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[WCS EU] Group G Challenger Season 1 2013

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ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 19:54:50
June 04 2013 16:32 GMT
#1
[WCS EU] Group G Challenger Season 1 2013


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Tuesday, Jun 04 4:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Europe/Challenger
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TL Preview: Up to the Challenge?



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Casters: Kaelaris & (Z)TargA

[image loading] WCS Europe



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[image loading] (T)ThorZaIN vs. [image loading] (Z)FireCake
Starting map: Newkirk Precinct

[image loading] (P)MaNa vs. [image loading] (P)Bischu
Starting map: Bel'Shir Vestige



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+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] +
+ Show Spoiler [ThorZaIN vs. FireCake] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(T)ThorZaIN < Newkirk Precinct > (Z)FireCake

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(T)ThorZaIN < Akilon Wastes > (Z)FireCake

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(T)ThorZaIN <> (Z)FireCake
ThorZaIN wins 2-0!

+ Show Spoiler [MaNa vs. Bischu] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(P)MaNa < Bel'Shir Vestige > (P)Bischu

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(P)MaNa < Whirlwind > (P)Bischu

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(P)MaNa < Akilon Wastes > (P)Bischu
MaNa wins 2-1!

+ Show Spoiler [Winners' Match] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(T)ThorZaIN < Akilon Wastes > (P)MaNa

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(T)ThorZaIN < Whirlwind > (P)MaNa

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(T)ThorZaIN < Newkirk Precinct > (P)MaNa
ThorZaIN wins 2-1 and advances to the Premier League!

+ Show Spoiler [Losers' Match] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(Z)FireCake < Neo Planet S > (P)Bischu

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(Z)FireCake < Star Station > (P)Bischu

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(Z)FireCake < Akilon Wastes > (P)Bischu
FireCake wins 2-1!

+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
(P)MaNa < Daybreak > (Z)FireCake

+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
(P)MaNa < Akilon Wastes > (Z)FireCake

+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
(P)MaNa <> (Z)FireCake
MaNa wins 2-0!


+ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +

ThorZaIN vs. FireCake
(T)ThorZaIN < Newkirk Precinct > (Z)FireCake
(T)ThorZaIN < Akilon Wastes > (Z)FireCake
(T)ThorZaIN <> (Z)FireCake

ThorZaIN wins 2-0!

MaNa vs. Bischu
(P)MaNa < Bel'Shir Vestige > (P)Bischu
(P)MaNa < Whirlwind > (P)Bischu
(P)MaNa < Akilon Wastes > (P)Bischu

MaNa wins 2-1!

Winners' Match
(T)ThorZaIN < Akilon Wastes > (P)MaNa
(T)ThorZaIN < Whirlwind > (P)MaNa
(T)ThorZaIN < Newkirk Precinct > (P)MaNa

ThorZaIN wins 2-1 and advances to the Premier League!

Losers' Match
(Z)FireCake < Neo Planet S > (P)Bischu
(Z)FireCake < Star Station > (P)Bischu
(Z)FireCake < Akilon Wastes > (P)Bischu

FireCake wins 2-1! Bischu drops out of WCS!

Final Match
(P)MaNa < Daybreak > (Z)FireCake
(P)MaNa < Akilon Wastes > (Z)FireCake
(P)MaNa <> (Z)FireCake

MaNa wins 2-0 and advances to the Premier League!



ThorZaIN and MaNa advance to the Premier League!
FireCake stays in the Challenger League!
Bischu drops out of WCS!






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+ Show Spoiler +

ThorZaIN vs. FireCake Game 1
ThorZaIN vs. FireCake Game 2
ThorZaIN vs. FireCake Game 3



MaNa vs. Bischu Game 1
MaNa vs. Bischu Game 2
MaNa vs. Bischu Game 3



Winners' Match Game 1
Winners' Match Game 2
Winners' Match Game 3



Losers' Match Game 1
Losers' Match Game 2
Losers' Match Game 3



Final Match Game 1
Final Match Game 2
Final Match Game 3



No schellbot, no live reports.




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+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [ThorZaIN vs. FireCake] +
Way too late for this!

+ Show Spoiler [MaNa vs. Bischu] +
Poll: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 1?

No (4)
 
57%

If you have time (3)
 
43%

Yes (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 2?

No (3)
 
60%

Yes (2)
 
40%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 3?

No (7)
 
78%

Yes (2)
 
22%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



+ Show Spoiler [Winners' Match] +
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?

Yes (2)
 
40%

No (2)
 
40%

If you have time (1)
 
20%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?

Yes (6)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?

Yes (4)
 
67%

No (1)
 
17%

If you have time (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



+ Show Spoiler [Losers' Match] +
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?

No (3)
 
43%

Yes (2)
 
29%

If you have time (2)
 
29%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?

No (5)
 
83%

If you have time (1)
 
17%

Yes (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?

No (4)
 
57%

If you have time (2)
 
29%

Yes (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

No (6)
 
60%

Yes (2)
 
20%

If you have time (2)
 
20%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

Yes (3)
 
60%

If you have time (2)
 
40%

No (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

Yes (2)
 
40%

If you have time (2)
 
40%

No (1)
 
20%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:41:02
June 04 2013 16:32 GMT
#2
Poll: Head?

ThorZaIN & MaNa (8)
 
80%

ThorZaIN & FireCake (2)
 
20%

ThorZaIN & Bischu (0)
 
0%

MaNa & Bischu (0)
 
0%

MaNa & FireCake (0)
 
0%

Bischu & FireCake (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Head?

(Vote): ThorZaIN & MaNa
(Vote): ThorZaIN & Bischu
(Vote): ThorZaIN & FireCake
(Vote): MaNa & Bischu
(Vote): MaNa & FireCake
(Vote): Bischu & FireCake



Poll: Heart?

ThorZaIN & MaNa (7)
 
78%

ThorZaIN & Bischu (1)
 
11%

ThorZaIN & FireCake (1)
 
11%

MaNa & Bischu (0)
 
0%

MaNa & FireCake (0)
 
0%

Bischu & FireCake (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Heart?

(Vote): ThorZaIN & MaNa
(Vote): ThorZaIN & Bischu
(Vote): ThorZaIN & FireCake
(Vote): MaNa & Bischu
(Vote): MaNa & FireCake
(Vote): Bischu & FireCake



                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
FireCake 59.21% 31.63% 27.58% 21.55% 19.24%
MaNa 56.15% 28.48% 27.66% 23.48% 20.38%
ThorZaIN 48.51% 23.40% 25.12% 26.29% 25.20%
Bischu 36.13% 16.50% 19.63% 28.69% 35.18%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
June 04 2013 16:34 GMT
#3
Thanks for making the OP
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
June 04 2013 16:36 GMT
#4
thorzain just crushed this frenchman :O
Mangooze
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands301 Posts
June 04 2013 16:38 GMT
#5
Nice, a pro casting. Love it when they do that. Good job Targa.
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
June 04 2013 16:38 GMT
#6
Thanks OP. I considered making this but became scared and confused. I just followed the email twitch sent me and wasn't entirely sure what I was even watching

First games were a tad one sided there.
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 04 2013 16:39 GMT
#7
Thorzain, you sneaky little bugger :D
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
June 04 2013 16:40 GMT
#8
The meta analysis makes even such one sided games extremely fascinating. Good calls.
PGtour admin
Shirohige
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany398 Posts
June 04 2013 16:42 GMT
#9
I can't load any twitch streams? Is it a problem on my side?
Suffering is good on the path to carnage
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 04 2013 16:43 GMT
#10
On June 05 2013 01:42 Shirohige wrote:
I can't load any twitch streams? Is it a problem on my side?

Had the same thing just now, I closed my browser, reinstalled Flash and everything's fine again. Dunno if that was the cause though.
Shirohige
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany398 Posts
June 04 2013 16:44 GMT
#11
On June 05 2013 01:43 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 01:42 Shirohige wrote:
I can't load any twitch streams? Is it a problem on my side?

Had the same thing just now, I closed my browser, reinstalled Flash and everything's fine again. Dunno if that was the cause though.

One of the streams loaded now, after what seemed an eternity.
Suffering is good on the path to carnage
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
June 04 2013 16:44 GMT
#12
How good is Bischu's pvp?
You're now breathing manually
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 04 2013 16:46 GMT
#13
On June 05 2013 01:44 Sent. wrote:
How good is Bischu's pvp?

Probably as good as Bischu in general. Don't think it's outstanding but also not remarkably weak.
deus.machinarum
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria658 Posts
June 04 2013 16:47 GMT
#14
Pretty surprised by Targa's casting, nice job!!!
Nothing worth having comes easy.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18412 Posts
June 04 2013 16:49 GMT
#15
thanks for making the OP!!
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 16:51:05
June 04 2013 16:50 GMT
#16
Poll: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 1?

No (4)
 
57%

If you have time (3)
 
43%

Yes (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



Doing my best, just a bit behind!
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
June 04 2013 16:58 GMT
#17
Mana is straight up trolling.
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
June 04 2013 16:59 GMT
#18
What just happened?
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
June 04 2013 16:59 GMT
#19
This is one the sloppiest game I have seen ^
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
June 04 2013 16:59 GMT
#20
wtf is this game...
All I do is Stim.
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
June 04 2013 16:59 GMT
#21
Letting that Nexus live is an interesting choice, let's see how it pays off.
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 16:59 GMT
#22
lol that nexus.. nice!
ChemBroTron
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany194 Posts
June 04 2013 16:59 GMT
#23
Mana? Y U NO KILL NEXUS?
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:01:58
June 04 2013 16:59 GMT
#24
Just super sad....WTF was That Mana?
Pathetic Greta hater.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
June 04 2013 16:59 GMT
#25
O_o
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
June 04 2013 16:59 GMT
#26
Um. What the fuc
PGtour admin
Dudasc
Profile Joined October 2012
Brazil286 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:04:21
June 04 2013 17:00 GMT
#27
this is the worst series I have seen in my life.

Srsly how come these be progamers? Wonder why blizzard wants to buff protoss, these players are so terrible. PvP is already horrible, mana and bischu only make it worse

User was warned for this post
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 04 2013 17:00 GMT
#28
That was one of funniest things I have seen in sc2 in a long time. :D
Off-season = best season
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
June 04 2013 17:01 GMT
#29
Mana !! lol dissapointing.

Dts are cause theres no detection.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
June 04 2013 17:03 GMT
#30
On June 05 2013 02:00 Dudasc wrote:
this is the worst series I have seen in my life.

Srsly how come these be progamers? Wonder why blizzard wants to buff protoss, these players are so terrible. PvP is already horrible, mana and bischu only make ir worse


made me smile ^^
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
June 04 2013 17:04 GMT
#31
Time to meditate or something until it makes sense to take .5 seconds to confirm nexus kills.
PGtour admin
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 17:04 GMT
#32
Poll: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 2?

No (3)
 
60%

Yes (2)
 
40%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
June 04 2013 17:04 GMT
#33
On June 05 2013 02:00 Dudasc wrote:
this is the worst series I have seen in my life.

Srsly how come these be progamers? Wonder why blizzard wants to buff protoss, these players are so terrible. PvP is already horrible, mana and bischu only make ir worse


Yeah, I read in the latest Battle Report that Blizzard intends to buff protoss to help out Mana and Bischu specifically.
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
June 04 2013 17:05 GMT
#34
Well that was a game that happened which I watched... I think Thorzain should have got this group covered.
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 17:05 GMT
#35
and there goes the probe!
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 04 2013 17:06 GMT
#36
What the h... was that :o
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
June 04 2013 17:08 GMT
#37
Oh . my . god . What are you doing Bischu ? xD
ChemBroTron
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany194 Posts
June 04 2013 17:08 GMT
#38
Bishu, you're a noob at cheesing. Man you could have won that already.
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 04 2013 17:10 GMT
#39
Strange cheese... Why, oh Bischu, why?
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 17:11 GMT
#40
Poll: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 3?

No (7)
 
78%

Yes (2)
 
22%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs Bischu Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
June 04 2013 17:11 GMT
#41
This is hilarious.
All I do is Stim.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
June 04 2013 17:11 GMT
#42
Some high level play right there.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4730 Posts
June 04 2013 17:12 GMT
#43
Mana playing realllly weak, he is lucky Bischu is playing even worse.
Pathetic Greta hater.
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
June 04 2013 17:14 GMT
#44
I loved bischus decision to put the 4zlots back because of a mothershipcore with no energy. Untill the core has 100energy Mana would have been dead :D
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 17:27 GMT
#45
Added extra polls and aligulac prediction to first post. Aligulac prediction surprised me tho!

+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Head?

ThorZaIN & MaNa (8)
 
80%

ThorZaIN & FireCake (2)
 
20%

ThorZaIN & Bischu (0)
 
0%

MaNa & Bischu (0)
 
0%

MaNa & FireCake (0)
 
0%

Bischu & FireCake (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Head?

(Vote): ThorZaIN & MaNa
(Vote): ThorZaIN & Bischu
(Vote): ThorZaIN & FireCake
(Vote): MaNa & Bischu
(Vote): MaNa & FireCake
(Vote): Bischu & FireCake



Poll: Heart?

ThorZaIN & MaNa (7)
 
78%

ThorZaIN & Bischu (1)
 
11%

ThorZaIN & FireCake (1)
 
11%

MaNa & Bischu (0)
 
0%

MaNa & FireCake (0)
 
0%

Bischu & FireCake (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Heart?

(Vote): ThorZaIN & MaNa
(Vote): ThorZaIN & Bischu
(Vote): ThorZaIN & FireCake
(Vote): MaNa & Bischu
(Vote): MaNa & FireCake
(Vote): Bischu & FireCake



                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
FireCake 60.69% 32.82% 27.87% 20.87% 18.44%
MaNa 53.51% 26.49% 27.02% 24.52% 21.97%
ThorZaIN 48.41% 23.51% 24.90% 26.11% 25.48%
Bischu 37.39% 17.17% 20.22% 28.50% 34.11%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
ChemBroTron
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany194 Posts
June 04 2013 17:29 GMT
#46
Thorzain will win this, Mana plays too bad today.
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
June 04 2013 17:31 GMT
#47
haha this cold war joke was just embarrassing :D
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 04 2013 17:33 GMT
#48
Mana getting smashed :-o
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 17:33 GMT
#49
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?

Yes (2)
 
40%

No (2)
 
40%

If you have time (1)
 
20%

5 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:34:24
June 04 2013 17:34 GMT
#50
Did I see a move command into Thorzains army there from Mana? His micro isn't very good today oO
I Protoss winner, could it be?
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
June 04 2013 17:35 GMT
#51
Thorzain stomping his opponents into the ground... wth Mana.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
June 04 2013 17:36 GMT
#52
@ibo

The order of players you enter into Aligulac is important. The initial rounds are wrong and this influences the results.
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
June 04 2013 17:36 GMT
#53
Thorzain didn't look particularly pressured there, looking a lot like a 2-0.
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:41:19
June 04 2013 17:40 GMT
#54
On June 05 2013 02:36 SinCitta wrote:
@ibo

The order of players you enter into Aligulac is important. The initial rounds are wrong and this influences the results.

Now you say it.. I indeed missed that one. Thanks. Still couldn't convince aligulac about thorzain tho. :/

+ Show Spoiler +
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
FireCake 59.21% 31.63% 27.58% 21.55% 19.24%
MaNa 56.15% 28.48% 27.66% 23.48% 20.38%
ThorZaIN 48.51% 23.40% 25.12% 26.29% 25.20%
Bischu 36.13% 16.50% 19.63% 28.69% 35.18%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:47:37
June 04 2013 17:47 GMT
#55
Thorzain giving away a full medivac . Mana returning the favor with a colossi . These guys are so mannered . :D
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3324 Posts
June 04 2013 17:47 GMT
#56
Not sure about that scouting colossus.
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 17:49:26
June 04 2013 17:49 GMT
#57
On June 05 2013 02:47 pmp10 wrote:
Not sure about that scouting colossus.

It is important to win the game, because without scouting you lose and who can scout better than a giant robot with his head in the air?
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 17:53 GMT
#58
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Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
June 04 2013 17:53 GMT
#59
Not sure what Thorzain was doing there. He was completely outplaying Mana and then dawdled forever.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
June 04 2013 17:53 GMT
#60
Targa's accent sounds Dutch, it's so weird.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
June 04 2013 17:53 GMT
#61
Mana very rusty, suprised he won that one
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
June 04 2013 17:54 GMT
#62
--- Nuked ---
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
June 04 2013 17:55 GMT
#63
Mana actually played that pretty well.
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
June 04 2013 17:56 GMT
#64
Targa actually looks like a mix between Incontrol and Totalbuiscuit :O

Mana fighting !
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
June 04 2013 18:02 GMT
#65
Why put gates behind mineral line? It can backfire very easily
You're now breathing manually
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:05:56
June 04 2013 18:04 GMT
#66
This push might end the game..

Nice and fast control from thorzain!
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
June 04 2013 18:05 GMT
#67
And Thorzain is back in Premier League! Damn, that looked easy.
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
June 04 2013 18:05 GMT
#68
That's some darn good Medivaccing
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 18:06 GMT
#69
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 3?

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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 04 2013 18:06 GMT
#70
wow this was really weak play by mana so many supplyblocks and how the hell did this reaper get in? no way this should happen.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ChemBroTron
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany194 Posts
June 04 2013 18:06 GMT
#71
Welcome to Premier League, Thorzain.
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
June 04 2013 18:06 GMT
#72
That's actually a blink-like medivac manuveur. Well played Thorzain!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 04 2013 18:09 GMT
#73
Half way there on the liquibets.
spalding
Profile Joined August 2010
95 Posts
June 04 2013 18:09 GMT
#74
nice medivac control
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 18:13 GMT
#75
Not the mana I was expecting to see but I hope he gets back to the premier league!
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
June 04 2013 18:14 GMT
#76
The WCS portal is up btw:

http://wcs.battle.net
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 04 2013 18:29 GMT
#77
Thank God T-zain advanced, he really belongs into premier league.
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 04 2013 18:29 GMT
#78
Latre drone pullback from third by Bischu
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 04 2013 18:32 GMT
#79
that was really odd...
Moderatorshe/her
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ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 18:32 GMT
#80
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 1?

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waki
Profile Joined July 2011
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 18:36:52
June 04 2013 18:36 GMT
#81
nvm
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
June 04 2013 18:44 GMT
#82
lol TargA so skeptical of FireCake
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 18:49 GMT
#83
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?

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0%

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Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
June 04 2013 18:50 GMT
#84
On June 05 2013 03:44 mikkmagro wrote:
lol TargA so skeptical of FireCake

He's very Zerg bias. He plays Zerg, so he thinks Protoss always has a chance despite being completely dead.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
June 04 2013 18:50 GMT
#85
No one else experience a complete crash of the stream? It keeps saying there are issues loading for me...
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
June 04 2013 18:54 GMT
#86
On June 05 2013 03:50 Arco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 03:44 mikkmagro wrote:
lol TargA so skeptical of FireCake

He's very Zerg bias. He plays Zerg, so he thinks Protoss always has a chance despite being completely dead.

I was referring to his disbelief when FireCake blind-countered Bischu ^^
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 18:54 GMT
#87
On June 05 2013 03:50 Cereb wrote:
No one else experience a complete crash of the stream? It keeps saying there are issues loading for me...

I'm lagfree on 720p.
Myt
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany318 Posts
June 04 2013 18:54 GMT
#88
On June 05 2013 03:50 Cereb wrote:
No one else experience a complete crash of the stream? It keeps saying there are issues loading for me...


atm I can't join any stream at twitch
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 19:03:09
June 04 2013 18:58 GMT
#89
On June 05 2013 03:54 Myt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 03:50 Cereb wrote:
No one else experience a complete crash of the stream? It keeps saying there are issues loading for me...


atm I can't join any stream at twitch


I had some problems with joining streams too but since I did everything seems to be fine.
You're now breathing manually
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 19:01 GMT
#90
Bischu overreacting with double stargates.. -__-
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
June 04 2013 19:04 GMT
#91
"Mehr Kanonen bauen" was pretty good pronounced GJ Targa!
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#92
-.-
Refer to my post.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#93
what was that engagement? I can't think of what he wanted to accomplish
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#94
Come on Bischu, you have to defend France's honor.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 19:10:00
June 04 2013 19:06 GMT
#95
Oh my gosh Bischu is so bad :O He had this battle won and then lost EVERYTHING

//EDIT: Targa is such a funny caster xD ("Firecake plays with him... or he is just really stupid" :'D)
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 19:06 GMT
#96
Right now, I think bischu has one of every unit possible on the field :p
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
June 04 2013 19:07 GMT
#97
Oh my goodness Bischu .. And he almost beat Mana .. xD
Tarrot
Profile Joined September 2010
Taiwan85 Posts
June 04 2013 19:08 GMT
#98
"What just happened?"

"Bischu fucked up."
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 04 2013 19:08 GMT
#99
On June 05 2013 04:08 Tarrot wrote:
"What just happened?"

"Bischu fucked up."

There is an elegance to that kind of cast.
uLysSeS1
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany210 Posts
June 04 2013 19:08 GMT
#100
Targa's casting is really bad. Not really commentating the game at all and only laughing about Bischu when the fight happens...wtf
derp.
Cam Connor
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada786 Posts
June 04 2013 19:09 GMT
#101
this is embarrassing
post to be
TL+ Member
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 19:10 GMT
#102
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 3?

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Yes (1)
 
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 04 2013 19:11 GMT
#103
Bischu continuing the trend of only protoss dropping out of WCS:EU
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 19:13:40
June 04 2013 19:13 GMT
#104
On June 05 2013 04:11 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Bischu continuing the trend of only protoss dropping out of WCS:EU

I mean did you watch his play ? Buffing warp prism is not going to compensate that . ^.^
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
June 04 2013 19:16 GMT
#105
twitch dead??
yo
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
June 04 2013 19:17 GMT
#106
On June 05 2013 04:16 Killmouse wrote:
twitch dead??


just reload x-times till you get it working. worked for me and others aswell.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 19:17 GMT
#107
On June 05 2013 04:16 Killmouse wrote:
twitch dead??

720p still up here (watching on tl).
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 04 2013 19:17 GMT
#108
On June 05 2013 04:13 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:11 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Bischu continuing the trend of only protoss dropping out of WCS:EU

I mean did you watch his play ? Buffing warp prism is not going to compensate that . ^.^


I didn't make that comment for anything balance related. Merely stating the statistic. We could even see 8/8 with Welmu and MC playing tomorrow. I HIGHLY, highly doubt MC drops out but Welmu could. Hell if Nerchio beats MC and DarkHydra beats Welmu theres a small chance Welmu out PvPs MC. Still ridiculously unlikely but possible.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
June 04 2013 19:18 GMT
#109
Go go go Firecake!

You have the best nickname in all SC2 progaming world!
x2mirko
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany245 Posts
June 04 2013 19:18 GMT
#110
On June 05 2013 04:16 Killmouse wrote:
twitch dead??


doesn't work for me, either.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
June 04 2013 19:19 GMT
#111
On June 05 2013 04:18 x2mirko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:16 Killmouse wrote:
twitch dead??


doesn't work for me, either.

I'm having issues too. Both on TL and on Twitch.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
June 04 2013 19:20 GMT
#112
twitch down ?
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
June 04 2013 19:21 GMT
#113
On June 05 2013 04:20 CoR wrote:
twitch down ?


Almost dead... takes ages to load and stutters in every resolution.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
June 04 2013 19:22 GMT
#114
Man Bischu

Played awful today. It's gonna be impossible to get back in challenger :/
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
June 04 2013 19:28 GMT
#115
Twitch has been completely fine for me in 360p, which is odd because Twitch normally jumps at the chance to lag for me.
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
June 04 2013 19:32 GMT
#116
is firenoob really beating mana ?
oh man wow.
RIP MKP
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 19:34:40
June 04 2013 19:33 GMT
#117
firecake going for basetrade army!

ouch, mutas vs archons/storm..
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 04 2013 19:34 GMT
#118
Yay, archons !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
June 04 2013 19:35 GMT
#119
Damn, Firecake had this... Good defense by Mana
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
June 04 2013 19:38 GMT
#120
this is quickly going from fantasy gg timing to mkp gg timing
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 19:39 GMT
#121
lol mana.. I guess he's enjoying his win.. -__-
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 19:39 GMT
#122
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

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60%

Yes (2)
 
20%

If you have time (2)
 
20%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time

BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 04 2013 19:40 GMT
#123
well, that was an interesting game lol. Switch to mutas when there are 5 archons and phoenixes lol. Given, it did help a bit but meh
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
June 04 2013 19:41 GMT
#124
Firecake played that well until the muta switch.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
June 04 2013 19:41 GMT
#125
FireCake has to end it early if he wants to push it into the last match.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 19:47:06
June 04 2013 19:46 GMT
#126
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 04 2013 19:48 GMT
#127
On June 05 2013 04:46 sitromit wrote:
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.


Jaedong is not the only one, from what I heard Fircake is pretty bm in general.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
June 04 2013 19:48 GMT
#128
On June 05 2013 04:46 sitromit wrote:
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.

He BM'd me today on ladder when he lost.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 04 2013 19:49 GMT
#129
On June 05 2013 04:46 sitromit wrote:
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.

Sounds like a gentleman of class who just requires the encouragement of his peers.

Say is alliance recruiting?
Glorious SEA doto
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
June 04 2013 19:51 GMT
#130
On June 05 2013 04:48 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:46 sitromit wrote:
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.


Jaedong is not the only one, from what I heard Fircake is pretty bm in general.

Yeah, it was safe to assume that it wasn't the first time he was raging at someone, I just found it pretty humorous that some random nobody was BMing Jaedong and calling him bad, especially after such a hilariously one sided game.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 19:52 GMT
#131
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

Yes (3)
 
60%

If you have time (2)
 
40%

No (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

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(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



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40%

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40%

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20%

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(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 04 2013 19:52 GMT
#132
awkward conversation between Mana and FireCake XD
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
June 04 2013 19:52 GMT
#133
On June 05 2013 04:49 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:46 sitromit wrote:
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.

Sounds like a gentleman of class who just requires the encouragement of his peers.

Say is alliance recruiting?

I'm sure that eMG will pick him up if he doesn't manage anything on his own.
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
June 04 2013 19:52 GMT
#134
This Firezerg fellow seems like a likable, respectable guy.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 04 2013 19:52 GMT
#135
Mana's micro there was pretty good. Why does Firecake think it's unfair again? lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 04 2013 19:53 GMT
#136
7 of 7 groups so far the protoss fell out, lol
Refer to my post.
Rantech
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile527 Posts
June 04 2013 19:53 GMT
#137
I really liked targa casting. You get a good analysis plus no french accent.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 19:55:42
June 04 2013 19:54 GMT
#138
On June 05 2013 04:53 Zenbrez wrote:
7 of 7 groups so far the protoss fell out, lol


this doesn't sound good for MC/Welmu
You're now breathing manually
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 04 2013 19:54 GMT
#139
On June 05 2013 04:53 Zenbrez wrote:
7 of 7 groups so far the protoss fell out, lol

Well most of it wasn't surprising like monchi had elfi and so on. Must say did not see a protoss falling out of group D at all that was a surprise to me :p
Glorious SEA doto
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
June 04 2013 19:55 GMT
#140
On June 05 2013 04:54 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:53 Zenbrez wrote:
7 of 7 groups so far the protoss fell out, lol


this doesn't sound well for MC/Welmu

Half the players in challenger and subsequently the up and downs were protoss. it's about half advancing and half dropping, so it's not all that surprising.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 04 2013 19:56 GMT
#141
On June 05 2013 04:51 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:48 Xoronius wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:46 sitromit wrote:
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.


Jaedong is not the only one, from what I heard Fircake is pretty bm in general.

Yeah, it was safe to assume that it wasn't the first time he was raging at someone, I just found it pretty humorous that some random nobody was BMing Jaedong and calling him bad, especially after such a hilariously one sided game.


I´ve heard from many pro-gamers via twitter and stuff, that they get flamed a lot more, when playing on a barcode. That´s seems to be some weird "If I don´t recognize them, they don´t recognize me either"-thing, I doubt Firecake would flame Jaedong, knowing it was Jaedong.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 19:57:44
June 04 2013 19:57 GMT
#142
On June 05 2013 04:56 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:51 sitromit wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:48 Xoronius wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:46 sitromit wrote:
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.


Jaedong is not the only one, from what I heard Fircake is pretty bm in general.

Yeah, it was safe to assume that it wasn't the first time he was raging at someone, I just found it pretty humorous that some random nobody was BMing Jaedong and calling him bad, especially after such a hilariously one sided game.


I´ve heard from many pro-gamers via twitter and stuff, that they get flamed a lot more, when playing on a barcode. That´s seems to be some weird "If I don´t recognize them, they don´t recognize me either"-thing, I doubt Firecake would flame Jaedong, knowing it was Jaedong.

That is not the point you know. Calling someone baddie when he is kicking your ass is at least hilarious and childish. Be it JD or anyone else.
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
June 04 2013 19:57 GMT
#143
There were some okay games today. From what I saw the right people went up. As a sidenote Twitch is now being an asshat and not loading streams for me.
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 04 2013 19:57 GMT
#144
On June 05 2013 04:56 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:51 sitromit wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:48 Xoronius wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:46 sitromit wrote:
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.


Jaedong is not the only one, from what I heard Fircake is pretty bm in general.

Yeah, it was safe to assume that it wasn't the first time he was raging at someone, I just found it pretty humorous that some random nobody was BMing Jaedong and calling him bad, especially after such a hilariously one sided game.


I´ve heard from many pro-gamers via twitter and stuff, that they get flamed a lot more, when playing on a barcode. That´s seems to be some weird "If I don´t recognize them, they don´t recognize me either"-thing, I doubt Firecake would flame Jaedong, knowing it was Jaedong.


Give manner to whom manner is due.
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
June 04 2013 19:58 GMT
#145
On June 05 2013 04:56 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:51 sitromit wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:48 Xoronius wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:46 sitromit wrote:
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.


Jaedong is not the only one, from what I heard Fircake is pretty bm in general.

Yeah, it was safe to assume that it wasn't the first time he was raging at someone, I just found it pretty humorous that some random nobody was BMing Jaedong and calling him bad, especially after such a hilariously one sided game.


I´ve heard from many pro-gamers via twitter and stuff, that they get flamed a lot more, when playing on a barcode. That´s seems to be some weird "If I don´t recognize them, they don´t recognize me either"-thing, I doubt Firecake would flame Jaedong, knowing it was Jaedong.

That seems a little more stupid, because you could be flaming anyone. For all you know, that barcode is a Code S player so it's really silly for Firezerg to assume it's some scrub considering like half the koreans are barcode id's
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 04 2013 19:59 GMT
#146
On June 05 2013 04:56 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:51 sitromit wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:48 Xoronius wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:46 sitromit wrote:
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.


Jaedong is not the only one, from what I heard Fircake is pretty bm in general.

Yeah, it was safe to assume that it wasn't the first time he was raging at someone, I just found it pretty humorous that some random nobody was BMing Jaedong and calling him bad, especially after such a hilariously one sided game.


I´ve heard from many pro-gamers via twitter and stuff, that they get flamed a lot more, when playing on a barcode. That´s seems to be some weird "If I don´t recognize them, they don´t recognize me either"-thing, I doubt Firecake would flame Jaedong, knowing it was Jaedong.

He would, don't worry.
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ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 04 2013 20:00 GMT
#147
Guys, feel free to make a thread for tomorrow. (a bit in advance :p)

GG's!
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
June 04 2013 20:02 GMT
#148
Tournaments seriously needs to remove the chat function and just give out warnings/ban people if they see any BM in the chatlog afterwards.

This "rant" from mr. Firecake is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
June 04 2013 20:05 GMT
#149
On June 05 2013 05:02 Longtimer wrote:
Tournaments seriously needs to remove the chat function and just give out warnings/ban people if they see any BM in the chatlog afterwards.

This "rant" from mr. Firecake is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.

I am all in for it. Some punishment would keep out the hands of some warriors off the keyboard. Such rants are not funny, rather stupid and abrasive.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 04 2013 20:06 GMT
#150
On June 05 2013 05:05 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 05:02 Longtimer wrote:
Tournaments seriously needs to remove the chat function and just give out warnings/ban people if they see any BM in the chatlog afterwards.

This "rant" from mr. Firecake is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.

I am all in for it. Some punishment would keep out the hands of some warriors off the keyboard. Such rants are not funny, rather stupid and abrasive.

I think it's funny. It didn't seem in very bad nature. There was no "you are a piece of shit" attack or anything like that. Just a bit of whining about his own situation and stuff.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
June 04 2013 20:07 GMT
#151
On June 05 2013 04:57 FetTerBender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:56 Xoronius wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:51 sitromit wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:48 Xoronius wrote:
On June 05 2013 04:46 sitromit wrote:
I saw this guy (Firecake) BM Jaedong and call him a fucking baddie during beta after Jaedong ripped him a new one in a very very one sided ZvZ. Jaedong was on a barcode.


Jaedong is not the only one, from what I heard Fircake is pretty bm in general.

Yeah, it was safe to assume that it wasn't the first time he was raging at someone, I just found it pretty humorous that some random nobody was BMing Jaedong and calling him bad, especially after such a hilariously one sided game.


I´ve heard from many pro-gamers via twitter and stuff, that they get flamed a lot more, when playing on a barcode. That´s seems to be some weird "If I don´t recognize them, they don´t recognize me either"-thing, I doubt Firecake would flame Jaedong, knowing it was Jaedong.


Give manner to whom manner is due.

More like "I am only mannered if there are consequences to the contrary".
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
June 04 2013 20:09 GMT
#152
On June 05 2013 04:53 Zenbrez wrote:
7 of 7 groups so far the protoss fell out, lol

That's because too many had qualified, some were not up to par. The race distribution for next season is very even in EU, it's 10 of each so far, will be 11 P & Z, 10 T if Nerchio and MC go through tomorrow.
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
June 04 2013 20:12 GMT
#153
What did fire cake say in chat? I missed it :p
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12193 Posts
June 04 2013 20:13 GMT
#154
So we reached the 10-10-10, exactly as I hoped we would (scypio if you're reading that's what I was rooting for). Perfect race balance in the seeding, worse possibility left is 12-10-10, which is still all right, and anyway sorry Welmu but I don't think you're through tomorrow
No will to live, no wish to die
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 20:15:04
June 04 2013 20:14 GMT
#155
What did Firezerg say? I missed turned the stream off a bit before the end of the game

On June 05 2013 05:09 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 04:53 Zenbrez wrote:
7 of 7 groups so far the protoss fell out, lol

That's because too many had qualified, some were not up to par. The race distribution for next season is very even in EU, it's 10 of each so far, will be 11 P & Z, 10 T if Nerchio and MC go through tomorrow.


Of course, not whining, just an observation
Refer to my post.
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
June 04 2013 20:16 GMT
#156
On June 05 2013 05:06 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 05:05 Roman666 wrote:
On June 05 2013 05:02 Longtimer wrote:
Tournaments seriously needs to remove the chat function and just give out warnings/ban people if they see any BM in the chatlog afterwards.

This "rant" from mr. Firecake is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.

I am all in for it. Some punishment would keep out the hands of some warriors off the keyboard. Such rants are not funny, rather stupid and abrasive.

I think it's funny. It didn't seem in very bad nature. There was no "you are a piece of shit" attack or anything like that. Just a bit of whining about his own situation and stuff.

It wasn't in bad nature, but it was just beyond cringeworthy and pathetic.

Anyways, my suggestion goes for everything (BM, excuses, complains), just don't show anything. What does it help the viewer, other than create a shitload of drama on reddit?

And I'm not saying that Firecake necessarily should get a warning/ban, that's more for the severe cases (we've had some of them in these qualifiers...).

That's my five cents
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
June 04 2013 20:17 GMT
#157
On June 05 2013 05:02 Longtimer wrote:
Tournaments seriously needs to remove the chat function and just give out warnings/ban people if they see any BM in the chatlog afterwards.

This "rant" from mr. Firecake is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.


One of the saddest things you have ever seen

That was hardly a rant.. and Naniwa has berated his opponents several times after games in WCS, don't think he hasn't received a penalty for it.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 04 2013 20:20 GMT
#158
On June 05 2013 05:12 freerolll wrote:
What did fire cake say in chat? I missed it :p

It was about four lines of chat. He mentioned he felt it was unfair that he lost. It seemed as if Mana and him were playing together a lot and him usually winning. The last line was Mana typing "thanks".

No idea if he was genuinely chatting and joking with Mana or trying to say something to the audience watching.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
June 04 2013 20:20 GMT
#159
On June 05 2013 05:12 freerolll wrote:
What did fire cake say in chat? I missed it :p


Something like "gg. but seriously. it feels so unfair. i played you so many times. gl"

I really hope people who want to ban chat in wcs are in tiny minority. It's just words.
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Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 20:28:27
June 04 2013 20:27 GMT
#160
On June 05 2013 05:17 iNsaNe- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 05:02 Longtimer wrote:
Tournaments seriously needs to remove the chat function and just give out warnings/ban people if they see any BM in the chatlog afterwards.

This "rant" from mr. Firecake is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.


One of the saddest things you have ever seen

That was hardly a rant.. and Naniwa has berated his opponents several times after games in WCS, don't think he hasn't received a penalty for it.

Yes, it certainly was one of the saddest things I've witnessed. He just lost 2-0 and takes a minute to tell Mana, the casters, and the viewers how unfair it is because he usually beats the Polish player on the ladder?!?!?

And yes, it wasn't a rant-rant, that's why I wrote it in quotation marks. It was still embarressing to watch, and will only be used against him in the future (also why chat-sensur could be a good thing, the players are obviously upset after a loss and people react differently).

They should still get warnings and potential bans (if it happens over and over again, for example) for their BM, but it can easily be done without creating a shit storm.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
June 04 2013 20:27 GMT
#161
On June 05 2013 05:20 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 05:12 freerolll wrote:
What did fire cake say in chat? I missed it :p


Something like "gg. but seriously. it feels so unfair. i played you so many times. gl"

I really hope people who want to ban chat in wcs are in tiny minority. It's just words.

I am not for banning chat, rather for warning people who are too excessive with the insults. Latest case I can recollect would be Naniwa who BMed Tefel. There should be rules preventing it, like you get warning for the first time, but next time you get a def-lose in your next game (not match, a single game) in this season. That would stop people going overboard with it.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 20:30:02
June 04 2013 20:29 GMT
#162
On June 05 2013 05:27 Longtimer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 05:17 iNsaNe- wrote:
On June 05 2013 05:02 Longtimer wrote:
Tournaments seriously needs to remove the chat function and just give out warnings/ban people if they see any BM in the chatlog afterwards.

This "rant" from mr. Firecake is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.


One of the saddest things you have ever seen

That was hardly a rant.. and Naniwa has berated his opponents several times after games in WCS, don't think he hasn't received a penalty for it.

Yes, it certainly was one of the saddest things I've witnessed. He just lost 2-0 and takes a minute to tell Mana, the casters, and the viewers how unfair it is because he usually beats the Polish player on the ladder?!?!?

And yes, it wasn't a rant-rant, that's why I wrote it in quotation marks. It was still embarressing to watch, and will only be used against him in the future (also why chat-sensur could be a good thing, the players are obviously upset after a loss and people react differently).

They should still get warnings and potential bans (if it happens over and over again, for example) for their BM, but it can easily be done without creating a shit storm.

But if it would be hidden you wouldn't know this now about Mr. Firecake. Isn't it better that you've seen this?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
June 04 2013 20:39 GMT
#163
On June 05 2013 05:29 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 05:27 Longtimer wrote:
On June 05 2013 05:17 iNsaNe- wrote:
On June 05 2013 05:02 Longtimer wrote:
Tournaments seriously needs to remove the chat function and just give out warnings/ban people if they see any BM in the chatlog afterwards.

This "rant" from mr. Firecake is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.


One of the saddest things you have ever seen

That was hardly a rant.. and Naniwa has berated his opponents several times after games in WCS, don't think he hasn't received a penalty for it.

Yes, it certainly was one of the saddest things I've witnessed. He just lost 2-0 and takes a minute to tell Mana, the casters, and the viewers how unfair it is because he usually beats the Polish player on the ladder?!?!?

And yes, it wasn't a rant-rant, that's why I wrote it in quotation marks. It was still embarressing to watch, and will only be used against him in the future (also why chat-sensur could be a good thing, the players are obviously upset after a loss and people react differently).

They should still get warnings and potential bans (if it happens over and over again, for example) for their BM, but it can easily be done without creating a shit storm.

But if it would be hidden you wouldn't know this now about Mr. Firecake. Isn't it better that you've seen this?

Well, it would have been good if I were to be a hateful little shit, but all I'm really interested in is the game. As I said, people that BMs (real BM) over and over again should get their warnings and bans, but I don't really see why it's good that the BM takes the focus away from the game itself (as it normally does with this community when someone get's a little bit tilted)...

Anyway, it's just my opinion, I don't expect anyone to agree, but given that this is a forum I thought I could put it out there.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 20:47:40
June 04 2013 20:46 GMT
#164
I didn't really want to criticize you, just show a bit of my own opinion. I have to say I didn't actually think it was terribly BM what he typed. We can't know what his tone was as it was just text, not actual talking in person. The tone I was imagining was him being a bit sad and lamenting his fate in life or something, not attacking Mana.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
June 04 2013 21:18 GMT
#165
On June 05 2013 05:46 Ropid wrote:
I didn't really want to criticize you, just show a bit of my own opinion. I have to say I didn't actually think it was terribly BM what he typed. We can't know what his tone was as it was just text, not actual talking in person. The tone I was imagining was him being a bit sad and lamenting his fate in life or something, not attacking Mana.

Absolutely not, but Firecake isn't really my point. That was just sad, and will stick with him in the future (which I think is kind of unfair, even though I've heard he's a lot worse on ladder). I was just talking more in general without outing names of people that definitely should get some kind of warning/punishment for their actions.
ray1995
Profile Joined June 2013
13 Posts
June 04 2013 21:48 GMT
#166
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Australia54784 Posts
June 04 2013 22:00 GMT
#167
yay tz and mana!
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
June 05 2013 07:47 GMT
#168
You guys are hilarous if you think any typing except GG is BM.
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4730 Posts
June 05 2013 09:12 GMT
#169
You should be practicing instead of brwosing TL. ;P
Pathetic Greta hater.
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
June 05 2013 12:09 GMT
#170
On June 05 2013 05:27 Longtimer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 05:17 iNsaNe- wrote:
On June 05 2013 05:02 Longtimer wrote:
Tournaments seriously needs to remove the chat function and just give out warnings/ban people if they see any BM in the chatlog afterwards.

This "rant" from mr. Firecake is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.


One of the saddest things you have ever seen

That was hardly a rant.. and Naniwa has berated his opponents several times after games in WCS, don't think he hasn't received a penalty for it.

Yes, it certainly was one of the saddest things I've witnessed. He just lost 2-0 and takes a minute to tell Mana, the casters, and the viewers how unfair it is because he usually beats the Polish player on the ladder?!?!?


If you seriously find that as one of the saddest things you have ever witnessed, you haven't experienced much. I wouldn't recommend telling that in a job interview.
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