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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 29 2013 05:13 GMT
#141
So its finally happened, all kespa finals?
starleague forever
tl2212
Profile Joined April 2013
Belize731 Posts
May 29 2013 05:20 GMT
#142
so fuckin pumped!!! this is gonna be sick!
economy over everything
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
May 29 2013 05:23 GMT
#143
On May 29 2013 12:39 BigFan wrote:
Really excited for this! Go innovation go! I feel that he deserves more recognition


Where have you been in the last months ?
He is pretty much seen by everyone as "the best player in the world", and tastless even call him "best RTS player of all times".
I don't like him, because when I watch him in TvZ he really makes it look like terran is OP.
I should play a bit more terran, because when I see him play, I have the impression that he doesn't do "incredible stuff" (the way some other top players do stuff you would have swear it doesn't work), and just solid straight up play.
So I would think his style is "easy" to copy, but right now he's pretty much the only terran with flash to execute it properly, so I guess it must be hard :D
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
dustinth
Profile Joined September 2012
China205 Posts
May 29 2013 05:33 GMT
#144
On May 29 2013 14:23 kubiks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 12:39 BigFan wrote:
Really excited for this! Go innovation go! I feel that he deserves more recognition


Where have you been in the last months ?
He is pretty much seen by everyone as "the best player in the world", and tastless even call him "best RTS player of all times".
I don't like him, because when I watch him in TvZ he really makes it look like terran is OP.
I should play a bit more terran, because when I see him play, I have the impression that he doesn't do "incredible stuff" (the way some other top players do stuff you would have swear it doesn't work), and just solid straight up play.
So I would think his style is "easy" to copy, but right now he's pretty much the only terran with flash to execute it properly, so I guess it must be hard :D


I'm sure it's hard :D
It's not about execution, it's about skill level.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
May 29 2013 07:15 GMT
#145
That countdown tag in the OP is nice

In
tabeatz
Profile Joined October 2012
United States83 Posts
May 29 2013 07:23 GMT
#146
I hope that Soulkey can make it a good series, but after seeing what Innovation did to 2 of the best Zergs in world just a week or two ago, it's hard to imagine that he won't go 4-1 or 4-2.
For the love of the game
largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 29 2013 07:39 GMT
#147
On May 29 2013 13:34 HolyArrow wrote:
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On May 29 2013 13:25 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 29 2013 13:20 HolyArrow wrote:
Lol why do people even care about where players originated from? Digging into player histories to see if they've ever even been a part of a Kespa team, no matter how utterly unsuccessful and unnotable they were in BW? First we had the BW elitist sentiment of how top BW players would simply mechanically dominate SC2 upon switching, and now that it's been seen that that hasn't been the case (top BW players like Bisu, Jaedong, Jangbi, and Fantasy are far from being top HotS players) we've moved all the way from that to simply trying to find any Kespa affiliation at all (no matter how trite) with a player's past to prove... what exactly? It just seems really pointless to me. It's like people have moved on from just cheering for either side to trying to prove that a player one side is actually a player for the other side. When it comes to that, it's time to ask yourself if it actually even matters anymore.

IDK, I like to know more about the players pasts. It wouldn't effect who I am cheering for, I already a big fan of Leenock and I will still be regardless of any Kespa affiliation.


Yeah, I agree. I'm a Squirtle fan and his Kespa affiliation changes none of that for me. Same with Parting. Huge fan when he was on ST, and still a huge fan when he moved to SKT1, not to mention SKT1 is one of my favorite teams so it all works out even more. The issue here isn't that people are curious about a player's pasts. The issue here is that people who I presume to be Kespa fans are now pointing out the minor, unnotable Kespa backgrounds of good ESF players as if it matters, because I'm sure that there have been plenty of unsuccessful ESF players with Kespa backgrounds as well.


It is all a bit funny indeed. :D
still alive
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
May 29 2013 07:41 GMT
#148
Easy for Soulkey.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
May 29 2013 07:50 GMT
#149
On May 29 2013 16:41 Glioburd wrote:
Easy for Soulkey.

Speaking really... not at all
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
May 29 2013 08:06 GMT
#150
Let me believe.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
May 29 2013 08:21 GMT
#151
I firmly believe that Soulkey has to come up with something new, a real evolution to zvt or he is going to loose

proleague spoiler
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His "aim for the eco style" doesnt even work properly against innovation as seen in the last proleague day.


I really hope its going to work!
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 29 2013 08:23 GMT
#152
On May 29 2013 17:21 Douillos wrote:
I firmly believe that Soulkey has to come up with something new, a real evolution to zvt or he is going to loose

proleague spoiler
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His "aim for the eco style" doesnt even work properly against innovation as seen in the last proleague day.


I really hope its going to work!


They're 1-1 in HotS (macro) games. I'm confident Soulkey has the ability to at least take the fight to Innovation. Whether or not he'll be able to take the series is another matter, but he should be able to take at least a game playing relatively standard macro.
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schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
May 29 2013 08:23 GMT
#153
Does Soulkey have to play agressive/all-in-ish most of the games? It was Symbols only way to get 2 wins. I don't see Innovation lose a straight up game.
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 29 2013 08:37 GMT
#154
On May 29 2013 17:23 schaf wrote:
Does Soulkey have to play agressive/all-in-ish most of the games? It was Symbols only way to get 2 wins. I don't see Innovation lose a straight up game.


He did, to Soulkey, a few weeks ago. He did win their most recent encounter yesterday however, so he might have the mental advantage, but Soulkey has certainly shown that he knows how to hang with Innovation in TvZ.
AdministratorBreak the chains
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 29 2013 08:39 GMT
#155
OP needs to add the two VODs of their recent Proleague games. People writing off Soulkey in a macro game forget that he beat Innovation (I was unimpressed with the game, actually! Yesterday's was far better) recently.
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Marshall_D
Profile Joined November 2008
United States196 Posts
May 29 2013 08:43 GMT
#156
that game was really close last night. SK took out bogus's 3rd and killed his main army. but couldnt fend off drop play after. he was more than keeping up with econ
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
May 29 2013 08:46 GMT
#157
For the last PL game they played..

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I bet no one noticed innovation never remade his supplies, so he was capped at 180 for the whole time after his 3rd fell. You can tell that despite what Innovation was doing the whole time, he still made mistakes, such as not getting a 5th base earlier (float CC).


Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
May 29 2013 08:50 GMT
#158
On May 29 2013 17:23 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 17:21 Douillos wrote:
I firmly believe that Soulkey has to come up with something new, a real evolution to zvt or he is going to loose

proleague spoiler
+ Show Spoiler +
His "aim for the eco style" doesnt even work properly against innovation as seen in the last proleague day.


I really hope its going to work!


They're 1-1 in HotS (macro) games. I'm confident Soulkey has the ability to at least take the fight to Innovation. Whether or not he'll be able to take the series is another matter, but he should be able to take at least a game playing relatively standard macro.


In no way am I saying that Soulkey should decide to go all in all the time, but I'm really hoping, especially as I play Zerg, that we are going to see something new from Soulkey. Otherwise, he will win a few battles, but will loose the war.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19302 Posts
May 29 2013 20:38 GMT
#159
Soulkey = free LB points. You guys have all been blinded by the HYPE glasses!

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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
May 29 2013 20:50 GMT
#160
On May 29 2013 16:41 Glioburd wrote:
Easy for Soulkey.

The hope is strong in this one.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
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