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poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
June 01 2013 21:30 GMT
#1381
On June 02 2013 06:16 Somthing_clvr wrote:
I don't know how you Americans deal with it, as a European I'm so frustrated with not a single foreigner, let alone american making it into the round of 4. Its not even top level Starcraft compared to the GSL finals at least.


Even though I am an American, I am happy to see that all the foreigners have been wiped out.

The next step is for Kespa to wipe out all of the non-Kespa players. The world belongs to Kespa. :DDDDDD
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 01 2013 21:30 GMT
#1382
On June 02 2013 06:28 sitromit wrote:
Has there been any word so far on the format of the season finals? Just 16 man single elimination? ro16 GSL style groups? 16 man double elimination bracket?

It will be interesting to see how the brackets shape up. If there's group stage, foreigners will probably do worse, because there's less chance of just getting a lucky matchup in the first round.


Ro16 GSL groups into single elimination, so essentially GSL minus one group stage
AdministratorBreak the chains
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 01 2013 21:30 GMT
#1383
Ryung should get a sponsorship from Crocs tbh
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 01 2013 21:31 GMT
#1384
On June 02 2013 06:30 poisui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:16 Somthing_clvr wrote:
I don't know how you Americans deal with it, as a European I'm so frustrated with not a single foreigner, let alone american making it into the round of 4. Its not even top level Starcraft compared to the GSL finals at least.


Even though I am an American, I am happy to see that all the foreigners have been wiped out.

The next step is for Kespa to wipe out all of the non-Kespa players. The world belongs to Kespa. :DDDDDD


The world is your oyster, said Flash to his people.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 01 2013 21:31 GMT
#1385
On June 02 2013 06:30 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:29 Boucot wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:27 Grumbels wrote:
what are crocs?

This

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Why would anyone willingly wear one of those? :/
they are good for walking on wet floors and those foreigners might cry a lot
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
June 01 2013 21:32 GMT
#1386
On June 02 2013 06:30 Chairman Ray wrote:
Ryung should get a sponsorship from Crocs tbh


I actually just tweeted at Genna suggesting that...

Although really, maybe a better shoe company should sponsor Axiom, so they can eliminate Crocs on a team-wide basis.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
June 01 2013 21:32 GMT
#1387
On June 02 2013 06:29 Grumbels wrote:
so all those comments on reddit and tl were about orange shoes? we need more things to talk about


its not about the color ^^
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 01 2013 21:32 GMT
#1388
On June 02 2013 06:28 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:24 Kergy wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:16 Somthing_clvr wrote:
I don't know how you Americans deal with it, as a European I'm so frustrated with not a single foreigner, let alone american making it into the round of 4. Its not even top level Starcraft compared to the GSL finals at least.


It's ok, money going to the better (thus more deserving) players. It's still a complete joke that WCS KR has the same prizepool as NA/EU.

Dunno to me I wonder what Blizzard's intention with WCS was. I thought it was to stimulate EU and AM and try to get them closer on skill level with KR. With koreans coming in and winning WCS, leaving little to nothing behind, I feel that goal(assuming it was their goal) is not reached. Infact if anything I feel it has had worse effect by killing NASL in the process.

I don't mind people of korean nationality in AM and EU, but I wish Blizzard had made some requirement that you were an active part of the region's community, such as the ladder(note: that also effects fx Snute in this case, to be in KR).

Edit: Because yeah, that'd allow fx. EU players to learn from MVP and improve their skill level from superior practice.


I'm not a hundred percent sure on this, but I believe the idea is to establish an 100% offline league for season 2 or 3, so you will probably have to live in the region to participate. It just wasn't possible to organise this season.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 01 2013 21:33 GMT
#1389
On June 02 2013 06:30 poisui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:16 Somthing_clvr wrote:
I don't know how you Americans deal with it, as a European I'm so frustrated with not a single foreigner, let alone american making it into the round of 4. Its not even top level Starcraft compared to the GSL finals at least.


Even though I am an American, I am happy to see that all the foreigners have been wiped out.

The next step is for Kespa to wipe out all of the non-Kespa players. The world belongs to Kespa. :DDDDDD

Kespa at least sticks to where the best competition and their main market is. I can respect that.
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
June 01 2013 21:33 GMT
#1390
On June 02 2013 06:16 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:15 Xacez wrote:
So it is now confirmed. A Korean winner in all three regions. In all honestly, did people expect anything different?


I didn't expect a Korean to win in EU, the only reason it happened is because Mvp was in a much better condition than people were expecting. If it wasn't for that EU would have won.

i expect MVP to take the final next week.

he had a lot more time to practice and analyze and we saw that both innovation and soulkey can play a lot worse in high pressure situations while MVP is thriving in such circumstances
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 21:34:33
June 01 2013 21:34 GMT
#1391
On June 02 2013 06:33 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:16 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:15 Xacez wrote:
So it is now confirmed. A Korean winner in all three regions. In all honestly, did people expect anything different?


I didn't expect a Korean to win in EU, the only reason it happened is because Mvp was in a much better condition than people were expecting. If it wasn't for that EU would have won.

i expect MVP to take the final next week.

he had a lot more time to practice and analyze and we saw that both innovation and soulkey can play a lot worse in high pressure situations while MVP is thriving in such circumstances

Like when he's down 3-0?
skiersteve
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom268 Posts
June 01 2013 21:34 GMT
#1392
if mvp wins the whole thing i will be so so so so happy
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
June 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#1393
mh, all Americans out in Ro8, oh wait...
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
June 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#1394
On June 02 2013 06:32 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:28 Zarahtra wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:24 Kergy wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:16 Somthing_clvr wrote:
I don't know how you Americans deal with it, as a European I'm so frustrated with not a single foreigner, let alone american making it into the round of 4. Its not even top level Starcraft compared to the GSL finals at least.


It's ok, money going to the better (thus more deserving) players. It's still a complete joke that WCS KR has the same prizepool as NA/EU.

Dunno to me I wonder what Blizzard's intention with WCS was. I thought it was to stimulate EU and AM and try to get them closer on skill level with KR. With koreans coming in and winning WCS, leaving little to nothing behind, I feel that goal(assuming it was their goal) is not reached. Infact if anything I feel it has had worse effect by killing NASL in the process.

I don't mind people of korean nationality in AM and EU, but I wish Blizzard had made some requirement that you were an active part of the region's community, such as the ladder(note: that also effects fx Snute in this case, to be in KR).

Edit: Because yeah, that'd allow fx. EU players to learn from MVP and improve their skill level from superior practice.


I'm not a hundred percent sure on this, but I believe the idea is to establish an 100% offline league for season 2 or 3, so you will probably have to live in the region to participate. It just wasn't possible to organise this season.

Then I cross my fingers you are indeed correct
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
June 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#1395
On June 02 2013 06:34 Antylamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:33 farnham wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:16 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:15 Xacez wrote:
So it is now confirmed. A Korean winner in all three regions. In all honestly, did people expect anything different?


I didn't expect a Korean to win in EU, the only reason it happened is because Mvp was in a much better condition than people were expecting. If it wasn't for that EU would have won.

i expect MVP to take the final next week.

he had a lot more time to practice and analyze and we saw that both innovation and soulkey can play a lot worse in high pressure situations while MVP is thriving in such circumstances

Like when he's down 3-0?


was thinking the same :D
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#1396
[WCS AM] Finals Day 1 Premier S1 2013
kr (P)CranK vs kr (T)aLive
Game 1
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
CranK spawns in the bottom left
aLive spawns in the top right
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#1397
On June 02 2013 06:28 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:26 Fusilero wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:26 Wintex wrote:
Crocs are badass. wtf guys.

Good sir I do believe we have a problem.


Indeed. I mean really, they're not even a decent color - but that is secondary to their very Croc-ness.

Fact: Crocs were made so that people would think Honey Boo Boo was pretty.

They're comfy TT
The Bomber boy
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12146 Posts
June 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#1398
On June 02 2013 06:32 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:28 Zarahtra wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:24 Kergy wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:16 Somthing_clvr wrote:
I don't know how you Americans deal with it, as a European I'm so frustrated with not a single foreigner, let alone american making it into the round of 4. Its not even top level Starcraft compared to the GSL finals at least.


It's ok, money going to the better (thus more deserving) players. It's still a complete joke that WCS KR has the same prizepool as NA/EU.

Dunno to me I wonder what Blizzard's intention with WCS was. I thought it was to stimulate EU and AM and try to get them closer on skill level with KR. With koreans coming in and winning WCS, leaving little to nothing behind, I feel that goal(assuming it was their goal) is not reached. Infact if anything I feel it has had worse effect by killing NASL in the process.

I don't mind people of korean nationality in AM and EU, but I wish Blizzard had made some requirement that you were an active part of the region's community, such as the ladder(note: that also effects fx Snute in this case, to be in KR).

Edit: Because yeah, that'd allow fx. EU players to learn from MVP and improve their skill level from superior practice.


I'm not a hundred percent sure on this, but I believe the idea is to establish an 100% offline league for season 2 or 3, so you will probably have to live in the region to participate. It just wasn't possible to organise this season.


If that is so, I won't enjoy the next seasons as much, unless a massive amount of koreans decide to live in EU or NA :/

I'm ready to accept that I might be a minority with that thought, but if I am, I think it's a damn shame.
No will to live, no wish to die
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#1399
There's no way Mvp is going to take the season finals, he's raised his level high enough to where he can dominate most foreigners losing very few maps but playing vs Hero, bogusman, soulkey, sos, symbol, losira, roro is entirely different than EU.

It really depends on his bracket how far he gets, I'll say he can get top 4 with a good bracket until he runs into someone too good to beat. He won't have time to prepare for every series like a GSL, It's a weekend tournament.
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
June 01 2013 21:36 GMT
#1400
On June 02 2013 06:34 Antylamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 06:33 farnham wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:16 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2013 06:15 Xacez wrote:
So it is now confirmed. A Korean winner in all three regions. In all honestly, did people expect anything different?


I didn't expect a Korean to win in EU, the only reason it happened is because Mvp was in a much better condition than people were expecting. If it wasn't for that EU would have won.

i expect MVP to take the final next week.

he had a lot more time to practice and analyze and we saw that both innovation and soulkey can play a lot worse in high pressure situations while MVP is thriving in such circumstances

Like when he's down 3-0?

his play was mostly allin from that point. it was the right decision but if MVP was at that situation he would have switched it up.

MVP crushed stephano 4-1 using a different build every match.
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