(Vote): JYP vs Stats (Vote): HerO vs Flash (Vote): aLive vs Zest (Vote): Oz vs Crazy (Vote): Revival vs hitmaN (Vote): Jaedong vs Myungsik
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EGTL are already eliminated from playoff contention. They can finish no higher than 6th place. A loss today will put them back to 7th place due to mapscores. A win today will put them one game ahead of CJ Entus and 2 games ahead of Team 8.
KT Rolster have already qualified for the playoffs and sit in 2nd place. They are currently battling with SKT T1 and STX for position in the playoffs. If KT Rolster win today, they will be one game ahead of STX SouL. If they lose, they will be tied with STX SouL with a superior differential, allowing them to stay in second.
Playoff Positioning KT sit in 2nd place with 22-17, +18. They have 3 games left. In order to seal second place, KT Rolster need to win at least 2/3 games and have a net differential of +5 from these remaining games.
For STX to overtake KT Rolster, KT Rolster need to lose at least 1/3 games AND have a net differential of less than +4 from these remaining games, with STX winning 2/2 as 4-0s in this scenario. STX need to win at least as many games as KT Rolster from their remaining games while making up that 5 mapscore difference.
If SKT T1 want to jump up to second, they either need to win 2/2 games with KT Rolster losing at least 2/3 games and STX losing at least 1/2, or win 1/2 games with KT Rolster and STX SouL losing all their remaining games. These 'at least' scenarios will tie SKT in the amount of wins, but SKT need a superior mapscore in order to qualify as second. Unfortunately they are at +13, the lowest of the three. They basically need to get two 4-0s and hope for KT and STX to lose as many games as possible.
On June 25 2013 11:00 Caihead wrote: A wild MyuNgSiK appears
Myungsik has only played HerO, JangBi and Parting in HoTS. lol that's some luck he's got. He did beat JangBi in WoL though. And apparently he beat Jaedong back in February on Entombed but I don't remember the game.
On June 25 2013 11:49 Bagration wrote: KT has farmed EGTL for wins all season.
Unless I'm mistaken, KT is the only team EG-TL have failed to beat all season. The combined map score in their 5 meetings is 20-4 for KT. KT all-killed EG-TL the first 3 times. R4 was their closest meeting, when JD beat Flash and EG-TL went 3-up before getting reverse all-killed with JD getting JvP'd in the ace match.
On June 25 2013 11:49 Bagration wrote: KT has farmed EGTL for wins all season.
Unless I'm mistaken, KT is the only team EG-TL have failed to beat all season. The combined map score in their 5 meetings is 20-4 for KT. KT all-killed EG-TL the first 3 times. R4 was their closest meeting, when JD beat Flash and EG-TL went 3-up before getting reverse all-killed with JD getting JvP'd in the ace match.
Wow that is depressing
Well this is the last round and they've been doing well, so here's hoping
On June 25 2013 14:08 ThatGuyDoMo wrote: GOGO EGTL
Wish we had JD vs Flash though :D Maybe for ace ^.^
Fingers crossed for LeeSsangRok ace match
I actually think EG-TL have a small chance to finally break their KT curse, and if they do, it will be in classic Coach Park style, in an ace match. KT's front 3 of Stats, Flash, and Zest have been their strength all season, but it's their bench that have been their weakness. Even if EG-TL lose the first 3, they could very well overpower Crazy, Hitman, and Myungsik and bring it to an epic ace match. And from there, well... JD's already done it once this season! Just so long as KT doesn't get wise again and probe rush the Dong.
Shutting down KT-Rolster (#2) after beating Woongjin Stars (#1) twice in a row would be the best possible way for EG-TL to end this season in the eyes of their fans and probably themselves.
JYP looked completely outclassed, there. He got out multi-tasked when trying the oracle & warp prism harass and got stuck in a really rough 1-base vs 2-base position
On June 25 2013 14:54 Holdenintherye wrote: Go for all the tech eh?
this is as funny as jyp* trying to blind counter stat's pvp build+ Show Spoiler +
1 gate expand
from last games
3 gate oracle is the best counter to 1 gate expand . unfortunatly stats counter the counter . wich was obviously blink . pretty fail by jyp . 1 step ahead or or 2 behind and will work in curent pvp metagame . never 1 behind or u get obliterated ..
poor jyp Q.Q
edit 2# : Am I the only one thinking jyp kind of hesitated ? like he first was thinking 3 gate preasure then changed his mind and went for oracle ? cuz usualy the allin with 3 gate stargate is 2 gate ms core pylon stargate 2 stalkers then 3'd gate or that's atlast how alicia is doing it. and he went 3 gate into a very late stargate ...
On June 25 2013 14:55 Evil_Sheep wrote: Dunno what's up with JYP, he was solid for a long time in pvproleague, now he's just fallen apart in the matchup.
On June 25 2013 14:56 Type|NarutO wrote: Please be a good game, please be a good game, please be a good game. Everyone knows what I am talking about! :D
On June 25 2013 14:56 Type|NarutO wrote: Please be a good game, please be a good game, please be a good game. Everyone knows what I am talking about! :D
It's flash vs hero, it definitely has the potential to be the best game of the night
On June 25 2013 14:58 Gary Oak wrote: I'm getting wicked bad stuttering/lag on the Twitch stream. =(
I just wanna see Hero and Flash...
Check out the youtube links in the original post, they're free 1080p and flawless
If HerO had timed his mothership core movement properly when trying to get that second Photon Overcharge down, the game would have gone on (he could have forcefielded his natural ramp and resumed probe production)
On June 25 2013 15:15 Jacmert wrote: If HerO had timed his mothership core movement properly when trying to get that second Photon Overcharge down, the game would have gone on (he could have forcefielded his natural ramp and resumed probe production)
Yeah watching the 100 energy mothership core die was painful.
On June 25 2013 15:15 Jacmert wrote: If HerO had timed his mothership core movement properly when trying to get that second Photon Overcharge down, the game would have gone on (he could have forcefielded his natural ramp and resumed probe production)
Yeah watching the 100 energy mothership core die was painful.
If HerO had waited 5 more seconds, he could have sacked his MSC when trying to get that second Photon Overcharge down and he might still have come out even. But if he had never sent it in to the marines in the first place and taken the long way around (via the back/right side of the map), he could have gotten that Photon Overcharge down with no problems, other than losing a lot of those probes he'd left at the natural.
On June 25 2013 15:22 Albinoswordfish wrote: I knew the game was over once flash got hellbats in his base. Those things are surprisingly really good against Gateway units....
If I had a dollar for every unit that's good vs gateway units I'd have... um.... how many units are in the game?
On June 25 2013 15:22 Albinoswordfish wrote: I knew the game was over once flash got hellbats in his base. Those things are surprisingly really good against Gateway units....
Suprisingly good with all scvs to back them up and a medivac, yeah.
On June 25 2013 15:22 Albinoswordfish wrote: I knew the game was over once flash got hellbats in his base. Those things are surprisingly really good against Gateway units....
If I had a dollar for every unit that's good vs gateway units I'd have... um.... how many units are in the game?
Don't you start! Gateway units are great. Except for the Stalker, of course... and even that is alright.
On June 25 2013 15:22 Albinoswordfish wrote: I knew the game was over once flash got hellbats in his base. Those things are surprisingly really good against Gateway units....
If I had a dollar for every unit that's good vs gateway units I'd have... um.... how many units are in the game?
Don't you start! Gateway units are great. Except for the Stalker, of course... and even that is alright.
On June 25 2013 15:22 Albinoswordfish wrote: I knew the game was over once flash got hellbats in his base. Those things are surprisingly really good against Gateway units....
If I had a dollar for every unit that's good vs gateway units I'd have... um.... how many units are in the game?
Hey I think Stalkers are pretty good against SCVs! Oh wait nevermind...
i wonder if zest is good enough to beat jaedong in a pvz . cuz he's best pvper or atlast top3 with rain and jangbi . wonder if he is best pick for ace match .
On June 25 2013 15:27 xsnac wrote: i wonder if zest is good enough to beat jaedong in a pvz . cuz he's best pvper or atlast top3 with rain and jangbi . wonder if he is best pick for ace match .
On June 25 2013 15:28 Hevad Khan wrote: eg-tl will win 4 str8 to take it 4-2
Did you just make a new account with your real name lol. ~_~ I see the next Dan Stemkoski in the making and does liquid poker have a + membership now too? I should check that site more often.
You guys should just stop using twitch if it lags for you. I get lag problems with it sometimes, and the youtube stream has yet to give me any problems whatsoever, so I figure defaulting to youtube is the best option from now on.
How is it that EG-TL has been able to take down SKT1 and Woongjin in even fashion but cannot make even a single mark on KT Rolster? It makes almost no sense.
I feel we need Oz, the Great & Powerful to come out and Revive our chances and end KT's Tyranny as our own HerO emerges once more to reclaim victory. /believe
On June 25 2013 15:48 Jacmert wrote: I feel we need Oz, the Great & Powerful to come out and Revive our chances and end KT's Tyranny as our own HerO emerges once more to reclaim victory. /believe
On June 25 2013 15:47 Packawana wrote: How is it that EG-TL has been able to take down SKT1 and Woongjin in even fashion but cannot make even a single mark on KT Rolster? It makes almost no sense.
so disappointed in alive losing that game. to be fair though the final 3 players for KT are also their weakest for this lineup so an Ace is still possible
On June 25 2013 15:56 Hevad Khan wrote: so disappointed in alive losing that game. to be fair though the final 3 players for KT are also their weakest for this lineup so an Ace is still possible
On June 25 2013 15:47 Packawana wrote: How is it that EG-TL has been able to take down SKT1 and Woongjin in even fashion but cannot make even a single mark on KT Rolster? It makes almost no sense.
It isn't hard to understand if you still believe that SC2 is more volatile than it should be.
On June 25 2013 15:56 Hevad Khan wrote: so disappointed in alive losing that game. to be fair though the final 3 players for KT are also their weakest for this lineup so an Ace is still possible
You keep thinking that. Stick to poker man :V
K so guy with 19400 posts says crazy/hitman/myungsik > flash/zest/stats
On June 25 2013 15:47 Packawana wrote: How is it that EG-TL has been able to take down SKT1 and Woongjin in even fashion but cannot make even a single mark on KT Rolster? It makes almost no sense.
why did Airforce ACE go 2-1 vs KT in the last BW PL but 0-3 vs SKT??
On June 25 2013 15:56 Hevad Khan wrote: so disappointed in alive losing that game. to be fair though the final 3 players for KT are also their weakest for this lineup so an Ace is still possible
You keep thinking that. Stick to poker man :V
K so guy with 19400 posts says crazy/hitman/myungsik > flash/zest/stats
your parents shouldn't have reproduced
CH is good man. KT actually starts with their best four, now that Action looks pretty sad
On June 25 2013 15:56 Hevad Khan wrote: so disappointed in alive losing that game. to be fair though the final 3 players for KT are also their weakest for this lineup so an Ace is still possible
You keep thinking that. Stick to poker man :V
K so guy with 19400 posts says crazy/hitman/myungsik > flash/zest/stats
your parents shouldn't have reproduced
CH is good man. KT actually starts with their best four, now that Action looks pretty sad
Never said he wasn't good. just said the first 3 that KT started were also their best 3. agree/disagree? move along folks
On June 25 2013 15:56 Hevad Khan wrote: so disappointed in alive losing that game. to be fair though the final 3 players for KT are also their weakest for this lineup so an Ace is still possible
You keep thinking that. Stick to poker man :V
K so guy with 19400 posts says crazy/hitman/myungsik > flash/zest/stats
On June 25 2013 15:47 Packawana wrote: How is it that EG-TL has been able to take down SKT1 and Woongjin in even fashion but cannot make even a single mark on KT Rolster? It makes almost no sense.
why did Airforce ACE go 2-1 vs KT in the last BW PL but 0-3 vs SKT??
On June 25 2013 15:56 Hevad Khan wrote: so disappointed in alive losing that game. to be fair though the final 3 players for KT are also their weakest for this lineup so an Ace is still possible
You keep thinking that. Stick to poker man :V
K so guy with 19400 posts says crazy/hitman/myungsik > flash/zest/stats
your parents shouldn't have reproduced
you clearly don't know jack shit about KT players.
Is it just a German thing that I need a proxy to view?
I have found 70% of youtube links I send to germans is blocked by the german government. They block Psy's official page ffs
It is not the government; it is an unsolved dispute between GEMA, a performance rights organisation in Germany and Youtube about the payment for digital rights. I am a bit puzzled how it affects this stream.
Is it just a German thing that I need a proxy to view?
I have found 70% of youtube links I send to germans is blocked by the german government. They block Psy's official page ffs
It is not the government; it is an unsolved dispute between GEMA, a performance rights organisation in Germany and Youtube about the payment for digital rights. I am a bit puzzled how it affects this stream.
GEMA obviously has to protect the rights to the mind song. And that lostprophets one.
On June 25 2013 15:56 Hevad Khan wrote: so disappointed in alive losing that game. to be fair though the final 3 players for KT are also their weakest for this lineup so an Ace is still possible
You keep thinking that. Stick to poker man :V
K so guy with 19400 posts says crazy/hitman/myungsik > flash/zest/stats
your parents shouldn't have reproduced
Please learn a thing or two about KT zergs, specially when kt hits the playoffs stage, or restrain yourself from posting.
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