know where he's playing
I had never heard of him, but nice to see he has a Liquipedia page. It says he used to be in TSL, but I definitely don't remember him
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
What? You don't consider me a progamer?
Thanks for the OP scarlett. Great having a player show their support for what the community does for them. LR makers don't get sponsors
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
What? You don't consider me a progamer?
Thanks for the OP scarlett. Great having a player show their support for what the community does for them. LR makers don't get sponsors
but girls totally swoon when I tell them about all the hours I've put into maintaining LR OPs for SC2 and BW.
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
What? You don't consider me a progamer?
Thanks for the OP scarlett. Great having a player show their support for what the community does for them. LR makers don't get sponsors
I consider you an insane Bisu fan
On July 04 2013 00:28 Daswollvieh wrote: Haha, too many pro gamers. So who was the penis-guy, Vines, right? They probably both are.
That was VINES. I don't think Venus ever made it on TV.
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
Maybe we can start a category on TLPD
I don't know, did Incontrol or any of the other guys do LR OPs for BW?
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
Maybe we can start a category on TLPD
I don't know, did Incontrol or any of the other guys do LR OPs for BW?
Pretty sure BR easily topped the ELO charts there.
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
Maybe we can start a category on TLPD
I don't know, did Incontrol or any of the other guys do LR OPs for BW?
Pretty sure BR easily topped the ELO charts there.
SC2 LR OP different from BW LR OP so we need a new ranking.
Easier mechanics with them automated buttons and all
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
Maybe we can start a category on TLPD
I don't know, did Incontrol or any of the other guys do LR OPs for BW?
Pretty sure BR easily topped the ELO charts there.
SC2 LR OP different from BW LR OP so we need a new ranking.
Easier mechanics with them automated buttons and all
There's a serious lack of MS Paint banners in SC2 LR OPs.
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
Maybe we can start a category on TLPD
I don't know, did Incontrol or any of the other guys do LR OPs for BW?
Pretty sure BR easily topped the ELO charts there.
SC2 LR OP different from BW LR OP so we need a new ranking.
Easier mechanics with them automated buttons and all
There's a serious lack of MS Paint banners in SC2 LR OPs.
On July 03 2013 23:43 shid0x wrote: Go dayshi and Dima !
Sucks forn dayshi tho,it seems that his weakest matchup is VP and hasu&duck aren't small chalenge :p Still i feel that both of them (D&D) would derserve the spot more gogogo !
I don't know if TvP is still his worst matchup. I think he has more troubles with TvT now. His TvP is fine.
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
Maybe we can start a category on TLPD
I don't know, did Incontrol or any of the other guys do LR OPs for BW?
Pretty sure BR easily topped the ELO charts there.
SC2 LR OP different from BW LR OP so we need a new ranking.
Easier mechanics with them automated buttons and all
There's a serious lack of MS Paint banners in SC2 LR OPs.
Hey I've made some MS Paint banners man, even a Paint gif
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
Maybe we can start a category on TLPD
I don't know, did Incontrol or any of the other guys do LR OPs for BW?
On July 04 2013 01:09 {ToT}ColmA wrote: really low viewer count on this one O.o hoping for dimaga, i just like him even thou he plays a shitty race lol
i dont feel sorry for anyone in the tournament ~~ i wanted tlo to gather more points and play more games, but i dont feel sorry for anyone choosing this tournament, though understandably losing sucks for everybody...
Wtf is it with Tails and Duckduck, both players just using terrible allins. They fought so hard and so long to get here, had time to prepare their matches and builds, and they just pull this tired crap?
I played on both KR and EU last year, the delay was brutal. Imo it makes playing T impossible, idk about P. Z was quite okay (least micro required). It sucks to be forced to allin i guess.
On July 04 2013 01:28 gingerfluffmuff wrote: I played on both KR and EU last year, the delay was brutal. Imo it makes playing T impossible, idk about P. Z was quite okay (least micro required). It sucks to be forced to allin i guess.
On July 04 2013 01:28 gingerfluffmuff wrote: I played on both KR and EU last year, the delay was brutal. Imo it makes playing T impossible, idk about P. Z was quite okay (least micro required). It sucks to be forced to allin i guess.
No sympathy for them whatsoever, they aren't European and they shouldn't have any right to compete in WCS EU.
On July 04 2013 01:37 kollin wrote: What builds did Dimaga and duckdeok do in game 2? I stepped away from the computer for a minute and missed the game >.>
Really tiny sentry immortal force with mamacore.
Dimaga mass lings and queens as usual. Late forcefields, queens snipe mamacore, gg.
On July 04 2013 01:37 kollin wrote: What builds did Dimaga and duckdeok do in game 2? I stepped away from the computer for a minute and missed the game >.>
Dimaga went mass ling with +1 armor and duckdeok did a really quick immortal sentry iwth only 2 immortal/6 sentry/no warp prism + with lag couldnt forcefield until too late
On July 04 2013 01:37 kollin wrote: What builds did Dimaga and duckdeok do in game 2? I stepped away from the computer for a minute and missed the game >.>
I wasn't paying that close attention, but DIMAGA went speedlings both games. Quick upgrades first game, not sure about second. First game duckdeok went 4 gate on two base. Second game he had a robo and all-in'd on two base.
On July 04 2013 01:28 gingerfluffmuff wrote: I played on both KR and EU last year, the delay was brutal. Imo it makes playing T impossible, idk about P. Z was quite okay (least micro required). It sucks to be forced to allin i guess.
No sympathy for them whatsoever, they aren't European and they shouldn't have any right to compete in WCS EU.
why?
with a cash prize similar for every region, it just seem natural to have the region balance themselves
On July 04 2013 01:28 gingerfluffmuff wrote: I played on both KR and EU last year, the delay was brutal. Imo it makes playing T impossible, idk about P. Z was quite okay (least micro required). It sucks to be forced to allin i guess.
No sympathy for them whatsoever, they aren't European and they shouldn't have any right to compete in WCS EU.
why?
with a cash prize similar for every region, it just seem natural to have the region balance themselves
Yeah, otherwise my guess is that the winners from the Korean (arguably the country with the best players) regionals would just storm the Grand Finals.
On July 04 2013 01:28 gingerfluffmuff wrote: I played on both KR and EU last year, the delay was brutal. Imo it makes playing T impossible, idk about P. Z was quite okay (least micro required). It sucks to be forced to allin i guess.
No sympathy for them whatsoever, they aren't European and they shouldn't have any right to compete in WCS EU.
why?
with a cash prize similar for every region, it just seem natural to have the region balance themselves
Yeah, otherwise my guess is that the winners from the Korean (arguably the country with the best players) regionals would just storm the Grand Finals.
This. It is like wcg bw all over again. No amount of crisp build talk from day9 could hide the worlds of difference in skill.
On July 04 2013 01:28 gingerfluffmuff wrote: I played on both KR and EU last year, the delay was brutal. Imo it makes playing T impossible, idk about P. Z was quite okay (least micro required). It sucks to be forced to allin i guess.
No sympathy for them whatsoever, they aren't European and they shouldn't have any right to compete in WCS EU.
On July 04 2013 01:28 gingerfluffmuff wrote: I played on both KR and EU last year, the delay was brutal. Imo it makes playing T impossible, idk about P. Z was quite okay (least micro required). It sucks to be forced to allin i guess.
No sympathy for them whatsoever, they aren't European and they shouldn't have any right to compete in WCS EU.
why?
with a cash prize similar for every region, it just seem natural to have the region balance themselves
Yeah, otherwise my guess is that the winners from the Korean (arguably the country with the best players) regionals would just storm the Grand Finals.
This. It is like wcg bw all over again. No amount of crisp build talk from day9 could hide the worlds of difference in skill.
In 2012 didn't FlaSh just screw with his opponent by doing some TvZ mech drop build against a German P?
Interesting that Kaelaris brings up WC3 players since I remember ToD stating that SC2 was much much harder in terms of sticking to strategies since opponents will study and hard counter you while in WC3 you could do the same style of play for years
On July 04 2013 01:48 lichter wrote: Sometimes I wonder why reapers and marauders can't point their guns to the sky to shoot down floaty things
I like to think their mechanical arms doing move that far vertically, like that guy from the campaign with the fumanchu is really bad at his job.
This is the most sensible explanation, probably
I would think that their weapon isn't powerful enough to get the range when shooting upwards.
But marauders have longer range than marines and reapers have as much range. At least horizontally.
Reapers use pistols so I don't think it has enough power to take down anything. Marauders have a grenade thing that might not be able to make it that high up.
On July 03 2013 21:54 ThomasjServo wrote: Was wondering why everyone was mentioning Scarlett, then I looked at the OP. XD Glad you're going to be hanging with us today Scarlett. Dima gets out I think, but I am not looking forward to a hasu game on Whirlwind.
This is her second LR OP so she is #1 on the Progamer LR OP rankings
Maybe we can start a category on TLPD
I don't know, did Incontrol or any of the other guys do LR OPs for BW?
Pretty sure BR easily topped the ELO charts there.
SC2 LR OP different from BW LR OP so we need a new ranking.
Easier mechanics with them automated buttons and all
There's a serious lack of MS Paint banners in SC2 LR OPs.
Hey I've made some MS Paint banners man, even a Paint gif
I have made huge contributions to the painters of LR in PL
On July 04 2013 01:48 lichter wrote: Sometimes I wonder why reapers and marauders can't point their guns to the sky to shoot down floaty things
I like to think their mechanical arms doing move that far vertically, like that guy from the campaign with the fumanchu is really bad at his job.
This is the most sensible explanation, probably
I would think that their weapon isn't powerful enough to get the range when shooting upwards.
But marauders have longer range than marines and reapers have as much range. At least horizontally.
Reapers use pistols so I don't think it has enough power to take down anything. Marauders have a grenade thing that might not be able to make it that high up.
I don't know.
Gravity has the same effect regardless of size and weight. The biggest factor will probably be air resistance. It's too late in the evening for me to do the math, but I think the marauder and reaper projectiles should probably reach as far as marine fire if you take their horizontal range as they maximum distance
On July 04 2013 01:48 lichter wrote: Sometimes I wonder why reapers and marauders can't point their guns to the sky to shoot down floaty things
I like to think their mechanical arms doing move that far vertically, like that guy from the campaign with the fumanchu is really bad at his job.
This is the most sensible explanation, probably
I would think that their weapon isn't powerful enough to get the range when shooting upwards.
But marauders have longer range than marines and reapers have as much range. At least horizontally.
Reapers use pistols so I don't think it has enough power to take down anything. Marauders have a grenade thing that might not be able to make it that high up.
I don't know.
Gravity has the same effect regardless of size and weight. The biggest factor will probably be air resistance. It's too late in the evening for me to do the math, but I think the marauder and reaper projectiles should probably reach as far as marine fire if you take their horizontal range as they maximum distance
Yeah, too lazy to do the physics right now, but I think that result is correct.
This is quite funny to me actually. According to this, you can actually make it out that duckdeok has a higher chance of getting into Top 2. This is because he has a higher chance of getting into Top 3 (51.84% vs 48.75%), and since ending Top 3 requires him to defeat Dayshi he can therefore be seen as having a higher chance than Dayshi to finish Top 2.
On July 04 2013 01:48 lichter wrote: Sometimes I wonder why reapers and marauders can't point their guns to the sky to shoot down floaty things
I like to think their mechanical arms doing move that far vertically, like that guy from the campaign with the fumanchu is really bad at his job.
This is the most sensible explanation, probably
I would think that their weapon isn't powerful enough to get the range when shooting upwards.
But marauders have longer range than marines and reapers have as much range. At least horizontally.
Reapers use pistols so I don't think it has enough power to take down anything. Marauders have a grenade thing that might not be able to make it that high up.
I don't know.
Gravity has the same effect regardless of size and weight. The biggest factor will probably be air resistance. It's too late in the evening for me to do the math, but I think the marauder and reaper projectiles should probably reach as far as marine fire if you take their horizontal range as they maximum distance
Definitely not- Marines are using an 8mm rifle, which is going to have a MUCH higher muzzle velocity than either a pistol or a grenade. Of course, this assumes that Marauder ammunition is NOT self-propelled. Since both pistols and grenade launchers are ineffective against aircraft because of velocity drop-off and range, it actually makes sense that only the rifle would be able to shoot up. We can use some simple sci-fi tech to explain the Marauder's shells having longer lateral range than the Marine rifle bullet- the larger shell of the Marauder grenade allows it to house a repulsor, preventing horizontal dropoff and countering gravity. The 8mm spike is a simple slug and does not house fancy tech, and is thus affected by dropoff.
This is quite funny to me actually. According to this, you can actually make it out that duckdeok has a higher chance of getting into Top 2. This is because he has a higher chance of getting into Top 3 (51.84% vs 48.75%), and since ending Top 3 requires him to defeat Dayshi he can therefore be seen as having a higher chance than Dayshi to finish Top 2.
Statistics are funny.
I don't think that's what it's saying. I agree with your point about 4th, it's more so saying that if Dayshi beats duckdeok (which he's the underdog), he has a better chance of winning the second set.
On July 04 2013 01:48 lichter wrote: Sometimes I wonder why reapers and marauders can't point their guns to the sky to shoot down floaty things
I like to think their mechanical arms doing move that far vertically, like that guy from the campaign with the fumanchu is really bad at his job.
This is the most sensible explanation, probably
I would think that their weapon isn't powerful enough to get the range when shooting upwards.
But marauders have longer range than marines and reapers have as much range. At least horizontally.
Reapers use pistols so I don't think it has enough power to take down anything. Marauders have a grenade thing that might not be able to make it that high up.
I don't know.
Gravity has the same effect regardless of size and weight. The biggest factor will probably be air resistance. It's too late in the evening for me to do the math, but I think the marauder and reaper projectiles should probably reach as far as marine fire if you take their horizontal range as they maximum distance
Yeah, too lazy to do the physics right now, but I think that result is correct.
Marines don't have to watch friendly fire or aim well when fighting giant battle ships or fast flyers so they can turn their guns to stim mode for the anti air fight. That the attack speed isn't increased is due to the Marines being unable to handle their weapon and missing half of their shots.
Marauder shells are optimized for Ground combat no reason to waste money trying to hit air units, those things are expensive and the targeting comp just works for ground. And Reapers are maniacs what can you do they decided to not shoot air units.
Vs Hasuobs I think you need to mass up all static defence that is available. Turrets everywhere, Ridiculous amounts of PFs and disgustingly many sensor towers. You will also need a massive orbital farm (25-20) and max 20 scvs, then go into 60 Ghost - 35 Vikings with marauder-hellbat support. Then start taking fights, work on the cannon farms with nukes and slowly leapfrog forward with Pfs, Turrets and Sensor Towers. And no I am not trolling.
On July 04 2013 02:18 ImperialFist wrote: Vs Hasuobs I think you need to mass up all static defence that is available. Turrets everywhere, Ridiculous amounts of PFs and disgustingly many sensor towers. You will also need a massive orbital farm (25-20) and max 20 scvs, then go into 60 Ghost - 35 Vikings with marauder-hellbat support. Then start taking fights, work on the cannon farms with nukes and slowly leapfrog forward with Pfs, Turrets and Sensor Towers. And no I am not trolling.
On July 04 2013 02:18 ImperialFist wrote: Vs Hasuobs I think you need to mass up all static defence that is available. Turrets everywhere, Ridiculous amounts of PFs and disgustingly many sensor towers. You will also need a massive orbital farm (25-20) and max 20 scvs, then go into 60 Ghost - 35 Vikings with marauder-hellbat support. Then start taking fights, work on the cannon farms with nukes and slowly leapfrog forward with Pfs, Turrets and Sensor Towers. And no I am not trolling.
On July 04 2013 02:18 ImperialFist wrote: Vs Hasuobs I think you need to mass up all static defence that is available. Turrets everywhere, Ridiculous amounts of PFs and disgustingly many sensor towers. You will also need a massive orbital farm (25-20) and max 20 scvs, then go into 60 Ghost - 35 Vikings with marauder-hellbat support. Then start taking fights, work on the cannon farms with nukes and slowly leapfrog forward with Pfs, Turrets and Sensor Towers. And no I am not trolling.
On July 04 2013 02:28 Ysellian wrote: ugh I hate Voidray colossus so much
Why ? It's really fucking easy to beat. DIMAGA just showed you how.
By having your opponent float 1500 minerals?
I think the people he's playing aren't as good as HasuObs. Call me crazy.
Nor am I as good as Dimaga. :/ I don't find it fucking easy to beat and I've used the combination with zero practice successfully against other zergs, beating players two levels above me.
I don't want to jinx it, but I didn't have twitch lag for a long time, I think since DH. HSC, MLG and WCS are all perfect for me, multiple streams and 720p+ is no problem.
On July 04 2013 02:35 Musicus wrote: I don't want to jinx it, but I didn't have twitch lag for a long time, I think since DH. HSC, MLG and WCS are all perfect for me, multiple streams and 720p+ is no problem.
I'm playing Mabinogi in the background right now and I haven't had a problem with Twitch... ever.
On July 04 2013 02:35 Musicus wrote: I don't want to jinx it, but I didn't have twitch lag for a long time, I think since DH. HSC, MLG and WCS are all perfect for me, multiple streams and 720p+ is no problem.
You're actually from Germany? If so, I'm surprised. Usually all of the people in LR threads complaining about lag are Europeans, probably because of Twitch's service in Europe.
On July 04 2013 02:28 Ysellian wrote: ugh I hate Voidray colossus so much
Why ? It's really fucking easy to beat. DIMAGA just showed you how.
By having your opponent float 1500 minerals?
Yeah because 10 more stalkers would have won him that game.......
Few more sentrys would have actually. o_o
Having a few more forcefields wont matter when toss is on 120 supply vs 200/200 viper hydra roach
He lost all his expensive units because he lacked forcefields/they weren't good enough. Keep in mind that DIMAGA was only producing lings and roaches at the end, which is really bad against colossi/voydrai.
On July 04 2013 02:35 Musicus wrote: I don't want to jinx it, but I didn't have twitch lag for a long time, I think since DH. HSC, MLG and WCS are all perfect for me, multiple streams and 720p+ is no problem.
You're actually from Germany? If so, I'm surprised. Usually all of the people in LR threads complaining about lag are Europeans, probably because of Twitch's service in Europe.
I am indeed from Germany, right now living in Berlin, and my internet isn't all that great.
On July 04 2013 02:35 Musicus wrote: I don't want to jinx it, but I didn't have twitch lag for a long time, I think since DH. HSC, MLG and WCS are all perfect for me, multiple streams and 720p+ is no problem.
I'm playing Mabinogi in the background right now and I haven't had a problem with Twitch... ever.
On July 04 2013 02:35 Musicus wrote: I don't want to jinx it, but I didn't have twitch lag for a long time, I think since DH. HSC, MLG and WCS are all perfect for me, multiple streams and 720p+ is no problem.
I'm playing Mabinogi in the background right now and I haven't had a problem with Twitch... ever.
And also KENNIGIT WHY DID YOU LEAVE US?!
Dude, Germany is actually way better than Canada.
Especially the water right? Gotta love them bubbles.
On July 04 2013 02:35 Musicus wrote: I don't want to jinx it, but I didn't have twitch lag for a long time, I think since DH. HSC, MLG and WCS are all perfect for me, multiple streams and 720p+ is no problem.
I'm playing Mabinogi in the background right now and I haven't had a problem with Twitch... ever.
And also KENNIGIT WHY DID YOU LEAVE US?!
Dude, Germany is actually way better than Canada.
Especially the water right? Gotta love them bubbles.
Wait. They don't have sparkling water in Canada?!?!
On July 04 2013 02:35 Musicus wrote: I don't want to jinx it, but I didn't have twitch lag for a long time, I think since DH. HSC, MLG and WCS are all perfect for me, multiple streams and 720p+ is no problem.
I'm playing Mabinogi in the background right now and I haven't had a problem with Twitch... ever.
And also KENNIGIT WHY DID YOU LEAVE US?!
Dude, Germany is actually way better than Canada.
Especially the water right? Gotta love them bubbles.
Wait. They don't have sparkling water in Canada?!?!
On July 04 2013 02:35 Musicus wrote: I don't want to jinx it, but I didn't have twitch lag for a long time, I think since DH. HSC, MLG and WCS are all perfect for me, multiple streams and 720p+ is no problem.
I'm playing Mabinogi in the background right now and I haven't had a problem with Twitch... ever.
And also KENNIGIT WHY DID YOU LEAVE US?!
Dude, Germany is actually way better than Canada.
Especially the water right? Gotta love them bubbles.
Wait. They don't have sparkling water in Canada?!?!
They do but 99% of all bottled water is still. You can buy bubbly water in grocery stores, but its usually on some very top or bottom shelf and not in immediate eye line.
On July 04 2013 02:35 Musicus wrote: I don't want to jinx it, but I didn't have twitch lag for a long time, I think since DH. HSC, MLG and WCS are all perfect for me, multiple streams and 720p+ is no problem.
I'm playing Mabinogi in the background right now and I haven't had a problem with Twitch... ever.
And also KENNIGIT WHY DID YOU LEAVE US?!
Dude, Germany is actually way better than Canada.
Especially the water right? Gotta love them bubbles.
Wait. They don't have sparkling water in Canada?!?!
That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
The 2 letters is standard in Europe. It's just for safety. Same system is used in the Netherlands and Belgium.
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
The only think not affected by our Efficiency is our Bureaucracy
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
The 2 letters is standard in Europe. It's just for safety. Same system is used in the Netherlands and Belgium.
yeah, but its not extremely efficient. We had to deal with the same kind of stuff in France
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
Haha I know what you mean by this. I work for an engineering corporation that has a German division, and you should hear them make fun of "German engineering." They say it's high quality work, but German engineers are very stubborn and refuse to admit errors on their end.
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
The 2 letters is standard in Europe. It's just for safety. Same system is used in the Netherlands and Belgium.
yeah, but its not extremely efficient. We had to deal with the same kind of stuff in France
I actually like the system. Sending a card with a PIN attached isn't safe.
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
Haha I know what you mean by this. I work for an engineering corporation that has a German division, and you should hear them make fun of "German engineering."
Yeah. Most national stereotypes are just things people say because they think it's funny to talk about.
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
Haha I know what you mean by this. I work for an engineering corporation that has a German division, and you should hear them make fun of "German engineering."
Yeah. Most national stereotypes are just things people say because they think it's funny to talk about.
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
Haha I know what you mean by this. I work for an engineering corporation that has a German division, and you should hear them make fun of "German engineering."
Yeah. Most national stereotypes are just things people say because they think it's funny to talk about.
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
Haha I know what you mean by this. I work for an engineering corporation that has a German division, and you should hear them make fun of "German engineering."
Yeah. Most national stereotypes are just things people say because they think it's funny to talk about.
I edited my post to clarify. The stereotype is based in truth, but it's not a perfect description.
This is a very HasuObs'y game.
EDIT: Does Protoss get to pick which nexus they recall to?
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
Haha I know what you mean by this. I work for an engineering corporation that has a German division, and you should hear them make fun of "German engineering."
Yeah. Most national stereotypes are just things people say because they think it's funny to talk about.
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
Haha I know what you mean by this. I work for an engineering corporation that has a German division, and you should hear them make fun of "German engineering."
Yeah. Most national stereotypes are just things people say because they think it's funny to talk about.
I edited my post to clarify. The stereotype is based in truth, but it's not a perfect description.
This is a very HasuObs'y game.
EDIT: Does Protoss get to pick which nexus they recall to?
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
Haha I know what you mean by this. I work for an engineering corporation that has a German division, and you should hear them make fun of "German engineering."
Yeah. Most national stereotypes are just things people say because they think it's funny to talk about.
I edited my post to clarify. The stereotype is based in truth, but it's not a perfect description.
This is a very HasuObs'y game.
EDIT: Does Protoss get to pick which nexus they recall to?
yes
Uh, how does one go about doing this? Do you click to the nexus you want to warp to? I don't play Protoss at all T_T
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
Haha I know what you mean by this. I work for an engineering corporation that has a German division, and you should hear them make fun of "German engineering."
Yeah. Most national stereotypes are just things people say because they think it's funny to talk about.
Swedish girls are pretty
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. "pretty"
If by pretty you mean drop dead gorgeous, dear Sir, then we are in agreement !
On July 04 2013 03:00 packrat386 wrote: Seems like not a lot of people are watching.
"Just," 23k.
Note that it's 2:00 PM right now in EST, and even earlier than that in other parts of NA. Don't know if a lot of people will be able to watch. That is, of course assuming that a lot of people in NA watch this.
On July 04 2013 03:00 packrat386 wrote: Seems like not a lot of people are watching.
"Just," 23k.
Note that it's 2:00 PM right now in EST, and even earlier than that in other parts of NA. Don't know if a lot of people will be able to watch. That is, of course assuming that a lot of people in NA watch this.
Shows 28k on the main stream for me. + 3k Russian stream, 2k German, 2k French
35k is pretty decent for groupplay and better than WCS Korea usually.
On July 04 2013 03:00 packrat386 wrote: Seems like not a lot of people are watching.
"Just," 23k.
Note that it's 2:00 PM right now in EST, and even earlier than that in other parts of NA. Don't know if a lot of people will be able to watch. That is, of course assuming that a lot of people in NA watch this.
36k or so on all streams combined For one of the weaker groups that's plenty oO
On July 04 2013 03:00 packrat386 wrote: Seems like not a lot of people are watching.
"Just," 23k.
Note that it's 2:00 PM right now in EST, and even earlier than that in other parts of NA. Don't know if a lot of people will be able to watch. That is, of course assuming that a lot of people in NA watch this.
36k or so on all streams combined For one of the weaker groups that's plenty oO
My bad. I was just watching the English commentary because I don't speak any of the other languages. And the accents are just magical. :D
On July 04 2013 03:00 packrat386 wrote: Seems like not a lot of people are watching.
"Just," 23k.
Note that it's 2:00 PM right now in EST, and even earlier than that in other parts of NA. Don't know if a lot of people will be able to watch. That is, of course assuming that a lot of people in NA watch this.
Sorry I just meant that the LR thread isn't the most active. I suppose I'm more used to larger events like the glabl finals and DH and such.
On July 04 2013 03:00 packrat386 wrote: Seems like not a lot of people are watching.
"Just," 23k.
Note that it's 2:00 PM right now in EST, and even earlier than that in other parts of NA. Don't know if a lot of people will be able to watch. That is, of course assuming that a lot of people in NA watch this.
36k or so on all streams combined For one of the weaker groups that's plenty oO
My bad. I was just watching the English commentary because I don't speak any of the other languages. And the accents are just magical. :D
Yes ! :DDD
Also dunno why DIMAGA would stream himself practicing this build zvp then do it every game :/
On July 04 2013 03:00 packrat386 wrote: Seems like not a lot of people are watching.
"Just," 23k.
Note that it's 2:00 PM right now in EST, and even earlier than that in other parts of NA. Don't know if a lot of people will be able to watch. That is, of course assuming that a lot of people in NA watch this.
Sorry I just meant that the LR thread isn't the most active. I suppose I'm more used to larger events like the glabl finals and DH and such.
I don't know if I've seen big LR threads for this event thus far, but of course I could be wrong.
On July 04 2013 03:00 packrat386 wrote: Seems like not a lot of people are watching.
"Just," 23k.
Note that it's 2:00 PM right now in EST, and even earlier than that in other parts of NA. Don't know if a lot of people will be able to watch. That is, of course assuming that a lot of people in NA watch this.
36k or so on all streams combined For one of the weaker groups that's plenty oO
My bad. I was just watching the English commentary because I don't speak any of the other languages. And the accents are just magical. :D
Yes ! :DDD
Also dunno why DIMAGA would stream himself practicing this build zvp then do it every game :/
Well Dima played three identical games. That's kinda awkward.
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
The 2 letters is standard in Europe. It's just for safety. Same system is used in the Netherlands and Belgium.
yeah, but its not extremely efficient. We had to deal with the same kind of stuff in France
I actually like the system. Sending a card with a PIN attached isn't safe.
In Canada you are physically given your card in person at the bank, then you put it into a special debit machine and set your own pin number.
This is quite funny to me actually. According to this, you can actually make it out that duckdeok has a higher chance of getting into Top 2. This is because he has a higher chance of getting into Top 3 (51.84% vs 48.75%), and since ending Top 3 requires him to defeat Dayshi he can therefore be seen as having a higher chance than Dayshi to finish Top 2.
Statistics are funny.
I don't think that's what it's saying. I agree with your point about 4th, it's more so saying that if Dayshi beats duckdeok (which he's the underdog), he has a better chance of winning the second set.
On July 04 2013 02:46 Kennigit wrote: That being said, "German Efficiency" is waaay overrated. It took a week and a half to get my debit card for my bank account and 2 pieces of mail...1 had my pin number...another had the card. Meanwhile at TD i go "hey i lost my card." "ok heres a new one".
Government stuff also extremely slow compared to Canada. Thats the only real negatives ive noticed about germany though, being able to drink in the street more than makes up for it.
The 2 letters is standard in Europe. It's just for safety. Same system is used in the Netherlands and Belgium.
yeah, but its not extremely efficient. We had to deal with the same kind of stuff in France
I actually like the system. Sending a card with a PIN attached isn't safe.
In Canada you are physically given your card in person at the bank, then you put it into a special debit machine and set your own pin number.
Hasuobs shoud really have done a counter attack after the first fight. Even faking the fight would have forced DIMAGA to rebuild a useless army in late game. :/
I don't think HasuObs was looking too good vs DIMAGA. DIMA could have easily played solid and demolished Hasu, but DIMA instead played like crap and through an easy series.
fuck you hasu i fucking LOVE YOU ! damn yes after TLO lost i was so down and now i am so unbelievable happy making my exam and hasu advance SAME DAY !!! xD
On July 04 2013 03:24 Musicus wrote: How can you not love hasuobs? Such a cool character, I hope he stays in e-sports forever .
He seems very nice. But the way he plays some of his games just puts me off.
That's understandable, but I learned to appreciate his clean, methodical play and while being defensive he always counterattacks. Also I really hope he becomes a caster in the (far away) future, his casting i excellent.
MVP protosses sure are a bizarre bunch, they'll outcarry their zerg/protoss counterparts in team leagues all the time but the second an individual league comes along they're worthless.
On July 04 2013 03:35 Fusilero wrote: MVP protosses sure are a bizarre bunch, they'll outcarry their zerg/protoss counterparts in team leagues all the time but the second an individual league comes along they're worthless.
problem is that they aren't as good in Bo3 series. bo1 favors crazy builds a bit more.
I think these players who play with lag would be better off playing long macro games (if they are able to do it) instead of cheeses and all ins Micro won't help them here
I'd expect this endless procession of cheese and random builds from tails, but duckdeok is supposed to be way more solid than needing these kind of builds.
seriously, Daiyshi is just plain stupid not to build a bunker initially. Its like the Idra mindset: stick to what you think is good no matter what. Man this duck plays cheesier than the whole NA ladder together but still no bunker?!
On July 04 2013 03:51 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: He should stack his time warp bubbles a bit more
hahhha i dunno why these koreans are doing this to us, yesterday tails fails and today duckdeok, one would think they would add quality to these games ._.
On July 04 2013 03:52 JazVM wrote: seriously, Daiyshi is just plain stupid not to build a bunker initially. Its like the Idra mindset: stick to what you think is good no matter what. Man this duck plays cheesier than the whole NA ladder together but still no bunker?!
Bunker in game 2 would've won Dayshi the series, there was really no reason not to have one especially after killing the first zealot. I think Dimaga will win out though.
Imagine a sunny day at the lake. You are bathing in the sun and enjoying a nice beer when a duck walks up to you and poops on your towel. Thats how that series was.
It's like the Terran was on autopilot. It's like he memorized a few build orders and used them randomly during his games. No strategical thinking whatsoever.
On July 04 2013 03:57 JazVM wrote: Imagine a sunny day at the lake. You are bathing in the sun and enjoying a nice beer when a duck walks up to you and poops on your towel. Thats how that series was.
On July 04 2013 03:55 IntoTheheart wrote: Am I being too judgmental to say that the series wasn't amazing?
I guess that depends on what one likes. But I would agree with you.
Not amazing, but comical on its own way.
Don't get me wrong, I laughed a LOT but it wasn't the "OMFG THIS IS AN AMAZING GAME," it was more of, "wow this is my 2v2 strat playing out (and winning) in a 1v1."
On July 04 2013 03:55 IntoTheheart wrote: Am I being too judgmental to say that the series wasn't amazing?
I actually think it WAS amazing. Just not in a good way. I have rarely seen a more stubborn commitment to being as unprepared as possible against cheese, playing against someone who cheesed every game so far.
On July 04 2013 03:57 JazVM wrote: Imagine a sunny day at the lake. You are bathing in the sun and enjoying a nice beer when a duck walks up to you and poops on your towel. Thats how that series was.
Hahahaha this :D
I feel so bad for Dayshi now, duckdeok did not really look good, but he made just too many mistakes. I guess he was way too nervous, as he really impressed me in his games at ATC.
On July 04 2013 03:55 IntoTheheart wrote: Am I being too judgmental to say that the series wasn't amazing?
I actually think it WAS amazing. Just not in a good way. I have rarely seen a more stubborn commitment to being as unprepared as possible against cheese, playing against someone who cheesed every game so far.
I simply don't get it.
The inca mindgame "He always DT rushes so he can't possibly DT rush now. Oh god he DT rushed me"
On July 04 2013 03:55 IntoTheheart wrote: Am I being too judgmental to say that the series wasn't amazing?
I actually think it WAS amazing. Just not in a good way. I have rarely seen a more stubborn commitment to being as unprepared as possible against cheese, playing against someone who cheesed every game so far.
I simply don't get it.
The inca mindgame "He always DT rushes so he can't possibly DT rush now. Oh god he DT rushed me"
There is also the factor that Dayshi has one of the better macro in Europe. Arrogance of the player who believes himself to be the best.
On July 04 2013 03:58 Qwerty85 wrote: And now Duck will win over Dimaga.
That would be hilariously sad. But duckdeok seems to be willing to whore his soul out so I wouldn't even be surprised.
That's a bit harsh I'd say. He might not want to play a macro game as the longer you play, the more chances there are for lag to affect you into making a mistake
On July 04 2013 03:58 Qwerty85 wrote: And now Duck will win over Dimaga.
That would be hilariously sad. But duckdeok seems to be willing to whore his soul out so I wouldn't even be surprised.
That's a bit harsh I'd say. He might not want to play a macro game as the longer you play, the more chances there are for lag to affect you into making a mistake
But it's not even a creative cheese, it's just a plain old coinflip. Basically duckdeok didn't even care, he just throw his coin and let fate decides.
If he scouts, I'm dead. If he is lucky, I'm dead. Else I win.
while this might be the most efficient way to them to deal with the lag from korea, it's a completely frustrating experience to watch this guy cheese like 10 games in a row. I can't stand it. I so hope that he will go out and decides not to try for EU again.
On July 04 2013 04:14 stuchiu wrote: what was the follow up after the gateway all-in? My net shut down.
A blink all in... with +1 armor. Which like, makes no sense whatsoever
I lol'd
It's true though, you'd want +2 attack for 3 shotting lings and I believe 9 shotting roaches. Or some people have tried shield upgrades because with perfect micro, you'd want stalkers to regenerate shields which means more of their longtime health will be in shields. Armor makes no sense at all.
Also the HongUn build is macro nexus triple forge... or 2 base carrier PvT.
On July 04 2013 04:14 stuchiu wrote: what was the follow up after the gateway all-in? My net shut down.
A blink all in... with +1 armor. Which like, makes no sense whatsoever
Ok, the name of this all-in is the Anypro Anytime. In honor of Anypro's entire career being blink stalker all-ins.
Still waiting for a write-up of all-ins with your fancy names.
The HongUn build? Blink stalkers all day every day.
The Hongun is a way of life, not just a build. Not only do you do mass blink stalkers, but when ahead you make carriers and die to zerg or just make pure zealot colossi and pray Terran doesn't make vikings.
On July 04 2013 04:14 stuchiu wrote: what was the follow up after the gateway all-in? My net shut down.
A blink all in... with +1 armor. Which like, makes no sense whatsoever
Ok, the name of this all-in is the Anypro Anytime. In honor of Anypro's entire career being blink stalker all-ins.
Still waiting for a write-up of all-ins with your fancy names.
The HongUn build? Blink stalkers all day every day.
The Hongun is a way of life, not just a build. Not only do you do mass blink stalkers, but when ahead you make carriers and die to zerg or just make pure zealot colossi and pray Terran doesn't make vikings.
I remember when he made carriers in GSL and then he won with them. Good times, i miss them. Also, it was on Delta Quadrant, one of the greatest maps ever
Why did Dima go mutas? He's better than Duckdeok, he knew some sort of all-in was incoming, why not just go roach-hydra-viper and win like he did in the last three games?
On July 04 2013 04:26 imareaver3 wrote: Why did Dima go mutas? He's better than Duckdeok, he knew some sort of all-in was incoming, why not just go roach-hydra-viper and win like he did in the last three games?
You can't get anywhere close to roach/hydra/viper before that timing kills you. It will kill you extremely hard actually if you tech that hard. Just go pure roach with a good concave and good control, that should do it especially considering how early Dimaga knew about it
On July 04 2013 04:26 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Duckduck will win only to forfeit his ro16 spot at the last minute because his team can't afford to fly him to germany.
I think they just need to fly him to the eastern most part of Russia?
On July 04 2013 04:26 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Duckduck will win only to forfeit his ro16 spot at the last minute because his team can't afford to fly him to germany.
I think they just need to fly him to the eastern most part of Russia?
They have to fly him into Europe, so either the werstern Bosphorus or atleast over the Ural
On July 04 2013 04:26 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Duckduck will win only to forfeit his ro16 spot at the last minute because his team can't afford to fly him to germany.
I think they just need to fly him to the eastern most part of Russia?
He'll play his games on the Transsiberian Railroad.
On July 04 2013 04:26 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Duckduck will win only to forfeit his ro16 spot at the last minute because his team can't afford to fly him to germany.
That is what i thought too. The MVP players are probably only cheesing because they know even if they make it out of the groups, they couldn't travel to Germany. They don't want to invest time and preparation. And their games show it. But who knows...
On July 04 2013 04:26 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Duckduck will win only to forfeit his ro16 spot at the last minute because his team can't afford to fly him to germany.
That is what i thought too. The MVP players are probably only cheesing because they know even if they make it out of the groups, they couldn't travel to Germany. They don't want to invest time and preparation. And their games show it. But who knows...
Yeah i get this feeling too, and it annoys the hell out of me :S Same in WCS NA with violet who is in premier but cant get back into US due to visa problems, so going past ro32 is basically impossible for him ? They should disqualify people for a couple seasons who do that.
Why didnt dimaga just fake a counter attack if duck pushed out, delaying his army while making mass mutas. With so many sentris, immortals, collosi that would have been great.
On July 04 2013 04:43 TTOMZ wrote: Protoss all ins ruins this game
You are being silly. All duckdeok has done so far is allining, yet nobody prepares for it. I'd say that is their own fault, DIMAGA played terrible this series, it's sad but true.
On July 04 2013 04:43 TTOMZ wrote: Protoss all ins ruins this game
You are being silly. All duckdeok has done so far is allining, yet nobody prepares for it. I'd say that is their own fault, DIMAGA played terrible this series, it's sad but true.
daishy played worse, he could have won with just 2 bunkers every game
You can't go into a macro game with that delay (Korea -> Eu). So don't blame him for using allins. i can guarantee you, that he will play much better in germany.
On July 04 2013 04:43 TTOMZ wrote: Protoss all ins ruins this game
You are being silly. All duckdeok has done so far is allining, yet nobody prepares for it. I'd say that is their own fault, DIMAGA played terrible this series, it's sad but true.
daishy played worse, he could have won with just 2 bunkers every game
Yep agree, both players didn't really look like their usual awesome self tbqh.
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
On July 04 2013 04:46 Amira wrote: You can't go into a macro game with that delay (Korea -> Eu). So don't blame him for using allins. i can guarantee you, that he will play much better in germany.
anyways. i'm happy to see him advance
Not sure if he should play a macro game to be honest.
Does zergs still lose to the old immortal sentry push? Damn it, they made the hydralisks more viable and ovie speed earlier so you can beat it and you have this swarm hosts thing that on ladder, for some reason is destroying protoss players, but in tournament it is being used rarely. Dimaga, keep making roaches to kill immortals but try to make it look less one sided by attacking from 2 fronts and not running into from the smallest choke point available, if in diamond league zergs figured it, as a GM+ player you should know that. Damn it, pros makes me go on rants, gratz to duckdeok advancing.
Edit: just wanted to add some more, Dimaga need to learn from past mistakes, just like he managed to somehow lose a 150 supply army that is the perfect composition to defeat MVP in the WCS eu final matches and chose the choke that cant fit 3 zealots side by side and even block his army with his queens, he managed this time to split his army in 2 and make sure every group is in a different 4 FFs choke. All he needed to do is bait the protoss to go to that juicy 3rd and destroy him by taking half of the army around and flank, sorround and finish. I guess waiting is not the right thing to do when it comes to the fact that if your enemy waits longer he gets some more advantage (energy, also its not a whine, I play toss, keep waiting as i get more energy for storm plz!), I guess we will not have a finalist for EU unless he will tell himself to go when he needs to, not when he feels safest to do so.
Time to see if a eSF team has the money for a round trip flight to Germany. Didn't MVP win a big LoL tournament recently? So they probably got some money.
On July 04 2013 04:46 IntoTheheart wrote: To be honest now I wanna play SC2 like Duckdeok. Only difference is that I'll still be in Silver and he's a pro.
You'll be in masters in no time don't worry. Just don't make more than 42 probes.
On July 04 2013 04:26 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Duckduck will win only to forfeit his ro16 spot at the last minute because his team can't afford to fly him to germany.
That is what i thought too. The MVP players are probably only cheesing because they know even if they make it out of the groups, they couldn't travel to Germany. They don't want to invest time and preparation. And their games show it. But who knows...
Their LoL squad is doing amazing atm, I don't think MVP is short of money.
On July 04 2013 04:48 Megiddosc wrote: Time to see if a eSF team has the money for a round trip flight to Germany. Didn't MVP win a big LoL tournament recently? So they probably got some money.
They are one of the strongest eSF teams. MVP is not Prime or Hoseo.
No duckdeok interview ? Nah, just kidding, ducks don't speak english.
On July 04 2013 04:46 IntoTheheart wrote: To be honest now I wanna play SC2 like Duckdeok. Only difference is that I'll still be in Silver and he's a pro.
You'll be in masters in no time don't worry. Just don't make more than 42 probes.
On July 04 2013 04:49 4ZakeN87 wrote: Funny that the pro player with the most retarded nick in SC2 is also the pro player with the most stupid play style x)
I think we can agree TAiLS did worse? He never even expanded, did he?
On July 04 2013 04:49 4ZakeN87 wrote: Funny that the pro player with the most retarded nick in SC2 is also the pro player with the most stupid play style x)
I think we can agree TAiLS did worse? He never even expanded, did he?
If your 8 gate 10 cybercore build fails, you just do it again the next game!
I don't think.... I don't think Full Foreigner is enough here. Duckduck was a failed 4-gate away from going out 0-2, 0-2, and somehow managed to make it on.
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
On July 04 2013 04:52 Tarrot wrote: I don't think.... I don't think Full Foreigner is enough here. Duckduck was a failed 4-gate away from going out 0-2, 0-2, and somehow managed to make it on.
At least wait to see what he has to offer in good playing conditions. Beating Dimaga and Dayshi while lagging is a good accomplishment for non-mvp level koreans, no matter how he did it.
Was kind of disgusted at some of the blatant player bashing comments tbh.
Quack quack quack!! Europe cannot hold! Brings a smile to my face when koreans advance in wcs eu since european fans are always so smug about holding in their tournaments and shitting on NA when they fail to recognize a fraction of KRs even play in euro tourneys in the first place compared to NA tourneys. Hopefully, MVP wins eu again this time!
On a side note, I do like dimaga though so wish it came at the expense of a different player, so I feel bad for dimaga!
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
So much hate in this thread.
Code S Toss or not, if Dayshis Battlecry wasnt "Bunkers are for Sissies", he would be in challenger league now. It's funny how much of a difference these small things can make.
On July 04 2013 05:01 Canucklehead wrote: Quack quack quack!! Europe cannot hold! Brings a smile to my face when koreans advance in wcs eu since european fans are always so smug about holding in their tournaments and shitting on NA when they fail to recognize a fraction of KRs even play in euro tourneys in the first place compared to NA tourneys. Hopefully, MVP wins eu again this time!
On a side note, I do like dimaga though so wish it came at the expense of a different player, so I feel bad for dimaga!
I dunno, I think there should be a loss condition for when you float > 3k, let alone 6k or w/e he was doing
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
So much hate in this thread.
Code S Toss or not, if Dayshis Battlecry wasnt "Bunkers are for Sissies", he would be in challenger league now. It's funny how much of a difference these small things can make.
If the lag from KR->EU wasn't so bad there wouldn't be very many Europeans in premier league either
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
So much hate in this thread.
Code S Toss or not, if Dayshis Battlecry wasnt "Bunkers are for Sissies", he would be in challenger league now. It's funny how much of a difference these small things can make.
The thing is that in their level on play they should already know not to do those "Little things". Duck is good, dont question that, but if players do really dumb decitions it is their problem alone (guess what happened? They are in challanger, not anybody else).
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
So much hate in this thread.
Code S Toss or not, if Dayshis Battlecry wasnt "Bunkers are for Sissies", he would be in challenger league now. It's funny how much of a difference these small things can make.
If the lag from KR->EU wasn't so bad there wouldn't be very many Europeans in premier league either
On July 04 2013 05:01 Canucklehead wrote: Quack quack quack!! Europe cannot hold! Brings a smile to my face when koreans advance in wcs eu since european fans are always so smug about holding in their tournaments and shitting on NA when they fail to recognize a fraction of KRs even play in euro tourneys in the first place compared to NA tourneys. Hopefully, MVP wins eu again this time!
Congratulations, you got your revenge! Now you get to spend the day with a smile on your face and feel fulfilled!
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
So much hate in this thread.
Code S Toss or not, if Dayshis Battlecry wasnt "Bunkers are for Sissies", he would be in challenger league now. It's funny how much of a difference these small things can make.
The thing is that in their level on play they should already know not to do those "Little things". Duck is good, dont question that, but if players do really dumb decitions it is their problem alone (guess what happened? They are in challanger, not anybody else).
It's all about cutting corners. Innovation cheesed the first game of WCS KR and got a massive lead but forgot to make tanks 3 games in a row. And you cannot accuse Innovation of being dumb or making dumb decisions. We are the Deus Ex-Machina, we see everything. In their mind, they cannot fathom the likeliness of statistically events happening so many times in a row. This is just human.
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
So much hate in this thread.
Code S Toss or not, if Dayshis Battlecry wasnt "Bunkers are for Sissies", he would be in challenger league now. It's funny how much of a difference these small things can make.
If the lag from KR->EU wasn't so bad there wouldn't be very many Europeans in premier league either
No doubt, but aren't you quoting the wrong person here?
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
So much hate in this thread.
Code S Toss or not, if Dayshis Battlecry wasnt "Bunkers are for Sissies", he would be in challenger league now. It's funny how much of a difference these small things can make.
If the lag from KR->EU wasn't so bad there wouldn't be very many Europeans in premier league either
Scarlett spitting mad truth!
no one disagrees that there are enough good koreans to crowd out everyone, i dont think anyone has ever said otherwise. doesnt hide the fact that the NA scene actively hates on people who want to improve.
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
So much hate in this thread.
Code S Toss or not, if Dayshis Battlecry wasnt "Bunkers are for Sissies", he would be in challenger league now. It's funny how much of a difference these small things can make.
If the lag from KR->EU wasn't so bad there wouldn't be very many Europeans in premier league either
If WCS EU required as much offline presence as WCS KR, there wouldn't be any Koreans in premier league at all.
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
So much hate in this thread.
Code S Toss or not, if Dayshis Battlecry wasnt "Bunkers are for Sissies", he would be in challenger league now. It's funny how much of a difference these small things can make.
If the lag from KR->EU wasn't so bad there wouldn't be very many Europeans in premier league either
If WCS EU required as much offline presence as WCS KR, there wouldn't be any Koreans in premier league at all.
several live in houses there. MVP plays from germany. Could probably find a way to play.
edit: come to think of it, this could hurt EU involvement too--EU is way bigger than KR
On July 04 2013 05:29 kollin wrote: What happened in game 2 of duckdeok vs dimaga i was afk
Finale did the Magic Johnson and it was super effective. Dimaga got 11 mutas out but he didn't have the gas to build anything else but ling/muta and very few broaches. Finale caught wind of it by seeing the ground army and warped in mostly stalkers to reinforce. Lings melted to colossi, stalkers + guardian shield killed the mutas even before the colossi died and great forcefields blocked everything else out. Dimaga just GG'd after losing the mutas
On July 04 2013 05:27 SkyTheUnknown wrote: ggwp Hasu! Too many Koreans advancing in this round though. Duckdeok is a wasted spot compared to a DIMAGA-smile.
How is he a wasted spot? He won and dimaga didn't.
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
So much hate in this thread.
Code S Toss or not, if Dayshis Battlecry wasnt "Bunkers are for Sissies", he would be in challenger league now. It's funny how much of a difference these small things can make.
If the lag from KR->EU wasn't so bad there wouldn't be very many Europeans in premier league either
If WCS EU required as much offline presence as WCS KR, there wouldn't be any Koreans in premier league at all.
wrong. MVP considered to come to europe for round of 32 already because he struggled a little bit in season 1 and almost got eliminated.
Ah, I love it that the poll questions were finally asked clearly in this thread and not the stupid mysterious "Head? Heart?" like usually. I always assumed that they meant this anyway but I was never totally sure and I think it was just unnecessary to use these short versions. Good job Scarlett.
On July 04 2013 04:45 DasHawk wrote: Can't believe Dimaga lost to DUCKDUCK! Diden't look himself in the last 2 games, normal Dimaga would smack that cheese newb down easy.
I don't think you know who finale is. Cheese newb...really or just trolling? I wouldn't call Code S toss a newb.
So much hate in this thread.
Code S Toss or not, if Dayshis Battlecry wasnt "Bunkers are for Sissies", he would be in challenger league now. It's funny how much of a difference these small things can make.
If the lag from KR->EU wasn't so bad there wouldn't be very many Europeans in premier league either
If WCS EU required as much offline presence as WCS KR, there wouldn't be any Koreans in premier league at all.
wrong. MVP considered to come to europe for round of 32 already because he struggled a little bit in season 1 and almost got eliminated.
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