On June 20 2013 07:54 teddyoojo wrote: this got to be the most horrible tvt ive seen in a looong time, hopefully hellokitty advances as he is the second best player in this group LOL.
idk hellokitty didnt look any better in his series although I guess I can give him the benefit of the doubt for playing TaeJa. It looks like whoever comes out in 2nd will probably be the weakest player in premier for season 2.
On June 20 2013 07:54 teddyoojo wrote: this got to be the most horrible tvt ive seen in a looong time, hopefully hellokitty advances as he is the second best player in this group LOL.
idk hellokitty didnt look any better in his series although I guess I can give him the benefit of the doubt for playing TaeJa. It looks like whoever comes out in 2nd will probably be the weakest player in premier for season 2.
i was searching for player that i could say "even worse than....?" but couldn't find one.
On June 20 2013 07:43 Shellshock1122 wrote: You could always pin the dropdown menu open so it's like how it used to be
how do I do this?
When you click the arrow to open up the drop down menu, there should be a little pin in the bottom right. if you click it, it should keep your drop down menu open at all times. looks like a thumbtack
On June 20 2013 07:43 Shellshock1122 wrote: You could always pin the dropdown menu open so it's like how it used to be
how do I do this?
When you click the arrow to open up the drop down menu, there should be a little pin in the bottom right. if you click it, it should keep your drop down menu open at all times. looks like a thumbtack
LOL it was almost literally invisible on my work monitor at the angle I was looking at it, such low contrast thanks!
Ouch, taeja being super dominant. I hope hellokitty doesn't end up advancing haha. Perhaps neeb or maker will be able to stop him when we get around to those games.
Man, you could tell just from his marine splitting and precise scans for widow mines who had a leg up in that last game. Really good precision just made that game spiral out of control.
Neeb seems to be playing much better than in the first game, but his drops aren't really working out. ...and as I was typing this, he actually did some damage with his drop, so never mind. ^^
On June 20 2013 08:30 garbanzo wrote: Can someone give me a summary of Taeja's games versus hellokitty and game one versus Neeb?
game 1 Hellokitty lost his main nexus to a doom drop then taeja sent his reinforcements to the 3rd to kill the nexus on whirlwind. then taeja wins the next fight.
game 2 taeja pretty much wins with his first widow mine, a medivac, and a few marines
wasnt paying that much attention in game 1 of this series
On June 20 2013 08:30 garbanzo wrote: Can someone give me a summary of Taeja's games versus hellokitty and game one versus Neeb?
game 1 Hellokitty lost his main nexus to a doom drop then taeja sent his reinforcements to the 3rd to kill the nexus on whirlwind. then taeja wins the next fight.
game 2 taeja pretty much wins with his first widow mine, a medivac, and a few marines
wasnt paying that much attention in game 1 of this series
Thanks! I never thought it was possible for you to not pay attention, but I guess you're not LRing.
On June 20 2013 08:30 garbanzo wrote: Can someone give me a summary of Taeja's games versus hellokitty and game one versus Neeb?
game 1 Hellokitty lost his main nexus to a doom drop then taeja sent his reinforcements to the 3rd to kill the nexus on whirlwind. then taeja wins the next fight.
game 2 taeja pretty much wins with his first widow mine, a medivac, and a few marines
wasnt paying that much attention in game 1 of this series
Thanks! I never thought it was possible for you to not pay attention, but I guess you're not LRing.
full foreigner...scans army of Taeja with huge lead and moves all units back to 3rd...I think Neeb overestimated and thought that Taeja must've had another army somewhere hiding...when in fact he had nothing because he was trying to transition and would've just died...
And then the vikings...and then the lack of proper response immediately when mass air revealed
Heheheh, Neeb dropping mules in response to Taeja's mules!
Also, does Axeltoss actually still play the game at some level? It seems like he's getting worse and worse with his commentary. That fight on Taeja's third was pretty one-sided, but he said that Neeb had so many tanks that it didn't matter...
Good game by neeb other than the mistake with the vikings and not finding out about Taeja's tech switch until too late. He has nothing to be ashamed of though, he's a young guy and he put up a much better fight against Taeja in that game than lots of pro's could.
I think overall neeb has looked like the second best player in the group. I think he should be able to get out. I hadnt heard about him until right before WCS so it's good to see some newer talent rising up.
On June 20 2013 08:40 Shellshock1122 wrote: I think overall neeb has looked like the second best player in the group. I think he should be able to get out. I hadnt heard about him until right before WCS so it's good to see some newer talent rising up.
Oh he's talented alright.
But as always, what separates talented up-and-comers from the top pros is on-the-spot decision making and reaction. He had set himself up really well for the later stages but couldn't hold onto his lead; meanwhile TaeJa saw the opportunity and exploited it as best he could to take back the lead and ultimately the victory.
With more experience and practice, neeb could go far.
On June 20 2013 08:58 Fusilero wrote: Somewhere in multiple esf houses there are countless angry b-teamers crying about them not choosing to play in WCS NA
On June 20 2013 09:00 StarscreamG1 wrote: lol, 2 starports and no pdd. tempest imba!
2 starports wasn't quite enough at that point anyway, ravens or no ravens. When your opponent is cranking tempests from 3 stargates, you might want to focus less on thors and more on air.
I wonder why most of the contenders in WCS America get stomped by Koreans - such a baller innovation to go with mass Tempest and having the necessary micro to pull it off vs one of the strongest tank/thor pushes out there....
On June 20 2013 09:04 Bagration wrote: Tempests + Templar could have been viable though, assuming sick spellcaster control
sOs played that one interesting game with that style but he made some mistakes and ended up losing. I guess it might be able to work on some maps but otherwise we might just end up with more naniwa vs thorzain infinite length games
On June 20 2013 09:04 Bagration wrote: Tempests + Templar could have been viable though, assuming sick spellcaster control
sOs played that one interesting game with that style but he made some mistakes and ended up losing. I guess it might be able to work on some maps but otherwise we might just end up with more naniwa vs thorzain infinite length games
On June 20 2013 09:13 Dark.Carnival wrote: i can forgive letting the dt in even though he had an hour to raise the depot, but losing the cc was so awful ;x
If Hellokitty had paid even a bit of attention to that scan instead of just sending the second DT in right away, the game would've been over right then and there.
On June 20 2013 09:13 Dark.Carnival wrote: i can forgive letting the dt in even though he had an hour to raise the depot, but losing the cc was so awful ;x
in the meantime losing 3 not 1 not 2 but 3 tanks to one single Dark Templar, i mean nooo this doens't even happen in laddergames.
On June 20 2013 09:18 Fusilero wrote: The amount of dodging of player insults from axslav/axeltoss is out of this world. Grats to neeb on making WCS NA season 2 premier league.
Gotta commend them for remaining professional during that atrocity.
So when people argue for region locking, is it more of this they want to see? Or is it the prospect that by some miracle the players suddenly get better?
On June 20 2013 09:22 nihlon wrote: So when people argue for region locking, is it more of this they want to see? Or is it the prospect that by some miracle the players suddenly get better?
I mean, I'm against region lock and I want to see koreans play, but it's been a while since I laughed this much at a game that wasn't casted by Artosis or MaximusBlack. Wouldn't mind seeing more =)
And more to the point, I'm pretty sure you can find 32 american players that don't do this.
On June 20 2013 09:22 nihlon wrote: So when people argue for region locking, is it more of this they want to see? Or is it the prospect that by some miracle the players suddenly get better?
You have to note that this is the problem with invites based off of results a year ago (or 7+ months ago). That is why some players that shouldn't be in challenger let alone premier are in this.
If they had been smart all of WCS would have been qualifier only and not invite with a few qualifiers.
I mean, why would you laugh at players for playing better than you? You can't even really say they're playing bad for progamers since you can't really become a progamer in NA because of all the Koreans. Don't think anyone should be surprised that when you don't allow a pro scene to develop you get amateurs who play like amateurs.
On June 20 2013 09:22 nihlon wrote: So when people argue for region locking, is it more of this they want to see? Or is it the prospect that by some miracle the players suddenly get better?
You have to note that this is the problem with invites based off of results a year ago (or 7+ months ago). That is why some players that shouldn't be in challenger let alone premier are in this.
If they had been smart all of WCS would have been qualifier only and not invite with a few qualifiers.
There would still be a good chance that players like Maker would have qualified if it were region locked. Might have gotten some hackers too. There just isn't 32 players in NA that are that strong
On June 20 2013 09:27 jalstar wrote: I mean, why would you laugh at players for playing better than you? You can't even really say they're playing bad for progamers since you can't really become a progamer in NA because of all the Koreans. Don't think anyone should be surprised that when you don't allow a pro scene to develop you get amateurs who play like amateurs.
Are you seriously going to pin this game on koreans playing in WCS? Because that would be even funnier than the game was.
On June 20 2013 09:22 nihlon wrote: So when people argue for region locking, is it more of this they want to see? Or is it the prospect that by some miracle the players suddenly get better?
You have to note that this is the problem with invites based off of results a year ago (or 7+ months ago). That is why some players that shouldn't be in challenger let alone premier are in this.
If they had been smart all of WCS would have been qualifier only and not invite with a few qualifiers.
There would still be a good chance that players like Maker would have qualified if it were region locked. Might have gotten some hackers too. There just isn't 32 players in NA that are that strong
Keep in mind that if there was a hard region lock they would need a place for all the non korean/european players-- WCS AM would be a great place for that. WCS AM/China/Oceania/everything else could definitely support 32+ solid players.
March 24 Acer TeamStory Cup - Starcraft2Strategy vs FXO NA Starcraft2Strategy is down 0-4 and sends out young Neeb Neeb fights furiously and slays hendralisk, Future , Drunkenboi and desRow 4-4 Ace match Neeb is one game away from all-killing the mighty FXO Mom tells him to stop playing. It's eight o'clock
Starcraft2Strategy forfeited their final game because Neeb was no longer available to play
March 27 FXO announces via Twitter that Neeb has joined the North American roster
On June 20 2013 09:40 AlternativeEgo wrote: Alright, intermission Neeb story time.
March 24 Acer TeamStory Cup - Starcraft2Strategy vs FXO NA Starcraft2Strategy is down 0-4 and sends out young Neeb Neeb fights furiously and slays hendralisk, Future , Drunkenboi and desRow 4-4 Ace match Neeb is one game away from all-killing the mighty FXO Mom tells him to stop playing. It's eight o'clock
Starcraft2Strategy forfeited their final game because Neeb was no longer available to play
March 27 FXO announces via Twitter that Neeb has joined the North American roster
That would be the time that I ask for 5 minutes, go to my parents, and "calmly" explain to them I need to keep playing
On June 20 2013 09:22 nihlon wrote: So when people argue for region locking, is it more of this they want to see? Or is it the prospect that by some miracle the players suddenly get better?
You have to note that this is the problem with invites based off of results a year ago (or 7+ months ago). That is why some players that shouldn't be in challenger let alone premier are in this.
If they had been smart all of WCS would have been qualifier only and not invite with a few qualifiers.
There would still be a good chance that players like Maker would have qualified if it were region locked. Might have gotten some hackers too. There just isn't 32 players in NA that are that strong
Keep in mind that if there was a hard region lock they would need a place for all the non korean/european players-- WCS AM would be a great place for that. WCS AM/China/Oceania/everything else could definitely support 32+ solid players.
It wouldn't really be competitive though as soon as you have a player like Scarlett playing. Plus you have to fill up the Challenger division, so that's a lot of players and a very sparse talent pool.
Plus, the idea of region lock is based on the idea that if given an exclusive tournament, the AM scene will begin to consistently produce solid players. I'm not sure about that
On June 20 2013 09:40 AlternativeEgo wrote: Alright, intermission Neeb story time.
March 24 Acer TeamStory Cup - Starcraft2Strategy vs FXO NA Starcraft2Strategy is down 0-4 and sends out young Neeb Neeb fights furiously and slays hendralisk, Future , Drunkenboi and desRow 4-4 Ace match Neeb is one game away from all-killing the mighty FXO Mom tells him to stop playing. It's eight o'clock
Starcraft2Strategy forfeited their final game because Neeb was no longer available to play
March 27 FXO announces via Twitter that Neeb has joined the North American roster
On June 20 2013 09:40 AlternativeEgo wrote: Alright, intermission Neeb story time.
March 24 Acer TeamStory Cup - Starcraft2Strategy vs FXO NA Starcraft2Strategy is down 0-4 and sends out young Neeb Neeb fights furiously and slays hendralisk, Future , Drunkenboi and desRow 4-4 Ace match Neeb is one game away from all-killing the mighty FXO Mom tells him to stop playing. It's eight o'clock
Starcraft2Strategy forfeited their final game because Neeb was no longer available to play
March 27 FXO announces via Twitter that Neeb has joined the North American roster
Awesome. Good story lol. Didn't know FXO was the team that he almost all-killed.
Very weird. Aren't these live? Because there couldn't have been even five minutes from when stream went down to when Undead1993 said Hellokitty was playing Incontrol on his stream. So then he must've forfeited?
On June 20 2013 10:01 Left hand wrote: Very weird. Aren't these live? Because there couldn't have been even five minutes from when stream went down to when Undead1993 said Hellokitty was playing Incontrol on his stream. So then he must've forfeited?
There's a stream delay and I'm not sure how long it is. If it's like 10 min, then it could have gone to game 2 and Hellokitty lost to the first hellbat drops and gged. neeb would have had like 15 min to win the game so it's not unreasonable
On June 20 2013 10:01 Left hand wrote: Very weird. Aren't these live? Because there couldn't have been even five minutes from when stream went down to when Undead1993 said Hellokitty was playing Incontrol on his stream. So then he must've forfeited?
There's a stream delay and I'm not sure how long it is. If it's like 10 min, then it could have gone to game 2 and Hellokitty lost to the first hellbat drops and gged. neeb would have had like 15 min to win the game so it's not unreasonable
On June 20 2013 09:40 AlternativeEgo wrote: Alright, intermission Neeb story time.
March 24 Acer TeamStory Cup - Starcraft2Strategy vs FXO NA Starcraft2Strategy is down 0-4 and sends out young Neeb Neeb fights furiously and slays hendralisk, Future , Drunkenboi and desRow 4-4 Ace match Neeb is one game away from all-killing the mighty FXO Mom tells him to stop playing. It's eight o'clock
Starcraft2Strategy forfeited their final game because Neeb was no longer available to play
March 27 FXO announces via Twitter that Neeb has joined the North American roster
Alright, ending Neeb story time.
I contacted Neeb before ATC even started on March 17, 2013...
[3/17/2013 5:52:28 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): Hi [3/17/2013 5:52:32 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): Neeb? [3/17/2013 5:52:39 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: hey [3/17/2013 5:52:43 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): Hi [3/17/2013 5:52:50 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): I am FXOpen North America's SC2 manager Seeker [3/17/2013 5:52:52 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): how are you? [3/17/2013 5:53:00 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: good [3/17/2013 5:53:27 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): that's good [3/17/2013 5:53:42 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): Are you currently in a team? [3/17/2013 5:53:51 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: kind of [3/17/2013 5:53:58 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: technically i am, but i dont do anything with them [3/17/2013 5:54:03 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: so i can basically leave whenever [3/17/2013 5:54:07 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): I see [3/17/2013 5:54:15 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): well FXOpen North America is interested in you [3/17/2013 5:54:23 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): I was wondering if you had some time to talk? [3/17/2013 5:54:30 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: yes i have time [3/17/2013 5:54:39 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): okay
On June 20 2013 09:40 AlternativeEgo wrote: Alright, intermission Neeb story time.
March 24 Acer TeamStory Cup - Starcraft2Strategy vs FXO NA Starcraft2Strategy is down 0-4 and sends out young Neeb Neeb fights furiously and slays hendralisk, Future , Drunkenboi and desRow 4-4 Ace match Neeb is one game away from all-killing the mighty FXO Mom tells him to stop playing. It's eight o'clock
Starcraft2Strategy forfeited their final game because Neeb was no longer available to play
March 27 FXO announces via Twitter that Neeb has joined the North American roster
Alright, ending Neeb story time.
I contacted Neeb before ATC even started on March 17, 2013...
[3/17/2013 5:52:28 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): Hi [3/17/2013 5:52:32 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): Neeb? [3/17/2013 5:52:39 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: hey [3/17/2013 5:52:43 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): Hi [3/17/2013 5:52:50 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): I am FXOpen North America's SC2 manager Seeker [3/17/2013 5:52:52 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): how are you? [3/17/2013 5:53:00 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: good [3/17/2013 5:53:27 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): that's good [3/17/2013 5:53:42 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): Are you currently in a team? [3/17/2013 5:53:51 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: kind of [3/17/2013 5:53:58 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: technically i am, but i dont do anything with them [3/17/2013 5:54:03 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: so i can basically leave whenever [3/17/2013 5:54:07 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): I see [3/17/2013 5:54:15 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): well FXOpen North America is interested in you [3/17/2013 5:54:23 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): I was wondering if you had some time to talk? [3/17/2013 5:54:30 PM] Alex Sunderhaft/Neeb: yes i have time [3/17/2013 5:54:39 PM] FXOSeeker (Michael Suh): okay
Aha! So that's why he didn't play the last game. :p
EPT
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