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On June 01 2013 18:19 tastyminerals wrote:
SK is clearly a worse player than Innovation, but that will be argued by any forum hero especially now.
I doubt that anyone thought SK was the favourite before the finals.
Still games were not entertaining, I'm happy for SK though, guess I wanted him to win, just not in this kind of fashion.
stop trollin dawg.
Innovation has one major strength: he doesn't make mistakes. Tonight, he made mistakes.
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On June 01 2013 18:22 GTPGlitch wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:19 AyMnRSC2 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:17 aNGryaRchon wrote:On June 01 2013 18:14 AyMnRSC2 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:09 TimENT wrote:I can't get over how bad that was. Game 1: 2rax with terrible defense (yawn) Game 2: roach/hydra timing (only close game) Game 3: failed baneling allin (yawn) Game 4: successful roach bane allin (yawn) Game 5: successful roach band allin (yawn) Game 6: failed 2rax (yawn) Game 7: terrible macro game with terrible mistakes (yawn) I dont even care about which player won. This is motherfucking TvZ. The best game had fucking roaches and hydras. What the hell happened? That was just sad  Worst finals ever. Worst series ever. Disgusting. Actually, the best game was game 7. Innovation just got out multitasked. It was a lot of fun to watch. oumultitask? are you retarded? how can you multitask if you lost like 90% or your units! game 7 was the worst in the series. You are 100% correct. It was much worse than watching the failed 2rax in game 6. I think that you are just mad because innovation lost. Get over it please. lol yeah it was really entertaining watching soulkey kill an unrepaired command center and seeing a 3 medivac drop beforehand and then killing it with mutas, the display of skill was crazy....
Soulkey did to innovation in G7 what Innovation has been doing to Zergs since HOTS release.
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any Terran crying about balance should be ashamed... Soulkey HAD to roach bane to get wins, which can be completely shut down with a tank or more bunkers. Inoovation played greedy in games that were obviously going to be all-ins from zerg...
Artosis and tasteless are calling the last game a "true display of skill in a real macro game"... Not really.. Innovation let 2 medivacs die to 1 spore and then flew 3 full medicavs into a flock of mutas...
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Eventhough it's just WCS EU but Mvp is the only terran who actually win something big.
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On June 01 2013 18:21 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:20 ProTech wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 Big J wrote:On June 01 2013 18:14 AyMnRSC2 wrote:On June 01 2013 18:09 TimENT wrote:I can't get over how bad that was. Game 1: 2rax with terrible defense (yawn) Game 2: roach/hydra timing (only close game) Game 3: failed baneling allin (yawn) Game 4: successful roach bane allin (yawn) Game 5: successful roach band allin (yawn) Game 6: failed 2rax (yawn) Game 7: terrible macro game with terrible mistakes (yawn) I dont even care about which player won. This is motherfucking TvZ. The best game had fucking roaches and hydras. What the hell happened? That was just sad Worst finals ever. Worst series ever. Disgusting. Actually, the best game was game 7. Innovation just got out multitasked. It was a lot of fun to watch. lol. hellbat drops, getting defelected. Innovation behind, tries to make up for it with a big drop. Flies through mutas. That's it. Nearly any WCS EU TvZ was better to watch. If the highest level of TvZ is cheese and cheese only, like we have seen this GSL (like, go through the LR threads. The macro games were 2x Life vs Innovation, 1 Roro vs Innovation, 1x Symbol vs Innovation. Basically every other series was a cheesefest), then I think we can only hope for some PvPs... lol Awful post, the games were good. Back and forth, you can't ask for much more than a game 7. Also, there's thousands of dollars on the line for these players, the last thing they're thinking about is your entertainment. That being said, take what you can get and enjoy watching the best players in the world, stop griping. These games were most certainly not good. ^^
Really? How about putting yourself in their shoes, have you ever played in front of thousands of people, not to mention on TV? Nerves play a roll, and peoples mindsets are different. Sorry you couldn't enjoy it to the fullest, but the games were good with everything considered.
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On June 01 2013 18:18 DustbinBieber wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:17 Dodgin wrote:On June 01 2013 18:14 tastyminerals wrote:
Very interesting finals, not gamewise of course.
3-0 stomp without any sign of coming back for SK and then, out of a sudden 4-3 with some really shitty play by Innovation and him standing smiling on the stage as if nothing extraordinary has happened. I don't know why didn't anyone, just a single person in this thread had an idea that somebody wanted really hard to make these finals entertaining.
The only possible explanation that Innovation simply underestimated SK, but then again, why was he so calm? It was definitely odd how not upset Bogus acted after he lost the 7th game, maybe he was just in shock. Or maybe he knows he's still a freaking beast and is somewhat happy that Soulkey won (seeing how much it means to him)
I saw two people on the stage and if I didn't know the final score I would think that Innovation had won, so content and relieved he was.
And that only blind could not notice, charity donation by Bogus, guess he knows what he's doing.
User was banned for this post.
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On June 01 2013 18:20 Kerence wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:18 Sewi wrote:On June 01 2013 18:16 Jay Arell wrote:
Dont understand why innovation went for the 3 medivac drop :O he was doing great until he gave away those units Had he not lost the 3 medivacs and sucessfully droped his units, it might have been a game winning move. But his Viking was shooting at the mutas in that same area just a bit earlier. When I saw him flying straight through there I was just scratching my head.
I think he guessed that the mutas, after killing the viking, went straight for Innovation's main base. With the drop he could have a) prevented his main from being attacked aka force mutas to fly back home, or b) kill everything in Zergs main.
But I agree that this move was a bit yolo, especially in a deciding match.
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On June 01 2013 18:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:20 Targe wrote:On June 01 2013 18:20 balosan wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 Mouzone wrote:On June 01 2013 18:18 Dvriel wrote:On June 01 2013 18:15 Mouzone wrote:
Wonder how long it will take before we see a P champion again. Last Protoss Champion was Seed, right after MVP. Now we got 4 Zergs Champions in a row in Korea.The last time Z didnt reach the finals there was PvP to watch.... Yeah but the T's and Z's just look overwhelmingly strong in comparison to the P's. Did you watch any proleague ? Where the most wins are being fought between Flash and Bogus? Flash and rain.
yup, Flash and Rain are on tears in Proleague it's insane. Bogus is bogus man.
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On June 01 2013 18:20 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:20 balosan wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 Mouzone wrote:On June 01 2013 18:18 Dvriel wrote:On June 01 2013 18:15 Mouzone wrote:
Wonder how long it will take before we see a P champion again. Last Protoss Champion was Seed, right after MVP. Now we got 4 Zergs Champions in a row in Korea.The last time Z didnt reach the finals there was PvP to watch.... Yeah but the T's and Z's just look overwhelmingly strong in comparison to the P's. Did you watch any proleague ? Where the most wins are being fought between Flash and Bogus?
Flash and Bogus definitely make up all of the Terrans in KeSPA
yep
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On June 01 2013 18:22 Xpace wrote:
MMA vs DongRaeGu was leagues ahead of this. Leagues.
And Jjakji Leenock. Idra v MMA was better too. And fruitdealer v rainbow. And my diamond level TvZs
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What an impressive display of strength of will from Soulkey. My bet was on Soulkey winning 4-3, but I didn't expect the series to go down that way. I expected more of the game 7-type games: Innovation opening harass-ish, Soulkey defending well and pulling apart Innovation. But in the end Soulkey did what he had to win (and exploited what weakness he thought Innovation had, cf his interview).
Beautiful finals, even if not-so-beautiful games.
I like scrubs on the forum who are like "those players are terrible", "what a throw" and whatnot. Show some respect, please.
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This game is a businness. It would be nice if some kind of "best win of the series" trophy existed Could motivate players to not cheese or all in so much.
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Looks like the gsl casters knew what was up.
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On June 01 2013 18:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:20 Targe wrote:On June 01 2013 18:20 balosan wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 Mouzone wrote:On June 01 2013 18:18 Dvriel wrote:On June 01 2013 18:15 Mouzone wrote:
Wonder how long it will take before we see a P champion again. Last Protoss Champion was Seed, right after MVP. Now we got 4 Zergs Champions in a row in Korea.The last time Z didnt reach the finals there was PvP to watch.... Yeah but the T's and Z's just look overwhelmingly strong in comparison to the P's. Did you watch any proleague ? Where the most wins are being fought between Flash and Bogus? Flash and rain.
Oh lol, my apologies then 
On June 01 2013 18:22 balosan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:20 Targe wrote:On June 01 2013 18:20 balosan wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 Mouzone wrote:On June 01 2013 18:18 Dvriel wrote:On June 01 2013 18:15 Mouzone wrote:
Wonder how long it will take before we see a P champion again. Last Protoss Champion was Seed, right after MVP. Now we got 4 Zergs Champions in a row in Korea.The last time Z didnt reach the finals there was PvP to watch.... Yeah but the T's and Z's just look overwhelmingly strong in comparison to the P's. Did you watch any proleague ? Where the most wins are being fought between Flash and Bogus? Check win ratios and statistics before whining about balance please, its ridiculous how ppl easily jump into concusion based on results of few dominatinig players or finals of big tourneys.
I'm not whining about balance? I'm Terran anyway, I couldn't give less of a shit if Flash and Bogus were stomping all.
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On June 01 2013 18:23 tastyminerals wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:18 DustbinBieber wrote:On June 01 2013 18:17 Dodgin wrote:On June 01 2013 18:14 tastyminerals wrote:
Very interesting finals, not gamewise of course.
3-0 stomp without any sign of coming back for SK and then, out of a sudden 4-3 with some really shitty play by Innovation and him standing smiling on the stage as if nothing extraordinary has happened. I don't know why didn't anyone, just a single person in this thread had an idea that somebody wanted really hard to make these finals entertaining.
The only possible explanation that Innovation simply underestimated SK, but then again, why was he so calm? It was definitely odd how not upset Bogus acted after he lost the 7th game, maybe he was just in shock. Or maybe he knows he's still a freaking beast and is somewhat happy that Soulkey won (seeing how much it means to him) I saw two people on the stage and if I didn't know the final score I would think that Innovation had won, so content and relieved he was. And that only blind could not notice, charity donation by Bogus, guess he knows what he's doing.
hahahahahahaha, you cant be serious??
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On June 01 2013 18:22 Xpace wrote:
MMA vs DongRaeGu was leagues ahead of this. Leagues.
Yet the skill level is supposed to go up, no?
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On June 01 2013 18:24 ymir233 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2013 18:20 Targe wrote:On June 01 2013 18:20 balosan wrote:On June 01 2013 18:19 Mouzone wrote:On June 01 2013 18:18 Dvriel wrote:On June 01 2013 18:15 Mouzone wrote:
Wonder how long it will take before we see a P champion again. Last Protoss Champion was Seed, right after MVP. Now we got 4 Zergs Champions in a row in Korea.The last time Z didnt reach the finals there was PvP to watch.... Yeah but the T's and Z's just look overwhelmingly strong in comparison to the P's. Did you watch any proleague ? Where the most wins are being fought between Flash and Bogus? Flash and Bogus definitely make up all of the Terrans in KeSPA yep
lol eveyone has jumped on that post, I'm just pointing out that it's not best to say Toss is amazing just cause of SPL.
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With so many chokes i rly do believe Mvp will win the season finale haha
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On June 01 2013 17:52 hagrin wrote:
HE DID IT! FINISH ME OFF! IM CUMMMMMMMMMMMMING!
ROFL I just saw this post wtf
went back through the thread to read the game 7 reactions
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