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Meow-Meow
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany451 Posts
June 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#2881
On June 17 2013 05:06 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 05:03 Meow-Meow wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:59 Schelim wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:55 Meow-Meow wrote:
Why is nobody talking about Huk?

I think one of the biggest story-lines this tournaments is his far exceeding everybody's expectations.

Nobody would have thought he'd take a single map and he destroyed his group with a perfect map-score.

not sure if serious.

he won a group against 3 nobodys (sorry saltthewound) and then got crushed by Violet and viPro.


How is that not far exceeding everybody's expectations?

Every tournament he enters nowadays people say:

"Well, this is his Waterloo. It's Elba and stomach cancer from now on."
But when he then takes maps of diamond and master level players people start to shut up really quickly.

he beat some random amateurs, big fucking deal. he's still been a horrible disappointment for a progamer for the last year or so and continues to be so. i'm not sure why EG thought it was worth it sending him all the way to Sweden to not win anything.

i'm pretty sure i'm being trolled here.


You're not being trolled, we have exactly the same opinion.

My point is that at this point, even beating random amateurs is rather an upset for a player who has been regarded mostly as a joke for the longest time.
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ) Like all techno, it's hard to tell if it's good music played horribly or horrible music played well.
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
June 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#2882
Gumiho
Pandatank
Jaedong
Sting

Tough group..... But JD should make it out I think
Never!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#2883
Other: elfi. Because elfi.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#2884
On June 17 2013 05:07 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 05:05 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 17 2013 05:04 Pandain wrote:
On June 17 2013 05:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:59 Pandain wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:54 Fusilero wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:51 stuchiu wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:49 Heartland wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:47 Abominous wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:44 ninjamyst wrote:
Life and Squirtle got lucky on groups. LOL on Pandatank

As if Life needs luck...


Life to his group: "I'm not in here with you, you're in here with me!"


You want to knock Life out of a group, you need a GSL champion or a combination of Innovation and Parting.

Only the best RTS player ever and the world champion can beat life.


It's ridiculous how favored he is.

The only one who could possibly beat him is Squirtle, and even there Life is still heavily favored.


Taeja ain't doing it.
Gumiho ain't doing it.


And sorry TL writers, other zerg's aren't doing it, not even hyun.


Jaedong


This is true actually, I take it back.

Which is more interesting though is whether him or Squirtle has a better chance.


With the way Squirtle's been playing at this tournament so far, I'd say both Taeja and Jaedong actually have a way better shot at Life than him. Taeja shut down Gumiho so hard that I don't think Gumiho can recover from that in the next few weeks.



Isn't Taeja something like 0-12 in the last 12 games or something versus Life?

I just think Life's ZvT is too good for Taeja's TvZ, I think you really have to be an equal to a zerg to beat him in a TvZ, while in PvZ it can be more variable with allins and the such.


Not just that, but Life also kind of has his number. In the season where Life managed to win it (s4 I believe) he beat him 3-0 in the semis when taeja was heavily favored (iirc). He's owned his soul for a while and taeja hasn't been able to get it back.
dreaming of a sunny day
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#2885
On June 17 2013 05:08 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 05:06 Pandain wrote:
On June 17 2013 05:05 Musicus wrote:
On June 17 2013 05:03 Pandain wrote:
Poll: Most excited player to watch this tournament?

Life (24)
 
32%

other(please elaborate) (12)
 
16%

TLO (10)
 
13%

Stephano (10)
 
13%

Mana (6)
 
8%

Squirtle (5)
 
7%

Dayshi (2)
 
3%

Gumiho (2)
 
3%

Lucifron (2)
 
3%

ToD (2)
 
3%

75 total votes

Your vote: Most excited player to watch this tournament?

(Vote): Life
(Vote): TLO
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Dayshi
(Vote): Gumiho
(Vote): Lucifron
(Vote): Squirtle
(Vote): ToD
(Vote): Mana
(Vote): other(please elaborate)




You are either a sick troll or Jaedong did something horrible to you as a child.


Who is Jaedong?

Wasn't he like some 2nd class player in BroodWar or something?

some Code A level Korean zerg.

actually, he's probably Code S ZvZ and foreigner level ZvP


He had a lot of trouble ZvP for a long time in BW too.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
June 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#2886
Gogo Life!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#2887
On June 17 2013 05:08 Wintex wrote:
Time to watch Jorosar for 2 games adn then the gumigame

Life vs ToD is probably too much of a stomp, I'll watch Dayshi - viOlet and Snute vs Luci
Trius
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine273 Posts
June 16 2013 20:10 GMT
#2888
On June 17 2013 05:07 Pandain wrote:

Isn't Taeja something like 0-12 in the last 12 games or something versus Life?

I just think Life's ZvT is too good for Taeja's TvZ, I think you really have to be an equal to a zerg to beat him in a TvZ, while in PvZ it can be more variable with allins and the such.

They've never met after GSL S4 http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=2747&part=games&vs=1849&league=any&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=7&from_day=4&to_year=2013&to_month=2&to_day=26&action=Update
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 16 2013 20:10 GMT
#2889
PandaTank for president.
I had a good night of sleep.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
June 16 2013 20:10 GMT
#2890
On June 17 2013 05:09 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 05:08 Wintex wrote:
Time to watch Jorosar for 2 games adn then the gumigame

Life vs ToD is probably too much of a stomp, I'll watch Dayshi - viOlet and Snute vs Luci

I want to see if ToD can do that style vs life, or how shittily it goes.
The Bomber boy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#2891
On June 17 2013 05:07 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 05:05 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 17 2013 05:04 Pandain wrote:
On June 17 2013 05:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:59 Pandain wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:54 Fusilero wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:51 stuchiu wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:49 Heartland wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:47 Abominous wrote:
On June 17 2013 04:44 ninjamyst wrote:
Life and Squirtle got lucky on groups. LOL on Pandatank

As if Life needs luck...


Life to his group: "I'm not in here with you, you're in here with me!"


You want to knock Life out of a group, you need a GSL champion or a combination of Innovation and Parting.

Only the best RTS player ever and the world champion can beat life.


It's ridiculous how favored he is.

The only one who could possibly beat him is Squirtle, and even there Life is still heavily favored.


Taeja ain't doing it.
Gumiho ain't doing it.


And sorry TL writers, other zerg's aren't doing it, not even hyun.


Jaedong


This is true actually, I take it back.

Which is more interesting though is whether him or Squirtle has a better chance.


With the way Squirtle's been playing at this tournament so far, I'd say both Taeja and Jaedong actually have a way better shot at Life than him. Taeja shut down Gumiho so hard that I don't think Gumiho can recover from that in the next few weeks.



Isn't Taeja something like 0-12 in the last 12 games or something versus Life?

I just think Life's ZvT is too good for Taeja's TvZ, I think you really have to be an equal to a zerg to beat him in a TvZ, while in PvZ it can be more variable with allins and the such.


Well, all of those games have been in WoL where Taeja was having problems with zerg towards the end which is when they played all these games. Life's TvZ is arguably the best in the world but Taeja is actually capable of playing at a level close to Innovation. He's got sick multitasking and micro, his macro is amazing aside from his standard midgame 1k mineral float and I still think TvZ is slightly terran favored right now. Squirtle has just not been impressing me at all at this DH sadly and the way Life easily beat HerO in RSL who in my opinion is a far better PvZer (granted HerO played like he was drunk), I don't have high hopes for Squirtle should he meet Life.
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arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
June 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#2892
any TLO game on any stream ?
love esports - hate homophobia
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#2893
Oboy, Wax casting elfi.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 20:12:33
June 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#2894
On June 17 2013 05:10 Trius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 05:07 Pandain wrote:

Isn't Taeja something like 0-12 in the last 12 games or something versus Life?

I just think Life's ZvT is too good for Taeja's TvZ, I think you really have to be an equal to a zerg to beat him in a TvZ, while in PvZ it can be more variable with allins and the such.

They've never met after GSL S4 http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=2747&part=games&vs=1849&league=any&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=7&from_day=4&to_year=2013&to_month=2&to_day=26&action=Update

they played at mlg http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1849&part=games&vs=2747&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=8&from_day=9&to_year=2013&to_month=2&to_day=13&action=Update
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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#2895
On June 17 2013 05:10 Trius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 05:07 Pandain wrote:

Isn't Taeja something like 0-12 in the last 12 games or something versus Life?

I just think Life's ZvT is too good for Taeja's TvZ, I think you really have to be an equal to a zerg to beat him in a TvZ, while in PvZ it can be more variable with allins and the such.

They've never met after GSL S4 http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=2747&part=games&vs=1849&league=any&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=7&from_day=4&to_year=2013&to_month=2&to_day=26&action=Update


Liquipedia says otherwise

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_4/Code_S
dreaming of a sunny day
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 20:12:17
June 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#2896
So except for Dreamhack main stream. What are the other main english streams? Or are there none? With dual casters.
I had a good night of sleep.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
June 16 2013 20:12 GMT
#2897
So i'm a little bit confused with all theses streams, which one cast the next Jaedong games? Sorry if it's obvious but from my research I didnt find anything.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
June 16 2013 20:12 GMT
#2898
On June 17 2013 05:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Oboy, Wax casting elfi.

Fuck I dont want to miss this.
The Bomber boy
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 16 2013 20:12 GMT
#2899
On June 17 2013 05:09 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2013 05:08 Wintex wrote:
Time to watch Jorosar for 2 games adn then the gumigame

Life vs ToD is probably too much of a stomp, I'll watch Dayshi - viOlet and Snute vs Luci


I think honestly the most excitinged players to watch are Dayshi, Jaedong, and ToD.

TLO is also exciting, but he's been exciting for the past three months so the excitement has been leveling down.



Dayshi is on such a roll, if he does well this tournament and advances past this, we could be seeing the start of the next top foreigner along with Naniwa and Stephano.


Jaedong it's always interesting to see how he develops.

And ToD is a miracle story of sorts, becoming more heavily involved of casting and yet despite what you would think, playing better than he ever has before.

packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 16 2013 20:12 GMT
#2900
On June 17 2013 05:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Oboy, Wax casting elfi.


dunno who wax is, but if its waxangel I'd watch that.
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