problem was bisu was behind from the beginning... effing T got away with cc first and quick third, messes up all the standard timings you would expect and makes these semi allin scv pulls all the more powerful.
If CJ go 4-0 (4-0), they'll finish 20-22 (+6) If SKT go 0-4 (0-4), they'll finish 20-22 (-1)
...CJ aren't eliminated. I mean, they're as close to eliminated as humanly possible, but if SKT somehow chokes to hell, Samsung goes 1-3, and CJ kills everyone, they'd make it in.
On June 22 2013 14:39 Doublemint wrote: problem was bisu was behind from the beginning... effing T got away with cc first and quick third, messes up all the standard timings you would expect and makes these semi allin scv pulls all the more powerful.
Bisu played too safe, then tried to fast tech to colossus. Poor build order choice, IMHO. Where is the multi-tasking, harassing Revolutionist that we all knew and loved?
On June 22 2013 14:39 Doublemint wrote: problem was bisu was behind from the beginning... effing T got away with cc first and quick third, messes up all the standard timings you would expect and makes these semi allin scv pulls all the more powerful.
Bisu played too safe, then tried to fast tech to colossus. Poor build order choice, IMHO. Where is the multi-tasking, harassing Revolutionist that we all knew and loved?
at the rate he's going, he's gonna get there i believe. flash kinda played this way too with safe 3 rax builds when he was just starting out.
if he had one more fully charged sentry or had gotten a templar out just a bit quicker... bunny has all his forces just clumped at that ramp ff block...
On June 22 2013 14:39 Doublemint wrote: problem was bisu was behind from the beginning... effing T got away with cc first and quick third, messes up all the standard timings you would expect and makes these semi allin scv pulls all the more powerful.
Bisu played too safe, then tried to fast tech to colossus. Poor build order choice, IMHO. Where is the multi-tasking, harassing Revolutionist that we all knew and loved?
at the rate he's going, he's gonna get there i believe. flash kinda played this way too with safe 3 rax builds when he was just starting out.
Yeah, and Flash is only playing 50%, according to himself. Scary.
@grapedog He had 3 Hts just waiting to storm, but Bunny was able to attack before storm was done, if he was say 30 seconds late, Bisu would have destroyed that army.
On June 22 2013 14:39 Doublemint wrote: problem was bisu was behind from the beginning... effing T got away with cc first and quick third, messes up all the standard timings you would expect and makes these semi allin scv pulls all the more powerful.
Bisu played too safe, then tried to fast tech to colossus. Poor build order choice, IMHO. Where is the multi-tasking, harassing Revolutionist that we all knew and loved?
Other than the occasional proxy oracle, protoss doesn't really have any good harass options, especially against terran.
On June 22 2013 14:48 Decrith wrote: @grapedog He had 3 Hts just waiting to storm, but Bunny was able to attack before storm was done, if he was say 30 seconds late, Bisu would have destroyed that army.
thank you for the correction, it was storm that was holding him up. you know what i mean though, oh... could have been such beautiful storms.
On June 22 2013 15:35 PVJ wrote: Lot of people there, is it raining around Yongsan too?
Not sure what the deal is but it seems like since OGN aired the WCS Season Finals the crowds for Proleague have been bigger and for OSL it was full both nights.
On June 22 2013 15:35 PVJ wrote: Lot of people there, is it raining around Yongsan too?
Not sure what the deal is but it seems like since OGN aired the WCS Season Finals the crowds for Proleague have been bigger and for OSL it was full both nights.
On June 22 2013 15:35 PVJ wrote: Lot of people there, is it raining around Yongsan too?
Not sure what the deal is but it seems like since OGN aired the WCS Season Finals the crowds for Proleague have been bigger and for OSL it was full both nights.
On June 22 2013 15:35 PVJ wrote: Lot of people there, is it raining around Yongsan too?
Not sure what the deal is but it seems like since OGN aired the WCS Season Finals the crowds for Proleague have been bigger and for OSL it was full both nights.
From the TvPs I've watched recently Terrans are really getting the timing down where they attack the third before storm is researched. I think Protoss players need to start delaying their storm timing in favor of more units that way they can safely take a third.
On June 22 2013 15:55 Albinoswordfish wrote: From the TvPs I've watched recently Terrans are really getting the timing down where they attack the third before storm is researched. I think Protoss players need to start delaying their storm timing in favor of more units that way they can safely take a third.
Im not so sure, gateway units doesnt do much really.
On June 22 2013 15:55 Albinoswordfish wrote: From the TvPs I've watched recently Terrans are really getting the timing down where they attack the third before storm is researched. I think Protoss players need to start delaying their storm timing in favor of more units that way they can safely take a third.
On June 22 2013 16:08 ichnaschekot wrote: Twitch has been sucking ass for the last few weeks. Now it is down and the YouTube stream is not available in Germany. Yay.
On June 22 2013 15:55 Albinoswordfish wrote: From the TvPs I've watched recently Terrans are really getting the timing down where they attack the third before storm is researched. I think Protoss players need to start delaying their storm timing in favor of more units that way they can safely take a third.
Or just go storm before colossi
Can Protoss NOT go colossi versus Terran mid or late game? What else can Protoss do?
On June 22 2013 15:55 Albinoswordfish wrote: From the TvPs I've watched recently Terrans are really getting the timing down where they attack the third before storm is researched. I think Protoss players need to start delaying their storm timing in favor of more units that way they can safely take a third.
Or just go storm before colossi
Can Protoss NOT go colossi versus Terran mid or late game? What else can Protoss do?
On June 22 2013 15:55 Albinoswordfish wrote: From the TvPs I've watched recently Terrans are really getting the timing down where they attack the third before storm is researched. I think Protoss players need to start delaying their storm timing in favor of more units that way they can safely take a third.
Or just go storm before colossi
Can Protoss NOT go colossi versus Terran mid or late game? What else can Protoss do?
Yeah I think putting immortal's into the composition instead of Colossus allows you to get a stronger army quicker as it doesn't require the Robo Bay and the Thermal Lance upgrade.
On June 22 2013 16:08 ichnaschekot wrote: Twitch has been sucking ass for the last few weeks. Now it is down and the YouTube stream is not available in Germany. Yay.
On June 22 2013 15:55 Albinoswordfish wrote: From the TvPs I've watched recently Terrans are really getting the timing down where they attack the third before storm is researched. I think Protoss players need to start delaying their storm timing in favor of more units that way they can safely take a third.
Or just go storm before colossi
Can Protoss NOT go colossi versus Terran mid or late game? What else can Protoss do?
Yeah I think putting immortal's into the composition instead of Colossus allows you to get a stronger army quicker as it doesn't require the Robo Bay and the Thermal Lance upgrade.
Exactly. Going colossis on 2-base or early 3-base is rather weak. You can't push out, because Terran is more mobile and can stretch your main army thin.
What I'd like to see is more warp prism harass usage, a mix of chargelots + DTs. Give Terran a taste of their own medivacine.
On June 22 2013 15:55 Albinoswordfish wrote: From the TvPs I've watched recently Terrans are really getting the timing down where they attack the third before storm is researched. I think Protoss players need to start delaying their storm timing in favor of more units that way they can safely take a third.
Or just go storm before colossi
Can Protoss NOT go colossi versus Terran mid or late game? What else can Protoss do?
Yeah I think putting immortal's into the composition instead of Colossus allows you to get a stronger army quicker as it doesn't require the Robo Bay and the Thermal Lance upgrade.
Exactly. Going colossis on 2-base or early 3-base is rather weak. You can't push out, because Terran is more mobile and can stretch your main army thin.
What I'd like to see is more warp prism harass usage, a mix of chargelots + DTs. Give Terran a taste of their own medivacine.
Hmm so maybe Blizzard knew what they were doing after all...
I really wish there was starcraft music during SC2 games. I was casting BW today when I'm silent the cast is still kick ass cause the Terran theme music is rocking out in the background.
On June 22 2013 16:26 BisuDagger wrote: I really wish there was starcraft music during SC2 games. I was casting BW today when I'm silent the cast is still kick ass cause the Terran theme music is rocking out in the background.
There is music - this is ambient-drone thingie is the toss theme.
On June 22 2013 15:55 Albinoswordfish wrote: From the TvPs I've watched recently Terrans are really getting the timing down where they attack the third before storm is researched. I think Protoss players need to start delaying their storm timing in favor of more units that way they can safely take a third.
Or just go storm before colossi
Can Protoss NOT go colossi versus Terran mid or late game? What else can Protoss do?
Yeah I think putting immortal's into the composition instead of Colossus allows you to get a stronger army quicker as it doesn't require the Robo Bay and the Thermal Lance upgrade.
Exactly. Going colossis on 2-base or early 3-base is rather weak. You can't push out, because Terran is more mobile and can stretch your main army thin.
What I'd like to see is more warp prism harass usage, a mix of chargelots + DTs. Give Terran a taste of their own medivacine.
Hmm so maybe Blizzard knew what they were doing after all...
Anyway, I'm not whining about balance. Just the lack of diversity in PvT. Meta kinda stagnant since WoL.
On June 22 2013 16:26 BisuDagger wrote: I really wish there was starcraft music during SC2 games. I was casting BW today when I'm silent the cast is still kick ass cause the Terran theme music is rocking out in the background.
I wish the SC2 music was as awesome as Terran theme music in BW, one song from Terran is really nice in SC2 but its not the same thing
On June 22 2013 16:26 BisuDagger wrote: I really wish there was starcraft music during SC2 games. I was casting BW today when I'm silent the cast is still kick ass cause the Terran theme music is rocking out in the background.
There is music - this is ambient-drone thingie is the toss theme.
I mean like real music. The ambient thing is horrible. This is what I have to use as replacement.
On June 22 2013 16:26 BisuDagger wrote: I really wish there was starcraft music during SC2 games. I was casting BW today when I'm silent the cast is still kick ass cause the Terran theme music is rocking out in the background.
There is music - this is ambient-drone thingie is the toss theme.
On June 22 2013 16:38 HolyArrow wrote: EG-TL 6th place :D
Right where I had them at the start of the season. Surprise surprise. Heck, as it stands I have the bottom four right. Let's see if it holds as the season winds down.
On June 22 2013 16:48 SAFenix wrote: Somehow this victory does not seem complete with Bisu losing At least Rain won. And BoxeR showed up on camera more than three times.
Bisu is just patiently waiting to rape the new bonjwa Zerg with Phoenix-DT opening, crazy as it is.
Its fine, Bisu lost because Bunny was able to do a timing attack before storm. I watched how he played its very solid, especially how he was able to detect the medivacs in a split second. Had that timing attack come a little late, it would have gg the other way. As for Best woohoo, glad he won!
On June 22 2013 18:16 Qikz wrote: So does this mean that we're through now for playoffs? :O
It's not 100% yet but It's pretty damn certain, KHAN has to go 3-0 in their last 3 matches and we have to go 0-3 in our last 3 matches for us to get 5th.
SKT, KT and STX are all yet to play EGTL and Team 8. EGTL 3-0 right now and Team 8 2-2 with both having a win vs Stars this round. Can't wait to watch them wreck shit up.
On June 22 2013 18:16 Qikz wrote: So does this mean that we're through now for playoffs? :O
It's not 100% yet but It's pretty damn certain, KHAN has to go 3-0 in their last 3 matches and we have to go 0-3 in our last 3 matches for us to get 5th.
just watched the vods, best moment id say was the warpin block from parting to catch up to the immortals even tho the game was pretty much over by then