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Flash confirmed for SK's training partner. Wonder whos Bogus practicing with.
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On May 31 2013 17:34 Daswollvieh wrote:
I suppose, Innophant would be too obvious. But it has a nice ring to it.
That's far better than any other option. Hilarious.
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Go terran. Time for a terran winner, it has been a while.
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On May 31 2013 15:45 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 15:43 VManOfMana wrote:On May 31 2013 12:29 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:26 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 12:25 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:14 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 11:23 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 07:57 silentsaint wrote:On May 31 2013 07:38 figq wrote:
Last season Kespa player wins Code S, people are like oh, there's no Kespa invasion it's fine etc.
This season two Kespa players are in the grand final. OMG, these wild blablablabla Stop baiting. Its boring. Hilarious how far some people will go right? Everyone is having a great time hyping the finals. Everyone wants it to be amazing. No need to stir some shit up I'm afraid you totally misunderstand my point. Actually in the same post I make two very different points and you probably think they are related. My first point is about Kespa players and how strong they turned out to be in SC2, despite so many many doubters for many months and years, while everyone was neglecting the potential of these guys in the BW leagues. I'm totally happy now that the Kespa players have proven themselves to be very strong! My second point has nothing to do with that. It's just my personal impression of the personalities of Bogus and Soulkey, who have been known to be very well prepared players for a long time (even in BW) and yet in individual leagues I think they fail to deliver their full potential, so I expect them to both struggle in the final too. And I will nevertheless enjoy it, as I expect my Soulkey to prevail! What? Everyone has always expected Kespa to become stronger -_-'' sure, sure now everyone says that but it was absolutely not true before Of course it was. The only debate was whether or not it would be immediate (it was not) and whether Esf pros would remain relevant (more or less yes, but less so). You can't ignore the whole lot of posters who would take a KeSPA player's loss as an opportunity to argue against the Elephant article. Especially on Reddit. elephant article was incredibly stupid
Well, in the end it really wasn't.All competition up to now has been farce (I know right?). All your base are belong to us.
+ Show Spoiler +Where is MC and Nestea? Where is the wins that were coming? They have passed unlike rain in the proleague, unlike Innovation in the GSL. The days have gone down in the ESF behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?
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On May 31 2013 19:14 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 15:45 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 15:43 VManOfMana wrote:On May 31 2013 12:29 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:26 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 12:25 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:14 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 11:23 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 07:57 silentsaint wrote:On May 31 2013 07:38 figq wrote:
Last season Kespa player wins Code S, people are like oh, there's no Kespa invasion it's fine etc.
This season two Kespa players are in the grand final. OMG, these wild blablablabla Stop baiting. Its boring. Hilarious how far some people will go right? Everyone is having a great time hyping the finals. Everyone wants it to be amazing. No need to stir some shit up I'm afraid you totally misunderstand my point. Actually in the same post I make two very different points and you probably think they are related. My first point is about Kespa players and how strong they turned out to be in SC2, despite so many many doubters for many months and years, while everyone was neglecting the potential of these guys in the BW leagues. I'm totally happy now that the Kespa players have proven themselves to be very strong! My second point has nothing to do with that. It's just my personal impression of the personalities of Bogus and Soulkey, who have been known to be very well prepared players for a long time (even in BW) and yet in individual leagues I think they fail to deliver their full potential, so I expect them to both struggle in the final too. And I will nevertheless enjoy it, as I expect my Soulkey to prevail! What? Everyone has always expected Kespa to become stronger -_-'' sure, sure now everyone says that but it was absolutely not true before Of course it was. The only debate was whether or not it would be immediate (it was not) and whether Esf pros would remain relevant (more or less yes, but less so). You can't ignore the whole lot of posters who would take a KeSPA player's loss as an opportunity to argue against the Elephant article. Especially on Reddit. elephant article was incredibly stupid Well, in the end it really wasn't. All competition up to now has been farce (I know right?). All your base are belong to us.
? The article was talking about the big BW names like TBLS + Fantasy / Jangbi. Only Flash has sort of lived up to the hype.
Bisu on the other hand... T_T
No one thought that KeSPA players would be irrelevant. If 80 good koreans switch then of course some of them are going to be relevant. But the article wasn't about Bogus, Rain, Roro or sOs. And they are the ones who made it.
And KeSPA players didn't have to "catch up" since HotS was released and pretty much reset everything.
Anyway on topic. I hope Soulkey shows some really easy innovative way to deal with widow mines, making all zergs go "ooh so obvious, why haven't we done that?". Because that would help me a lot.
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On May 31 2013 19:14 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 15:45 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 15:43 VManOfMana wrote:On May 31 2013 12:29 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:26 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 12:25 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:14 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 11:23 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 07:57 silentsaint wrote:On May 31 2013 07:38 figq wrote:
Last season Kespa player wins Code S, people are like oh, there's no Kespa invasion it's fine etc.
This season two Kespa players are in the grand final. OMG, these wild blablablabla Stop baiting. Its boring. Hilarious how far some people will go right? Everyone is having a great time hyping the finals. Everyone wants it to be amazing. No need to stir some shit up I'm afraid you totally misunderstand my point. Actually in the same post I make two very different points and you probably think they are related. My first point is about Kespa players and how strong they turned out to be in SC2, despite so many many doubters for many months and years, while everyone was neglecting the potential of these guys in the BW leagues. I'm totally happy now that the Kespa players have proven themselves to be very strong! My second point has nothing to do with that. It's just my personal impression of the personalities of Bogus and Soulkey, who have been known to be very well prepared players for a long time (even in BW) and yet in individual leagues I think they fail to deliver their full potential, so I expect them to both struggle in the final too. And I will nevertheless enjoy it, as I expect my Soulkey to prevail! What? Everyone has always expected Kespa to become stronger -_-'' sure, sure now everyone says that but it was absolutely not true before Of course it was. The only debate was whether or not it would be immediate (it was not) and whether Esf pros would remain relevant (more or less yes, but less so). You can't ignore the whole lot of posters who would take a KeSPA player's loss as an opportunity to argue against the Elephant article. Especially on Reddit. elephant article was incredibly stupid Well, in the end it really wasn't.All competition up to now has been farce (I know right?). All your base are belong to us. + Show Spoiler +
Where is MC and Nestea? Where is the wins that were coming? They have passed unlike rain in the proleague, unlike Innovation in the GSL. The days have gone down in the ESF behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?
i find this post also incredibly stupid
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On May 31 2013 19:26 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 19:14 NightOfTheDead wrote:On May 31 2013 15:45 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 15:43 VManOfMana wrote:On May 31 2013 12:29 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:26 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 12:25 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:14 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 11:23 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 07:57 silentsaint wrote:
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Stop baiting. Its boring. Hilarious how far some people will go right? Everyone is having a great time hyping the finals. Everyone wants it to be amazing. No need to stir some shit up I'm afraid you totally misunderstand my point. Actually in the same post I make two very different points and you probably think they are related. My first point is about Kespa players and how strong they turned out to be in SC2, despite so many many doubters for many months and years, while everyone was neglecting the potential of these guys in the BW leagues. I'm totally happy now that the Kespa players have proven themselves to be very strong! My second point has nothing to do with that. It's just my personal impression of the personalities of Bogus and Soulkey, who have been known to be very well prepared players for a long time (even in BW) and yet in individual leagues I think they fail to deliver their full potential, so I expect them to both struggle in the final too. And I will nevertheless enjoy it, as I expect my Soulkey to prevail! What? Everyone has always expected Kespa to become stronger -_-'' sure, sure now everyone says that but it was absolutely not true before Of course it was. The only debate was whether or not it would be immediate (it was not) and whether Esf pros would remain relevant (more or less yes, but less so). You can't ignore the whole lot of posters who would take a KeSPA player's loss as an opportunity to argue against the Elephant article. Especially on Reddit. elephant article was incredibly stupid Well, in the end it really wasn't.All competition up to now has been farce (I know right?). All your base are belong to us. + Show Spoiler +
Where is MC and Nestea? Where is the wins that were coming? They have passed unlike rain in the proleague, unlike Innovation in the GSL. The days have gone down in the ESF behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?
i find this post also incredibly stupid
Sure you do. But it doesn't deny the fact that Kespa players are doing extremely well, therefore, the article wasn't 'stupid'. It had its' share of theorycrafting, but it was a fun article and you don't need to be so serious all the time.
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On May 31 2013 19:32 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 19:26 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 19:14 NightOfTheDead wrote:On May 31 2013 15:45 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 15:43 VManOfMana wrote:On May 31 2013 12:29 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:26 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 12:25 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:14 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 11:23 lichter wrote:
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Hilarious how far some people will go right?
Everyone is having a great time hyping the finals. Everyone wants it to be amazing. No need to stir some shit up I'm afraid you totally misunderstand my point. Actually in the same post I make two very different points and you probably think they are related. My first point is about Kespa players and how strong they turned out to be in SC2, despite so many many doubters for many months and years, while everyone was neglecting the potential of these guys in the BW leagues. I'm totally happy now that the Kespa players have proven themselves to be very strong! My second point has nothing to do with that. It's just my personal impression of the personalities of Bogus and Soulkey, who have been known to be very well prepared players for a long time (even in BW) and yet in individual leagues I think they fail to deliver their full potential, so I expect them to both struggle in the final too. And I will nevertheless enjoy it, as I expect my Soulkey to prevail! What? Everyone has always expected Kespa to become stronger -_-'' sure, sure now everyone says that but it was absolutely not true before Of course it was. The only debate was whether or not it would be immediate (it was not) and whether Esf pros would remain relevant (more or less yes, but less so). You can't ignore the whole lot of posters who would take a KeSPA player's loss as an opportunity to argue against the Elephant article. Especially on Reddit. elephant article was incredibly stupid Well, in the end it really wasn't.All competition up to now has been farce (I know right?). All your base are belong to us. + Show Spoiler +
Where is MC and Nestea? Where is the wins that were coming? They have passed unlike rain in the proleague, unlike Innovation in the GSL. The days have gone down in the ESF behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?
i find this post also incredibly stupid Sure you do. But it doesn't deny the fact that Kespa players are doing extremely well, therefore, the article wasn't 'stupid'. It had its' share of theorycrafting, but it was a fun article and you don't need to be so serious all the time.
a "fun" article sure spawned a lot of hate and elitism, such that kespa vs. esf trolling is looked down as much as caster bashing or balance whining
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On May 31 2013 19:34 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 19:32 NightOfTheDead wrote:On May 31 2013 19:26 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 19:14 NightOfTheDead wrote:On May 31 2013 15:45 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 15:43 VManOfMana wrote:On May 31 2013 12:29 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:26 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 12:25 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:14 figq wrote:
[quote]I'm afraid you totally misunderstand my point. Actually in the same post I make two very different points and you probably think they are related.
My first point is about Kespa players and how strong they turned out to be in SC2, despite so many many doubters for many months and years, while everyone was neglecting the potential of these guys in the BW leagues. I'm totally happy now that the Kespa players have proven themselves to be very strong!
My second point has nothing to do with that. It's just my personal impression of the personalities of Bogus and Soulkey, who have been known to be very well prepared players for a long time (even in BW) and yet in individual leagues I think they fail to deliver their full potential, so I expect them to both struggle in the final too. And I will nevertheless enjoy it, as I expect my Soulkey to prevail!
What? Everyone has always expected Kespa to become stronger -_-'' sure, sure now everyone says that but it was absolutely not true before Of course it was. The only debate was whether or not it would be immediate (it was not) and whether Esf pros would remain relevant (more or less yes, but less so). You can't ignore the whole lot of posters who would take a KeSPA player's loss as an opportunity to argue against the Elephant article. Especially on Reddit. elephant article was incredibly stupid Well, in the end it really wasn't.All competition up to now has been farce (I know right?). All your base are belong to us. + Show Spoiler +
Where is MC and Nestea? Where is the wins that were coming? They have passed unlike rain in the proleague, unlike Innovation in the GSL. The days have gone down in the ESF behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?
i find this post also incredibly stupid Sure you do. But it doesn't deny the fact that Kespa players are doing extremely well, therefore, the article wasn't 'stupid'. It had its' share of theorycrafting, but it was a fun article and you don't need to be so serious all the time. a "fun" article sure spawned a lot of hate and elitism, such that kespa vs. esf trolling is looked down as much as caster bashing or balance whining
Personally for me it adds additional flavor, and is the completely the same as fans supporting their teams or players, arguing which is better and why. Apart from personal bashing or attacks, it is just another 'choose your side' perspective. Trolling and elitism may be more prevalent, I agree, but topic itself doesn't deserve to be banned.
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On May 31 2013 19:43 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 19:34 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 19:32 NightOfTheDead wrote:On May 31 2013 19:26 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 19:14 NightOfTheDead wrote:On May 31 2013 15:45 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 15:43 VManOfMana wrote:On May 31 2013 12:29 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:26 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 12:25 lichter wrote:
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What? Everyone has always expected Kespa to become stronger -_-'' sure, sure now everyone says that but it was absolutely not true before Of course it was. The only debate was whether or not it would be immediate (it was not) and whether Esf pros would remain relevant (more or less yes, but less so). You can't ignore the whole lot of posters who would take a KeSPA player's loss as an opportunity to argue against the Elephant article. Especially on Reddit. elephant article was incredibly stupid Well, in the end it really wasn't.All competition up to now has been farce (I know right?). All your base are belong to us. + Show Spoiler +
Where is MC and Nestea? Where is the wins that were coming? They have passed unlike rain in the proleague, unlike Innovation in the GSL. The days have gone down in the ESF behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?
i find this post also incredibly stupid Sure you do. But it doesn't deny the fact that Kespa players are doing extremely well, therefore, the article wasn't 'stupid'. It had its' share of theorycrafting, but it was a fun article and you don't need to be so serious all the time. a "fun" article sure spawned a lot of hate and elitism, such that kespa vs. esf trolling is looked down as much as caster bashing or balance whining Personally for me it adds additional flavor, and is the completely the same as fans supporting their teams or players, arguing which is better and why. Apart from personal bashing or attacks, it is just another 'choose your side' perspective. Trolling and elitism may be more prevalent, I agree, but topic itself doesn't deserve to be banned.
of course the topic is okay, but your post writes things like "all competition up to now has been farce" (and some other things that particular people write) is not on. i know you edited your post to make it seem a bit more in jest but in essence it's still baiting.
i guess it's okay to go KESPAA after they win, but not okay to bash esf players or bait their fais
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On May 31 2013 19:43 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2013 19:34 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 19:32 NightOfTheDead wrote:On May 31 2013 19:26 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 19:14 NightOfTheDead wrote:On May 31 2013 15:45 opterown wrote:On May 31 2013 15:43 VManOfMana wrote:On May 31 2013 12:29 lichter wrote:On May 31 2013 12:26 figq wrote:On May 31 2013 12:25 lichter wrote:
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What? Everyone has always expected Kespa to become stronger -_-'' sure, sure now everyone says that but it was absolutely not true before Of course it was. The only debate was whether or not it would be immediate (it was not) and whether Esf pros would remain relevant (more or less yes, but less so). You can't ignore the whole lot of posters who would take a KeSPA player's loss as an opportunity to argue against the Elephant article. Especially on Reddit. elephant article was incredibly stupid Well, in the end it really wasn't.All competition up to now has been farce (I know right?). All your base are belong to us. + Show Spoiler +
Where is MC and Nestea? Where is the wins that were coming? They have passed unlike rain in the proleague, unlike Innovation in the GSL. The days have gone down in the ESF behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?
i find this post also incredibly stupid Sure you do. But it doesn't deny the fact that Kespa players are doing extremely well, therefore, the article wasn't 'stupid'. It had its' share of theorycrafting, but it was a fun article and you don't need to be so serious all the time. a "fun" article sure spawned a lot of hate and elitism, such that kespa vs. esf trolling is looked down as much as caster bashing or balance whining Personally for me it adds additional flavor, and is the completely the same as fans supporting their teams or players, arguing which is better and why. Apart from personal bashing or attacks, it is just another 'choose your side' perspective. Trolling and elitism may be more prevalent, I agree, but topic itself doesn't deserve to be banned.
When people support teams and players, it's very rare for them be be elitist about it, or post pathetic attempts at flame baiting. There's a reason talking about being fans of teams and players doesn't get people banned.
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I hope we get good games. I really wanted Bomber in the semi finals. The entertainment of a Ro4 vs Innovation would be insane, and then it would finish with the greatest matchup. I'd even enjoy Innovation's presence here more.
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*read about Flash helping Soulkey*
I predict Soulkey will win 4-0.
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You do realize that the article stated that ALL competitors in GSL were inferior. Basiccally GSL as we knew it was some sort of kiddy league were the children were having fun till the KESPA players would swoop in and completely destroy them.
The article used Flash as prime example, but was indicating that Jaedong and that Protoss player, which name I don't even remember right now, were going to revolutionize and utterly destroy the GSL children.
Which is not happening.
Furthermore, the article claimed that we, SCII fans, were basically wasting our time watching the farce that is GSL and all the players playing in GSL were terrible rts players:
These guys weren’t average. They weren’t almost average. They were bad.
Anyway, I will not waste too much time on this. Because out of the multiple thousand people posting here the big majority can see why the "elephant in the room" article was a piece of garbage suitable in a magazine next to stories about Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian and Ke$ha.
I suggest that people read the article again. If you think it was about Kespa players going to be eventually really fucking good players, you should read again. That wasn't the hush-hush secret because the smart people were already saying/thinking that.
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Flash trainning partner > Hyvva trainning partner
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On May 31 2013 20:00 Koshi wrote:You do realize that the article stated that ALL competitors in GSL were inferior. Basiccally GSL as we knew it was some sort of kiddy league were the children were having fun till the KESPA players would swoop in and completely destroy them. The article used Flash as prime example, but was indicating that Jaedong and that Protoss player, which name I don't even remember right now, were going to revolutionize and utterly destroy the GSL children. Which is not happening. Furthermore, the article claimed that we, SCII fans, were basically wasting our time watching the farce that is GSL and all the players playing in GSL were terrible rts players: Anyway, I will not waste too much time on this. Because out of the multiple thousand people posting here the big majority can see why the "elephant in the room" article was a piece of garbage suitable in a magazine next to stories about Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian and Ke$ha. I suggest that people read the article again. If you think it was about Kespa players going to be eventually really fucking good players, you should read again. That wasn't the hush-hush secret because the smart people were already saying/thinking that.
That's the greatest article in TL history.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On May 31 2013 20:11 Waxangel wrote:
okay you can stop now D:
Why does it keep popping up when there are more important matters to be determined:
Poll: What animal is Innovation?Walruvation (10) 27% Innovashark (8) 22% Innohipoppotamus (6) 16% InnoBeartion (6) 16% Other (4) 11% Lionvation (2) 5% Foxivation (1) 3% Tigervation (0) 0% 37 total votes Your vote: What animal is Innovation? (Vote): Lionvation
(Vote): Tigervation
(Vote): Innohipoppotamus
(Vote): Foxivation
(Vote): InnoBeartion
(Vote): Innovashark
(Vote): Walruvation
(Vote): Other
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I can't pick an animal. :o They are all so good.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On May 31 2013 20:26 Kasaraki wrote:
I can't pick an animal. :o They are all so good.
The right choice is Walruvation
Or Innohipoppotamus if you wanna be like opty
Also note that the hipo is one of the most dangerous animals in nature
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