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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
June 18 2013 11:43 GMT
#1441
Wasn't that fangirl the cosplayer as well as voice actor for Korean SC2?
The curse is real
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25476 Posts
June 18 2013 11:43 GMT
#1442
Ok, cheesy but I love those player cards!

Somebody get on kickstarter. SC2 Pro Top Trumps. I will have to collect them all
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 11:44:20
June 18 2013 11:43 GMT
#1443
On June 18 2013 20:38 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 20:37 Scarecrow wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:34 boxerfred wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:31 Lunareste wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:26 boxerfred wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:20 Dodgin wrote:
So in the end, the favorites advanced from the group! And It hasn't been 6 hours!

I'm not hating this so far.



I'm not enjoying those matches. Ever since the the last few months of WoL, SC2 was simply boring to watch.

ZvP Metagame? Go 2base before zerg can reach BL/Winfestor. Let the game be decided (in case of late game) by splitting air units vs. vortex.
ZvT Metagame? Kill zerg before he can reach BL/Winfestor. Go Mass Raven in Case. Let the game be decided by splitting air units.
PvT Metagame? Either go Blink allin, or go Colossi->Templar and switch it around vs vikings and ghosts.
PvP Metagame? 1base until Min 8, then go 3base and have one culminating fight.
TvT Metagame? Mech vs Bio or Bio on Bio or Biomech on Biomech - that was actually interesting to watch!
ZvZ Metagame? Ling/Bling into Roach/Hydra/Infestor into casual BL/Winfestor

....

What now?

ZvP Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead of broodlords.
ZvT Metagame didn't change too much. It's now lot's of mutas and sometimes roach/hydra.
PvT Metagame didn't change at all, except stargate allins stronger than robo allins.
PvP Metagame didn't change at all.
TvT Metagame didn't change except for hellbats. Or well, you could call that a big change.
ZvZ Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead/before broodlords.
...

So, give me one more reason to find any matchup except TvZ or TvT interesting. The one and only match I have seen in HotS that was really fun to watch and simply great and WP'ed was Life vs. Sjow yesterday, G3.


Lol, I can tell that you have absolutely ZERO idea of what is going on with SC2. If you don't like it, don't watch; but don't come into the thread for a game you hate and act like you have ANY IDEA about what's occuring or what's different than at the end of the last expansion. The game is COMPLETELY different than WOL, and in fact is COMPLETELY different than the beginning of HOTS just three months ago.


I like it, and I do watch pretty much. I'm playing masters on ladder, so I guess my game knowledge can't be that bad. If you think it's "COMPLETELY different than WOL", and that I do not have "ANY IDEA", then please, show me why. If I make a bad point, I can always say "oh well, I'm wrong". So, show me!

If you think the PvP metagame hasn't changed since WoL you're clueless. The others are all way oversimplified/wrong too. Goes to show masters doesn't mean you understand/follow the game.


Show me a change in metagame and I'll instantly apologize. Just show me.

1 gate expand is viable, void ray comps are far more common. There's a variety of rushes/builds based around the mocore and nexus cannon now (or scouting with it and recalling). Stargate openers are very common and the oracle is useful as an emergency detection option. DT expand is also more viable with the cheaper shrine. Scouting's far more important because death ball compositions vary so much (tempest/immortal/void/archon) and 1 gate expo with sentries benefits from the free hallucinate. Storm has even become a standard response to mass void.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 11:46:10
June 18 2013 11:43 GMT
#1444
On June 18 2013 20:40 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 20:38 boxerfred wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:37 Scarecrow wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:34 boxerfred wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:31 Lunareste wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:26 boxerfred wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:20 Dodgin wrote:
So in the end, the favorites advanced from the group! And It hasn't been 6 hours!

I'm not hating this so far.



I'm not enjoying those matches. Ever since the the last few months of WoL, SC2 was simply boring to watch.

ZvP Metagame? Go 2base before zerg can reach BL/Winfestor. Let the game be decided (in case of late game) by splitting air units vs. vortex.
ZvT Metagame? Kill zerg before he can reach BL/Winfestor. Go Mass Raven in Case. Let the game be decided by splitting air units.
PvT Metagame? Either go Blink allin, or go Colossi->Templar and switch it around vs vikings and ghosts.
PvP Metagame? 1base until Min 8, then go 3base and have one culminating fight.
TvT Metagame? Mech vs Bio or Bio on Bio or Biomech on Biomech - that was actually interesting to watch!
ZvZ Metagame? Ling/Bling into Roach/Hydra/Infestor into casual BL/Winfestor

....

What now?

ZvP Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead of broodlords.
ZvT Metagame didn't change too much. It's now lot's of mutas and sometimes roach/hydra.
PvT Metagame didn't change at all, except stargate allins stronger than robo allins.
PvP Metagame didn't change at all.
TvT Metagame didn't change except for hellbats. Or well, you could call that a big change.
ZvZ Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead/before broodlords.
...

So, give me one more reason to find any matchup except TvZ or TvT interesting. The one and only match I have seen in HotS that was really fun to watch and simply great and WP'ed was Life vs. Sjow yesterday, G3.


Lol, I can tell that you have absolutely ZERO idea of what is going on with SC2. If you don't like it, don't watch; but don't come into the thread for a game you hate and act like you have ANY IDEA about what's occuring or what's different than at the end of the last expansion. The game is COMPLETELY different than WOL, and in fact is COMPLETELY different than the beginning of HOTS just three months ago.


I like it, and I do watch pretty much. I'm playing masters on ladder, so I guess my game knowledge can't be that bad. If you think it's "COMPLETELY different than WOL", and that I do not have "ANY IDEA", then please, show me why. If I make a bad point, I can always say "oh well, I'm wrong". So, show me!

If you think the PvP metagame hasn't changed since WoL you're clueless. The others are all way oversimplified/wrong too. Goes to show masters doesn't mean you understand/follow the game.


Show me a change in metagame and I'll instantly apologize. Just show me.


The use of skytoss instead of just colossus every game.


You're telling me skytoss is meta game in PvP? Okay, then there should be some replays and some kind of standard BO for that. Show me? Phoenix battles for part of PvP meta before HotS.


1 gate expand is viable, void ray comps are far more common. There's a variety of rushes/builds around the mocore and nexus cannon now (or scouting with it and recalling). Stargate openers are very common and the oracle is useful as an emergency detection option. DT expand is also more viable with the cheaper shrine. Scouting's far more important because death ball compositions vary so much (tempest/immortal/void/archon) and 1 gate expo with sentries benefits from the free hallucinate. Storm has even become a standard response to mass void.


It's one thing to call something viable, but that does not mean it's part of the meta game. Stargate openers were part of the metagame back in WoL, though you're right in that points, they weren't used that often as now in HotS. I could discuss about the details now, but I should accept that the metagame in PvP changed regarding BOs. But still, I'm saying that PvP basically still is in like 70-80% of the games 1base to min 8, then go 3base, and culminate in one big fight. You can't deny that.
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
June 18 2013 11:43 GMT
#1445
The fangirl with the cake was seriously hot, Bogus should ask her out
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 18 2013 11:43 GMT
#1446
Who's casting for the OGN stream?
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
June 18 2013 11:43 GMT
#1447
On June 18 2013 20:42 Clefairy wrote:
[image loading]


Sooo pretty :O

(Which one though? The Cake the Fan Girl .. or Innovation)
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#1448
must be good to be Innovation O_O
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
June 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#1449
On June 18 2013 20:42 Denar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 20:39 mikedebo wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:38 Denar wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:36 cravin74 wrote:
Is that megadeth playing on GOM?


Oh yeah, nice catch, Mustaine shredding in the background


Whoa, which song was it???


It was hard to recognize, but it sounded like their new single "Super Collider"


ew lol
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51463 Posts
June 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#1450
On June 18 2013 20:43 Tobblish wrote:
Wasn't that fangirl the cosplayer as well as voice actor for Korean SC2?


yes i believe she's from spiralcats
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#1451
On June 18 2013 20:43 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 20:42 Clefairy wrote:
[image loading]


Sooo pretty :O

(Which one though? The Cake the Fan Girl .. or Innovation)


That is one good looking cake.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 11:45:36
June 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#1452
--- Nuked ---
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
June 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#1453
On June 18 2013 20:42 Draconicfire wrote:
..

Dat Innovation fangirl. Oh man haha.

He needs to stay true to sc2, no girls only play.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#1454
Innovation looks so relaxed and confident.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25476 Posts
June 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#1455
On June 18 2013 20:43 THM wrote:
The fangirl with the cake was seriously hot, Bogus should ask her out

She should be the one asking him out, sheesh, expecting a sick nerd baller such as Innovation to do the running. Such boldness!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#1456
On June 18 2013 20:42 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 20:36 Wintex wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:34 PVJ wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:30 Pandemona wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:29 SoleSteeler wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:27 Pandemona wrote:
Not knowing much about Korea, what is the "nightclub" scene like? Is it bunch of Kpop being blasted out till 3am or is it pretty much the same as the Western world?

DownTime QuestionTime :3


Basically the same music except until as late as you want (7 AM isn't rare to leave...), and they do throw in Kpop in there occasionally sure, of course. Largely western style in my experience, though.


Oooo nice nice. Is it a big thing to do like it is in the western world to go "clubbing" and such? Not like i think there all strict and what not, but i just didn't see it mixing well culture wise to the younger sort of age group if they have so much pressure to study etc

Wild Tastosis appear on GOM stream in front of DJ

Yeah, Hongdae is like a 24/7 roskilde, or Sziget, or primavera.

Also, they do it even better because they eat a lot of stuff so you get drunk much later on. I like to go out with Korean people they are the most likeable, social, and open minded crazy bunch I've ever lvied with. (Maybe just compared with the way we drank in Finland.)

My friends who go to Roskilde only bitch about the thing that is.... the naughtiness and smell. It's disgusting... It is not like that right? If so, sounds like a fucking great area to live in when you are studying etc.

Korea is pretty dirty in general. A few years back they removed many bins from the streets, to prevent people putting their shit next to them -- so now people just drop it away more randomly :D (I really love this story, have never factchecked it tho)

It's not smelly because people are dressed and are not "off" or on holiday, as you'd be on a festival. But there's some smells from all the waste, especially in hot weather, like we have now. Not a big matter tho, you arent spending that much time on the street - and even if you do (checking out all the young singer songwriters singing on the streets around is pretty cool with some beers/ice cream, dont think its unbearable. Naples is a lot worse, at least it was the last time I was there.

Yeah, Seoul is definitely one of the best places I've ever been to, really cheap and affordable too, topping many other great cities of the world. (I like travelling.)

Thanks for the insight! I'll probably be going next year, either for summer school at Ajou or to watch a finals. This just strengthens my interest level and makes studying in Norway even less interesting...
The Bomber boy
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 11:45:37
June 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#1457
On June 18 2013 20:42 Clefairy wrote:
[image loading]


Play Starcraft. Fuck Bitches Get Money.

She def got INnoVated on.

PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
June 18 2013 11:44 GMT
#1458
On June 18 2013 20:40 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 20:39 Arceus wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:37 Wintex wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:35 Arceus wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:33 Scarecrow wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:32 Arceus wrote:
wtf is this Soul of Legend? LoL spin-off or something

LoL for your phone, basically the epitome of casual gaming


wow It's actually kinda decent, considering that most people have a smartphone/tablet nowadays instead of carrying a NDS

hmmm.. PSVita gogo. come at me for liking Japanese electronics.

nah Im day-one Nintendo fan, still playing some NDS every once in while. I might even just purchase 3DS for the sake of Pokemon XY

Bleh. Nintenyearold! :D

Have fun with your nogaems ^^ + Show Spoiler +
This is the first time i've seen nintenyearold used anywhere outside /v/
The heart's eternal vow
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
June 18 2013 11:45 GMT
#1459
Grandmaster innovation?
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
June 18 2013 11:45 GMT
#1460
That guy arguing about the PvP metagame is either trolling or just plain ignorant, just ignore him please.
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