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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/shiroiusagi/wcs/wcs_na_lr.jpg) Tuesday, Jun 11 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Liquipedia · Stream · VODs![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png)  MajOr vs.  KiLLeRViBE vs.  Bails![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bv8Kw.png) + Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] ++ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l5YZ8.png) + Show Spoiler +
MajOr vs. KiLLeR Game 1
MajOr vs. KiLLeR Game 2
MajOr vs. KiLLeR Game 3
ViBe vs. Bails Game 1
ViBe vs. Bails Game 2
ViBe vs. Bails Game 3
Winners' Match Game 1
Winners' Match Game 2
Winners' Match Game 3
Losers' Match Game 1
Losers' Match Game 2
Losers' Match Game 3
Final Match Game 1
Final Match Game 2
Final Match Game 3
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3wcCS.png) + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [MajOr vs. KiLLeR] +The first two polls have the wrong matchup listed, sorry. Poll: Recommend MajOr vs. Bails Game 1?No (3) 100% Yes (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs. Bails Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend MajOr vs. Bails Game 2?Yes (2) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs. Bails Game 2? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend MajOr vs KiLLeR Game 3?Yes (2) 67% If you have time (1) 33% No (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs KiLLeR Game 3? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 1?No (1) 100% Yes (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 2?Yes (1) 50% No (1) 50% If you have time (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 2? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 3?Yes (1) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 3? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winner's Match Game 1?Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 0 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winner's Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winner's Match Game 2?Yes (3) 75% If you have time (1) 25% No (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winner's Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Winner's Match Game 3?Yes (2) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winner's Match Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Loser's Match Game 1?Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 0 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser's Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Loser's Match Game 2?Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 0 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser's Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Loser's Match Game 3?If you have time (1) 100% Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser's Match Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?Yes (2) 67% If you have time (1) 33% No (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?Yes (5) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?If you have time (3) 75% Yes (1) 25% No (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Head?MajOr & KiLLeR (13) 57% MajOr & ViBE (5) 22% ViBE & KiLLeR (3) 13% MajOr & Bails (2) 9% Bails & ViBE (0) 0% Bails & KiLLeR (0) 0% 23 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): MajOr & Bails
(Vote): MajOr & ViBE
(Vote): MajOr & KiLLeR
(Vote): Bails & ViBE
(Vote): Bails & KiLLeR
(Vote): ViBE & KiLLeR
Poll: Heart?MajOr & KiLLeR (7) 37% MajOr & ViBE (5) 26% Bails & KiLLeR (4) 21% ViBE & KiLLeR (2) 11% Bails & ViBE (1) 5% MajOr & Bails (0) 0% 19 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): MajOr & Bails
(Vote): MajOr & ViBE
(Vote): MajOr & KiLLeR
(Vote): Bails & ViBE
(Vote): Bails & KiLLeR
(Vote): ViBE & KiLLeR
Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
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MajOr 61.03% 32.39% 28.64% 21.15% 17.82%
KiLLeR 57.44% 29.91% 27.53% 22.50% 20.06%
ViBE 42.00% 19.44% 22.56% 28.08% 29.93%
bails 39.53% 18.26% 21.27% 28.27% 32.20%
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Canada8157 Posts
MajOr and ViBe, MajOr has had a long time to practice with T8 and ViBe is always good!
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United States97276 Posts
I picked MajOr and KiLLeR. Hopefully that works out. Come on aligulac
also thanks for the threads juicyjames. i've been too busy to get up these AM threads this week :D
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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Is there anything you won't do for the community, juicyjames? :D
Daily/weekly summaries, news posts and now even live report threads...thanks anyway.
On June 12 2013 06:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I picked MajOr and KiLLeR. Hopefully that works out. Come on aligulac
also thanks for the threads juicyjames. i've been too busy to get up these AM threads this week :D
Yeah, I also picked these two, that means you can't reduce the point gap in our Liquibet rankings, bwahaha.
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United States97276 Posts
On June 12 2013 07:10 StarVe wrote:Is there anything you won't do for the community, juicyjames? :D Daily/weekly summaries, news posts and now even live report threads...thanks anyway. Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 06:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I picked MajOr and KiLLeR. Hopefully that works out. Come on aligulac
also thanks for the threads juicyjames. i've been too busy to get up these AM threads this week :D Yeah, I also picked these two, that means you can't reduce the point gap in our Liquibet rankings, bwahaha.
The liquibet points on the rankings page and the your stats page dont line up. liquibets are a lie
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On June 12 2013 07:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 07:10 StarVe wrote:Is there anything you won't do for the community, juicyjames? :D Daily/weekly summaries, news posts and now even live report threads...thanks anyway. On June 12 2013 06:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I picked MajOr and KiLLeR. Hopefully that works out. Come on aligulac
also thanks for the threads juicyjames. i've been too busy to get up these AM threads this week :D Yeah, I also picked these two, that means you can't reduce the point gap in our Liquibet rankings, bwahaha. The liquibet points on the rankings page and the your stats page dont line up. liquibets are a lie
Doesn't matter, still winning. :p BW liquibets are the real liquibets anyway. 
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend MajOr vs. Bails Game 1?No (3) 100% Yes (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs. Bails Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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it's always the same with these two, axeltoss is like a clueless student and axslav is the teacher that explains every damn thing to him. most of the time it's funny though. :D
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend MajOr vs. Bails Game 2?Yes (2) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs. Bails Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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On June 12 2013 07:37 Cokefreak wrote:
Major macro o_O
killer macro 
@Juicy:it's killer not bails :O
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fire this observer.
everytime something is about to happen he moves the camera away....
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Killer's only chance is another timing/all-in tbh.
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On June 12 2013 07:40 Undead1993 wrote:killer macro @Juicy:it's killer not bails :O
Ah, shit. I pre-made all the recommended game polls, and the original OP had different matchups compared to what is being broadcasted. I guess I'll go remake some real quick.
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On June 12 2013 07:42 juicyjames wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 07:40 Undead1993 wrote:On June 12 2013 07:37 Cokefreak wrote:
Major macro o_O killer macro @Juicy:it's killer not bails :O Ah, shit. I pre-made all the recommended game polls, and the original OP had different matchups compared to what is being broadcasted. I guess I'll go remake some real quick.
you are the best! ty 
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I think this could be the smallest LR ever. Anyone know what the smallest one was for a tournament this size?
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United States33392 Posts
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On June 12 2013 07:50 Waxangel wrote:
shfit queue rally T_T
team 8th does not approve
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On June 12 2013 07:48 408xParadox wrote:
I think this could be the smallest LR ever. Anyone know what the smallest one was for a tournament this size?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=345688
Probably this one :D
Most of the thread is people posting how they aren't/weren't watching.
Major's gonna lose. Killer once again showing he's one of the more proficient players from the Americas. For certain one of the most clutch players.
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend MajOr vs KiLLeR Game 3?Yes (2) 67% If you have time (1) 33% No (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend MajOr vs KiLLeR Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Horrible mistakes mixed with some genius moves by Major. :-/
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United States97276 Posts
Major will bounce back and get 2nd
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Mmm... did Major really improve in Korea?
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On June 12 2013 08:02 RHoudini wrote:
Mmm... did Major really improve in Korea?
At least there's missing quite a bit for Proleague level judging from these games. He ain't no Pigbaby.
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On June 12 2013 07:48 408xParadox wrote:
I think this could be the smallest LR ever. Anyone know what the smallest one was for a tournament this size?
Cause everyone wanted to show support for a true region locked WCS....
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 1?No (1) 100% Yes (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
WP gateway attacks have gone back into vogue on the ladder.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 12 2013 08:25 juicyjames wrote:What map was that on? I wanna say: Bel'Shir Vestige
yes.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Oh wow, Vibe could have won that if he focused the observer with his spore.
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 2?Yes (1) 50% No (1) 50% If you have time (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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On June 12 2013 08:41 Bagration wrote:
I hate swarmhost play :\
But I love it when swarmhost player gets overrun
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 3?Yes (1) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend ViBE vs Bails Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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Where did Bails' phoenix go? Did he throw does away in the engagement?
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On June 12 2013 08:57 Bagration wrote:
Where did Bails' phoenix go? Did he throw does away in the engagement?
It was hard to tell but I think he lost them in the main to muta while he was looking at the third.
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I thought Major was on KeSPA or whatever.
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On June 12 2013 09:01 sparklyresidue wrote:
I thought Major was on KeSPA or whatever.
Yup Team 8. The Kespa-ist of the Kespa
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yeah major is kespa not that it matters.
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend Winner's Match Game 1?Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 0 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winner's Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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These battles are overhyped by the casters.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Swarmhosts vs Swarmhosts. This will be disgusting.
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Really well played by Vibe. Glad to see him in Premier League.
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend Winner's Match Game 2?Yes (3) 75% If you have time (1) 25% No (0) 0% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winner's Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Poll: Recommend Winner's Match Game 3?Yes (2) 100% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winner's Match Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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What a fun game to watch! Thank God every ZvZ isn't muta wars anymore =)
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tuned in, saw zvz, thought "that must be winners match"
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend Loser's Match Game 1?Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 0 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser's Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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Did Bails never get thermal lance or something? Seemed so odd positioning.
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MLGOBSA is a player in plat league :O
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend Loser's Match Game 2?Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% If you have time (0) 0% 0 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser's Match Game 2? (Vote): Yes
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Major's play today has been disappointing. I thought with the Kespa training, he would have advanced through this group easily
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On June 12 2013 10:17 Bagration wrote:
Major's play today has been disappointing. I thought with the Kespa training, he would have advanced through this group easily
Team 8 probably has the worst training environment out of all the Kespa teams, It's a good place to be but It's not Woongjin or anything.
But yes I'm also disappointed.
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im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me
Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..
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On June 12 2013 10:20 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:17 Bagration wrote:
Major's play today has been disappointing. I thought with the Kespa training, he would have advanced through this group easily Team 8 probably has the worst training environment out of all the Kespa teams, It's a good place to be but It's not Woongjin or anything. But yes I'm also disappointed.
Who says being on a KR team guarantees good training? Wasn't it Huk who said that they often outright refused to practice with him?
If anything I see Kespa teams being even less inclusive.
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On June 12 2013 10:23 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:20 Dodgin wrote:On June 12 2013 10:17 Bagration wrote:
Major's play today has been disappointing. I thought with the Kespa training, he would have advanced through this group easily Team 8 probably has the worst training environment out of all the Kespa teams, It's a good place to be but It's not Woongjin or anything. But yes I'm also disappointed. Who says being on a KR team guarantees good training? Wasn't it Huk who said that they often outright refused to practice with him? If anything I see Kespa teams being even less inclusive.
I wouldn't compare Kespa teams in this day and age to a "eSF"(before eSF existed) team back in 2011 when there was almost no structure in the scene. You might still be right but HuK's situation was different because he wasn't directly on the team, just staying there as a partner.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 12 2013 10:23 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:20 Dodgin wrote:On June 12 2013 10:17 Bagration wrote:
Major's play today has been disappointing. I thought with the Kespa training, he would have advanced through this group easily Team 8 probably has the worst training environment out of all the Kespa teams, It's a good place to be but It's not Woongjin or anything. But yes I'm also disappointed. Who says being on a KR team guarantees good training? Wasn't it Huk who said that they often outright refused to practice with him? If anything I see Kespa teams being even less inclusive.
They seem to really like Major.
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On June 12 2013 10:23 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:20 Dodgin wrote:On June 12 2013 10:17 Bagration wrote:
Major's play today has been disappointing. I thought with the Kespa training, he would have advanced through this group easily Team 8 probably has the worst training environment out of all the Kespa teams, It's a good place to be but It's not Woongjin or anything. But yes I'm also disappointed. Who says being on a KR team guarantees good training? Wasn't it Huk who said that they often outright refused to practice with him? If anything I see Kespa teams being even less inclusive.
I doubt that the rest of the T8 players are intentionally excluding Major, since it appears Major has a pretty good relation with the rest of the team. Of course, there will probably be a bit of isolation despite the best of intentions due to language and cultural differences.
Then again, I remember hearing that training in Korea will usually result in a decrease of skill first, due to unlearning bad habits and relearning more efficient ways to do basic things.
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On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me
Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..
Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as even with Killer.
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend Loser's Match Game 3?If you have time (1) 100% Yes (0) 0% No (0) 0% 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser's Match Game 3? (Vote): Yes
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On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me
Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..
Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer.
Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?
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On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me
Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..
Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer. Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?
I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group
And I don't know why they picked him up, but they're the worst kespa team and they still haven't played him, maybe they wanted another person to practice against.
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On June 12 2013 10:36 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me
Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..
Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer. Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up? I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group
And Killer has always been good in the foreign scene, a real upset factory. It's just that he has close to no exposure, and he doesn't attend many live events. That's a little bit the same scene for Moonglade, those two performs well everytime we see them, it's just that we don't see them much.
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On June 12 2013 10:36 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me
Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..
Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer. Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up? I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group
I don't get it, it seems like you are putting him in a group with low-tier foreigners, doesn't that also imply you consider him low tier? :p
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me
Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..
Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as even with Killer.
It's a growing process. Unless you are super talented, most players will spend at leas an year or 2 just grinding practice games in team houses and then they get sent out. They spend another year or so just getting the mind control needed to play at their best in the booth.
There is no secret way to get extremely good at the game extremely fast. Unless you have a superior understanding of the game far beyond everyone else, you're going to have to keep grinding out games over and over and over again until you reach that level.
Dreams may betray you, but hard work betrays no one. So long as Major keeps putting in time and effort into practice, he will always be a foreigner to look out for.
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On June 12 2013 10:40 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:36 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me
Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..
Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer. Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up? I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group I don't get it, it seems like you are putting him in a group with low-tier foreigners, doesn't that also imply you consider him low tier? :p
First guy said, why does he lose to mid/low tier foreigners, and I'm saying he's in the same group. I guess you want me to say he's not high tier? Same thing.
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Lots of people have been saying Major is incredibly good and talented, for years. Not that my thoughts matter, but after a couple years he has never impressed me in the slightest. I'm not saying he's not good, but I just don't see what other people see.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Also roach bane is such an abusively awesome build.
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For this kind of online tournament, can players have another player watch from behind to remind him stuff? For example, remind him a red dot on minimap he doesn't notice, possible drops.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?Yes (2) 67% If you have time (1) 33% No (0) 0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes
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On June 12 2013 10:52 edgeOut wrote:
For this kind of online tournament, can players have another player watch from behind to remind him stuff? For example, remind him a red dot on minimap he doesn't notice, possible drops.
Yes, but there is honor and all that. It's marginal benefit, since someone talking to you could be distracting, and if you are caught, it could really kill a career.
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drone scout op vs cc first
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O shit 1/1 speed bane muta timing O_O
countered...by being on the map
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killer is so terrible, he gets supplystuck, builds 4 overlord, 1 min later supply stuck 4 overlords, repeat
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Cool game, constant action
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I don't think I've ever seen randomly placed widow mines kill so many free units.
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Major is really really good, jeez. Keeping his macro going while attacking everywhere at once is so hard but he's doing it without missing a beat. Training in Korea looks like it's paid off.
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juicyjames
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Well congrats Major and Vibe!
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Nice game, it was fun seing major multitasking in action
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I feel bad for Killer (and goswer from yesterday) both are premier league players and could have easily made it through any other group
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Looks like MajOr learned sth from his best buds Baby.
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op spoilers need to be fixed. says major won 2-0 but then says killer won game 1
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juicyjames
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On June 12 2013 11:21 zephiK wrote:
op spoilers need to be fixed. says major won 2-0 but then says killer won game 1
Fixed.
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On June 12 2013 11:20 edgeOut wrote:
Looks like MajOr learned sth from his best buds Baby.
taeyang too gosu for me to copy his play :3
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On June 12 2013 11:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I feel bad for Killer (and goswer from yesterday) both are premier league players and could have easily made it through any other group
you joking right? todays group was one of the easier groups.
also anyone knows if idra is playing tomorrow or forfeiting again?
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On June 12 2013 11:27 teddyoojo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 11:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I feel bad for Killer (and goswer from yesterday) both are premier league players and could have easily made it through any other group you joking right? todays group was one of the easier groups. also anyone knows if idra is playing tomorrow or forfeiting again?
Probably forfeiting. He retired right?
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On June 12 2013 11:30 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 11:27 teddyoojo wrote:On June 12 2013 11:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I feel bad for Killer (and goswer from yesterday) both are premier league players and could have easily made it through any other group you joking right? todays group was one of the easier groups. also anyone knows if idra is playing tomorrow or forfeiting again? Probably forfeiting. He retired right?
currently.
also if he forfeits, shouldnt mlg have known that weeks ago and found a replacement instead of having a 3 player group?
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Major just posted this
i promise i will show better games in premier league
i played really bad and i have lots of spike lags from kr to NA
i will practice alot.
I had forgotten the lag, maybe thats part of the reason he didnt played that well.
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On June 12 2013 11:33 teddyoojo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 11:30 Bagration wrote:On June 12 2013 11:27 teddyoojo wrote:On June 12 2013 11:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I feel bad for Killer (and goswer from yesterday) both are premier league players and could have easily made it through any other group you joking right? todays group was one of the easier groups. also anyone knows if idra is playing tomorrow or forfeiting again? Probably forfeiting. He retired right? currently. also if he forfeits, shouldnt mlg have known that weeks ago and found a replacement instead of having a 3 player group?
Yeah, but it'd be tricky to find a replacement. They'd have to run a qualifier tournament for the spot most ideally, but that takes a lot of work, so let's just give some walk overs. It's not really fair, but alas, hiccups happen.
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lol, so few attentions to AM CL. I'm amazed where are all those people who love to see the American scene?
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Thank God Major went through. Piguuuueee fighting!
How was his HPM?
EDIT: btw no VODs up, yet? I can only find group A
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On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me
Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..
Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as even with Killer.
I couldn't disagree with you more, and neither could the results. MajOr has always been a lot better than KiLLeR. KiLLeR got much better and lessened the gap, and people can now see that he's also a big threat.
I love how KiLLeR rose a few years ago to be a top NA player, but in the past MajOr was known to be far better, and I don't think results will ever put them in the same category.
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On June 12 2013 11:41 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 11:33 teddyoojo wrote:On June 12 2013 11:30 Bagration wrote:On June 12 2013 11:27 teddyoojo wrote:On June 12 2013 11:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I feel bad for Killer (and goswer from yesterday) both are premier league players and could have easily made it through any other group you joking right? todays group was one of the easier groups. also anyone knows if idra is playing tomorrow or forfeiting again? Probably forfeiting. He retired right? currently. also if he forfeits, shouldnt mlg have known that weeks ago and found a replacement instead of having a 3 player group? Yeah, but it'd be tricky to find a replacement. They'd have to run a qualifier tournament for the spot most ideally, but that takes a lot of work, so let's just give some walk overs. It's not really fair, but alas, hiccups happen.
They could have done some sort of wildcard tournament like GSL has done in the past for people eliminated but this time invite like everyone 1 round away from qualifying for challenger since no one falls to Code B from the brackets. That would give you a small tournament of  HyuN,  Elige,  JYP, Moosegills, Zenio, CatZ, hendralisk, and then someone would have to replace miya. That's the first possible solution that comes to my mind. seems kind of stupid to have a free pass group where no one can be eliminated.
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On June 12 2013 11:14 ManicMarine wrote:
Major is really really good, jeez. Keeping his macro going while attacking everywhere at once is so hard but he's doing it without missing a beat. Training in Korea looks like it's paid off.
His always been doing this. His weakness has always been unstable unit control, and from what I've seen Korea hasn't really benefited him significantly in that regard.
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i watched two games of vibe vs bails yesterday, and i gotta say: unbelievably low-level. compared to koreans this looks like a cripple fight
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Worst possible outcome for Clarity...
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