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suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
May 06 2013 23:31 GMT
#581
On May 07 2013 08:29 TheButtonmen wrote:
It can only go up from here.

HelloKitty already hit maximum foreigner game 1, there's no going fuller foreigner.


there are no absolutes in how hard you can go foreigner

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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
May 06 2013 23:32 GMT
#582
Shamtoo GG. I heard nothing stupid or incorrect game related. Axslav is getting great time to tell us dat analysis. Missing a little more comboing in the cast. Questions ++ are awesome.
The Bomber boy
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
May 06 2013 23:32 GMT
#583
On May 07 2013 08:19 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 08:15 heartagram wrote:
On May 07 2013 08:12 vult wrote:
On May 07 2013 08:09 heartagram wrote:
Did he really dance? I'm trying my best to support the NA scene, despite how hard it is to watch WCS NA sometimes, and stuff like that makes me not want to continue to watch anymore. That was a terrible game, with both players playing like they were in masters. There are no bragging rights to be had... Heart was cross server ffs.

One should be mad at himself after a game like that, not proud.


Stop the cross-server whine. Suppy gave a last-stitch effort in the attack that killed Heart's production. Suppy was down to like no bases vs like 8 ravens and bio. You can't say you'd be happy too if you won in his position.


I'd be relieved I won, but unsatisifed with my play. Heart outplayed him the entire game. The "last stitch effort" consisted of a moving ultras across the map after losing most of his bases. Not trying to take anything away from Suppy, but he should not be celebrating right now and should be refining his play. Impossible to expect to win the next series vs heart/ryung with mistakes like he just made.


I actually like Suppy, just didn't like the dancing is all. :D

If Heart outplayed him the entier game, then Heart would have won.

Suppy's control the last half of the game was pretty damn good. Running infestors targeted by ravens while still hitting fungals on marauders and healing the ultra 50 times is something Suppy can be proud of. That was micro of the higest class. Don't think the ravens ever hit more than two infestors.


At one point Suppy fungaled the Ravens, then ran a targetted Infestor under the Ravens to kill them with the HSM splash. It was pretty glorious and I was waching for it since Axslav was saying Suppy should be doing that with his targetting Ultras (if he couldn't outrun the seeker anyways).

It was a very scrappy game, those kind of games are going to have lots of mistakes. How many CC's did Heart lose without lifting off? Just about all of his Barracks too remember? If he had floated his infrastructure away and re-walled he probably would have won with that huge bank.

Both players stayed super active on the map after the base trade and with low numbers of units there wasn't much either player could do to defend everywhere.
aznheat80
Profile Joined August 2010
United States186 Posts
May 06 2013 23:32 GMT
#584
On May 07 2013 08:29 blade55555 wrote:
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On May 07 2013 08:26 corpsepose wrote:
On May 07 2013 08:25 Odawg27 wrote:
I have to say everyone giving HelloKitty crap, he almost caught Ryung with his pants down. If Ryung hadn't SCV scouted (which from when I play you don't do when making a reaper) he wouldn't have been ready for the proxy.


if youre playing against someone that many times worse than you are, especially in high latency settings, why not scv scout? its a pretty safe bet that theyll cheese you at least once


Especially vs hellokitty who from what I have seen only cheeses.


That's not true. Hellokitty has taken games off of even stephano in straight-up macro games on ladder.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 06 2013 23:32 GMT
#585
On May 07 2013 08:25 Odawg27 wrote:
I have to say everyone giving HelloKitty crap, he almost caught Ryung with his pants down. If Ryung hadn't SCV scouted (which from when I play you don't do when making a reaper) he wouldn't have been ready for the proxy.

edit: damn axeltoss just mentioned it. Haha thought I was one of the few who noticed it.



when you know you are the better player you always scout more not less. ryungs mindset is obviously play super super safe. hellokitty if he actually thought about it should take huge economic risks. fake a bit of pressure in to double expand or something.

mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
May 06 2013 23:32 GMT
#586
On May 07 2013 08:30 LeeDawg wrote:
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On May 07 2013 08:27 BronzeKnee wrote:
Axslav: "If he did Proxy Command Center, Hellokity would have taken that game..."

Well yes, the Planetary Fortress rush is pretty awful Axslax...


nah, brah.

i've beaten players with proxy 15 cc into floating a planetary into their base. works like a charm vs bronze players!

Ah the classic hoping your opponent is a complete idiot strategy! Very intelligent at a pro level.
Long live the Boss Toss!
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
May 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#587
On May 07 2013 08:29 aznheat80 wrote:
Hellokitty was banking on Ryung going 1 rax cc or cc first since both of those builds are common on daybreak. If, he had gone either of those builds, hellokitty would have won. It was just a build order loss.


I wouldn't call it a BO loss at all. People overuse the term way too much. He knew exactly what he was doing, pretty much taking a massive gamble on the cheese knowing full well that if Ryung scouts or doesn't play greedy it will fail.
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
May 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#588
I don't think people should get mad at Hellokitty for proxying, since it actually makes sense since cheese/unpredictability is really the only way he has a realistic shot of winning. What bothers me so much was all the super fundamental stuff he should've done that he really screwed up-- his probe never should've gotten stuck between the buildings, that reaper never should've gotten out of the base without taking damage, that bunker NEVER should've gotten up. Just all really disappointing stuff.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
May 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#589
brie cheese isn't blue are you for real
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dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
May 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#590
On May 07 2013 08:31 suicideyear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 08:29 TheButtonmen wrote:
It can only go up from here.

HelloKitty already hit maximum foreigner game 1, there's no going fuller foreigner.


there are no absolutes in how hard you can go foreigner



Can this term just die already?
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 23:34:12
May 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#591
On May 07 2013 08:29 Dosey wrote:
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On May 07 2013 08:26 LeeDawg wrote:
who is this casting with axslav?

axslav also sounds congested or something...

Theon Greyjoy:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Nah man, it's Josh Homme
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Or maybe Damian Lewis
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[image loading]
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
May 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#592
I just realized suppy made it harder on himself by winning. Now e has to beat Ryung or heart again if he loses. I'd he lost he would play hellokitty and then a Korean to advance. Second path half as many Koreans.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#593
On May 07 2013 08:22 Undead1993 wrote:
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On May 07 2013 08:21 BronzeKnee wrote:
This is a joke.

so who the hell decided to invite "hellokitty", what were these people thinking >.<


5th-8th place in WCS USA and 17th-24th in WCS North America. To make him one of the 15 American invites isn't too crazy, I guess.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
May 06 2013 23:34 GMT
#594
On May 07 2013 08:26 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 08:26 GTPGlitch wrote:
what the fuuuuuck was that game o.o


Proxy gate into zealot stalker rush, into 4 gate, into blink all in.

if one all in fails you keep going into different all ins till they work or you die.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
May 06 2013 23:35 GMT
#595
On May 07 2013 08:32 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 08:19 Vorenius wrote:
On May 07 2013 08:15 heartagram wrote:
On May 07 2013 08:12 vult wrote:
On May 07 2013 08:09 heartagram wrote:
Did he really dance? I'm trying my best to support the NA scene, despite how hard it is to watch WCS NA sometimes, and stuff like that makes me not want to continue to watch anymore. That was a terrible game, with both players playing like they were in masters. There are no bragging rights to be had... Heart was cross server ffs.

One should be mad at himself after a game like that, not proud.


Stop the cross-server whine. Suppy gave a last-stitch effort in the attack that killed Heart's production. Suppy was down to like no bases vs like 8 ravens and bio. You can't say you'd be happy too if you won in his position.


I'd be relieved I won, but unsatisifed with my play. Heart outplayed him the entire game. The "last stitch effort" consisted of a moving ultras across the map after losing most of his bases. Not trying to take anything away from Suppy, but he should not be celebrating right now and should be refining his play. Impossible to expect to win the next series vs heart/ryung with mistakes like he just made.


I actually like Suppy, just didn't like the dancing is all. :D

If Heart outplayed him the entier game, then Heart would have won.

Suppy's control the last half of the game was pretty damn good. Running infestors targeted by ravens while still hitting fungals on marauders and healing the ultra 50 times is something Suppy can be proud of. That was micro of the higest class. Don't think the ravens ever hit more than two infestors.


At one point Suppy fungaled the Ravens, then ran a targetted Infestor under the Ravens to kill them with the HSM splash. It was pretty glorious and I was waching for it since Axslav was saying Suppy should be doing that with his targetting Ultras (if he couldn't outrun the seeker anyways).

It was a very scrappy game, those kind of games are going to have lots of mistakes. How many CC's did Heart lose without lifting off? Just about all of his Barracks too remember? If he had floated his infrastructure away and re-walled he probably would have won with that huge bank.

Both players stayed super active on the map after the base trade and with low numbers of units there wasn't much either player could do to defend everywhere.


The main reason Heart was even ahead was because he got a lucky mine shot that killed 10+ banelings. "outplayed entire game" is complete BS.

Dis guy is obviously a Heart fan troll who cant admit that Suppy is just a better player.
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
May 06 2013 23:35 GMT
#596
Don't worry, this time it's straight into blink
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
May 06 2013 23:35 GMT
#597
On May 07 2013 08:33 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
I just realized suppy made it harder on himself by winning. Now e has to beat Ryung or heart again if he loses. I'd he lost he would play hellokitty and then a Korean to advance. Second path half as many Koreans.

Not really the best logic.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
May 06 2013 23:35 GMT
#598
here we go again
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
May 06 2013 23:35 GMT
#599
On May 07 2013 08:32 aznheat80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 08:29 blade55555 wrote:
On May 07 2013 08:26 corpsepose wrote:
On May 07 2013 08:25 Odawg27 wrote:
I have to say everyone giving HelloKitty crap, he almost caught Ryung with his pants down. If Ryung hadn't SCV scouted (which from when I play you don't do when making a reaper) he wouldn't have been ready for the proxy.


if youre playing against someone that many times worse than you are, especially in high latency settings, why not scv scout? its a pretty safe bet that theyll cheese you at least once


Especially vs hellokitty who from what I have seen only cheeses.


That's not true. Hellokitty has taken games off of even stephano in straight-up macro games on ladder.


Sure, but that's not what he is known for... there is no way Ryung isn't scouting early in a 2-player map against a lesser known player with a reputation for cheese.
SEKO SEKO SEKO
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
May 06 2013 23:35 GMT
#600
On May 07 2013 08:33 dcsoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 08:31 suicideyear wrote:
On May 07 2013 08:29 TheButtonmen wrote:
It can only go up from here.

HelloKitty already hit maximum foreigner game 1, there's no going fuller foreigner.


there are no absolutes in how hard you can go foreigner



Can this term just die already?


i'm not sorry (。◕‿◕。)

On May 07 2013 08:33 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 08:22 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 07 2013 08:21 BronzeKnee wrote:
This is a joke.

so who the hell decided to invite "hellokitty", what were these people thinking >.<


5th-8th place in WCS USA and 17th-24th in WCS North America. To make him one of the 15 American invites isn't too crazy, I guess.


still surprised he got the invite over people who won their WCS National Championship like Potiguar and Adj.
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