EPT[WCS EU] Challenger League Bracket Stage - Page 39
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Acertos
France852 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Saat
France65 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:20 Greendotz wrote: Goswser as well, although did they pick him up before or after he went beast mode in Iron Squid 2? Was just after. But yes, i forgot him and Huk. But for him, i don't think he proves himself too much, so i did not put him in the "great talents". | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:29 Saat wrote: Was just after. But yes, i forgot him and Huk. But for him, i don't think he proves himself too much, so i did not put him in the "great talents". if i'm not mistaken, huk won an mlg under millenium's color ? it's huge | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:17 Saat wrote: Hasu has a better career on SC2. Hasu may win this bo3. But honnestly, i follow Dayshi a lot, and for the last 3 months, he showed a lot of potential. I'm pretty sure in few months he will be a very top foreigner. Millenium is really great for finding great talents (Stephano, Feast, Dayshi...) Anyway, he is still a little weak against toss all in. Edit : And he had the game for a long time. He was sure of that Hasu couldn't expand, he trades cheap gaz units agaisnt expansive gaz units, he made Hasu used his energy on his sentries, he built his 3rd... He was definitely ahead, and with the reinforcement, he had win anyway even with the 2-2 i guess. You forgot Huk! And that's why I'm a Mil fan they so good at producing really great players. And yea Dayshi really making a name for himself l8tly | ||
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
 That means the deciding games tomorrow will be: + Show Spoiler + | ||
SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
HasuObs on the other hand is a well known player with a long career with good results, but he did not break the line, which separates most foreigners from the very top foreigners. Also it's most unlikely he will do so in the future. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:30 Makro wrote: if i'm not mistaken, huk won an mlg under millenium's color ? it's huge I think he was talking about Goswser; but yes, HuK won his first MLG with Mill AFAIK. GG Dayshi, you played better today, at least Hasu took more maps than the entire Quantic. Now Goody has to win todays ESET, otherwise it´s a pretty sad day for me. | ||
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Saat
France65 Posts
Huk may be pretty bad nowadays, i think he had prove himself enough during his whole career. Gowser, i'm not sure. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:33 Xoronius wrote: I think he was talking about Goswser; but yes, HuK won his first MLG with Mill AFAIK. GG Dayshi, you played better today, at least Hasu took more maps than the entire Quantic. Now Goody has to win todays ESET, otherwise it´s a pretty sad day for me. my bad | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:30 Makro wrote: if i'm not mistaken, huk won an mlg under millenium's color ? it's huge Yes, the very first one. To be honest, the level wasn't the same that it is nowadays. 1 - HuK 2 - KiWiKaKi 3 - Socke 4 - LastShadow | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:34 Boucot wrote: Yes, the very first one. To be honest, the level wasn't the same that it is nowadays. 1 - HuK 2 - KiWiKaKi 3 - Socke 4 - LastShadow Still an MLG win | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
Of course, one of, if not the biggest tournament at the time.  | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
Bunny>MMA Dayshi<Strelok Ret<Vortix Shuttle<SaSe Bly<Feast Tod<Thorzain Grubby>Nerchio Tefel<Naniwa | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:32 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Dayshi seems pretty solid. He even might become a top EU Terran foreigner along with Lucifron. HasuObs on the other hand is a well known player with a long career with good results, but he did not break the line, which separates most foreigners from the very top foreigners. Also it's most unlikely he will do so in the future. Hasu is just ultra-solid. He was relevant in 2010, before Life, Leenock, Gumiho, JJakji, MMA or DRG came up, he is more relevant than Trickster/San/Inca/anypro/TOP/Maka/Fruitdealer/Boxer now (current state of the game, ofc. Fruitdealer is the first GSL champion and thus an icon of SC) and in two years he will probably be more relevant than Nestea, Jjakji or Sniper. That´s the one thing, foreigners have on their side; their careers are usually longer in a good state, players who were good in the beta (for example Hasu, Socke, Dimaga, Lucifron...) are still good now. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:41 Xoronius wrote: Hasu is just ultra-solid. He was relevant in 2010, before Life, Leenock, Gumiho, JJakji, MMA or DRG came up, he is more relevant than Trickster/San/Inca/anypro/TOP/Maka/Fruitdealer/Boxer now (current state of the game, ofc. Fruitdealer is the first GSL champion and thus an icon of SC) and in two years he will probably be more relevant than Nestea, Jjakji or Sniper. That´s the one thing, foreigners have on their side; their careers are usually longer in a good state, players who were good in the beta (for example Hasu, Socke, Dimaga, Lucifron...) are still good now. no. difference is their comparisons/competition. Nestea constantly plays against the top 50 players in the world. Hasu doesnt have to play any of them. Europeans/NA/all foreign players stay relevant because they dominate a weaker scene. If they played where Nestea, Jjakji, Sniper all play, it would be the exact same for them. they would get stuck in the crowd of excellent players without any real note. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:46 MaestroSC wrote: no. difference is their comparisons/competition. Nestea constantly plays against the top 50 players in the world. Hasu doesnt have to play any of them. Europeans/NA/all foreign players stay relevant because they dominate a weaker scene. If they played where Nestea, Jjakji, Sniper all play, it would be the exact same for them. they would get stuck in the crowd of excellent players without any real note. To an extend this is certainly true, but let me just post the top 16 of GSL 1: Fruitdealer, Rainbow, Ensnare, Liveforever, Maka, Trickster, Inca, HongUn, Nettie, Legalmind, TOP, San, Hyperdub, Check, anypro, Clide. Would you bet money on any of them against Dimaga, Hasu, MaNa or Lucifron? Like I said, the guys you mentioned (Nestea, Sniper, Jjakji) are future possibilities, atm. I still see them on a pretty high level. | ||
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:23 Shellshock1122 wrote: Mr. Bitter and Nathanias should do a cast together totally | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:51 Xoronius wrote: To an extend this is certainly true, but let me just post the top 16 of GSL 1: Fruitdealer, Rainbow, Ensnare, Liveforever, Maka, Trickster, Inca, HongUn, Nettie, Legalmind, TOP, San, Hyperdub, Check, anypro, Clide. Would you bet money on any of them against Dimaga, Hasu, MaNa or Lucifron? Like I said, the guys you mentioned (Nestea, Sniper, Jjakji) are future possibilities, atm. I still see them on a pretty high level. There's a reason they all gave up and retired. If they played in a weaker scene where they could continue to remain competitive and earn money, they may have continued to practice. | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On May 23 2013 05:51 Xoronius wrote: To an extend this is certainly true, but let me just post the top 16 of GSL 1: Fruitdealer, Rainbow, Ensnare, Liveforever, Maka, Trickster, Inca, HongUn, Nettie, Legalmind, TOP, San, Hyperdub, Check, anypro, Clide. Would you bet money on any of them against Dimaga, Hasu, MaNa or Lucifron? Like I said, the guys you mentioned (Nestea, Sniper, Jjakji) are future possibilities, atm. I still see them on a pretty high level. I know you're just trying to make a point but if these were real bets I'd probably take San over Dimaga, Hasu, and Mana. not Lucifron though. | ||
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