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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 10 2013 11:18 GMT
#481
On June 10 2013 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:13 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m interested in this army composition. What would you need against Ghost+Viking+Marauder? Would mass zealots cut it against the ghosts, or mass stalkers. I suppose stalker vs ghost and zealot vs marauder is the idea?


No, only carrier/HT beats it


Carrier ht loses horribly against it. Ghosts alone counter hts not to mentions the few marauders could stim forward and kill more templars. Carrier vs viking... yeah not so cool.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
June 10 2013 11:18 GMT
#482
On June 10 2013 20:17 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:10 Taosu wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:07 Caihead wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 10 2013 19:59 StimMarine wrote:
Please get better casters.


Hello I'm from KeSPA; due to your feedback we have decided to fire our english casters and hire new ones based on what casters you would like to see cast these games


Idra would probably win the popularity contest.

I would love to see IdrA plus Hübner

Hübner really?!


I fucking love Hubner. What a hero.

But seriously, who are the probable casters for next season?
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 10 2013 11:18 GMT
#483
On June 10 2013 20:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Aw, HerO is not the king of Sindorim anymore.


HerO forever king of Sindorim
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 10 2013 11:18 GMT
#484
On June 10 2013 20:01 Keeemy wrote:
HerO completely owned Symbol in WCS so he should be able to beat Hydra no problem.

I would say that this is an overstatement.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 11:19:58
June 10 2013 11:19 GMT
#485
On June 10 2013 20:18 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:13 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m interested in this army composition. What would you need against Ghost+Viking+Marauder? Would mass zealots cut it against the ghosts, or mass stalkers. I suppose stalker vs ghost and zealot vs marauder is the idea?


No, only carrier/HT beats it


Carrier ht loses horribly against it. Ghosts alone counter hts not to mentions the few marauders could stim forward and kill more templars. Carrier vs viking... yeah not so cool.


It actually does work if you manage to mass carriers and use templar to zone vikings/storm them

But I suppose tempest is better if you have the time to super slow push
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
June 10 2013 11:19 GMT
#486
Lawl Jangbang.
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
June 10 2013 11:19 GMT
#487
SNM would be a better commentator if he said jangbang more often
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
June 10 2013 11:19 GMT
#488
On June 10 2013 20:18 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:16 Scarecrow wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:15 Bam Lee wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:13 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m interested in this army composition. What would you need against Ghost+Viking+Marauder? Would mass zealots cut it against the ghosts, or mass stalkers. I suppose stalker vs ghost and zealot vs marauder is the idea?


Zealots melt against ghosts. You probably need good templar micro and maybe some carriers/tempest to siege

Maybe trading away your collossi and replacing it with more templar/gateway/immortal and leaving him with a heap of supply in vikings.

Are immortals ok versus mass ghosts ?

Absolutely, go for it. I'm pretty sure immortals and archons hard counter ghosts.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
June 10 2013 11:20 GMT
#489
What..? I thought hero had 16 wins from sindorim :0
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 10 2013 11:20 GMT
#490
On June 10 2013 20:18 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:17 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:10 Taosu wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:07 Caihead wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 10 2013 19:59 StimMarine wrote:
Please get better casters.


Hello I'm from KeSPA; due to your feedback we have decided to fire our english casters and hire new ones based on what casters you would like to see cast these games


Idra would probably win the popularity contest.

I would love to see IdrA plus Hübner

Hübner really?!


I fucking love Hubner. What a hero.

But seriously, who are the probable casters for next season?


We don't know. SNM is very unlikely, Whiplash might stick around - there'll probably be another caster coming in for there to be a duo; but will it be a "popular" caster or someone KeSPA/OGN/SPOTV can dig up who knows a lot about the scene? No idea, I don't think it's really been decided yet.
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ClairvoyanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States758 Posts
June 10 2013 11:20 GMT
#491
.... I fail traded oz for jyp. ._______________.

and taeja on anti
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 10 2013 11:20 GMT
#492
On June 10 2013 20:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:18 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:13 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m interested in this army composition. What would you need against Ghost+Viking+Marauder? Would mass zealots cut it against the ghosts, or mass stalkers. I suppose stalker vs ghost and zealot vs marauder is the idea?


No, only carrier/HT beats it


Carrier ht loses horribly against it. Ghosts alone counter hts not to mentions the few marauders could stim forward and kill more templars. Carrier vs viking... yeah not so cool.


It actually does work if you manage to mass carriers and use templar to zone vikings/storm them

But I suppose tempest is better


Doomed to defend forever? Once you give up defence vs ghost viking the named composition will eat emp blankets on the whole screen^^. 24 ghost can put down 48emp ideally
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 11:21:05
June 10 2013 11:20 GMT
#493
What about mass range phoenix/chargelot? Lol
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 10 2013 11:22 GMT
#494
On June 10 2013 20:19 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:18 samurai80 wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:16 Scarecrow wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:15 Bam Lee wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:13 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m interested in this army composition. What would you need against Ghost+Viking+Marauder? Would mass zealots cut it against the ghosts, or mass stalkers. I suppose stalker vs ghost and zealot vs marauder is the idea?


Zealots melt against ghosts. You probably need good templar micro and maybe some carriers/tempest to siege

Maybe trading away your collossi and replacing it with more templar/gateway/immortal and leaving him with a heap of supply in vikings.

Are immortals ok versus mass ghosts ?

Absolutely, go for it. I'm pretty sure immortals and archons hard counter ghosts.


I actually think mass immortal mass stalker and few templars could work. People tend to underestimate the damage output and ghosts are not good at killing stalkers and the few marauders you have are probably not enough
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 10 2013 11:22 GMT
#495
Looks like Flash has the "Most wins" award in the bag
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 11:23:40
June 10 2013 11:22 GMT
#496
On June 10 2013 20:18 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:16 Scarecrow wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:15 Bam Lee wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:13 Daswollvieh wrote:
I´m interested in this army composition. What would you need against Ghost+Viking+Marauder? Would mass zealots cut it against the ghosts, or mass stalkers. I suppose stalker vs ghost and zealot vs marauder is the idea?


Zealots melt against ghosts. You probably need good templar micro and maybe some carriers/tempest to siege

Maybe trading away your collossi and replacing it with more templar/gateway/immortal and leaving him with a heap of supply in vikings.

Are immortals ok versus mass ghosts ?

If you spread them and the templar out and get a concave with a storm or two it can go ok. If you sit in one big ball then yes they'll be terrible. Still immortals are tanky and with +3 attack do really well vs marauders whilst the zealots tank. Collossus do fuck all when they've got 14+ upgraded vikings, no marines and your army just melts if you're too stalker heavy.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
June 10 2013 11:23 GMT
#497
1. The protoss community develops a perfect counter against mass ghosts.
2. Blizzard nerfs ghost the next day.
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
June 10 2013 11:23 GMT
#498
best should be tempest/ht some colossus and stalkers, tempest for zoning ghosts and ht for zoning vikings. but just theorycrafting about it seems really hard, let alone playing it. I think PartinG vs Flash on Daybreak in the group of death showed this particular scenario.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 11:26:14
June 10 2013 11:24 GMT
#499
Mass high templar spread out over a large area with cannon support and harass can beat it if you play better. Basically, this involves whittling your opponent down with storms and harass until he gives in and attacks you. Then, you spam storms from different directions while you retreat to cannons. You'll still eventually lose the final fight, but you'll have more economy and and easier time remaxing. See madbull vs Byun from GSTL.

Templar Colossi Tempest can also beat it on a map where you can split it like Daybreak. See Hasuobs vs Thorzain on Daybreak from WCS EU Premier League.

Edit: Everything else is horrible. Mass stalker is horrible. Mass immortal is horrible.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 10 2013 11:25 GMT
#500
On June 10 2013 20:24 monk wrote:
Mass high templar spread out over a large area with cannon support and harass can beat it if you play better. See madbull vs Byun from GSTL.

Templar Colossi Tempest can also beat it on a map where you can split it like Daybreak. See Hasuobs vs Thorzain on Daybreak from WCS EU Premier League.


MADGOD cannot be compared to normal protoss players
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