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YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
June 10 2013 11:01 GMT
#441
On June 10 2013 19:59 StimMarine wrote:
Please get better casters.

This has been discussed all season and nothing's going to change. Better learn to live with it or watch the korean stream.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
June 10 2013 11:02 GMT
#442
On June 10 2013 19:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Amazing how people are still surprised that Ghost/viking murders protoss


Yeah seriously, if you can afford to mass them and have okay ghost control then it's ridiculously good.
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 10 2013 11:02 GMT
#443
On June 10 2013 20:00 juicyjames wrote:
[image loading] (P)herO (3-3vT) <Whirlwind> [image loading] (T)TaeJa (1-0vP)


Poll: Recommend herO vs TaeJa?

Yes (20)
 
77%

No (4)
 
15%

If you have time (2)
 
8%

26 total votes

Your vote: Recommend herO vs TaeJa?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8704 Posts
June 10 2013 11:02 GMT
#444
On June 10 2013 20:01 Garnet wrote:
Those archons didn't do enough damage. At all.


With so many ghosts those archons were not meant to last.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
June 10 2013 11:03 GMT
#445
On June 10 2013 20:00 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 19:59 dainbramage wrote:
"terran can't fight protoss lategame"


Yeah mass ghosts/viking mixed with some marauders kills pretty much every standard protoss death ball.

One of the biggest problems I find is it's really difficult for a toss to keep obs up vs a ton of vikings and if you've got enough cloaked ghosts they just rape everything.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
June 10 2013 11:03 GMT
#446
i dunno why you would ever ever go archons in a situation like this.....

i know stalkers are fucking terrible but u pretty much mass stalkers against ghost/viking, and just pray your opponent doesnt have enough money for 30 marauders after he spent all his money on ghosts..

i guess hero hasnt played much wol or that fact that taeja had a really safe 4th going (remember entombed valley?) but he clearly didnt have a clue what to do in that situation...

4k minerals and 20 gates? build cannons
1k minerals and like what 12 gateways? yeah dont bother
the throws never bothered me anyway
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
June 10 2013 11:03 GMT
#447
On June 10 2013 19:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Amazing how people are still surprised that Ghost/viking murders protoss


Its pretty much because people generally don't build enough Ghosts. There was a brief period in WoL where a lot of Terrans suddenly realised "hey, Ghosts are good" and then they got nerfed for being too good and it was back to "Ghosts are trash, just build a couple".
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 10 2013 11:04 GMT
#448
On June 10 2013 19:59 StimMarine wrote:
Please get better casters.


Hello I'm from KeSPA; due to your feedback we have decided to fire our english casters and hire new ones based on what casters you would like to see cast these games
AdministratorBreak the chains
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 10 2013 11:04 GMT
#449
On June 10 2013 20:03 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:00 Doublemint wrote:
On June 10 2013 19:59 dainbramage wrote:
"terran can't fight protoss lategame"


Yeah mass ghosts/viking mixed with some marauders kills pretty much every standard protoss death ball.

One of the biggest problems I find is it's really difficult for a toss to keep obs up vs a ton of vikings and if you've got enough cloaked ghosts they just rape everything.


Yeah, it's so incredibly hard to engage that army correctly. You really have to flank with templar and hope they don't get sniped.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
June 10 2013 11:06 GMT
#450
On June 10 2013 20:03 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:00 Doublemint wrote:
On June 10 2013 19:59 dainbramage wrote:
"terran can't fight protoss lategame"


Yeah mass ghosts/viking mixed with some marauders kills pretty much every standard protoss death ball.

One of the biggest problems I find is it's really difficult for a toss to keep obs up vs a ton of vikings and if you've got enough cloaked ghosts they just rape everything.

thats why hero built cannons but he decided hey lets try to kill taeja before i can get enough of a bank going

then again i have taeja on my fpl so why am i complaining...
the throws never bothered me anyway
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
June 10 2013 11:06 GMT
#451
On June 10 2013 20:03 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 19:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Amazing how people are still surprised that Ghost/viking murders protoss


Its pretty much because people generally don't build enough Ghosts. There was a brief period in WoL where a lot of Terrans suddenly realised "hey, Ghosts are good" and then they got nerfed for being too good and it was back to "Ghosts are trash, just build a couple".

Mvp made them realize ghosts were good. I remember where he turtled with mass ghosts on either lost or shattered temple and was almost unkillable against the zerg death army.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 10 2013 11:07 GMT
#452
On June 10 2013 20:04 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 19:59 StimMarine wrote:
Please get better casters.


Hello I'm from KeSPA; due to your feedback we have decided to fire our english casters and hire new ones based on what casters you would like to see cast these games


Idra would probably win the popularity contest.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
June 10 2013 11:08 GMT
#453
On June 10 2013 20:06 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:03 -Celestial- wrote:
On June 10 2013 19:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Amazing how people are still surprised that Ghost/viking murders protoss


Its pretty much because people generally don't build enough Ghosts. There was a brief period in WoL where a lot of Terrans suddenly realised "hey, Ghosts are good" and then they got nerfed for being too good and it was back to "Ghosts are trash, just build a couple".

Mvp made them realize ghosts were good. I remember where he turtled with mass ghosts on either lost or shattered temple and was almost unkillable against the zerg death army.

Wasn't it metalopolis? It was definitely after the lost temple era, shattered might have still been around.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
June 10 2013 11:08 GMT
#454
I imagine they have a contract with these casters for this season which is why they haven't been released yet. Please tell me there is no chance that they will be doing next season. I'd watch SOOO much more if literally anyone else casted it.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
June 10 2013 11:09 GMT
#455
On June 10 2013 20:08 Dinotramp wrote:
I imagine they have a contract with these casters for this season which is why they haven't been released yet. Please tell me there is no chance that they will be doing next season. I'd watch SOOO much more if literally anyone else casted it.

moletrap/djwheat
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 11:11:40
June 10 2013 11:10 GMT
#456
On June 10 2013 20:08 Dinotramp wrote:
I imagine they have a contract with these casters for this season which is why they haven't been released yet. Please tell me there is no chance that they will be doing next season. I'd watch SOOO much more if literally anyone else casted it.

The contract was just for one season, SNM's going back to finish college.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 10 2013 11:10 GMT
#457
On June 10 2013 20:08 Dinotramp wrote:
I imagine they have a contract with these casters for this season which is why they haven't been released yet. Please tell me there is no chance that they will be doing next season. I'd watch SOOO much more if literally anyone else casted it.


That is most likely the case. Either way we know nothing of who will be casting next season.
AdministratorBreak the chains
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
June 10 2013 11:10 GMT
#458
Well if u want to see how to win TvP you can pretty much look at any terran... Especially those with high HPM.
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
June 10 2013 11:10 GMT
#459
On June 10 2013 20:08 dainbramage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:06 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:03 -Celestial- wrote:
On June 10 2013 19:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Amazing how people are still surprised that Ghost/viking murders protoss


Its pretty much because people generally don't build enough Ghosts. There was a brief period in WoL where a lot of Terrans suddenly realised "hey, Ghosts are good" and then they got nerfed for being too good and it was back to "Ghosts are trash, just build a couple".

Mvp made them realize ghosts were good. I remember where he turtled with mass ghosts on either lost or shattered temple and was almost unkillable against the zerg death army.

Wasn't it metalopolis? It was definitely after the lost temple era, shattered might have still been around.

That might be a different game, but it's so long ago I don't even remember the opponent. I definitely remember one on Temple. He turtled in his main for a long time before I think he died to mass speedling.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 10 2013 11:10 GMT
#460
On June 10 2013 20:08 dainbramage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 20:06 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 10 2013 20:03 -Celestial- wrote:
On June 10 2013 19:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Amazing how people are still surprised that Ghost/viking murders protoss


Its pretty much because people generally don't build enough Ghosts. There was a brief period in WoL where a lot of Terrans suddenly realised "hey, Ghosts are good" and then they got nerfed for being too good and it was back to "Ghosts are trash, just build a couple".

Mvp made them realize ghosts were good. I remember where he turtled with mass ghosts on either lost or shattered temple and was almost unkillable against the zerg death army.

Wasn't it metalopolis? It was definitely after the lost temple era, shattered might have still been around.


I'm fairly certain Shattered Temple was in the Blizzcon map pool in 2011 and the game on Metropolis vs Julyzerg was before Blizzcon. The most famous game is probably the last game of the blizzcon finals where Nestea lost his entire army to ghost/viking.
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